You Won't Be Able To Preload Borderlands 3 On The Epic Games Store

Downloads can begin once the game is live.

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If you're hoping to play Borderlands 3 on PC at midnight when it releases, you might find that you'll have to wait longer depending on your download speeds.

Gearbox Software's long-awaited shooter officially went gold last week ahead of its release on September 13. On PC, the game is a timed exclusive for the Epic Games Store, meaning that PC players who want the game on Steam will need to wait until April 2020.

Epic's Tim Sweeney confirmed to a fan on Twitter that the Epic Games Store would not allow preloading of Borderlands 3 ahead of release. Preloading means that the game is downloaded before it's playable, so that you can start the game the instant it releases.

When asked why this was the case, Sweeney clarified that while EGS has support for file preloading, they're not sure that their system is "up to the demands of a blockbuster like Borderlands." This means that those who have preordered the game will still need to wait until the game is live before they can start downloading it.

The Epic Games Store, which launched just this year, has landed several major exclusive releases on PC. These include Shenmue 3, Metro Exodus, and Ooblets.

The game is also coming to PS4 and Xbox One on launch day, and Google Stadia when it releases. It will support preload on consoles.

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thereal25

Oh the horror! People might have to wait 2 or 3 hours for a download.

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Deckard2323

Does Epic have ANY features one would expect from an online retailer, other than a working website? I wonder how they handle support questions. Are there discussion forums?

Seems the only reason they can offer 88% to developers is because their own infrastructure and cost is bare minimum.

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Redblaze27

@Deckard2323: No, and it leaks info constantly.

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NSA_Protocol44

Epic is soo good for competition. It is a good company and we don't see the problem with the launcher etc etc. Said the Epic Shills.

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mynameisjake16

So they don't think they can handle the amount of pre-loads, but think they can handle what will happen the second the download button goes live and everyone who bought it clicks it at the exact same time? this makes no sense at all. the reason they said they can't do pre-loads is the exact reason why they need to....

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atopp399

Can we preload it through Steam for when the exclusive period is over? I can wait... If I still even want the game by then. I'll probably just watch someone play it. I'm certainly not using Epic.

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esqueejy

Awesome...more tantrums! Best one gets a prize!

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saltymemesoup

Epic Games and EA are competing for the biggest dingus award.

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Redblaze27

@saltymemesoup: EA at least has a competent launcher.

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Mogan

@Redblaze27: It didn't when Origin first launched. And gamers flipped their **** about games not coming to Steam and Origin being crap back then too. A year from now, Epic's store'll be fine and people will have moved on to being outraged about some other drama. And then somebody will start up another digital marketplace, and everybody'll freak out again.

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Thanatos2k

Don't worry, I won't be preloading anything on the Epic store, ever.

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Elranzer

Tim Sweeney is a cancer to gaming, similar to the likes of Zynga and King.

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santinegrete

You won't win customers to your store if you don't offer even the most basic features that were an advantage over retail. I purchased Metro Exodus there btw.

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Ohaidere

Consoles at least have some vaguely different features when it comes to exclusives (albeit not a ton the last 2 gens.) This epic thing is literally forcing you to use an objectively inferior product.

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Donut0389

Ooblets? A "major release"? You're joking right? On par with Bordlerlands 3, Shenmue 3, and Metro Exodus?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny joke! You should be a comedian.

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Elranzer

@Donut0389: Sweeney and the Ooblets devs really thought their staged drama would make Ooblets a grassroots hit.

It didn’t work.

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Mogan

@Elranzer: I don't think the Ooblets devs staged death threats.

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Atzenkiller

Well, that's pretty weak of them. Makes it seem like they still haven't been able to get their platform up and running properly. They've certainly had enough time for that by now.

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Donut0389

@Atzenkiller: Because they're throwing all thier money at exclusivity deals instead of improving their storefront and launcher.

