Two New Xbox One Consoles in Development, One Set for E3 2016 Reveal - Report [UPDATE]

Microsoft poised to announce Xbox One console revision, new streaming devices, and tweaked controller, according to separate reports.

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[UPDATE] Polygon has reported that the performance target for the upgraded Xbox One "Scorpio" is 6 teraflops. If true, this means the "Scorpio" would run at more than four times the power of the regular Xbox One, which is set at 1.32 teraflops. The original story follows:

Microsoft is expected to announce an Xbox One hardware revision and multiple new streaming devices at E3 in June, according to Microsoft blogger and podcaster Brad Sams.

According to Sams, who held a livestream on YouTube discussing information he had received from sources, "the Xbox mini is a real thing."

Although he didn't provide further details on it, The Verge's Tom Warren has said the "new Xbox at E3 will be 40 percent smaller."

Sams' sources have also indicated a more significant hardware revision is planned, but won't be announced at E3 2016. It is more likely for next year, he said.

Shortly after the livestream finished, Kotaku published an article claiming that Microsoft is preparing "at least two new Xbox models for release in the next two years."

According to Kotaku, this year's model is believed to include a 2TB hard drive, while next year's model is codenamed Scorpio and will have a more powerful GPU. It will also be "technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift." This may have been foreshadowed by the partnership between Microsoft and Oculus, which paved the way for Xbox One controllers to be included with retail bundles of the VR device.

Stream Boxes

During his livestream, Sams also claimed Microsoft will separately announce new streaming hardware at E3, and will reveal devices akin to Google's Chromecast and Amazon's Fire Stick.

"They're going to have two devices, it's going to be one [for] super streamers, think a Roku style device, and then another device that's going to have more features," Sams said.

"What I think the differentiation between these two devices are, I'd imagine the smaller devices will be for streaming only ... but the other device I honestly think is where they're going to start using app leverage. I could see this device sitting in the cabinet and being able to play Windows Store games."

Microsoft is reportedly working on both a slim Xbox One and a more powerful version
Microsoft is reportedly working on both a slim Xbox One and a more powerful version

Sams clarified he doesn't believe either devices will be capable of playing high-end games such as Rise of the Tomb Raider, but would be better suited for "lightweight games," much like the Apple TV.

In terms of pricing, Sams said early indications have been varied, with the low-end device reportedly being around $100 and the high-end one between $150-$175.

Further Strides on PC

Microsoft will also continue its shift towards presenting Xbox as a platform across multiple devices, according to Sams, who highlighted the recently introduced cross-platform play between PC and Xbox with Rocket League.

"Look to see more of that," he said. "I'm hearing Microsoft is looking to bring the Xbox interface to the PC," he added, which would address calls for the return of Media Centre.

Kotaku's sources state this is codenamed "Project Helix," and developers have told the site Microsoft intends to release all future flagship games across Xbox One and PC.

GameSpot has contacted Microsoft for a statement.

Microsoft has announced its E3 conference will take place at 9:30 AM Pacific on Monday, June 13.

In March, Xbox boss Phil Spencer discussed the possibility of console hardware one day becoming upgradable, saying Microsoft is building towards a future where its games consoles will be upgradable.

Phil Spencer has previously talked down suggestions that Microsoft is working on a console upgrade, though the rumour originated from his own comments at a press conference.
Phil Spencer has previously talked down suggestions that Microsoft is working on a console upgrade, though the rumour originated from his own comments at a press conference.

"People have asked me before, are we going to do another console, and I say I fully expect that we will," he said. "And people say well, why do you say fully expect? Why don't you just say yes? I'm in a job right now--I make decisions based on what's today; I can't always predict the future. But if you think about the strategy we're on, the strategy is a long-term vision that includes multiple hardware generations on both console, and frankly PC.

"I've said the 'end of a generation' and this step-function that happens is not something I embrace. I think it's something we can do better at. I see it in music, I see it in books, I see it in movies. When I buy digital content, that digital content stays with me and I'm able to use it when I got out and get new devices."

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Not hyped about a slimmed down version really, depending on what it offers. But, a more powerful xbox one next year has me feeling excited and sorry for my wallet at the same time.

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Ive been at this website a looong time and every time GS writes about Xbox One theres always ps fanboys trash talking in the comments. But it looks like things have changed for some reason, wonder why XD

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@Tommi88: we're starting to feel sorry for you, not nice to kick someone when they're down

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I have to admit, I'm a little worried and sad based on this update. I'm hoping that they announce the Xbox 4X "Scorpio" available THIS year. Next year, even with true PC gaming and VR support might be a little late to the party.

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if they roll out a potential upgrade path for current X1 users, I may bite if it sweetens the deal enough, and MS could do that.

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I am all in for being able to play all my games on future console hardware a la PC master race. I am just a bit worried about how much more expensive console gaming might get. Does this mean we will have to buy a new console every two to three years? I'll wait and see what Microsoft has in mind.

I would really like it if Microsoft implemented crossbuy, buy a game once and enjoy it on both PC and Xbox One if bought digitally.

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I could see crossbuy happening. Project Helix makes it sound like they want the Xbox and PC to share the same ecosystem.

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I don't get it. Where are all the superior Sony "loyalists" and their smug comments? I haven't seen one. Could it be another fairweather jump is coming?

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This year the slim comes out. We know that for sure. But next year isn't very specific. Is it an upgrade or a whole new generation? Something tells me a whole new generation.

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This is A WHOLE NEW CONSOLE GENERATION...so what happened to "we're not upgrading" Phil? More LIES!!!

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He didn't say that.

1. He said he doesn't want people to have to take their consoles apart to upgrade.

2. He said he wants to get rid of the idea of "generations" and make it so every game is playable on future devices, from now on.

