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The Definitive Bra Size Guide For Gamers™

As any number of women's magazines will tell you, 80% of women are wearing the wrong bra size. That's probably because bra shopping is hell on earth and basically impossible unless you invite a total stranger into the fitting room to help measure you properly, but it might also be a result of our society's complete misunderstanding of what bra sizes even are. If the video game discourse is any indication, most people seem to think bra sizes stop at DD and that anything smaller than "huge badonkers" is in the A-to-B range.

I'm talking, of course, about Tifa Lockhart, who has been accused of having B-cup breasts--as her character model in the Final Fantasy 7 Remake looks different from her extra-busty appearance in the PS1 era--as well as the entire female cast of Mortal Kombat 11, for that matter. Now, these are fictional women who have top-of-the-line physics engines supporting them, so it's not like they really need the extra support from an $80 Lululemon sports bra. But if we're going to use bra sizes as shorthand to talk about fake women's bodies, we're going to do it right, goddammit.

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Lucky for you, I know a thing or two about this. Bra sizes have two main components: the cup size and the band size. The cup size is denoted by letters, like B or DD, and refers to the actual breast part of the bra. The band size is a number based on the size of the person's ribcage area (right under the actual breasts), and it's secretly the more important size.

While most people tend to focus on the cup letter, it's band size that determines cup size. So if you have two people whose actual breasts are exactly the same size, but whose band sizes are different, they'll wear different cup sizes. A 36DD, for example, is the same as a 34DDD--those two people have the same size breasts, but one has a smaller ribcage, so the cup size scales up a bit. Why does Big Lingerie do this? Because the cup size represents the difference between your band measurement and your breast measurement, with one inch difference being an A, two being a B, and so on. The bigger the difference, the bigger the cup size.

Anyway, back to Tifa. Tifa is a Woman of Small Ribcage, so I'm going to guess and say she's a 28 band size. If you look at her for even two seconds, you can see that her chest is a lot bigger around than her ribcage. I'd say it's at least a six- or seven-inch difference, which puts her in the F or G range. Did you know bra sizes go up that far? They sure do!

On top of that, there's also been some discussion around Remake Tifa's bra--specifically that she's wearing a sports bra. Sports bras are generally a bit more constricting in terms of fit, and while some retailers do offer traditional bra sizing options, you'll often see sports bras sold in dress sizes (2, 4, 6, 8, etc.) or in the small-medium-large metric. Because of the design and further size confusion, sports bras often make chests look "flatter" than they are. In Tifa's case, however, it looks like she's wearing a $100-plus designer sports bra that imitates the look of a regular bra. I'd argue the type of bra she's allegedly wearing has little to no effect on the perceived size of her chest... or how hard she punches the hell out of things.

So while it may be true that Tifa's chest looks smaller than it used to be (or perhaps how you imagined it), it's by no means a small chest. Even if you did think she wears a B-cup bra, though, you can still look at her and see that it is not a small chest. Now that you know how bra sizes work, you can go back to the cast of MK 11, too, and observe that they have different bodies and thus fit a variety of bra sizes. And finally, consider that there's nothing at all wrong with small boobs to begin with.

In conclusion, if you think that video games are being censored because suddenly "every" female character has A- or B-cup boobs, you're just plain wrong. And if you must complain, you should maybe consider complaining about ribcage size instead.

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The sad thing is that this even needs to be addressed because of all the idiot "gamers" out there who feel the need to ruin everything all the god **** time. Holy crap. I've been gaming my whole life. I grew up in arcades. My earliest memory is opening an Atari 2600 for Christmas and spending the whole holidays playing Pacman and Donkey Kong non stop. I've been through times where I was scorned and made fun of because I liked gaming, seen gaming become mainstream...and now this. This is the first time I'm starting to actually feel embarrassed to be known as a gamer. I assume this is just a very vocal minority out there (at least I hope it is), but thanks to the garbage fire that is social media and bloody youtube these days it is inescapable and toxic. And its unfortunate because we are in the golden days of gaming, with tons of games for anyone and everyone, and all I ever hear is bitching and crying and toxic a**holes who feel the need to crap on others to feel better about themselves and their sadly fragile egos.

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@ZIMdoom: this is what you consider the golden age of gaming? Jesus. And how do you expect people to react when everything is being deemed offense these days? It’s wearing on people and the fact that the goal post changes everyday doesn’t do much to help.

