Xbox executive says comparing specs is "meaningless"

this sounds abit like "winning isn't everything" lol

we all know whose says that lol

there are no console`s since the XB1 and PS4 are PC based so we have PC`s and mini me PC`s so there...........

This time around, consumers are buying the product that meets their needs. For instance, I want a to play games so I am buying a PS4.

And as far as quality exclusives which takes away games like dance central 1,2,3, dance universe 1,2 things like that which nearly makes up 97 of xbox 360's 156 exclusive titles.if you look at gamerankings.com PS3 has 13 exclusive titles with a score of over 90 on average ratings on games with over 20 reviews done for them. of those 13 it has 9 different IPs. xbox 360 has 7 titles falling in that category with 4 different IPs. The highest rated exclusive on x360 is the original gears of war which is 93.97%. PS3 has 3 titles rated higher than that with 3 different IPs. Of 360's 7 3 are GOW and 2 are Halo. Oh and the game The Last of Us is one of the best console games ever made IMO simply incredible with a 95.05% avg rating to support that though thats not even the highest rated exclusive PS3 title.

I mean Im just saying. .

Exclusives and past experience are enough to sway me to the PS4. With the X360 I had a red ring system to start sent it in 3 times with in a year and a half and then it was simply a brick after that. The second 360 I had was scratching my discs which not only did i have to send in the system. i had to play 40 bucks to replace 2 discs. After I got the system back I sold it and pretty much decided if i ever go back to xbox it will be well after the system has proven itself to be quality. Seeing as how my first original xbox suffered from constant disc read errors and the like.

My experience with xbox would lead people to believe i am bad with systems but in reality I still have a working NES, SNES, N64, 60 gig PS3 and a 500 gig white PS3. Until the xbone can come out and not have a rediculous 68% failure rate over its first 3 years

MS: "The Xbox ONE created with advertising in mind" How is that a good way to sell consoles?!?!

MS: "Comparing specs is meaningless"

I mean come on is there really people out there thats still considering buying the Xbox ONE?!

I can just see the ads floating around the TV screen as the MS fanboys are playing their beloved HALO.

And then the console WILL freeze every 5 minutes because for MS products to freeze up and die now that is actually MS policy!

I have to agree with Penello. I've already preordered my Xbox One console because I've already grown accustom to the previous consoles and prefer to play Xbox titles like Halo. I doubt the majority of people who purchase the PS4 care or even know a great deal about the internal components of their console.

I used to be a huge xbox fan but they are just getting ridiculous. so glad im switching over to ps4. specs do mean something. especially when it comes to exclusive titles. you compare the last of us to any xbox exclusive and it destorys it.

This only means Microsoft is embarrassed by their specs. . . lol

PS4 has more games support and power, which makes it better. It's easier to develop.

Agreed. Its the games that matter. The 360 was behind in hardware specs but the output was as good and in some cases better than the PS3. Spec differences shouldn't matter that much in the next-gen either.

In Microsoft's defense, the PS2 was the least powerful console in its generation and it dominated in sales and outlasted all of its competitors. So there's some truth to Penello's words. HOWEVER, the Xbox One isn't the PlayStation 2 and the circumstances here are vastly different. Also, $500.

ps4 wins

bad case of foot-in-mouth-itis going around at MSHQ.

X1FTW

Adam then Don then this guy

I hear the guy who made this statement has now apologized for it. How many times have Microsoft excs stuck size 10 into mouth this past month? Starting to see why microsoft canceled its post E3 press conference, think they figured out more gibberish would just help Sony more.

Games are important but they fail to mention Sony is the GAMES console. Why put attention on their competitors strength?

Specs aren't meaningless, but they aren't the most important thing either. If you only buy said console because of the specs, you might as well get a PC. In the end, it comes down to the games on said console.

"The funny thing about game consoles is that it’s usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms." - AnandTech.com.

Damn you Microsoft! You screwed the whole game industry with your TV TV TV console!

"Specs don't matter" to Microsoft because they pull the rest of the industry down to their level to some degree. I'm sure they are pleased with themselves.

I like the xbone fanboys who try to say sony is trying to pull a fast one on everyone just saying their system is more powerful when microsoft in this article just said ps4 is more powerful by a substanial amount. Its actually what this artical is about.

Specs aren't the most important thing but they are important people are counting way to much on the could service making the system more than it is as a whole, but outside of that unless your a gears or a halo fan boy game wise ps4 has a lot more going for it especially since there is heavy talk of titanfall reaching the PS4 before its all said and done which to me is the coolest looking xbone game going. A lot more qaulity exclusive IPS for PS4 and Developers are eating up how together sony is that and the ability for them to meet supply and demand.

The PS4 hardware is verified to be significantly more powerful in 2 areas:

Fact 1) 50% more GPU shader power.

