Those PS5 October Release Date Rumors Aren't True, Says Sony

After a job listing suggested a launch window, Sony has set the record straight on the PS5 launch window.

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Following a job listing suggesting that Sony will launch the PlayStation 5 this October, the company has stated that the month was included in error. The PS5 is not confirmed for a launch in October, and the final release date--or even release window--is still unknown at this point. We'll have to wait for official word from Sony to learn when the console will launch, and with Sony saying that it plans to share details on PS5 launch games, that could come relatively soon.

The job listing was created for a position at Sony Interactive Entertainment, and hosted on a Japanese recruitment website. The line in question mentioned that the PlayStation 5 would launch in October, which was the first mention of an exact release month for Sony's next-generation console.

Japanese publication Famitsu contacted Sony for comment, who stated that the information was erroneously included by the recruitment company in question.

Sony have been slowly revealing new details about the PS5 and its approach to the next-generation of its games. A few weeks ago, it revealed the DualSense 5; the PS5's official controller with a host of new functionality for games to take advantage on. It has also revealed PlayStation Studios, a new brand that collects all of its exclusives under one banner.

By comparison, Microsoft have already revealed their new console, the Xbox Series X. Microsoft is also hosting monthly streams leading up to the launch of its new console, with the first showcasing third-party games scheduled to launch on the new hardware. Microsoft also had to clarify rumors of a potential Thanksgiving launch date for the Xbox Series X, after it was mentioned on its website.

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that video guy voice pronunciation of sony is so bad.

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Swen Vincke is going to piss in his pants when sees the next-gen consoles. I bet he will still say we can't release on the next-gen consoles since they are not "powerful enough".

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Depends how far along PS5 is to being finalized and in production so probably at this point only small tweaks can be made and boosting performance may cause a heating problem. Sony buys and order last in bulk so too big of a change in design can cost the company a lot money.

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that might just be excuse for corona since everything is delayed for a week or two since the only important things like toilet paper are top priority

the DUO card was a fail, the psvita memory card was also a fail, why making the same mistake with the custom ssd?

anyone that have ssd inside of ps4 the loading isnt different from the ps5 loading time

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Hm. Saying it was included by mistake isn’t the same thing as saying the information itself is wrong.

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@danmu: Might be a translation thing...

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@danmu: That's a very good point. I hope you're on the right track with that. That's gonna be a bit earlier than I was expecting in the year, and this year has been garbage. That'd make it just a bit less so.

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No, it won't make you breakfast.

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@proceeder: But will it mow the lawn, Proceeder? 🚜🐍

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To me, PS5 release is in summer or late 2021. First same-gen console versions usually shit.

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Not like I expected to be legit when I heard about it.

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Hope they delay it to overclock that weak 9.2tflops.

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@hardwenzen: its 10.28TFS but ok.

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@hrv_25:

10.28 is still a bottleneck. 12TFS is the way to go. I'll expect PS5 revision 12 TFS in a year after release.

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@Jelster79: There are different and clever ways of gaining higher performance and possibly speeding up the performance past the 12 TFs model you're comparing it too, size isn't everything as im sure you've heard ahaha.

"Blast processing" my friend!!!

Im sure Sony have a plan.

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Blast processing was more or less a Sega marketing scheme....

Developers won’t take of performance unless the video game console with largest audience can it’s why PC games have minimum and recommend requirements.

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@Jelster79: explain how 10.28 is a bottleneck? I am curious.

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@hrv_25: in my experience, people who want to argue about flops fail to understand that consoles are not pcs and so they don’t understand that directly comparing dedicated gaming hardware to pc hardware is faulty.

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@danmu: The Tflop debate is already exhausting and these consoles haven't even been fully revealed yet. The Tflop difference between Xbox One X and PS4 Pro is a slightly bigger gap and from what I've seen there isn't a major improvement when comparing games. Games on One X certainly have their advantages compared to PS4 Pro but not to the extent where it's a night and day difference. I'd say the average person couldn't tell the difference.

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Wow, to be honest I think the Xbox one X is a brilliant console, and I very much dislike the Xbox series X, but on paper it makes absolute sense it's built that way (sex)for insane airflow but there will be trade off, on portability when traveling where the Xbox one X scores in that department.

However if Sony builds those components in a Xbox one X form factor it's going to suffer tremendously when pushing 4k 120fps raytracing enabled scenes, or 30fps 8k ray tracing disabled.

Seems they are having a design issue from all the rumours.

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@Crazy_sahara: "4k 120fps raytracing enabled scenes, or 30fps 8k ray tracing disabled."