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@tony56723: yes, why not. There is more games than ever released each year. There are more genres of games than ever and games for all kinds of audiences. We have all the same old style of classics still coming out or being rereleased, we have mobile games, we have battle royals game and story games and genres I don’t even know how to label. We have cross console play and consoles that are fully portable.

People who cry about gaming today are less about the actual games than they are about our recent social attitude of extreme entitlement. Which is displayed by the rest of what you cry about in your response. FF7 is being fully remade and there is hundred if not thousands of people (dudes) on the internet screaming about the injustices that a video game characters boobs look smaller. Seriously? This isn’t about people feeling “weared down” by offensiveness...this is a bunch of immature people who need to grow up and stop acting like triggered snowflakes over a game. It literally doesn’t affect them in any way at all. It doesn’t affect the game story or gameplay or a. Thing else but their fragile boners. It’s embarrassing. Grow up.

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@ZIMdoom: I’m displaying crying? I calmly laid out why people are upset about this debacle and you went on a rant about “entitlement”, “immature people”, “snowflakes”, and “fragile boners.” The irony. But hey I suppose I just need to “grow up.”

People are upset about her breast size being changed due to the fact that 1. It’s different to how she originally looked and 2. The decision was apparently made by Square’s “Ethics Committee” which implies that somehow Tifa’s large breasts are unethical. As I previously stated there are just plenty of people who are getting tired of things they enjoy being changed or censored.

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@tony56723: Oh, and since I decided to do a whole two seconds of fact checking using my super-secret fact finding engine called google - here is a link to a proper translation of the comments from the "ethics committee". Funny how you supposedly aren't acting in bad faith and yet are arguing with me without seemingly knowing the actual facts of the situation.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-06-20-square-enix-ethics-department-advised-change-to-breast-size-on-final-fantasy-vii-character

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@ZIMdoom: I am not entirely sure how this translates to me acting in bad faith. When the story originally broke across multiple sources the mistranslations were what was presented to the public.

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@tony56723: yeah I may be whining about whining, but I stand by everything I’ve said and unlike yourself, don’t need to twist myself into a pretzel to explain my “logic” about why so many “gamers” out there are justified to be so outraged about video game boobs. Your last comment really adheres to the standard troll template which again, further just exposes you as a bad faith actor who believes their bad takes are super “logical” and fact based. Really, it’s just more excuses for bad and embarrassing behaviour from the most toxic part of the community.

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@ZIMdoom: I honestly thought that last post would have been the end of this. But here you are. Again.

No I didn’t have to “twist” myself to explain my “logic.” What part of “People are upset about a character they like being changed to apparently appease outside influences” (what else is an “Ethics” Department looking at) requires any “twisting?” It’s about as straight forward as it gets. Further more people are upset about Tifa being changed for the exact same reason people were upset about Master Chief’s armor redesign in Halo 4 and Dante’s hair not being white in DMC; it’s a preexisting character that they are attached to that is being changed in some way for some reason. Look at Lunafreya from FF15, no one had a problem with her smaller chest. Why? Because she was new and that’s how she was designed. If Tifa had been designed from the get go with a smaller chest we wouldn’t be hearing about this.

My last comment was unserious because from the get go you showed you were not willing to have an actual discussion about the topic at hand. I was more than willing to have an actual discussion with you, but after you threw my response back in my face I decided it’d be more fun to be goofy at that point. Label me a troll if you want, but hey I tried.

Bad faith actor? What. The. Hell. What are you rambling on about? What in the hell have you been rambling on about this whole bloody time? It’s been nothing but a condescending attitude and insults from you and you’re seriously going to sit there and try to say I’m the one being toxic? How the hell is stating “People are upset because a character they like is being changed” toxic? At lest that’s an actual argument and it’s far more than what you’ve presented.

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@tony56723: You want "civil discourse"? Ok. *sigh* Let's do this then. I call you a bad faith actor with bad takes because your first post said, and I quote, "The decision was apparently made by Square's Ethics Committee which implies that somehow Tifa's large breasts are unethical". That is a bad take and a comment not made in good faith. It is an intentionally dishonest interpretation to appeal to emotion rather than fact. It also implies, completely ignorant of this whole discussion and article up top, that her breasts are smaller rather than just more realistically proportioned. If you read the article above you would see that in realistic terms, her breasts are still quite large.

