The Division Doesn't Include Brooklyn at Launch

It hasn't been ruled out for DLC, however.

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Although previous videos for The Division showcased sections of Brooklyn, the ambitious shooter will not include the borough, at least not at launch. Instead, Ubisoft is focusing exclusively on Midtown Manhattan for the game's release--and as it turns out, there is a story-based reason behind this decision.

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"For Tom Clancy's The Division we are going with Midtown Manhattan," creative director Magnus Jansen told The Examiner. "It is because of the 1-to-1 recreation and the way the pandemic has [happened]. Basically, everything has been hit and there are no more resources because everyone tried to get out. There is no more gasoline in the cars, there is no traffic, you're on foot."

Jansen went on to say that Midtown Manhattan itself will offer a "huge open world" and it should make up "more than enough to sink your teeth into." Jansen added that players can look forward to a deep level of detail and density in the main Midtown Manhattan map.

DLC will be available for The Division. It's possible that Brookyln--as well as other boroughs like Queens, The Bronx, and Staten Island--could be added post-launch. This is not confirmed, however.

The Division's closed beta begins January 28 on Xbox One for people who preordered the game. PS4 and PC players can jump in January 29; the pre-release play period ends on January 31 for all platforms.

After multiple delays, The Division's full release is now scheduled for March 8 across Xbox One, PS4, and PC. For lots more on The Division, check out GameSpot's roundup of everything we learned about the game this week--and it was a lot.

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A slight bummer, but doesn't affect whether I'll be getting the game or not (still most likely will). Hopefully they don't charge for Brooklyn as DLC though.

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@battlestreak: Until you find out it is the start of the game and they had us all fooled.

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When a normal adult hears a game will have DLC:

"Awesome! That means if I really like the game I can get more out of it without having to wait for a sequel! "

When an entitled brat hears about DLC:

"OMG I can't believe it! The executives are now trying to make money off of this game! They cut the game up just to steal from us! I already own this game and now I'm going to sue for them stealing the DLC that already belongs to me!"

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@rlg5150: Totally, completely, 110% agree.

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@rlg5150: hows your ring hole going, sounds pretty stretched after @stickycaulk got his hands on it, but it was already loosened up by direct debit DLC, season pass, microtransacitions, subscriptions and packs. Keep up the good work, dont change, believe me when i say that :) :) :)

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@rlg5150:Totally Correct !! Played the Alpha and was impressed, I don't mind DLC at all, released periodically it helps to keep the Game Interesting, But then we are not entitled Brats so I guess its easy for us to say that ??

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@rlg5150: .. that's not being an entitled brat, that's wanting a complete product rather than purchasing a $64 shell and paying $30+ dollars for in game content that could have been included in the game.

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@jamelrowland: Oh, really? So you've played the game and you know that's it's a "shell?" You must have a boyfriend on the inside to get the unreleased game that early.

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@rlg5150: naw, your mom told me yesterday while giving hand jobs out to the promotion team. grow up.

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The bigger problem is how long can people stand to be in NY city? A good number of people think this is just a 3rd person shooter where you die in 1-7 bullets. See a few maps are okay in a standard fps/tps like rainbow six siege or older game like socom (sorry only tps i can think of, don't know how many maps are in Gears of war) but in a game that is based around grinding gear its already bad you are dealing with a game based on reality (basically will be fighting humans with different clothes on) but now you are fighting in a 1:1 NYC. What are they going to do mix it up by letting you fight in the sewers and inside of a museum?

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Once I was young and dumb and eager to sell things. My teacher told me if you train your customers like dogs they will know no better and you will be able to sell anything.

Basically same story with destiny and alike. Serve any shit you want but make sure serving is done right - marketing, sales techniques etc.

Last part dogs/kids/americans you get my flow = and boon we are in business

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@johnymoskwich: People don't play games that they don't enjoy. But I'm glad you've got it all figured out, racist prick.

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@rlg5150: sure they do, especially if there is nothing else to play and all their friends play it or if they are achievement whores lol.

