There May Be No Consoles in the Future, EA Exec Says

"If you and I want to play Battlefield 12 against each other, we'll just jump into a game via whatever monitor we happen to have in our homes."

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Consoles, as they are traditionally known, may be going the way of the Dodo bird. That's according to Electronic Arts Chief Competition Officer Peter Moore, who said in a new interview that the rise of streaming may signal an end to consoles as we know them.

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"I'm not sure there will be consoles, as we know them anymore," Moore told The Daily Orange. "Games will be accessed by streaming technology, so we don't need hardware intermediaries in between the two."

He added: "If you and I want to play Battlefield 12 against each other, we'll just jump into a game via whatever monitor we happen to have in our homes. It'll be on a chip, rather than in a box."

The Daily Orange reported the Moore said the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are "well set up to advance as technology does." This point is particularly interesting, given that rumors have suggested that Sony or Microsoft, or both, might be planning to release incremental updates to their latest consoles.

Bear in mind that what Moore is talking about sounds like its something of a far-future prediction. He is not alone, however, in believing that consoles as we know them won't be around forever.

In 2013, Tekken boss Katsuhiro Harada offered this take, "When there's the PS5, it will probably be just a controller and a monitor. Then, the thing that will be left is the name of the service."

More recently, gaming veteran Lorne Lanning said that PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida told him that Sony itself was unsure if there would ever be a PlayStation 5.

Sony is rumored to be working on a new, more powerful version of the PS4 codenamed Neo. For its part, Microsoft has said Xbox fans should not expect an Xbox One and a half. A recent report claimed Microsoft might announce a new Xbox device at E3, though it remains to be seen what this will be.

What role do you think consoles will play in gaming's future? Let us know in the comments below!

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ps4 has vr

If it does sell then Sony will wanna continue

As vr headsets get better then there has to be a ps5 , or just consoles exclusive to run vr and nothing else in some respects

Otherwise they would haave to open it up to pc and other devices ........ will they do that ? Ps now goes as far as Samsung TV , no pc app

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The only real reason consoles would die out is when Gabe Newell finally takes over the world!!!

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Some EA exec also said dungeon keeper mobile failed because EA inovated too much and the gamers were not ready for that.

Laughable statements are laughable.

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"...It'll be on a chip, rather than in a box...." Soooo what are current consoles? A chip....Inside a box....

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Peter, with any luck, human garbage like you won't be around in the industry long enough to make something like this happen. Your dream of digital fascism is just that, a fantasy.

It's past time for you to go.

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Nope, just nope

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This is the Chief Cooking Officer of EA. LOL I swear who hires these people?

A bunch of 12 year olds on gamespot have unanimously debunked his theory in about 2 secs.

What do you expect from a guy who spends half his life on a Yacht drinking vintage wine and sleeping with hookers. The intellect on these Corporate Execs is simply astounding. Making a prediction that's light years away, might as well say that the PS5 will be an Android who looks like Priss from Bladerunner and can clean your laundry for you.

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I'm having a hard time most areas will have the right infrastructure to accommodate such. It's rare for people to have great bandwith now but if they want to go with streaming itd have to be 3-4x the best bandwith now and extremely steady. Maybe in 10-20 years but meh seems really far off. Americas infrastructure is crap

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Yeah because we all have friends and relatives who are obsessed with GaiKai.

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Are they going to pay to upgrade everyone's internet?

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"This is the last generation of consoles" statement have been around since the era of the N64. Honenstly, as long as devs can't make all their games run at least at constant 60 FPS, this ain't happening.

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@heqteur: Can you imagine if it had just been the N64 and that was it? LOL

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@petey_olivarez: yeah. Back then they said reaching the point of 3D technology was the end for console. Some devs are still struggling to have working release version for launch.

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that depends, i don't see how nintendo, sony, microsoft and 3rd parties going to port their game into a single system, 3rd party might but not so sure about nintendo and sony.

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I could definitely see Sony and Microsoft (and maybe Nintendo eventually) moving away from manufacturing consoles and instead going the way of Sega and just developing games. OR, I could see them shifting to becoming SERVICES that, similar to Netflix or HBO NOW, could be run on MULTIPLE platforms but are a service you must subscribe to in order to play the exclusive games. These services would live or die by the games they provided through their service, much like how Netflix and Hulu and Amazon Video differentiate themselves by the original programming and selection they have.

So you would have the Microsoft subscription where for $X per month you get access to the Microsoft library of exclusive games (Halo, etc.). Then there's the Sony subscription where for another $X per month you get access to Sony exclusives. Lastly Nintendo would have a subscription app that streams Nintendo games for a fee. Each subscription service would have different games from the others. Perhaps all of them could play on PC or a third-party TV box like the Fire TV (beefed up with better specs or just used as a Streaming service) or to Steambox style computers hooked up to your TV (basically small form-factor PCs hooked to a TV instead of a monitor).