Want to know why else I accuse you of acting in bad faith and bad takes. Because you admitted in your first comment that this isn't necessarily about videogame boobs, but about gamers being so very angry over political correctness or some nonsense. Which implies that making a game more representative of and for women is somehow a bad thing. You know, like how 99.9% of the youtube videos you probably watch ranting about this supposed "issue" are all very angry about smaller videogame boobs, more broad representation of ALL people and ALL gamers as if it is somehow an attack on straight white males. Except it's not and it isn't. These arguments come from the toxic vocal minority who I complained about at the start. ANd while I'm sure you are going to disagree, I have yet to see one single good argument come from this crowd and instead just get more feelings over facts crying and whining about PC culture or some other meaningless nonsense. You know why? Because they are too cowardly to come out and say what they are really thinking...that their videogames aren't JUST for straight white guys anymore and they are mad that maybe "others" may be gamers too. If you disagree with this then please, in the interest of "civil discourse" you CLAIM to care so much about..explain to me how Tifa in this game is bad or how it makes the game bad or how it affects anything at all ever.

Want to know another reason I call this a dumb take made in bad faith? Because you mention people are mad she looks different, like changing Dants' hair color or something. Except Cloud also looks quite different from FF7 on PS1. Nobody is mad about that. Hm...Why is that? The main character and focal point of the game looks totally different from the original version and nobody is outraged. Meanwhile, Tifa in this remake looks much more like the Tifa in FF7 Advent Children movie - which came out 14 YEARS AGO - and nobody seemed to take issue with her appearance at that time. So why now? Why is it such a huge issue and problem now, 14 years after she's already been "changed"? Could it be because these vocal, outraged gamers don't actually care at all about this game and instead are just using it to push their toxic BS and feed the trolls? I think so. But please explain one single thing I've said that is wrong. And since you claim to not be acting in bad faith and wanting civil discourse, I will assume you will prepare a logical and well thought out argument based on facts (not yours or someone else's feelings) without all the twitter troll comments. Because I could go for much longer spelling out all the ways you are wrong, and all the reasons your takes are bad and all the ways I believe you are not here to have a discussion in good faith...but this isn't the best format for long responses.

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@ZIMdoom: I really wish you'd calm down so we could actually have a discussion about this. I'm seriously trying to offer you an olive branch and you keep swatting it away. I'm not this big, bad bully here to ruin the lives of women or drive everyone into a frenzy with dishonest lies.

First and foremost you are throwing a lot of accusations my way. My comment about the ethics committee were based on the information I had at hand at that time. This narrative in which I was acting in bad faith or was "intentionally dishonest" just isn't true, that's not who I am or what I am about. Additionally my comments about Tifa's smaller breast size (though this was an apparent mistranslation, they are not smaller and are instead just restricted by a sports bra) had nothing to do with this particular article and was referring to the then known facts of the interview with Nomura other sites had published. One thing I do find issue with in your arguments about realism is that there are women out in the world that do indeed look like Tifa (slim body type, very large breats, etc) so I don't personally thinks its fair to say that her original design is wholly unrealistic. Though yes I agree her breasts are still quite large (and apparently restricted by a sports bra now).

Well yes I've been quite up front with basically everyone in the comments section about how I feel about censorship. The fact that you decry it as nonsense saddens me a bit, but then again I also understand it's not everyone's cup of tea. Yes there are plenty of gamers, myself included, that are getting a little tired of seeing a media we enjoy making large changes to their content to seemingly prevent any potential outrage that might follow. This is my mind set on all forms of arts really; I believe that a creator/artist should be free to create their art in whatever way they want as art is subjective and wont necessarily please all who view it and when this story (not this article) first broke it was stated that the change was made due to Sqaure's Ethics Committee which goes against my previously stated mindset (though from what I've been able to gather the sports bra was their idea). I also never said that making a game more representative and/or for women would be bad, but at the same time I don't think it's truly possible to create something in which everyone will be happy. If Tifa's large breasts are all it takes for someone to right off a product then I can't honestly say they must have had much interest in it to begin with as Yuffie and Aerith both display a more petite and average stature thus diversifying the group a bit body type wise. I will admit though that is just my personal opinion. Additionally to answer your question I never said Tifa's new design was bad and I never said it would ruin the game. I just feel her orignal design has a right to exist and shoulnd't be changed unless it was due to a decision made by her creator. It all cycles back to the idea of artistic freedom really.