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@rlg5150: I don't think he is racist .. Just a moron .. Best to Ignore him!!

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I thought Destiny was a fail! Why they making another one?!?!

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@johnymoskwich: You thought a Game that sold that many copies and made that much money was a fail ?

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Do I smell on-disc DLC? I think so.

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@sepsis216: Nothing wrong with DLC when used correctly .. Can help to keep a Game Current by providing more content over time .. keep things interesting !!

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@ltjohnnyrico: isn't DLC stuff that's suppose to be in the game at start?

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@noomiep: So if A year after a Game is released the DEV wants to add come content to keep it interesting .. It should have been in there from the start ? ... Even though they haven't made it yet? Sense Much ??

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@ltjohnnyrico: Wasnt the Destiny DLC already pre-made and locked away for a DLC release to make more money

same with Street Fighter People have found that characters were already in the game the Creators just locked em away to make people buy more

I understand if a company needs money but when they do not it is just petty and causes gamers to go sell their copies

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@ltjohnnyrico: plenty of sense, when the DLC is announced with trailers and screenshots before the game is even released. Sense much?

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@hotwog21: That Only applies to DLC already announced though doesn't it ? My point was if after a year the Dev wants to introduce New content to keep a Game current why shouldn't they ? so you'd rather a Dev just release a Game an move on ? and not support a Game you enjoy ? .. Yeah good one Champ !! Sense Much ? For you ... I think Not !!

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Stop comparing this to Destiny, at least they didn't fire their director, scrapped tghe whole game one month before release, didn't lie to everyone in their faces about open world freedom, so far all they did was remove an area that was only shown in videos, which where clearly marked pre-production and therefore not part of the final content. If anything tyhey are keeping it as close to the product they promised as possible, I'm already happy about their not being a trading system, and (so far) no microtransactions. I know in the futre they might add them, but as long as it's at a point where it's just as much of an option as not getting one I'm ok (pretty much a complete oposite of Destiny, where their "cosmetic" microtransactions get you gear and leveling items). And for us who played the Alpha we know how awesome the game looks, Dark Zone does need some work but let's see how it changes during Beta, with a global imput we should see some changes during testing.

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seen this happen before.devs trying dictate what is enough for the ganer...never works out fine

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@lvsolja: It's their Game ! They should be the one's dictating what goes in it !!

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@ltjohnnyrico: dam well i guess theyre gonna lose customers then

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If you look at the image released it's a portion of midtown Manhattan. The story was tailored towards DLC, Ubi can eat balls.

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DLC baby generation of gamers, direct debit your mom and dads credit card for your microtransacions, season passes, packs and in game currency.

on behalf of us mature gamers we thank you for destroying gaming.

"AAA" titles will all be free soon and copy the free to play tablet games business model which is doing so well, once again sending our regards out to the DLC babies of the world :)

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@hotwog21: The Older Gamers understand how DLC works !! Also understand how business works !!

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@ltjohnnyrico: DLC was a horrible practice as for big business who are already wealthy it is not necessary

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@noomiep: Expansions are a good thing helps keep a game current and yes Expansions are DLC !! .. Also what Business makes money and says yeah we have enough now ?? As I said .. The Older Gamers understand such things !!

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@ltjohnnyrico: ok ok so for example star wars battle front had most of the cool content stripped away to put as DLC IMO I think its terrible, it keeps the game current for maybe a week if the game lacks content from the start and releases content little by little instead of releasing the original full game that would most likely keep gamers coming back to the game because the base of the game was just that fun and enjoy add-ons that were planned after the base game

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This game will be Destiny all over again. The players that get addicted to it's skinner box reward system will fight to the death defending the game online and spend stupid money on the DLC and inevitable micro transactions sure to be added later. They will tell you how they have spent 500+ hours doing the same exact activity over and over and it's awesome and you're stupid for thinking it's garbage. No matter how deplorable and creative these publishers get, they know they will always have an audience that will not only buy everything they charge for, but these players will also do all their marketing and PR work too! I mean, people still pretend Destiny is not a rip off built off the same addictions casinos use and some gamers out there actually buy Madden Ultimate Team card packs and Evolve DLC. Gamers are the new generation of QVC-shoppers.

