Xbox One DVR Doesn't Work Without External Hard Drive [Update]

Microsoft says optimizing storage is the priority, meaning shows can't be recorded onto internal system drives.

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The Xbox One's upcoming feature to record over-the-air-TV will not work unless an external hard drive is plugged into the console, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed to GameSpot.

Speaking during a presentation of the Xbox One's upcoming Dashboard redesign, project lead Richard Irving explained that DVR functionality will not record TV footage to the console's internal hard drive.

"You need an external hard drive specifically for DVR because we want to keep the [storage] paths optimized between playing games and watching TV," he said. "We don't want them to interact with each other."

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A digital TV tuner, already available for Xbox One across Europe and North America, is also required to play over-the-air TV.

During Microsoft's Gamescom press conference on Tuesday, Xbox head Phil Spencer announced that the Xbox One's existing user interface will be completely redesigned with a new update, scheduled to arrive before the end of the year.

Known as "the New Xbox One Experience," the Dashboard will replace the existing Windows 8-themed layout in favour of a more straightforward panel system. Also included will be the option to look through the Xbox One's TV guide and schedule recordings of upcoming shows. These recordings can be activated remotely too, via the SmartGlass or Xbox on Windows 10 apps.

Microsoft has told GameSpot that the highest theoretical resolution of over-the-air-TV recordings will be 1080i, but dependent on ariel signal quality. [Update: Microsoft has since told GameSpot that "Xbox One Free-to-Air DVR will record TV at the same quality level of the broadcast, including shows that are broadcast at 1080p."]

Another feature coming with the system update will be the option to transfer TV show files onto a Windows 10 tablet within the same home network. This means that the tablet will store the downloaded shows, and will be able to play them offline and on the go.

However, Microsoft has confirmed that this feature will only work with Windows 10 devices, and not on those running Android or iOS.

On Wednesday at Gamescom, Microsoft and Seagate announced a partnership for a new 2TB external hard drive made specifically for Xbox One and Xbox 360.

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Alright, then the Xbox One isn't a DVR. It has the potential to be, if you purchase another piece of equipment.

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@DeadlyMustard: But at that point couldn't you just buy a DVR?

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Just like the megadrive 32x

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I've got two of them plugged into mine so I'm more than ready.

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"Not an issue, just buy and plug in a another drive just for dvr, who cares, it's only more money....."

-xbot

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tv tv tv tv tv tv while your updating things how about you make games dvr save to a hard drive, tired of this mainly streaming console, everything buffers, its annoying, almost as annoying as how poor your console is in general and how much you have back peddled and your fake backward compatible console 2 years later and you still have to download the whole game so its not even backward compatible, the 360 disc is just a free pass to your crappy huge download, doesnt sound so backwards compatible to me, just sounds backwards :)

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@hotwog21: What is backward compatible? i feel like you don't get it does it not allow you to play you 360 games on xbox one sure you have to install it first but how does that make it fake

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You can store your games on the external too... So aren't you still running into the issue of using the same storage device for games and TV?

Considering the embassingly small 500GB storage in most Xbox One consoles, it makes sense to expect an external. But if someone doesn't have a lot of digital content on the console, they shouldn't be required to have another drive.

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@Hvac0120: He is probably running off the assumption that most users would simply use their internal for game installs.

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How about we actually get some good GAMES for Xbox One rather than focusing on TV?

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@edwardnygma: Also to add: How do you feel about Sony talking more about TV?

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@xenomorphalien: thing is... msft talk tv... but they aren't bringing it, you already have it.....go ahead, unplug the xbox.. oh, you still have tv, and it looks, sounds, and responds better...

Sony is actually bringing tv...no need to have an already existing tv provider.. no cable man... no dish trucks....

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@Mirimon78: does typing msft really save that much time?

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@DeadlyMustard: yeah, it's default quick word in browser, and used for stocks exchange.

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@Mirimon78: What did that have to do with anything? Who cares how they "bring" TV? Point is Sony has talked more about TV than MS at this point.

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@xenomorphalien: everything? You are being sold what you already have. How many channels do you get on your xbox without a provider? Oh.. none?

Kthx, bye

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@Mirimon78: 64 channels here in the UK. 12 of them HD.

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@mattyengland76: ok... I was talking about averages in the US, not the tiny little other nations... all of which are different.

For example, nearly every channel in korea is hd, and they have the most 4k channels, many OTA..... still has nothing to do with the US nor my prior post.

Thanks.

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@Mirimon78: "tiny little other nations"

Patronising much!

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@mattyengland76: size nor population, nor gdp is a factor here, yet again tiny is a reference to the scope of viewing numbers and consumer count. No need to get your panties in a wad about your lack of relevance in today's world.

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@Mirimon78: I'm no patriot and give zero shits about how relevant ANY country is. But, I hasten to add, you are an arrogant dick.

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@Mirimon78: How many do you get with PlayStation Vue ? Oh, none unless you live in the 3 cities where it's available ...

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@Duttyhandz: that's like asking how much of halo 6 I have played....

They are wise to roll it out this way and get a feel for user demand, as well, many cities, counties, and states have legal issues to iron out. Last of all will be towns, and then there is the enforcement of recent FCC regulation where these places still throttle or block sony devices or specific sites for reasons not spoken of to the public.

But... since you think a number of channels being higher means better, you should know the averages of what people already pay for and what they actually use is drastic.... paying for 500 channels, most of the obscure, while watching at most 10 shows over 7 channels....