This way each of those companies would continue to make money but without the overhead of hardware and only needing to support software and making sure it works on the various hardware their apps are developed on. And if the games are streamed it wouldn't matter as much how powerful the hardware streaming the game is, though perhaps there could be various "graphical versions" where you could potentially choose to either A stream but potentially have lesser framerate if your connection is bad or B download the game to play locally if you're on a PC or a powerful enough device or C download the game to play locally but have the game be downscaled to meet your hardware capability (like going from 1080p to 720p).

It will be interesting to see where the future lies. Consoles are quickly becoming little more than PCs in a small form-factor and with closed operating systems and soon I think the barrier will fall completely.

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He is totally right, won't be any consoles, And also instead of toilet paper we will use clam shells to wipe our asses.

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@stoney28z: ". . . Hahaha. He doesn't know how to use the three sea-shells?!"

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...says Peter Moore, president of SEGA when the Dreamcast failed, and he decided to make his deal-with-the-devil with Microsoft.

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Talk to me when everyone is on fiber optic at 200 up/down at least...

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Chief competition officer.....that's a fair job title. I played a couple of games on the Onlive service back in the day and it worked pretty good, replace consoles though? Nah. Bring out your Chief toilet cleaner next time you need someone to make whack predictions.

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There also may not be humans in the future, says exec of alien race Wzyyyn'gjkJlo, known as the destroyers of hope and devourers of worlds.

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I just bought a gaming monitor for faster response times and this guy wants me to stream game LeL

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Enough of this nonsense Peter! No Moore!

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Didn't they say there won't be any consoles before this gen? And then they made them and they sold like hot cakes? We're far from being able to do everything cloud-based and people still want their consoles, so I think we're safe...

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Won't ever happen.

There's VERY good research on how new technologies are adopted, and one of the key points is that if one technology will completely displace another, then the new technology must do everything the old technology does, only better.

Very rarely does this actually happen. Just as an example, I've been reading rumors for the last several years that, excepting collector's editions, CDs would stop being manufactured. Hasn't happened. And the reason is that streaming is inferior to physical media in many ways. (Audio quality, portability, etc.)

Here's another example. Before TV, the most popular programming on radio were radio dramas/comedies. It wasn't music. Once TV became ubiquitous, however, radio programming shifted toward music, as the radio shifted away from the centerpiece of American entertainment into that thing we listen to in the car. Despite this, however, radio dramas were still being produced well into the 1980s. Even today, some podcasts do the same thing, although the delivery method is radically different.

Another example. The telegraph was an absolutely essential form of near real-time communication before the invention of radio and the telephone. Railroads could not operate over long distances without it. Yet the invention of the telephone couldn't kill the telegraph. It was still used as a method of written communication when regular mail was too slow. But even overnight mail didn't kill the telegraph. Ultimately it was the ubiquity of email that killed the telegraph. The last telegraph in the US was sent in 1999, 1555 years after its invention, and well over 100 years after other inventions that did similar things.

Yes, the technology is here to stream games, but there are a variety of reasons why it just won't work.

1. The infrastructure doesn't exist. There are far too many people either without broadband, or with heavily restricted broadband.
2. Internet service is not reliable. (And let's face it, most of us use a wireless connection to our TV set-top boxes, adding an additional layer of unreliability.)
3. Lack of portability. (If users cannot pick up their game and travel with it, they are not going to adopt.)
4. Too much reliance on a service. (This isn't like productivity software, where there's little to no reason to run last year's version. Older content has to remain available. Not everyone plays the latest and greatest on Day One.)
5. Even if the rest of this list can be addressed, there will always be a point where users do not have online access, but still want to game.

Over time, game streaming will certainly overcome many of these obstacles. It may even get 90% of the way there. But it will never reach 100%, which means it will never replace the traditional console arrangement.

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@ThePope2k6: Holy cow. I, like many, get a little nervous about a wall of text, but this was just so informed, on-topic, and well-written that I couldn't help but read through the whole thing. Good point, as well. Kudos!

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@ThePope2k6: Interesting read, but when modern telegraphy is concerned, don't you mean "155 years after its invention" instead of "1555 years"?

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i've downloaded Demo's from the PS store i'm not going to deny that and on the Sly cooper collection i downloaded the 3rd game that came as an extra for the Vita. but i had paid for the physical release in order to get that 3rd game. i wish they had included it with the collection as well but that would have made sense i guess. anyways, i don't mind downloading demo's cause that's how you find out if you have a shitty game or maybe a great game i have no issue with that. i also wish people would stop buying digital games and everything else. what these folks who make these don't understand even after being hacked and i've of course referring to Sony a couple years back.

is that ANYTHING can be hacked if you know what you are doing. the idea of everything being digital is a terrible idea because while yes i do download stuff for my kindle. it's books to read that i don't currently own or certain ones are so thick they are a bitch to carry. i either download it or i just buy the paperback. if the book is out of print that's different. my point is i love owning the actual medium. if you own a cd for example i have The Monkees (1967) album Headquarters and in (1998) i met Mickey Dolenz and he autographed it and my point is if i had the digtal release of that how can you have someone autograph it if you are given the chance to meet someone famous? i Met Meatloaf a year later and not only did he autograph the storyteller's album that he at the time put out in (1999) when i met him but his book as well. so there's so many different reasons why i love owning it.

i have other autographs as well. i haven't met anyone who worked on a video game i love yet or i'd have them do the same to my copy of it. but like i said i don't mind that there's an option of owing it or streaming. why people think streaming is better i have no idea. Back when Toy Story 2 was being made i hear Disney nearly lost the entire film of what was than not a finished product i don't think. it was through a button that was hit by someone working there that did it. and it was only by pure luck that the film was saved. that's an example of why having digital stuff is not the right way to go. sorry for my ramble folks just when it comes to certain things it angers me that's all.