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Atzenkiller

@Donut0389: But those exclusivity deals have the goal of bringing them more money. Or have none of those exclusives been released yet? Well, I guess the smaller cut compared to Steam that they're taking might also have something to do with it.

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Donut0389

@Atzenkiller: That's just it. They're throwing millions, possibly tens of millions at exclusivity deals. And then when those exclusives are sold they make less per sale than their competitors.

So the setup only makes money if the exclusives sell high numbers. So in the end the Publishers/Developers are the only ones guaranteed to come out of the deal positive. Epic runs the chance of losing money hand over fist. And customers see no benefit as they're force to use an objectively worse service and they don't see the savings. Games are just as expensive on Epic Store as every other digital service.

Also Epic can only do all of this because Fortnite money. So if something happens to Fortnite, the entire thing collapses.

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SbargoVox3

Would've worked on Steam. Would've sold more too.

Oh well, Randy Pitchfork got his moolah.

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Mogan

@sbargovox3: Randy's not the game's publisher. He wouldn't have made the decision to put the game on Epic instead of Steam. I think he even specifically said as much at one point.

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SbargoVox3

@Mogan: Randy has a reputation of being unorthodox about telling the truth. And he's the CEO of the developer. If you think he didn't also get paid when the exclusivity was signed, well...

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Mogan

@sbargovox3: I don’t know if he got paid or not any more than you do. I do know that it’s the publisher that generally decides where and how a game gets sold, so I don’t think, “Randy got his moolah.” actually explains why BL3 isn’t on Steam.

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Atzenkiller

@sbargovox3: They could have also given the game away for pennies. Would have sold even more.

Comments like this make it seem like people just have no personal standards at all. But maybe it's just because it's about the others and not about you.

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Caj1986

where are the pro epic users? a storing not having a basic function like pre loading is gonna expect huge servers loads the moments the game is released. heck me being a pc gamer primarily knows even xbox & playstation supports preloading. how on earth does a gaming store call foul of valve policies when it doesnt have basic functions?

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OpenMind23

Until now i've been pretty neutral to gaming clients, but the amount of lacking features of Epic Store keep becoming apparent... I would like them to use some of their resources to up their server count and add much needed necessary features like this so that it doesn't frustrate the gamers who have started using their client for purchasing games.

It would go a long way to show gamers, that haven't used their client yet, to include a wishlist and alternate views on their store pages. Hopefully in the future they have a two-step security system for peace of mind.

At the moment it looks nice and clean, but is too basic on features and security to be what consumers expect.

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Atzenkiller

@openmind23: Yeah, considering how many exclusives they've managed to gather so far it seems weird that they still haven't done much work on their platform to make it more competitive to Steam. This is part of what everyone's complaining about but months ago it was till new, so that was an acceptable excuse. But if still nothing's changed, then that's kinda weird. Considering how much effort they put in to get exclusives, to then push people away with a barebones platform.

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OdinXivraj

Really?! Epic doesn't even have preloading? I haven't used the Epic store due to the gaping security holes. Most of wish haven't been patched at the moment of this post. But you can't even be bothered to have basic features like a shopping cart and now preloading?

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Heqteur

yay! kudos to the good spirited competition epic store is bringing!!!

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MrDinghat

10/10 store, nice job Tim.

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Mogan

All these minor inconveniences add up, and they keep making Epic look bad. If they'd just get their store in shape, it'd go along way towards fixing their image problem.

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gamingdevil800

@Mogan: Definitely considering how much money they make, how hard would it honestly be to pay software programmers/specialists to set up a forum, achievements, comments, ratings among other things?

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Mogan

@gamingdevil800: They definitely don't need forums. We've got so many different gaming communities on the internet already, there's no value in adding another one specific to one store on one platform.

User reviews maybe, but really what I think they need to focus on is making finding, buying, and managing games on their store much smoother and easier. That's what everybody sees when they go to the EGS; and if it looks cheap and limited, it doesn't make folks want to buy stuff from it.