I'd say there is little to no chance of 4k 120fps with raytracing this gen. From my understanding that would be extremely demanding even for a high end PC. 8k sounds ambitious as well. It seems like we are just scratching the surface of 4k, I think 8k games are still a ways off. Most people haven't even upgraded to 4k yet, don't think many people are rushing out for an 8KTV when there is little to no content available in the format.

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@Crazy_sahara: I highly doubt a company who is designing all the hardware from the ground up to fit a specific vision/philosophy is struggling with console design. If you watched the extremely long and boring hardware discussion a month or two back, they’ve clearly put a LOT of thought into hardware design. Whether it pays off for them or not is the bigger issue.

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@Crazy_sahara: There are not any design hits. It was an article propogated by a Microsoft streamer who did the same exact spin with the PS4/Pro. And no one will be pushing 4k120 with these consoles. 1) Most people won't even have the capability to leverage HDMI 2.1 because they won't have it. 2) Economic downturn from upgrading all their components (Display, Receiver, Cabling) limiting them to HDMI 2.0a which will max out at 4k60 4:2:2 Chroma - and 3) Developers won't spend the insane amount of time and energy to optimize for it based on the above factors. People need to quit spinning this garbage because it isn't coming true until the NEXT gen of consoles after PS5 and Series X. Period.

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@Crazy_sahara: I don't know what you're talking about.

How is any of the hardware, PlayStation or Xbox, going to be able to push anything near 120fps in 4k? not to mention 8K. That's definitely not happening.

I have a 9900k 2080TI PC and it struggles to maintain 60 at ultra with some peaks near 100, but never more than a few seconds. to get to 120 I had to drop to High. Not very high, High.

With the exception of Sony's new SSD, there's nothing in the specs that suggest wither sony or microsoft can get to 120fps. With or without ray tracing.

If they pull this off, i will sell my PC on the very next day.

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PC gaming and video games consoles are not the same.

Video games consoles are specifically design to get as much performance out of the least amount of hardware, resources and footprint with special hardware but PC is designed to be interchangeable which has it’s advantages and disadvantages like using more space and resources.

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@tlpina: Well for starters there's one reason.

I don't know what you're talking about.

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@tlpina: I have a 9900k 2080TI PC and it struggles to maintain 60 at ultra with some peaks near 100, but never more than a few seconds. to get to 120 I had to drop to High. Not very high, High

Ask your self the question why that is, are you a software engineer, can you fix and facilitate bandwidth instructions from the GPU and cpu, do you have any overhead instructions from some learning algorithm, does the developers you're friends with help with custom designed templates so you get your hardware where you need to go.

Well the obvious Answer is you cannot afford a quadro varient GPU with tensor cores, and you cannot hire a engineer to rewrite instructions for the game you want because the markets not made for you unless you're the one making the game, then enough said.

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@Crazy_sahara: Ask yourself this question, do you really think these next gen consoles are going to be out performing high end PCs when that has never been the case with consoles, especially when it comes to frame rate?

It's a bad sign for 4k 120fps that Assassin's Creed Valhalla, a cross gen game, is targeting 30fps on new consoles. This game on next gen isn't even going to double the frame rate of current consoles and people have hopes of 4k 120fps. Think you might want to simmer down those expectations.

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@sparent180: omg, well I'll let you work that out genius, clearly the answers somewhere in there.

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What is the SSD going to do? Save time.

Assets need to be loaded in the ram, buffer.

Will the PS5 have a RAM drive?

I wouldn’t read much into what Sony announces, Sony is pretty big on blowing smoke.

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@systemoverload: so y discussed at length their hardware design and why. And find it pretty funny you admit to not listening but still share your “beliefs” of what the hardware can or can’t do.

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@tlpina: well for starters, you don't program the architecture for direct X 12 ultimate nor know the ingredients used to push the necessary requirements (you just read what you need and down load drivers, nor is Nvidia optimised from the core for Navi 2) and with the GPU written on proprietary tech I'd say it's more then capable at 4k at 120fps on a oled c9.

No idea what you're talking about.

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@Crazy_sahara: So. You're saying that a 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs and a Memory Bandwidth of 448GB/s. is going to, not only outperform, but crush a video card with 14.2TFOPs, 68CUs annd a Memory Bandwidth of 616GB/s with some software Tweaking?

And that Sony has figured out what no one else has been able to?

EA (Crytek included), Activision, Square Enix, Rockstar, Ubisoft and the list goes on. They've all been working with FAR more powerful machines and have all been asleep at the wheel.

I just played with the setting on my PC, and reached 4K 120 on BF5, which is one of the easiest games to run. I had to lower almost all settings to LOW, anti-aliasing is off, no ray tracing and field of view is on medium.