I don't think its fare to generalize the opposition in such a way. Not only do I feel that it is a tad racist and sexist to try and blame all descent on the "straight white males" it also prevents any meaningful discussion from happening. You said it yourself, I don't agree that there hasn't one single good argument. I've seen plenty of people lay out exactly what their concerns are and why they feel that way, but you seem to be generalizing it all as nonsense. I have yet to see one person make the claim that video games should only be for "straight white guys" and no one else, but you seem to be taking that as a "cowardly" act and not them just earnestly expressing how they feel on the current subject which, as I stated previously, only further prevents any meaningful discussions from occurring.

Cloud's design really isn't all that different from how he originally looked minus his hair being a little more in line with how it appeared in Advent Children (additionally Cloud's difference in appearance was never linked to the ruling of an Ethics Committee which were where much of this discussion stems from). If anything I think most would agree that it's stayed quite true to the original source material with just some further fleshing out made from the upgrade in polygons (though I will certainly not state that is a fact as I can't speak for everyone). This next bit is where I disagree with you entirely based on your assertion that "nobody seemed to take issue with her appearance at that time" ;this has been a topic of debate since Advent Children dropped 14 years ago. Even before I was the huge Final Fantasy fan I am today I remember reading discussions (well more like all out warfare at times) between fans of the original and then new design; some people loved it, some people hated it, some people wished her breasts were as big as they were previously, while others liked the new size. Hell listening to them debate which outfit was superior was always fun to me (personally much prefer Tifa AND Cloud Advent attires over the originals (I even have my Miqou'te wearing Cloud AC clothes whenever shes in her Dark Knight glamour)). So no I do not think that is a claim you can make, if anything this Tifa debate is almost an extension of the discussions of old.

"Because I could go for much longer spelling out all the ways you are wrong, and all the reasons your takes are bad and all the ways I believe you are not here to have a discussion in good faith"

This is exactly what I was referring too earlier. Approaching the situation in this manner will never allow a meaningful discussion to blossom and will only help develop a deeper divide.

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@tony56723: “women about why they may want accurate portrayals of women in games.”

Here I’ll try being serious again. What about Tifa’s original chest size makes the existence of Aerith and Yuffie a non factor? You stated that you want more “accurate” portrayals of women in gaming, but FF7 already had that in Aerith (though let’s be clear here; there are women in real life who like Tifa. Stating otherwise just isn’t true.). If Aerith already exists and looks a certain way why must another female character look just like her? Or Yuffie?

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@tony56723: ah ok. I see the confusion. You are calmly explaining something and it keeps coming across as crying over video game boobs and a long string of really stupid takes and bad faith arguments. Maybe I’m being unfair and this really is a very serious issue. Maybe SE really did hold a meeting where they talked about how much they hate big boobs and think they are evil...or “unethical” as you claim. I’m sure you are really serious about this and have talked to women about why they may want accurate portrayals of women in games. Oh wait...you are commenting on an article written by a woman and complaining about why she’s so wrong.

All I can really do at this point is say “get well soon” and keep having a perfectly normal one fighting super serious issues like *checks notes* smaller breast sizes in games. Good luck with that.

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@ZIMdoom: Haha Jesus Christ do you know how to have a civil discussion? XD

If what I’ve said constitutes as “crying” my god you are apparently bawling. Getting so wound up over someone claiming stating their piece cannot be healthy. Haha at least I tried to have a discussion about the topic at hand, all you’ve done is whine and moan about people who were apparently whining and moaning.

Also at no point did I ever state that Square “hated big boobs and think they are evil” (wtf are you even going on about? XD). I stated they literally said in an interview that the decision was made by their Ethics Department to make Tifa’s breasts smaller (or according to more recent updates they slapped a sports bra on her). I’m not claiming shit, just reiterating what has already been said XD

Are you implying a character like Tifa cant exist because she’s not “accurate?” What about all of the slender busty women out in the world? Eesh and apparently I’m the asshole. Also please point where I said the author was wrong. For record I also didn’t know the author was a woman until you pointed it out so yeah it must have totally been because she is a women XD

All I can really do at this point is say “wtf is this person rambling on about” and go back to playing Bloodstained. Thanks for making me laugh pal, it was fun XD

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She is perfect. I honestly have not seen anyone complain about Tifa in the comments of the media I have seen, but I haven't been actively looking either. It is ridiculous that after Square has shown so much attention to the authenticity of the original, that people are looking at this beautiful realization of Tifa, and complaining about her cup size. She is sexy yet respectful, and will always be more then a pair of breasts, for the people who matter. Thanks for your excellent explanation.