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@stickycaulk: Destiny all over again? You mean the most successful FPS game on console since it's release? Weekly updates from the developers? More content than any other cooperative online shooting game out on console?

And what's the problem with that again? Oh, right. "Addictive gameplay." Somehow, a game that you want to keep playing for over a year is bad. You'd rather have a $60 8 hour corridor shooter I guess?

Guess what? People don't continue to play games they don't like. Your gambling analogy is flawed. Nobody plays Destiny to win money. They play because it's fun. If it wasn't, they wouldn't play. It's funny how you think you can determine what others find enjoyable.

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@rlg5150: it's because you have to grind to get the best content and people kept faith in the game because it was bunjie

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I knew it was only a matter of time before one of the addicts came in and did a drive by on everyone that dared to criticize his precious. Good one calling another poster a "racist" and telling another to "stay in school". Classy guy.

You act like we just dragged you into a personal intervention. You don't have to read and respond to anyone that hurts your feelings. Go do another raid to calm down. I bet this is the one! A new exotic is coming. I can feel it! I'll blow on your controller for good luck.

John Hopson. Go look him up. He has a Ph.D. in Behavioral and Brain Sciences from Duke University. He wrote an article detailing how developers can get players addicted to their games with the reward systems. And Bungie hired this guy. You want to guess what his position is? User research. We know exactly what type of user research he does. You can't deny that, although I'm sure you'll ignore it.

Yes, I would rather play a game that is shorter but actually made with artistic integrity and fun in mind. I'll enjoy Uncharted 4 and Quantum Break much more than I ever did Destiny. Uncharted will have multiplayer and co-op without all the psychological evaluations of it's player-base to see how they can keep you playing and paying for more. Quality over quantity. Filet and Merlot is better than a large moving box full of Big Macs and Coke and a lot better for you too.

And go play Borderlands 2 and tell me Destiny has more content.

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@stickycaulk: Also, John Hopson worked as User Research for multiple Halo games, Age of Empires III and some small Indie games. I guess you didn't play any of those either since they involved "physiological evaluations" of players?

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More name calling? This conversation really is tearing you apart.

You completely side-stepped every point I made by using asymmetrical analogies, trying to turn everything I said into something else. You are saying that we should ignore the fact that Bungie has decided that the psychology of gambling is very important to game development. That has nothing to do with fun, but "pizza", or whatever, right? This is how most internet discussions go when someone has nothing of value to add. If you can't think of anything but "word salad nebulous garbage" and insults, just bow out.

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@stickycaulk: I guess it's easy to avoid the discussion when you don't seem to understand it. I addressed every flawed "point" you made. Destiny doesn't use "the psychology of gambling." I already explained to you why that is flawed. The surprise of "new" loot is gone after 30-40 hours. You're getting your "argument" from a very unscholarly GameSpot video that has been refuted as garbage (calling Destiny loot "immoral"). I also pointed out all of the other games that the Bungie User research lead worked on that you don't seem to have a problem with. What now? Tell me more about games that are bad because they are" too fun. "

But, continue on the Destiny hate bandwagon, sheep.

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Do you get payed by the hour or do you do Bungie's PR work voluntarily?

All you've done is ignored every point made and called names. You can't just call something "flawed" and drop it. You have to actually give a reason. But you can't. You know what I wrote is true and so you can not honestly give an actual counter-point.

You've gone out of your way to reply to every comment on this article that brings up Destiny. That seems to me to be a bit of a personal problem. Maybe you should look at yourself and stop lashing out at others.

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@stickycaulk: wow, thank u for sharing, @rlg5150 picked the wrong guy or girl to mess with.

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@rlg5150: im off to bed but i like how u further embarrass yourself by arguing :) :) :) keep up the good work "DLC baby"

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