If sony pulls this off on that machine, the graphics are going to be so washed out you might as well play on 1080p.

But again... AS you pointed out, I "did not program the architecture", so what do i know.

I guess we'll talk in December, when you realize 4K 120Hz means the same thing in PS5 as 4K 60Hz meant for the PS4 pro.

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@tlpina: Don't put words in other peoples mouths it's rude.

But again... AS you pointed out, I "did not program (facilitate) the architecture", so what do i know,

And that is true you didn't, you have no idea what instructions direct X 12 ultimate uses to save on calculations used for ray tracing (and we will know when halo infinite arrives, and Sony's last of us ) with bench mark and key performance notes because these people know what they're doing, while nvidia and amd are there only to sell and reiterate mores law not tell you how you should write instructions for that game you cannot play effeciently.

Just because epic studios announces Unreal engine 5, or when Ubisoft announces a down turn in capabilities it's a automatic ref flag.

That's their proprietary software not Sony's or Microsoft, what they do with their software is entirely up to them.

By time the 3080ti releases people will be complaining about 8k. I here alot of complaints

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@tlpina: It amazes me anyone thinks they will get anything other than 4k60. Microsoft runs around touting up to what HDMI 2.1 supports and that's completely misleading (It's what they are good at and should be ashamed of themselves) Hell, even now Valhalla isn't going to be more than 4k30 native on launch and they have had dev kits for almost a year and change. Plus, every ... single.... person out there (Save people that know what they are talking about) will never be able to achieve those results unless they refresh all their touch points in hardware to support HDMI 2.1. From TV, Receiver (If they route through it) cabling, and that in of itself will be a 3-4k refresh. I wish people knew th eins and outs better on this like we do to call BS on all this marketing rubbish.

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@Utnayan: Valhalla is using raytracing duuh dill, and higher settings baseline.

Of cause Xbox can run at 4k at 120fps just tweek a few things, geez I'll definitely not take your advice.

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@Crazy_sahara: "xbox one x" and "xbox series x" ... seeing the names next to each other puts words to a feeling i have. I wish i could buy American, but absolutely everything about xbox is built on such bad taste.

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@nilsdoen: I shouldn't...but, bad taste?

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@sealionact: i think everything xbox does is ugly. i was referring to the names here. xbox one x and xbox series x are so stupid names that it baffles me.

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It's a power play. Sony doesn't have to release information first, they have 100 million PS4's sold. They can continue to make people wait, they are in the position to do so because they have a massive install base.

Xbox is playing it right for their part as well. They are the ones who need to come out and say 'Hey, you need to buy an Xbox Series X!' and they are really running hard with it. They've got the name, the design, the specs and games that can be expected. They are doing what they can to show what they are bringing to the table. Whether you like what they've shown or not is besides they point, they are playing the game right.

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@thelostscribe: They aren't playing their cards right in marketing that's for dang sure. All MS is doing is going around touting HDMI 2.1 specs as the capability of the console for 1. 2) I would bet 98% of the world doesn't have HDMI 2.1 devices to even support that. 3. Without demand developers aren't going to produce for it. 4. They come out with a completely lack luster "Gameplay" segment in 20/20 that did nothing but show in game cut scenes.

Yeah. Good start MS.

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@Utnayan: It's easy to focus on the negatives of course. However Microsoft got the jump on revealing what the console looked like, name, specs and all that. They are showing things before Sony, which is what they need to do. You can gripe on whether or not you like what they've shown, but the fact is they are staying in the news cycle, they are getting their product out there.

They are generating buzz, that's the right moves. Can't please everyone.

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@thelostscribe: I totally get that - but they should be staying in the news in the right ways. If they are showcasing gameplay, showcase gameplay otherwise state so. And instead of touting HDMI 2.1 and being completely misleading, they should be honest with their customer base on all the pitfalls of HDMI 2.0 > HDMI 2.1. It's better to generate honest info and hype along WITH that honest information than it is to tout random numbers they have no hope of ever seeing come to fruition until all the other technologies needed to support it catch up (And that won't be another at least another 3-5 years)

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@Utnayan: I've been following quite a bit of articles, besides the ones on here, funny thing is I hadn't heard of HDMI 2.1 until you mentioned it in some of your other comments, as a matter of fact I've see you talk about it way more then Microsoft, I think you're doing better at advertising it for them. At any rate when you search for it, there are barely any articles about it, just because Microsoft confirmed it, d loesn't mean they're trying to advertise the crap out of it, as if that's what is going to make their console better.

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@thelostscribe: this i agree w

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