Uncharted 3 to use Sony's online pass

Sony Spain software manager Juan Jimenez says nascent network pass program will be extended to Naughty Dog's upcoming adventure shooter.

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In addition to depicting another skirmish between the last vanguard of humanity and the Chimera, Resistance 3 was the first game to incorporate Sony's network pass program. Now, a Sony employee has confirmed that Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception will also employ the tactic.

Uncharted 3 might seem a little lonely without online features.
Uncharted 3 might seem a little lonely without online features.

Speaking with Spanish-language site The Vault, Sony Spain software manager Juan Jimenez said Uncharted 3 will follow the network pass model of Resistance 3.

Drake's Deception, and other forthcoming titles that are part of the online pass program, will come bundled with a single-use code that grants users "full online access for that title." Secondhand gamers will need to pay $10 for the pass.

The online pass initiative is seen as an effort to make buying games new more attractive than buying them used (a sale that puts no money in the publisher's pocket). Electronic Arts, THQ, and Ubisoft are among the publishers that have used online passes in their own games.

For more on the game, check out GameSpot's previous coverage of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception.

[UPDATE]: A Sony representative confirmed for GameSpot that Uncharted 3 will use an online pass.

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@worlock77 : Not really...there are hundreds of online gaming servers that have no charge what about wii,xbox,ds,3ds,psp,and countless other systems that had many,many titles with online play (thus servers) for free?

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Uncharted is without a doubt (imo) one of Sony's strongest assets but now it is steadily losing my respect,the gaming industry isn't being hurt by used games sales,if that were true then things like this would've been around several generations ago because used game stores and sales have been going on for a LONG time.This isn't in response to massive debt because of used game sales this is Naughty Dog grasping for even money (though they will already be making money hand-over-fist with Uncharted 3 sales) and charging money for a feature that most games offer for free..not to mention the shameless Subways promotion (including subways clothes and a ''$5 footlong'' animation....no I am sadly not kidding).Looks like Nathan Drake isn't the only Gold-digger (if you know what I mean) at Naughty-Dog...

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Y can't devs see that used games mean more opportunity to move dlc in these days and times.

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@HaloPimp978, My thoughts exactly. I couldn't care less about MP and online, as that's not really the reason I buy UC for--never was. And to top that off, I'm not buying it used anyway; so it really doesn't matter.

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Since I already pre-ordered this, I have a question about this. Me and my brother use the same PS3, will this code be for one PSN ID or for the PS3?

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Im pretty sure Naughty Dog gets 0$ from those online passes....this is all just a bunch of bull....used sales have been around since forever. Its only now that they have a way of tracking it...(through trophies and such) that they think its so bad....The people buying it used probably got it cheap and wouldnt have bought your game new anyway.

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Meh, looks like this'll have to be another game I pass on. It looks good enough, but I just can't support this Online Pass BS.

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If you buy a game used and play online you're still using their servers. Servers are not free to run and maintain, they cost money. It's fair to ask you to contribute a few bucks to that cost if you're going to be utilizing that service.

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Well this will stop me from getting it overseas. Damn you sony.

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I wish this would stop.

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Won't effect me since I per-orded UC3 a long time ago, but t I play UC for SP not the MP.

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Looks like Dark Souls will get GOTY instad of Skyrim and Uncharted 3 DLC BS.

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@sulaymanqazi What about all the companies that will lose money that rent out games? I'm pretty sure the amount of jobs this will cause our economy to lose is greater than the amount it will create as the industry tries to push out the middle man for the sake of corporate greed through nickel and dimeing customers and giving them no real ownership of the material they buy. The real purpose behind this push is because the gaming industry wants more money and think they deserve used game sale dollars. Let me ask you this. If you bought a couch and one day you decided to sell it to me, do you think anyone would want to buy it if the couch maker required them to also pay them a fee? I highly doubt it. I usually don't support legislation against the video game industry, but I really hope the entertainment industry in general gets a bill thrown at it to protect the consumers.

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hmmmm not going to effect me cause i buy all my games new....but what about stores that rent out games? although i can kinda understand where sony is coming from....what with gamestop re-selling games at full profit :/

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the reason why people get laid off is because of used games. used games make gamestop rich and not the people who made it. i honestly think it was smart for Sony to do that.

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People that say you should support the devs are full off BS. First of all you ain't supporting devs, you're supporting publishers. Second of all, publishers have tons of money, they won't go bankrupt from used sales, whatever they wanna tell you. The way they should combat used sales is by making good games (uncharted for example), so people wanna buy day one, and not wait on used sales. Also if the game is good, people won't wanna trade it in. Another way is to give out dlc after some time, so people won't resell (free prefarable, look at Rockstar in RDR) Also people saying: it's only 5 bucks, don't be cheap. Yeah, it's 5 bucks if you're a retard and buy from gamestop used. There are much better deals on ebay and amazon, and you give money directly to gamers, not some greedy company..

