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The Xbox One vs. PS4 1080p debate is an unwinnable war, says Titanfall developer

Producer Drew McCoy says getting worked up over specs is silly because, "that's a war that no one actually wins."

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There's been no shortage of debate concerning the ongoing "war" between Microsoft and Sony in the battle for the living room. One argument that constantly makes the rounds is the fact that right now, more PlayStation 4 games run in 1080p than they do on Xbox One. In fact, one of the Xbox One's biggest and most important titles to date--Respawn Entertainment's multiplayer shooter Titanfall--does not run in 1080p. But the debate over respective resolutions between platforms does not interest Titanfall producer Drew McCoy.

"It's the console wars. It's Sega does what Nintendon't," McCoy told GameSpot at PAX East about why he believes the 1080p debate has gathered so much attention this year. "There's going to be games that look better on one or the other. There's going to be exclusives that look better, for whatever reason. And we never set out to engage in the tech war. I feel like that's a war that no one actually wins."

"We never set out to engage in the tech war. I feel like that's a war that no one actually wins" Titanfall producer Drew McCoy

"We consciously just decided that we're going to make a game that's fun and new and exciting and then worry about making it as good-looking as we can," he added. "And I don't think we made an ugly game, but no one in the office will tell you we made the prettiest game out there. Or [the one that] runs at the highest resolution."

Titanfall runs in the oddball native resolution of 792p, and because it's not available on PS4, there is obviously no comparison to be made there. McCoy teased that Respawn is experimenting with ways in which it can improve visual performance, but overall, he doesn't want to get wrapped up in a debate about specs. It's just not worth it, he says.

"We have more that we can do. We're looking at performance stuff on Xbox One; the PC patch added some stuff; and we're working with NVIDIA for some things on PC as well," McCoy said. "At the end of the day we don't really care. People were roasting us because we run at higher than 720p but we're not a solid locked [60fps] yet. And it's like, 'Yeah, well you know what, guess what? The GPU isn't always a thing that limits your frame rate and your performance.' So we hit the highest resolution we could without limiting the GPU."

Titanfall's first DLC expansion, Expedition, launches next month and introduces three new multiplayer maps to the game. Respawn is also planning to support Titanfall extensively with new modes and features--all of which will be entirely free.

Titanfall launched March 11 for Xbox One and PC, and came to Xbox 360 earlier this month. We'll find out how well the game sold--and how much it helped sell Xbox Ones--later today when the NPD Group releases sales information for the month of March.

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PS4 has already won it...

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I have seen Titanfalll running on both XB1 and PC on a 42" screen. Youtube video comparisons don't show much due to compression in the video but when I saw this game in person on both platforms the difference is immediate. This is in regards to the horrible aliasing on the XB1 version due to the low resolution, I won't even get started on textures, etc.

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Neither Xone or PS4 can win... Wii U wins! Best console evahh!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Sure, if you're a 12 year old.

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Or someone who enjoys a large library of high quality games.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> 3DS is king

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People that argue over which console is better are no better than hicks arguing over which is better between Chevy and Ford. Opinions, man.

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yeah resolution doesn't matter it's true, it's just amusing and pathetic that both the consoles are STILL inadequate at making most games at 1080p which should have been like bog standard for almost a decade.


for heaven sake, the LAST gen war was also about 1080p, with that stupid "HD" moniker plastered at everything. and even funnier, PC gaming in the freaking 90's was played at a top resolution of 1600x1200 on those ancient CRTs, which was higher than 1080p. resolution wars... what a farse!


in the end it comes down to two things, really good exclusives and really good support... and also, it's not either console that is going to win or lose, it's the consoles and PC vs the real threat- the rise of mobile gaming.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Excellent argument for the Wii U. Yay Nintendo!

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> what's even funnier is that the Wii U has more games at 1080p in 60fps than the other consoles.


the developers for Wii U, Nintendo chief among them realize that instead of making super richly -i can see the hair in their nostrils" level of detail, they would make simple objects with a clear art style, thus making 1080p in 60fps a non issue.

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OMG how is this still a debate??? PS4 won when the hardware was announced, grow a life.

