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Venom's Director Addresses The Movie's Biggest Plot Hole

Venom spoilers below!

Whether your opinion of Venom is positive or negative, it's hard to ignore one of the movie's biggest plot holes. There's no arguing that it's there--just ask Venom director Ruben Fleischer, like we did. Here's your spoiler warning--if you haven't seen Venom, proceed at your own risk.

The issue occurs near the beginning of the movie. When the Riot Symbiote escapes the Life Foundation's custody, it finds its way to a crowded marketplace in Malaysia. Naturally, it goes on a killing spree, eventually bonding with an old woman in the crowd. The movie makes Riot's goal at this point explicit: It wants to get to San Francisco, where the Life Foundation's headquarters is located.

The movie then switches perspective to Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy), who proceeds to screw up his entire life by stealing confidential information from his fiance's laptop and using it to halfheartedly confront Life Foundation head Dr. Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed). After a six month time jump, Eddie is a sad sack of a man, having lost everything he cared about, including his job and fiance, Anne Weying (Michelle Williams).

There's the rub: Six months has gone by, yet when we catch up with Riot again, it seems virtually no time has passed. The Symbiote is still inhabiting the same host, which other scenes in the movie confirm is virtually impossible, since all but the most compatible hosts are quickly used up when bonded with a Symbiote. And furthermore, Riot has apparently only just made it to the airport. We asked director Ruben Fleischer, and he confirmed it's simply an unfortunate plot hole.

"Our idea was that Riot was using up the life force of whoever he took, and then he jumped ship when he'd consumed them and then find a new host to carry him further on his journey," Fleischer explained. Obviously that idea got lost somewhere in that six month time jump, when Riot stayed bonded with the old woman for half a year. What was Riot doing for those six months?

"Yeah, that's a good question," Fleischer said. "That's one of our few--hopefully--few logic bumps. But we had to have a passage of time in order to show Eddie's downfall, and that was the one thing that doesn't entirely track."

"But I like to think that old lady was going around murdering all throughout Malaysia, and she was just having a good old time just shooting shards through different people in Malaysia," he continued.

That's a more exciting option than what we'd assumed--that Riot was either temporarily dormant or hibernating, or that it was just pretending to be someone's grandma the whole time.

"Yeah, I mean, who's to know?" Fleischer said.

For more on Venom, check out our breakdown of Venom's after credits scenes, plus all the Easter eggs and references you might have missed. We also chatted with Fleischer about the challenges of making Venom without Spider-Man.

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Just seen Venom 3D. I thought beginning was a little slow, but then, it picks up and was quite enjoyable. Had a lot of laughable moments in the dialog. There was a lot of action from there on out. Very enjoyable. Well worth it. I find that now that they made venom into a super hero of his own accord - I enjoyed it even more. I was more annoyed with Eddie in spiderman 3 movie. I found Eddie in this movie Venom character plot a lot better.That we did not even need spiderman to define Venom. Venom is an entity of his own.

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The answer to the plot hole’s fairly simple. The movie studio wanted to cut corners so they neglected to hire an additional actor to play as Riot’s host at the end of the six month period. They probably figured no one was nerdy enough to care, but alas...here we are. The real way Fleischer should have explained it is, “It’s our story and we say the old lady could last six months. End of plot hole.”

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Movie Synopsis:

When Eddie Brock acquires the powers of a symbiote, he will have to release his alter-ego “Venom” to save his life.

Watch Venom?? [ http://mex.su/jxiTC ]

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The answer is obvious, that old woman was a psychopath! Riot found a home he didn’t wanna leave.

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You need to fire all the writers that are writing these articles. Also fire tour xommunity oe social manager for approving these posts.

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Now there's a scene: Riot knitting booties for the latest grandkid.

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That sounds like someone who just doesn’t care.

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Sounds like the scene somehow got taken out of it's place and moved... Prob post-p **** up..

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More evidence of how hacked to pieces the film was in post-production.

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Should have just had an easter egg styleTV in the background of some shot, playing one of those 'world's most dangerous criminals' shows with the old lady on a 6 month murder spree. Hole filled.

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Absolute dumpster fire of a movie.

Why even have the symbiote land in Malaysia? What's the whole point of that? Just have it land in USA, and move on.

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@al89lan: And why not Malaysia?

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@cyruz_vyruz: because it caused an unnecessary plot hole - the whole point of this article.

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LOL crapy romantic comedy with talentless director and writers

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The old lady was a mutant with exceptional healing abilities. We're in the Marvel Universe. Use your imagination and stop trying to fester hate on a good movie. If thats ALL u could muster for this , you are wasting space.

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I thought the movie was a fun watch, no master piece but it was enjoyable and funny at times. I hope Venom will cross over into a spiderman movie at some stage though now they've made the effort to explain the symbiotes and give an origin story. Also hopefully Eddie Brock's Ex will go crazy and bond with her own symbiote like in the comics.

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