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@raydawg2000 Your completely missing my point. Buying a game used is the same as buying a car used. I gave an example that not all used games are in mint condition. Which is the same as a used car. These companies don't deserve a cent of used game sales. They already received their money from the initial sale. They don't need to get paid twice. Their just making up a BS argument that isn't backed by any logic or facts.

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If I purchase the game and sell it to one or two people, it is nothing other than 3 people sharing the cost of a game who otherwise would not buy it. A sale where the cost is shared by multiple customers is still a sale. In this case, I will not buy it because I can't share the cost with others. I'm not paying that much for a game I can't resell. Sony loses a sale. Its not like the people that were going to buy it used are going to buy it either. Nice math Sony. Everyone loses.

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It's very rare that I buy games secondhand, and I'm not about to buck that trend on Uncharted 3: a game worth pre-ordering if ever there was one. I for one have no problem with publishers wanting to charge for online passes. It's not like it's a continuous online subscription service, and for now it's the only way publishers can get a piece of the secondhand market pie, which is only fair. For consumers to buy secondhand games is like downloading or buying pirated music or DVDs, while the retailers are like drug distributors diluting their stock in order to maximise profits. At the end of the day, it's the producers who are being left out. Is it too much to ask that you thank them for good games by paying them something?

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@Justforvisit Agree! I buy this for sp campaign.

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@Madgnad If the disc was that bad of condition then its your fault for buying it. would you actually buy a used car that was in such horrible shape and expect it to last long? Im guessing not very car savvy

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Like you can get it used for a good price anyway. It's gonna cost you $55 from GS anyway, you might as well throw in the extra $5 and get it new. But yeah, I knew the publishers would find something sooner or later that works. This is it. Get used to it.

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Its not a matter of whether its cheap or expensive It's just impossible

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The problem is when you live in South America. Online pass are non existent here. This kills any chance of someone here playing the game online. Everything is made for three regions north America, Europe and Asia. This is a horrible news for any gamer here

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Didn't play Uncharted 2 online much anyway. But then I don't buy used games either.

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@ticklemonster1 The internet connection is out of Sony's jurisdiction and you don't PlayStation Plus, so... and you mentioned charging for the game... if you bought the game new it doesn't affect you.

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@ ticklemonster1 You realize that the game devs only see money from game sales, right? Refusing to pay for what they provide is biting the hand that feeds.

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So now we have to pay to recycle. Makes sense.

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I buy good games always new anyways, so no big deal. I rather doubt I'll ever go online :P

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Although I am not at all a fan of the network pass, i am pretty ok with this as a game like Uncharted is a special edition pre-order for me

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what the hell!! it isnt enough to charge for the system, the game, the internet connection and playstation plus?!!

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This should surprise no one. At first I wasn't down for the online pass deal when EA first started doing it. Now I think that solely walling off the multiplayer, which on consoles that can't do dedicated servers isn't guaranteed to remain in the next 5 or 7 years anyway isn't such a bad thing. They do have to run the server and what not and they don't see a dime from used game sales; however, I think that passes should be made less of a burden on the consumer by having a system where the first account to use the pass included with the game gets a finite number of "invites", so that his/her family members or room mates or whatever can also use his/her game online without having to pay extra money. So if you buy the game brand new, more people can use it online. If you buy it used you still have to get the pass and you won't get the same sharing privileges that a pass in a brand new game has. Unfortunately I tried to submit this idea to PS Blog.Share and it didn't go through. P.S if you buy used, get a price that makes sense. It makes no sense to pay all that money just to save a Lincoln for something that God knows who had it and how many had it before you did. None at all. P.S.S. Naughty Dog is awesome. Do not blame them. If you must be angry at anyone, be angry at SCE. P.S.S.S. I originally referred to a $5 as a "Jackson." Mistake corrected.

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Come on Sony, I really don't wanna a reason not to get this game. Whatever, I was probably gonna buy this before it would have been significantly frugal to buy it used anyway. But this online plass stuff stills makes me PO'd.

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@raydawg2000 Who said the disc is in 100% working condition. I've bought discs that were scratched up pretty bad and only worked for a month.

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@Madgnad Used cars work fine but they never run like a perfectly brand new car, always something with them. Same with a game, it should work fine but just not like a brand new game =)

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I don't understand why people are okay giving money to the retailers and not to the dev teams putting out the games. Give your heads a shake, people! Naughty Dog is not an evil money-crazy company. Gamespot is.