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so all the sony fans talk about graphics, if the ps4 is so powerful then why is it that the order 1886 running at 800-900p with cinema boxes? bottom line is that both systems are not as powerful as we think, yes the ps4 has more power but that has not been shown yet. all we have seen so far is some extra textures and more particle effects. nothing truly next gen has come about on either system. people say that xbox cant run 1080p 60fps but wolfenstien is coming and it hits it on both and its not on last gen. all the games shown so far are running on old game engines accept for ryse. the combat is kind of crap but nobody can deny that it is beautiful. I like ps very much and I like xbox. both have pros and cons. we haven't seen nothing yet, so we don't know what is in store. all this is part of the strategy to make us waste time while devs come up with games. we all being played.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The new Wolfenstien can run at 1080p on the XB1 because the graphics are garbage... If the developers would have optimized the graphics then it wouldnt be reaching that resolution on XB1... The XB1 didnt magically become more powerful over night, come back to reality.

1080p doesn't really count for much when so much had to be cut out, or was just never there in the first place in order to get that resolution. Who cares if its 1080p if it looks like a goddamn Wii U game.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Source on those "800-900" claims? Oh you you don't have one.... lmao

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They would say that wouldn't they? Titanfall's sales are directly tied to XBox's fortunes.

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According to the NPD sales figures, the PS4 won.

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And many years from now, I'm sure my great-grandkids will yawn at anything below 16k resolution. Bless their uploaded souls...

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<< LINK REMOVED >> haha so true. hell by that time we'll be able to play these "retro" games done in 1080p without risk of seizures as we play them in nursing homes. XD

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That same fun game could have been made for last gen consoles, and in fact it was. You obviously did not need an Xbox One to make your game.

I read in an article around the time of launch (maybe earlier), in which someone from Respawn (or MS) said that it wasn't made for the PS4, because their vision could only be fulfilled with the XB1. yet it saw a PC and 360 release. Okay so that was probably just marketing talk--but so is this article!

The whole point of buying a next-gen console is to enjoy the improvements over the previous gen console. And yes, that includes resolution. If it can only just barely do better, then that's not much of an improvement.

I would much rather play a smoother game in Full-HD than what's been on offer recently. Sure, some games won't offer Full-HD and 60fps, but it seems to be a goal that only the One can't reach (repeatedly), not even for its exclusives.

If I can't run a PC game on Ultra, I'll downscale shadow, textures, lighting, just so it stays at 1920x1080 and runs smooth.

That $100 price difference has still to convince me it's required, because I still feel the XB1 should be cheaper than the PS4. In comparison, the PS4 is a bargain, for that extra $100 (if one were considering a purchase between the two) could go into buying a 1TB SSHD for a quick and worthy Hard Drive upgrade for your PS4.

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It's nice that they can be happy with their end product, but when you may be running games for the next 10 years on a platform you choose today, the ability for one to run at consistently higher resolutions may be worth thinking about. All the Wii U and Xbox One devs seems to agree that hardware performance doesn't matter.

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lol who buys Titanfall on Xbox One when you can play it on PC with a mouse? You gotta be nuts.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Apparently millions of people.

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pc wins...end of debate...live with it...

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You guys don't even have GTA 5, shows how much Rockstar gives a damn about PC. Give it up, PC gaming is washed up.

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<< LINK REMOVED >>Because the entire gaming industry begins and ends with GTA 5, right?

You know what I find scary? That some PC games have more people online at any given time on their own than the entire library of XBox games do, and yet people somehow think PC gaming is dying.

Just how stupid are you people?!

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"That some PC games have more people online at any given time on their own than the entire library of XBox games do, and yet people somehow think PC gaming is dying."

This. So much this.

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Oh and I played gta v on ps3, it was shit

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I bet if it was only a PC game you wouldn't be calling it shit.

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Washed up? Consoles get the washed out game that us pc gamers enjoy at 1440p or 4k whilst you gimps are playing already gimped games at resolutions lower than 1080p with a frame rate less than 60. It is very pathetic seen as most of the games run very easy on pc. Obviously you are jelous and sad. Just think,the best the game could possibly be is played on the pc, you have to settle with the best the console can do. Next gen? My arse

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Rofl PC gaming is alive an well, PC gamers just have higher standard then the console people there genernal the ones that say it dont mater res cause then need to defend there purchuse.

but you people can enjoy there sub 1080p with less detail and more jaggies. and worse performance. while PC people been enjoying 1080p and higher for more the 6+ years. once you go 1080p + you will never want to see anything 720p gaming wise.

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There are 250 million people developing content (ie: mods & maps) for various PC games.

Sounds irrelevant to me.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> PC gaming is pretty irrelevant, really. It's a niche market and everyone (except PC gamers) seems to know this.