To be honest, the channels, film networks and films themselves offered are ALL of the most popular only.... (it would also be silly to ignore just how much of networks, channels, programs, and movies are all actually under sony). They will undoubtedly continue to modify, add, and improve the options, from select services to ala carte, with appropriately targeted pricing and deals for ps plus members, it will be something to look forward to.

Btw, thanks for butting into the conversation, which was actually about how msft is fooling you morons into thinking they bring tv to your house, when it either requires you to have it already or offers what 3 other devices commonly found in most homes can already do....like selling milk to a cow...

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@Mirimon78: You know aside from all the cord cutting apps they have Sling TV which lets you watch channels live like ps vue. It's probably not on the PS4 since its a direct competitor.

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@xabbott: nah, that is another bit of hardware, which works with either....

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@Mirimon78: No, you are thinking of Sling Box. Sling TV is like PS Vue. It's available on Amazon fire TV, roku, and Xbox one.

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@Mirimon78: So, again, nothing to do with what I originally said?

Gotcha.

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@edwardnygma: Riddle me this: what games are out now and later for Xbox?

Out Now:

MCC

Killer Instinct Season 1 and 2

Forza 5

Forza Horizon 2

Sunset Overdrive

Dead Rising 3

Titanfall

Ryse

Project Spark

Ori and The Blind Forest

Rare Replay

Coming Soon this fall:

Halo 5

Rise of the Tomb Raider (timed)

Forza 6

Gears of War Ultimate Edition (comes with all Gears games)

Fable Legends

Out Next year:

Gears 4

Scalebound

Crackdown

Sea of Thieves

Recore

Below

Gigantic

Quantum Break

Halo Wars 2

Killer Instinct Season 3

Coming sometime:

Lionhead new IP

Undead Labs new IP

Twisted Pixel new IP

Press Start New IP

And Phantom Dust if that ever gets a developer.

Seriously, do you own an Xbox?

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@xenomorphalien: where's the xbox list, this is the pc one...

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@Mirimon78: Oh I'm sorry. What did I say? Games out now and later for Xbox. So tell me, are these games on Xbox or not? And not everyone gets these games on PC.

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@xenomorphalien: haha, of course you wouldn't get it... too much of a fanboy.

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@Mirimon78: lol Look who's talking, calling people xbots if they don't agree with you or prove you wrong. Now answer me again: Are these games on Xbox or not?

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@xenomorphalien: called you a fanboy, but you are an xbot because you are an xbot, not because people don't agree with you. The real issue is you can't seem to think for yourself.. thus, xbot.

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@Mirimon78: What are you talking about? I can't think for myself? Elaborate.

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@xenomorphalien said:

@edwardnygma: Riddle me this: what games are out now and later for Xbox?

Gears of War Ultimate Edition (comes with all Gears games)

Hate to bust your bubble, but the Gears of War Ultimate Edition is only the first Gear that been remastered for the Xbox One not all 3 games.....

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@Slim02: I know that. I said that it came with all Gears games, didn't say they were remastered.

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@xenomorphalien said:

@Slim02: I know that. I said that it came with all Gears games, didn't say they were remastered.

Not true. The disc only give you Gear of War Ultimate Edition not the other 4 games.. They are only a download version if you play the Ultimate Edition in the given time frame..

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@Slim02: Comes with the codes, who cares?

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@Slim02: Hate to burst your bubble, but he didn't say that the other games were remastered, only that you get all the Gears games (if you play it between release and New Years), which you do.

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@_Silent_Jay_: The point is it is not apart of the Gears of War Ultimate Edition. It only a bonus if you get it the game and play it between a special time.. I do not buy every game when it comes out.. I like to save money and wait for a good deal.. Also I already own all them on the Xbox360 any ways so there no point in getting xbox360 versions again..

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@Slim02: That good for since they'll be compatible you'll still play them on X1 even if you dont get ultimate edition

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@edwardnygma: If you have an X1 and watched xcomm or even the X1 app showing daily updates for xcomm youd know the titles they showed are just the tip of the iceberg in whats to come in 2016.

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@edwardnygma: riddle me this why is edwardnygma such douche.

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@bentleyj10: At least EdwardNygma can spell unlike bentleyj10.

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@edwardnygma: sorry auto correct on the phone....fixed it. Also your no less an idiot cause u can spell dem Der words good.

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@edwardnygma: great bait mate.

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The 1080P mentioned in the article is for Antenna TV's ATSC 2.0 using h.264 on sub channels; the features in ATSC bleed over into Cable TV (h.264 , 1080P, S3D, NRT, XTV, Second screen, targeted commercials in the media hub model).

Cable TV tuners and DVR are coming with the FCC DSTAC allowing a Downloadable Security Scheme replacing cable cards. Sony's Passage and likely Microsoft's Playready as one of the DRMs. Proposals are either Vidipath or HTML5 <video> MSE EME using a common encryption standard like Playready.

It's cited here with some discussion Link to discussion on coming media features

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Why do people complain about everything while I probably won't use this feature it's nice to have the option. I use my one more than my ps4 for media, was the other way around last gen. Think all the new features the one is getting in November is pretty cool like backwards compatibility and windows 10 os. Just got a new 4k TV and was scared the up conversion on the ps4,wiiu, and one might look bad or be blurry but man does it look better than my 1080p set. Just have to get another 780 classified to play games at 4k one just doesn't cut it maybe on older games or lower detail.

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