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I love all the vitriol being spread over a legitimate prediction. Nobody is saying consoles will be gone any time soon. Heck, they even give Battlefield 12 as an example. In a few decades, ISPs will be more than able to handle 4k streaming and beyond in most first world countries. I hope Gamespot archives this article so I can come back in twenty years when Tbps connections are standard just to laugh at all the people who believe that we'll still be playing games on discs inside dedicated boxes.

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@TheCobraKaiDojo: Exactly

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File this under "technology advances things!"

Once again we get some insight into the dim mind of Peter Moore. Go swindle some more children you sycophantic parasite.

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I don't agree with his prediction, but it's true, digital downloading, and digital only ownership will very soon take over physical based game sales.

GameSTOP will soon go the way of Blockbuster video, if they don't re-invent their entire platform.

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Of course Peter Moore predicts this as cutting out the middleman means more money for EA but anyone who listens to EA for future predictions is an idiot I am sure he also predicted every EA game would be a success and great too. It's gonna be along time before consoles stop being developed as numbers prove there's still a huge market for it. Keep in mind streaming would mean more control and chance for profits on business side and less consumer rights for the consumer that's doesn't sound so great for the consumer and if you look at the history with streaming of games it hasn't fared well and failed with good reason gamers and people period still want a platform to game on whether it's a console or PC and love physically owning and having control of their platforms just like with any product they buy. Just like for example there's cloud storage yet people like to or rather still physically backup to harddrive or cards because they have control of and physical ownership of it. Whether your a collector or just a consumer period nothing beats physically owning something.

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Yea... In the year 2990!!

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@lonesamurai1: LOL! Good joke!

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@lonesamurai1: Come with it a new level of getting RIPPED-OFF! Not with today's internet None of those companies want to answer this question: What happens when my internet goes down? Mind blowing! Right?!

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@lonesamurai1: steaming a competitive/casual game like CoD or League of Legends will never be possible input lag will never be reduced enough for the most played games to still be fun unless they could make streamed games have zero delay which is going to be impossible just look at netflix bumps all the time watching movies and delay while pausing doing things during a stream.

for games it just doesn't work we've already seen one company go bankrupt and sony's streaming nobody uses it consumers don't want it if they don't use it

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The company that drove numerous successful ip's into the ground is predicting the future of gaming? Whats next? Activision is gonna stop making call of duty games?

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yeah know to many people with data caps.....until that is gone they cant even get rid of the disc drive.....also out of the 7 billion people of the world only 2 billion have internet.....what are they going to do cut off most of the market??? i know things will change but i dont see this happening for at least 30 years when cell phones have the data stream PC down with 50 and 20 up....

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The simple fact that the internet is a fallible thing and in many countries not good enough to just have a dedicate service means this couldnt work, not that games nowadays are not heavily internet dependent though this sort of thinking moves out of the idea of gaming and starts to include a countries infrastructure. Its already annoying if your internet goes down and you can only play SP or games that are not server dependent, now imagine you get to play nothing at all with that paid service, would never work

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It'll be a while before it can fully replace the local processing unit. I prefer my local machine crunching the numbers, feeding a local screen, and receiving on-the-spot input and polling interactions. The very idea of total reliance on a remote processor array for game rendering, and waiting on input/visual data roundtrips to and from the remote machine and server exchanges, is rather unsavoury. A bit of game streaming alongside traditional local machine-based play, that's okay. Just not fully remote. Technologically it's not ready to be ubiquitous yet. Conceptually it may never be ready for everyone to embrace.

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@runstalker: well put variety is always preferred in my opinion.

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Complete Cloud gaming requires ubiquitous online service for all. Otherwise you lose customers. In other words, you lose entire markets that don't have stable online. i.e China, India, etc, etc, etc.

You must first have the egg before you can have an omelett.

Create an environment for ubiquitous online for all, and then talk about pulling the plug and running everythng via the cloud.

These predictions are way too far from fruition. Its like predicting flying cars, we've made the mistake of predicting that back in Bladerunner and it never happened. Human beings have a tendency of predicting scientific advances far before they are ever even close to fruition.

CCO lol, these BS corporate titles are a joke. Whats next Chief Cafeteria Officer, or Chief Mental Health Officer, Chief Dress Code Officer, Chief Moral and Ethic Officer. LOL These suits and their BS titles make me laugh. We're more likely to see flying cars then a full fledged mainstream cloud based console.

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