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@heidern98: Nobody is complaining about Tifa, probably a couple of dudes on some forum, it's just game journalists looking to be offended by something every day.

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Look at the bright side, we've come a long way from the DDD of the first Lara Croft games to the more normal proportions of the new games and the new movie. I remember the hack going around for Nude Raider which made Lara naked with even bigger badonkers. Heck Croft in the newest Tomb Raider movie is played by the petite Alicia Vikander who could use Jolie's bra as a hammock. That's progress I guess.

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@bdrtfm: I hope you put in the same effort criticizing men in video games and how they fail to represent men in the real world. So far there has been little to no progress in how men are represented in games. It makes men very self conscious that they can't look like the tall, ripped up and steroid-ed out heroes we often see in games.

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@bdrtfm: So large breasts are shameful? Not really sure where you were going with this.

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@tony56723: Where in my comment do I say large breasts are shameful? They're not. But there was a time when every female video game character had large breasts for some reason. Lara Croft had breasts disproportionate to the rest of her body so she's a good example of this. Where I was going with it is that it has been happening for decades where almost all female video game characters had breasts disproportionately larger than the rest of her body - right up until just a few years ago. I mean, are you saying you did not notice this? Kind of hard to miss when the characters boobs are larger than her head. But this doesn't happen as often anymore as seen by the fact that the new Tomb Raider character has average sized breasts and the new movie character is an average sized woman. Though some games do still have DDD sized women in them but they're mostly phone games meant for pervs who get off on anime. How many DDD women do you know that are martial arts experts or very athletic? Probably very few because carrying that much of a front load is hard on the back and many athletic women with very large breasts have breast reduction surgery.

TL;DR It's not necessary for a female video game character to always have large breasts. It's no big deal if they do but it's not necessary. And most women with breasts twice the size of their heads are not very athletic as they tend to have serious back problems to the point many have breast reduction surgery.

Sorry I didn't spell it out for you the first time but I thought it was obvious. Apparently not.

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@bdrtfm: Eesh the condescending nature of your reply is off the charts. I honestly just wasn’t sure what you were trying to get at when you mentioned it was “progress.” Also how many men do you that have Gatling guns for hands? Or can wield swords bigger than their bodies? Or can throw super novas because their mother was implanted with cells of a shape shifting alien during pregnancy? Huh, funny, now that I really think about I never once thought Tifa’s boob size was odd due to everything else going. Oh well back to hanging with the talking lion.

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@tony56723: I'm not the one who wrote the article about boobs so..... There used to be a time when people could express their opinion without a bunch of SJW's mistaking a simple comment about pixel jugs for body shaming real women. Guess those days are gone and now we have to worry about hurting everyone's feelings and asking if our opinion is OK before expressing it. I mean, half a dozen people area pizzed at me over pretend women's pretend boobs. How messed up is that? Next time there's a booby article, I'll be sure to not comment on it all. Don't want to hurt any more kids feelings. All I said was that not having gigantic boobs bigger than the characters head is progress and everyone is acting like I punched a puppy. Freaking internet......

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@bdrtfm: I’m a SJW now? XD

Hey if you wanted a serious responsive maybe you shouldn’t start getting sarcastic in your responses XD

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@bdrtfm: Do you seriously think DD/DDD is that big a cup size? It's closer to average nowadays, and believe me, there are many larger sizes - and not solely applicable to booby folk who are generally more heavily built, either. The largest size on anybody I've known personally was a J cup (UK measurement, which is slightly different to US ones), and I know you can special-order cups up to M from some companies. Now *those* are the *really* huge boobs, compared to DD/DDD. Don't you agree?

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@trialia: LOL. I don't have a clue what a size bra is. When I say DDD I'm talking about huge badonkas. Did you ever play the original Tomb Raiders and other older games? The women had breasts twice the size of their heads. It was ridiculous. Yes, some women have very large breasts. A woman with breasts the size of Crofts in the older games would not be doing backflips and hoisting herself up or even jumping from a lower rock ledge to a higher rock ledge by her fingers only or using martial arts to kick people's arses. Like I said, I've known athletic women who had breasts smaller than those depicted in Tomb Raider games and fighting games and such and they had to have breast reduction surgery because they could not perform well or their backs were being wrecked. Why are people trying so hard to make my comment seem nefarious? Like what the hell? I don't care what bra size is considered huge. I'm talking about huge boobs. I've no idea what bra size those huge boobs require.

