Xbox Scorpio Will Deliver "Very Best Console Version Of Games," Exec Says

@gtxplayer: Of course you don't get it. You'd need a adequate amount of brain cells to do that xD

And I forgot I'm talking to Mr. Oxymoron here lol

[You] "I don't own a console but I did own every console I wanted. I still have my Gameboy, DS and PS1/2 in the attic."

No mention of 360 buddy. I guess you'll magically own a XBO in sec lol

And didn't I tell you that I've own every console since the NES...which includes NeoGeo, 3DO, Turbo Graphic16, Jaguar, Sega CD/32X so take your 300 games and let's multiply that by...ummmmmm...let's just say 5 for now (but I know there's more than that)...so what do you get?

Once again...this isn't a fair fight xD

[You] "The point here is that the PC GPU and CPU are not stronger because they don't have half of the deep level features and "to the metal" programming tools and common practices."

You sound like all of those little fanboys screaming "the console version is better than the PC version" when anyone with a shred of common sense knows better lol

But he says I'm the one with the screws loose xD

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMgosh...you'd make great court jester xD

@louixiii: "Yet your dumb ass is on a the site that allowed the article to published" What is your point here? I don't care :]

I never owned a 360? Wrong, Again! Probably far more Games than you ever will. Over 300 :]

Is that because you have nothing to counter the argument. The point here is that the PC GPU and CPU are not stronger because they don't have half of the deep level features and "to the metal" programming tools and common practices. If this wasn't the case, the proof I gave you concerning BF4 specs wouldn't be there would it?

Definitely a few screws loose!

@gtxplayer:

[You] "Thanks for again, comparing specs between a console and PC. You're just as dumb as those who made the article."

Yet your dumb ass is on a the site that allowed the article to published AND you're going back and forth with a person that you call dumb so that makes you what...an nincompoop xD

Next...you give me this loooooooooong spiel about the 360...a console you never owned...and try to apply it to a discussion that I'VE layed to rest about 8 replies ago in an attempt to prove moot point which is ridiculous...and a bit pathetic :(

If you put a PC that has a stronger and faster GPU AND CPU against a console that has a weaker GPU and CPU...common sense will tell you that the PC will win hands down. I mean...it's common sense lol

With that being said...I'm not going to say that you're coo coo for cocoa puffs but......you might be in love with the cocoa xD

@louixiii: Thanks for again, comparing specs between a console and PC. You're just as dumb as those who made the article. You can read many points on the internet about how you can't compare a PC to a console of the same specs, because for 1:

Everything in a console is custom. Infact, you probably don't understand half of the custom entities on their GPU. PC parts simply don't describe with as much importance the exact details, on the shelf, because they simply aren't needed for the average consumer.

Just to show you how wrong you are, here are the requirements for BF4s minimum spec vs the X360:

Windows Xbox 360

OS: Vista 32-bit (around 10 Years old ) || Windows 2000 (Now 17 Years Old)

CPU: Athlon X2 2.8GHz / Core Duo 2.4GHz || Xenon 3.2GHz (Outdate architecture)

GPU: HD 3870 (AMD) / 8800 GT (NV) || Xenos (X1800 XL derivative)

RAM: 4GB =/= 4096MB || 512MB GDDR3 @ 700MHz

Other:

Xbox 360 supports only a "Super set" of DX9 components and ShaderModel 3.0+. 3870 supports full DX9 10.1 and SM 4.1!

GPU Analysis:

From the GPU, benchmarks for the X1800 XL couldn't be found but a comparison between the X1800 GTO and X1800 XL could be found, along with benchmarks for the X1800 GTO. We can see the GTO supersedes the XL by quite a lot (SPUs and Mem Bandwidth). So from this, we can know the PassMark score for the X1800 GTO found here is probably 60% more powerful than the 1800XL. We would then cut the score to the represented percentage to around 56.4. The HD 3870 can be found here (729). You can see the silly difference which isn't even comparable. The Xenos only has 240 GLOPS where the 3870 has 497.3 for Single Precision FP format.