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@Enterprise-E You make a very good point I mean the on-line pass is not that much of an issue for me either because I don't like second hand games either.

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thnx for introducing this bullsh*t EA!!

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Lets be honest here people. This only affects those who choose to buy the game used and quite frankly if you were buying the game used you are getting screwed anyway. Seriously you are not saving that much by buying the game used especially when you only save 5 dollars. Also if you didn't want to pay 60 bucks for it just wait till the price drop on the game. Its not like these games stay full price forever. Take Uncharted 2 or Bad Company 2 for example. Those games are 20 bucks now and have tons content in them. Hell I waited till there was a steam sale before i purchased Batman Arkham Asylum for the pc for $10 which influenced me to buy the sequel at full price. At the end of the day its up to you what you choose to buy and not buy.

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It must suck for Gamestop, however. Does anyone know if they charge $10 less on the used games because the online pass is $10? Or do you end up paying for a total of $65 for a $60 because you had to pay the $10 pass on top of the $55 used game price?

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@maximumbarmage, What an astute comment. Only a simpleton complains about things. A real supergenius thinks complaining is a waste of time. What does he consider more worthwhile than complaining? Complaining about complaining!

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Why is a game having an online pass suddenly news? I've bought tons of games that use them over the past year. Simpletons complaining about this seemingly don't have a clue what they're actually complaining about.

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@Madgnad, Yeah, I can't believe they're so openly on the side of the game companies here. Because "a sale that puts no money in the publisher's pocket," is the publishers' battle cry. Yet Gamespot has no trouble repeating it as if it were a completely uncontroversial fact. They could have at least added "some publishers believe..."

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this online pass is pissing me off

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@ Madgnad - Why are you raging? This is perfectly acceptable. To use your analogy - it's more akin to you selling your new car and then that person taking it back to the dealer and wanting a full tank of gas and a new set of tires on the car for free since you had that perk when you bought your car new. It costs money for the folks to run the server, and to develop the game. Cars aren't a great analogy since most dealers make money off of servicing the cars on the road, but in gaming, there's very limited amount of 'service' - it's sell it once, and that's normally about it. It costs tens of millions, and for some blockbusters - hundreds of millions of dollars, and they need to recoop those costs. It's not about greed, it's about running a profitable business. If you can't flip a profit making games, you won't be in the gaming business for long. Before you say "well, that's there problem" - I think we can all say that GTA 4 was a critically acclaimed game, but that cost over $100 million to develop. In order for Rockstar to BREAKEVEN, they had to sell about 2,500,000 copies of that game (assuming that the 'average' per copy that went back to the developer was $40 - which is reasonable since your brick and mortars take a cut, and price drops, etc.). So if you want good games, expect to have to pay for them. Quit your complaining about greed and go buy new. Used games do nothing for the industry but run it into the ground.

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While the idea is to make astronomical profits off of their games, it does happen that AAA publishers put out games at a loss or for marginal bottom-line. They do all the dev work, so why should the retailers profit off the secondhand sale with no piece of the pie going to the publisher? Used game sales are contributing to studio closures. I don't think anyone in these forums would be satisfied playing exclusively EA and Activision titles for the rest of their days, but they're the only 2 who could survive this paradigm shift despite the profit hit. This is totally justified... in my opinion.

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@ Jawehawk-DK 1. They will still be charging the same prices they have been for DLC. If $10 per used sale - which is a corporate imposed tax - would fix the woes of the industry, they would have implemented this a long time ago. 2. Between DLC and this, they are effectively raising the price of games, to a probable average of $75 a title (as an example, Mortal Kombat ends up being $75 - 80 after DLC). And games - as I have said numerous times on this site - are not expensive. Again, between ballooning development team sizes and prolonged development costs (read: online multiplayer) the cost of production keeps increasing. This is no longer the days of release and pray play testing caught everything. Gone are the days of getting together with a multitap to play one of the few games that had more than two players. And - once again - they are not losing any sales to the used market. They have already made their money since retailers pay up front for the product and publishers will not allow for returns on product that will not sell.

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"The online pass initiative is seen as an effort to make buying games new more attractive than buying them used (a sale that puts no money in the publisher's pocket)." OMG. This makes me rage everytime I read it. It doesn't make them any money because they already got their money from the initial sale. This is pure greed. This is the only industry that thinks they deserve money a second time. If I buy a used car I don't have to pay $1000 extra to Ford or Honda if it's their brand. So what makes this any different?