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@bdrtfm: Gah, my comment disappeared. I'll sort it. I'm not having a go, just trying to help with your understanding. =P DD really isn't all that big.

If it does help, at all, this picture - http://unfaithful-mirror.net/images/photos/tria/20140817-loncon3-turquoise.jpg - those are 38G. (The blouse was originally worn under the corset, but the boobs kept unfastening the buttons, rofl.)

If you check out the pics in this piece they'll show you what D and G look like more or less compared to each other, in *reality*: https://www.bigcuplittlecup.net/think-know-d-cup-looks-like/

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@tony56723: I don't even think he knows. But i do see he likes shaming big breasted women.

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@rolento25: Shaming big breasted women. LOL, such a drama queen.

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@bdrtfm:

back pedal and defect the comment. You go girl!

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@bdrtfm: I don't see the issue currently, I just don't care. But a random thought I had while reading your comment: is it really "progress"? That makes it sound like women that DO have large breasts should be ashamed.

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@Poodger: Where are you guys getting this? Is reading comprehension no longer taught in schools? I am not saying women with large breasts should be ashamed, I'm saying it's not necessary for every female video game character and video game movie character adaptation to have large breasts like they all did in the past. How is that in any way shaming large breasted women? Honestly. Read what I type and stop inferring things that come solely from your own head and then giving me crap like I actually said what you inferred in your own minds.

I never inferred, implied or even suggested large breasted women should be ashamed of their breasts. Stop saying I did so.

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@bdrtfm: Using the words and phrases "progress", "bright side", "come a long way", and using silly imagery of a larger breasted woman's bra as a hammock suggests that reducing the breast size of women in video games is progressive and a step in the right direction.

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@Poodger: this is exactly what I was referring too. Oh well.

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@Poodger: Umm, that's how you saw it, not how I said it. Here I'll put it in bullet form, maybe that will help.

- Years ago every female video characters had massive sized breasts. So large it was ridiculous and made it seem like every woman on Earth had massive boobs.

- for a while now, women have been saying the proportions are unrealistic. I mean how can every female video game martial artist, tomb raider etc. just happen to have larger breasts than the vast majority of humans in proportion to the rest of their body. Or they were being dressed in ridiculous ways even in recent games. Do you remember Quiet in MGSV? Show me one sniper on this planet who runs around in nothing but a bra. Just one. Doesn't even have to be big boobed, just a sniper wearing only a bra sneaking around taking out bad guys with headshots. The boobs are there for one reason and one reason only - because many men like big boobs.

- Recently, developers have gotten away from the super huge boobs because it was becoming a stereotype where female characters had to have large boobs. It made it seem as though women were being exploited for their sexuality in games and men were being looked at as weirdos who like cartoon boobs. And it was just plain stupid to have athletic women doing martial arts with boobs large enough to knock themselves out.

- The fact that boobs in video games have become more natural looking and of average size you would expect on most athletic people, that is a form of progress in that they are getting away from the stereotypical massive boobed female characters who would have a hard time doing the athletic moves they do in the games.

And the part of Vikander using Jolie's bra was sarcasm. Or did you really think I thought Vikander could use Jolie's bra as a hammock? Jolie had huge breasts before her operation. Vikander has average sized breasts and is petite compared to Jolie. Saying that was just a sarcastic way of saying they've started using more average sized women for these roles.

- So yes, the brightside is that they have come along way and made progress in this area.

Now, if you still find my comment offensive to you or somehow to women you don't know, maybe the problem is just you. Because I cannot fathom how saying devs are getting away from disproportionately oversized boobs in video games is somehow boob shaming large breasted women. How many super large breasted women do you know who mocap for video games doing martial arts and stuff? My bet would be none. If you know one, give me her contact info. and I'll apologize for my blatant boob shaming.

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@bdrtfm: TL;DR

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@Poodger: It took me 2 minutes to write it. Surely you can take the 30 seconds to read it. Or do you prefer drawings ;)

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Game designers are in the pocket...er, teddie...of Big Lingerie.

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