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SbargoVox3

@Mogan: You do know it's very convenient to open the Steam overlay and have a look through the game specific forums that are linked right there in the overlay's front page to check for something like a hint or a bug, instead of alt tabbing, opening your browser, going to a forum, searching the forums for a specific game, then searching that subforum for info. It's convenience. It's why Steam curbed piracy by a significant margin.

Every other store has had 15 years to take notes on how things like this should work and Epic? Epic forgot their pen.

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Mogan

@sbargovox3: It's only easy to check Steam forums for help because Steam is one of the most popular communities. Unless Epic suddenly rivals Steam in popularity, adding their own forums is just going to give gamers another place to **** on stuff and be toxic. It wouldn't be a useful service and gamers would still be going to Steam's boards for help.

And Steam's overlay web browser is terrible. You're better alt-tabbing out and opening a real browser whether your going to the Steam forums or not.

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Thanatos2k

@Mogan: Seriously, you're arguing AGAINST the forums because there won't be as many posts there? What kind of horrible attitude is that.

If Epic WANTS to be more popular than Steam, avoiding features because they wouldn't be as popular as Steam is beyond dumb.

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Mogan

@Thanatos2k: I'm saying they wouldn't be a useful feature. Steam's forums are already a toxic pit you have to wade through if you're looking for answers, but that's where the answers generally are because those boards are very popular. If Epic adds forums, until they become as popular as Steam's, it'll ONLY be loads of ****. Most of the other launcher apps don't have dedicated forums. And why would they? Anybody with questions about the game is already going to Steam.

Epic has way more important things to add than another place for gamers to be toxic. That doesn't make anything better.

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Thanatos2k

@Mogan: Of course they'd be a useful feature. Any amount of additional information is a good thing.

So wait, first the Epic forums would be "toxic" because there wouldn't be a lot of traffic, and now Steam's forums are toxic too because they have a lot of traffic? Make up your mind. We get it, you don't like forums for some reason, but other people use them a lot, myself included. And your irrational fear of "toxic" people shouldn't ever drive their policy decisions for useful features.

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Mogan

@Thanatos2k: Right now, I don’t think any forums Epic adds would have enough users to be anything but toxic. Steam’s forums are useful because they’re popular, but also toxic.

I think people have latched onto Epic’s lack of forums as a ****ting point because it’s something Steam has Epic doesn’t, and not because it’s something that would actually make Epic’s store substantially better.

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Thanatos2k

@Mogan: How do they expect to become popular without useful features?

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Mogan

@Thanatos2k: Hopefully by adding features that are much more useful and important than forums. It's not like they don't have a lot of room to improve that store.

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Thanatos2k

@Mogan: Except it's a useful and important feature.

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SbargoVox3

@Mogan: Gamers will always be toxic, so it's pointless to worry about toxicity. Unless you keep bookmarks for every single game you play to instantly go to a relevant forum or guides (or screenshot, video capture, fan artwork gallery) opening a browser is more inconvenient to the end user. Minor, probably, but EGS is just that much lesser of a service compared to Steam.

But what do you expect from a digital storefront, ran by a company that rakes in unimaginable amounts of money by the way, doesn't even have a goddamn shopping cart, I don't think the end user is anywhere on the priorities list.

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Megawizard

"When asked why this was the case, Sweeney clarified that while EGS has support for file preloading, they're not sure that their system is "up to the demands of a blockbuster like Borderlands." This means that those who have preordered the game will still need to wait until the game is live before they can start downloading it."

So instead of overloading the servers and crashing out when pre-loading would go available at least a week ahead of time, it'll just overload and crash on release day. Sounds like a million dollar idea to me!

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Atzenkiller

@Megawizard: Yeah, that actually really doesn't make much sense at all. But I assume they'd only have made it available for preload a day or two before launch anyway. At least that's how Sony always does it. But that would still make a big difference with regards to server load.

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DEVILTAZ35

@Megawizard: lol good point , glad i am skipping this game for a few months until it is a reasonable price. For more or less the same thing again it's way overpriced.