Fact 2) 20% more memory bandwidth.

Peak Shader Throughput:

Bone = 768

PS4 = 1152

System Memory Bandwidth:

Bone = 68.3 GB/s

PS4 = 176.0 GB/s (That’s roughly the amount of memory bandwidth we’ve come to expect from a $300 GPU. - Anandtech.com)

Price:

Bone = $500

PS4 = $400

This is not up for debate. That said, both consoles will have some good/great exclusives and gaming is about more than just raw graphics power. Still, you need to do more research if you haven't caught up to current events yet: the PS4 is *definitely* a lot more powerful in 2 major areas than The Bone...and the difference is much bigger than it was between the PS3/360.

why would anyone speaking on behalf of a company, trying to sell their product, draw attention to an area in which they are EVEN WEAKER...most of us who play games or give a flying **** what execs in the business say already know there isn't going to be a monumental difference in the power of the consoles...what we also know is that xbox has had to do its 180, so they lost months before release in the customer service line... so this boils down to the only way to sell your console is hope that people keep buying gears and halo games forever? Better off having said nothing.

Cloud in Xbox one will be more powefull by all sources. So the 1.8 tflop from ps4 will be meaningless. Xbox one will be 3x superior with cloud so what rest for ps4 besides is copying Kinect 1 and Wii U second screen on Vita?

By saying such idiotic comments, M$ is digging their own grave even deeper because this time they actually admit that their console is so much less powerful(yet more expensive) that you shouldn't even compare it to PS4.

I agree with the sentiment of games being more important than technical information, but to just dismiss it is a little heavy handed. It all boils down to which console can get the most out of its specs.

Having said that, I'm not a fan of the 'here's what you care about' line. If it had been 'here's what ~we believe~ you care about' it would have been a lot better. I still don't want any of these people (console spokesmen etc, not just Xbox people) to stop telling me what I want just like that.

Oh well, at least this article isn't ~full~ of insults. XD

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Incredible how Xbox staff continue to come out with one BS after another.

Who the hell is this moron to judge if people understand the difference in technical specs?

Sure, maybe a lot of people don't understand it, but that doesn't change the fact that there are TONS of people in the world that actually understand the technical differences VERY WELL........and there is not even ONE person that has that knowledge that can deny a simple fact: PS$ is clearly superior technically.

Also, his whole argument about "only games matter" is quite idiotic 'cause even if it's true that games are the most important aspect for a console (and it's funny how THEY say this now when instead they are the ones that are LESS focused on games,lol),it's also true that there will be also a lot of games that will be released for both consoles, so only an idiot wouldn't aspire to get the better version (especially since the prices will be basically the exact same).

Finally, it's too convenient for Albert to say this when they are the ones to have a clearly inferior console, do you think that he would have told the same if the situation was the opposite? Please.......

It is interesting reading through the comments and Sony fans continue to swarm these articles providing "facts" (like the PS4 is 50% more powerful), not realizing that Sony has pulled these same technical revolutions in the past that were misleading, but these same people fell for it then. It reminds me of the folks who think that the following Madden will "get it right".

Sony bragged about that Emotion Engine and how it was so powerful to guide jet planes...yadda yadda, and they slammed the obviously weaker Dreamcast, but overall, the graphics weren't really immensely better, and the Dreamcast still provided better results in many areas (like texture rendering). However, you Sony fans ate it up. Then, Sony comes out and brags about that Cell processor, and in comments, Sony fans once again druel over how the 360 will look like shit in comparison, but reality comes and we see that it was a pain in the ass to develop for and most multi-plat games were better on 360. Even better, the 360 holds extremely well against PS3's best looking games.

Here we are again...same thing...and Sony fans are eating it up. The MS spokesman is right...specs hardly matter in the long run. Who has the better optimizations? Who has the better development tools? Who has the system that is much easier to work with its specifications?

Lastly, for those people comparing the internal ram, please remember...the 360 has 512 megs of ram. The 360 can run Skyrim, NBA2K, Fallout, GTA4, with just a tiny bit of ram. Now, we all know that all of these games would be nearly impossible to run on a PC with 2GB of ram, at least in the way that the 360 does. I'm basically pointing out that we can't compare how ram works on a PC and a console. I'm sure we all know the large amount of processes that go on a PC with its OS.

Personally, I do believe that we'll see very little difference between the two systems graphically. I like what MS has done creating 3 separate operating systems that work together handling games and applications (reminds me of DOS and Windows in the day). This could prove valuable in how the system handles its resources too. We don't know how the PS4 handles these same calculations (at least I don't).

We can all remember the math of the 64 bit Jaguar vs. 32 bit Satun/PSOne. Obviously 64 bits was better, right?