3. He said that if they do upgrade, they aren't going "point 5" upgrades, that it will be substantial. 4x the power IS substantial. that's not an upgrade, that's a new generation. and he NEVER SAID they would not have a new generation.

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@Tekarukite: The same guy ALSO said that they were going to support Kinect2...now...where's the line up for Kinect 2 games lol He also said that they were going to focus on more first party support yet most 2016 exclusives are third party. HE ALSO SAID that QB along with MANY other games were going to be Xbox One exclusive months before announcing that ALL MS GAMES WERE GOING TO PC AS WELL...

Lies Lies and more LIES!!!

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Microsoft moving deeper into the PC gaming space? *shudders*

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This doesn't sound like an upgrade, it sounds like a whole new console generation.

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@northArrow: That's because IT IS!!!

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so around r9 390/ 390x performance........ im guessing

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Well, if it's not too expensive and is actually 4x more powerful. I'll consider getting one. Still not 100% sure though.

I would love to see the fanboys on both sides change their tunes.

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As the old saying goes "you can't polish a turd"

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@Moonco: https://youtu.be/yiJ9fy1qSFI

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@MrFreehuggs: without even clicking i know it's mythbusters lmao

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@MrFreehuggs: Why or why did I click on that video? lol

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This is great news (especially about the Scorpio). I was really let down to learn that Xbox had no plans for VR (Hololens is AR). I had even toyed with the idea of getting the upcoming PS4k just to take a shot at VR. But now that I know MS has plans of its own I can comfortably wait...

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an affordable "PC" that plays PC quality VR - and presumably for considerably less money? yes please!

(current PC+Oculus combos start at $1500. If they can make an Xbox 4K + Oculus combo cost $1000?!? or even $1200 that will be so amazing!!)

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This is the end of don matrtrick's xbox and the beginning of phil's xbox one. Don messed up the design so bad that of course they had to redo it. It's shows that they are dedicated to the brand in my opinion!

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This generation is like the sega genesis all over again, except instead add on hardware were getting stand alone hardware.

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So Phil Spencer lied about Xbox not upgrading, what a surprise...

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@livedreamplay: I swear,the reading comprehension of fanboys get selective more than ever before lol
"I’m not a big fan of Xbox One and a half. If we’re going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers," Spencer said
"If we’re going to go forward with anything, like I said, I want it to be a really substantial change for people"

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@sladakrobot: Funny that a couple of weeks ago (when PS Neo was rumored), when I was saying that I believe Xbox One will have an upgrade too, people were giving me the same quotes and were calling me a fanboy. Can you please make up your minds? Or you can keep calling everybody a fanboy as you continue to swallow up lies from Microsoft... your choice ...

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@livedreamplay: Well,you said Phil lied which he didnt.
You should make up your mind instead

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@sladakrobot: He didn't ? Continue to tell yourself that ...

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@livedreamplay: Sorry but if cant you read,i cant help you.

He clearly said that he wont upgrade if there is not a substantial leap forward.
Scorpio seems to be that leap if the rumors are true.

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@livedreamplay: He said that the Xbox wouldn't be made modular, not that it wouldn't be upgraded

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@MrFreehuggs: Of course, he didn't literally say "I won't upgrade it" but he said something that meant exactly that, exactly when people were raging about the PS4.5. Here it is: "I’m not a big fan of Xbox One and a half. If we’re going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers". I don't know about you, but that sure sounds like he's trying to say he won't upgrade xbox one.

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@livedreamplay: actually that straight up says there would be an upgraded box it just wont be a 1.5 as in a small upgrade. Stupid fanboys.

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@xcael: Yes, he actually meant that he would love the idea of an upgrade, but to 6 tera flops, not 5, nor 7. I was just to stupid to read between the lines. Thank you, dude. Luckily we have smart people like you around to enlighten us stupid fanboys. :))

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@livedreamplay: "If we’re going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers." I guess it's objective, but I would consider >4x the power of the original X1 to be a big number. Hell, some Sony fans consider the power difference between X1 and PS4 to be huge. So, I'd imagine those same people would agree that this is a big difference also.

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@MrFreehuggs: I wasn't talking about how powerful the device is, but ok...

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@livedreamplay: It's right in the quote you used...

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so this time Scorpio would be 40% more powerful than the Neo, how will playstation owners cope with the Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet?! i guess the argument would to be that its "all about the games" and "graphics aren't everything".

i'm not buying new consoles, i'm investing in corn and coke. the next year is going to a Civil War event.

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@tajirinere: Phil did say he didn't want to do a Xbox 1.5, jumping from 1.3 to 6 teraflops definitely constitutes a major upgrade. If this turns out true, I imagine Sony fans would revert to games again like you said.

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@pspearman: Just as Xbox fans are reverting to games right now. Eventually, both are right, even if they don't mean it - it is all about games.

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So,this is one of the shorter console gens :-)
I dont mind but the technic is not not everything.

We saw barely any devs trying out meaningfull utilization of the X1/PS4.
I mean things like the AI. With so much more power over the last gen consoles,we still have mostly dumb as sh!t AI in games.

Why forcing a AI squad to a player? Why are the AI cars like they was in the past?

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@sladakrobot: mgs v made the greatest leap with enemy ai. going back to any other game now and the enemies always feel a bit too dumb for my taste. the latest assassins creed game has the stupidest ai i have ever seen.

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@Xristophoros: Good to hear...sadly i am not a fan of MGS

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@sladakrobot:

Xbox Generations

Original Xbox - 4 years

Xbox 360 - 8 years

Xbox One - 4 years

Nope. This isn't the shortest gens

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@solokingrobert: Where do i say it was the shortest?
I said "shorter"