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Far from jealous. I couldn't give two shits about frame rates & resolution when PS4/Wii U will have some of the best exclusive you could wrap your head around. Why would I invest all my $$$ into building a "powerful" PC, when The PS4 is just as good?

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PC will NEVER win... end of debate...live with that.

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As far as I'm concerned there are only 2 winners in this war, the devs and Us. They make the money the moment any consoles sells since most just make their games multiplatform, as Us because well we can have either console and for the most part enjoy almost every game available, of course there will always be limits life for example say you decided on only one meaning you can't play the competitors exclusives, something that hurts PC games most than others since the fact is PC is mostly either indies or games like WoW and LoL that mostly dominate but it's action/adventure list isn't that wide, but to each his own, unless you pull out the big bucks you have to settle with what you feel you will get the most fun out of, but as long as you have at least one you are already on your way to be a winner.

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At the moment I am less concerned about this debate and more about the games.


Where the **** are they?

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Titanfall is not as great as they say it is. Call of Duty with Mechs la,la,la. Xbox One is a bad console and they know it. When they fired back at Sony saying they have 5 million shipped I laughed my ass off. I bet they are just above 4 million and that came from their Xbox fanboys. Sales have slowed so much that they already have price drops just a few months after launch. Now they are feeling the wrath os the gamers they tried to screw at last years E3. PS4 is my choice this time around and the Wii U skipping Microsoft this gen. All those exclusives are about jump ship to Sony just watch!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I 100% agree with you and no company has completely ever utterly disgusted me with a reveal like Microsoft did with the XO.

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Why is he deciding if we want full 1080p game or not? We paid money for that game and console and we obviously like 1080p more than 792p or whatever. 1080p is came out decade ago and they still couldn't make it default resolution. I know its hard to make games but still 1080p used in last gen for some games. If they can't make it possible at least we want to decide if that debate is worthy enough or not.

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titanbot, just a template to try and herd and fleece the new wave of "juicey cod kiddies whith their parents credit card" the last wave have kind of grown up and realize what a pathetic game, system and online experience it all is.



BUT THE CLOUD!?!?


and if it all sells enough prepare for titanfail 2, then 3 then 4, the reach, then ghosts, then etc etc, forget about quality, just keep pumping them out reskinned re packaged, all those kiddies will gobble it up, all about profit margins year in year out, thats their way of measuring success, nothing to do with the actual game or system or online performance etc, so pathetic, that whats so obvious if you've been on the 360 for the last 10years.


And please dont be under any illusion that titanfall is going to look or play better next year, this is it, next year its basically going to be new box art and some re skinned guns and some maps, sorry to burst ur bubbles.


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Funny how this time around when multi-platform games run better on the PS4 M$ and their bribed partners want make it out like it's not a big deal. If it were the other way around M$ would be bragging like they did last generation when allot of multi-platform games ran better on the xbox 360...

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Well I agree the big argument shouldn't be about running in 1080p.

First off, competition is good. Competition keeps them both pushing to improve, and offering us options.

I personally find it difficult to give MS money when they were going to implement some of the most draconian measures with the XBox One. Again competition gives me the opportunity for choice, so I guess I'm glad they're around, also. I think if either one didn't have competition they would choose crazy, draconian options.

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It's already won. Open your mouth and tell MS to shove more money into it. Silly TitanBot dev. Keep your sequels to your garbage bot fest off of PS4, too.

Yo dawg, my K/d in TitanBot is sick, yo! Moppin up dem bots!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> titanbot, just a template to try and herd and fleece the new wave of "juicey cod kiddies whith their parents credit card" the last wave have kind of grown up and realize what a pathetic game, system and online experience it all is.



BUT THE CLOUD!?!?


and if it all sells enough prepare for titanfail 2, then 3 then 4, the reach, then ghosts, then etc etc, forget about quality, just keep pumping them out reskinned re packaged, all those kiddies will gobble it up, all about profit margins year in year out, thats their way of measuring success, nothing to do with the actual game or system or online performance etc, so pathetic, that whats so obvious if you've been on the 360 for the last 10years.


And please dont be under any illusion that titanfall is going to look or play better next year, this is it, next year its basically going to be new box art and some re skinned guns and some maps, sorry to burst ur bubbles.


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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>I could care less if Titanfall ever comes to PS4 honestly, give me Battlefront 3 and forget about every other shooter coming in the future because they just won't match it.

I will admit I got pulled into the hype when I saw the reveal at E3 but seeing how things have turned out it pretty much is COD with a jetpack and mechs when it's all said and done.

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