So, I think at this point, it would be safe to come to the conclusion that this X360 wouldn't run BF4 at all right? You directly compared the numbers and after number-crunching everything, we can see that the minimum spec of the PC version blows the X360 version out of the water right? But what's this? X360 did run BF4? How you ask? Simple:

You cannot compare a PC to a console. A console of the same spec (or even half the spec in this case) blows it out of the water! Who knew!

"...but it will not be able to run games in ultra high or even high settings without taking a hit in comparison to a high end PCs version of a game"

Already proved you wrong in my previous point with the settings. The version IS the PC PORT. Here is the link. Here is the quote: "In fact, the team can push ForzaTech to the equivalent of PC's ultra-level settings and we're still sitting at 88 per cent GPU utilisation".

Instead of babbling numbers, actually learn what they mean along with hardware features and the rest of it. Posting it is the easy part. Understanding it is the more challenging part, but not rocket science.

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@gtxplayer: ummmmm...ok lol

I suggest you read that article again. Hopefully...by the time you're done, some common sense will kick in and you'll realize how silly you sound.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/heres-how-a-pc-with-xbox-scorpio-specs-performs/1100-6449878/

Takeaways from the article...

GPU:

"Project Scorpio uses a six teraflop GPU based on AMD’s Polaris architecture. Considering AMD’s recently released Radeon RX 580 is a 6.1 teraflop graphics card that’s also based on Polaris, we think it’s a great fit for our build here. These GPUs aren’t exactly the same, mind you. Project’s Scorpio uses an integrated graphics solution that offers 2569 shaders, which is more than the RX 580’s equivalent 2304, but the RX 580 has a higher 1257MHz core clock, and tops the console’s 1172MHz speed."

CPU:

"The FX-8350 4GHz core clock speed does make it faster than Project Scorpio’s 2.3GHz frequency"

So...they used a faster GPU AND CPU than what's coming with Scorpio...yet you want to continue to argue a moot point xD

And I never said that Scorpio will not be able to run games in 4K...because if that was the case it wouldn't be coming to the market...but it will not be able to run games in ultra high or even high settings without taking a hit in comparison to a high end PCs version of a game. That's a fact pal...numbers don't lie.

Soooooo...do you believe in unicorns and leprechauns too?

xD

@louixiii: You must be really pleased with yourself. Maybe you should ring up Guinness World Records :]

I didn't point out anything other than what was related to the comment I quoted.

If you're looking for a grand achievement when comparing 6.1 and 6.0, you're looking in the wrong place. You're also looking in the wrong place if you are trying to compare a console to a PC. I'm sure I could elect the whole PC gaming scene to teach you on how you can't simply compare different technologies and/or features, but you would not listen :]

You're simply implying that Scorpio would not be able to run games at 4K without taking a hit to graphics because the PC contender could not also stating that "RX580 trumps the GX card in Scorpio". You have to be extremely simple minded to think this will be the case. Also, because people seem to throw TFLOPs around a lot does not mean you can compare that to a console either. It's still apples and oranges. Quite laughable but an enjoyable read.

So, what we can learn from the analysis by Digital Foundry is this:

> Forza 6 runs on Scorpio at 4K@60fps with 4K assets with only 60-70% GPU utilisation. We're talking about a Port here, not from scratch, so it's not fully utilising the platform. The difference between 1080p assets and 4K assets was a mere 1% performance difference. I'm sure the 580 couldn't achieve that.

> On Forza 6 Ultra settings, they achieve 88% GPU utilisation from the same Port. The port took 2 days which is a clear indicator by any ports from console to console, that it was done for speed and not performance. They note plenty of overhead from the port of the engine.

> The RX580 does not have its own "Power Profile" when it rolls of the manufacturing line. Every Scorpio does. The RX 580 does not have DX12 baked onto the GPU either. What we're talking here is "to the metal" programming and efficiency. RX 580 has none of it :D

I'd like to see RX580 hit that. Oh wait, it can't, but apparently it still trumps the Scorpio AHAHAHA.