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Square Enix talks 1080p for Murdered on Xbox One/PS4 and why there's no Wii U version

"We're trying to keep a consistency across all the platforms," Airtight Games says about native resolution; game is skipping Wii U because it "just doesn't fit" with developer's ambition for the game.

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During a recent interview with GameSpot, representatives for Square Enix and Airtight Games explained why Murdered: Soul Suspect is 1080p on Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and discussed the reasoning behind not releasing the upcoming action game for Nintendo's Wii U.

Explaining the decision to make both the Xbox One and PS4 versions output in 1080p, Airtight Games chief creative officer Matt Brunner said, "We're trying to keep a consistency across all the platforms." Square Enix producer Naoto Sugiyama confirmed that both versions output in native 1080p and are not upscaled to the higher resolution. Presumably, however, the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game will output in something less than 1080p.

We also quizzed Brunner about why Murdered: Soul Suspect is not coming to Wii U. According to Brunner, the best Wii U games are the ones designed from the ground up for the system.

"In all honesty, all the Wii U games I've ever played, the only good ones are the ones that are made specifically for [the Wii U]. And this just doesn't fit," Brunner said.

The Wii U also has a small install base, relative to consoles and PC. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have combined for more than 160 million sales to date, while the Xbox One and PS4 together total more than 8.3 million systems sold worldwide so far. As for the Wii U, that system has sold only 5.86 million units as of December 31.

Murdered: Soul Suspect launches this June for consoles and PC. The game is set in Salem, Massachusetts, the location of the Salem witch trials in 1692, which saw public executions of those convicted of witchcraft. The story begins with protagonist Ronan O'Connor's death at the hands of an unknown assailant. He must then interrogate the ghosts of Salem to learn more about his killer.

For more on the game, be sure to read GameSpot's just-published hands-on preview.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch

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It's funny PS4 fans were harping endlessly that Xbox one couldn't do 1080p and it was not next gen.. yet the fallowing games are 1080p on Xbox one right now:


Murder

Forza Motosport 5

Plants vs Zombies Guarden Warfare

Peggle 2

Tomb Raider Difinitive edition

Loco Cycle

Lego the Movie Video game

Lego Marvel SuperHeroes


It shows one thing that Xbox one games are getting higher resolution while PS4 games are going down in resolution... IE both Infamous, and The order run at 800p 30 frames... lower then what Titanfall will run at, and Ryse son of Rome, in fact too read the news the higher 1080p resolution on PS4 is causing problems for a lot of games COD Ghosts dips into single digits, and so dose Theif, BF4 runs at lower detail 900p compaired to higher detail 720p on Xbox one, and has more frame rate issues, on top of that the major problem I;m seeing is developers have already hit the RAW TF on the PS4s GPU and are already having to scale down their games, mean while Microsoft has upped the game and expanded what the dev kits can do and a lot of indi games, and Exclusives and third party developers are saying they can hit 1080p easier on Xbox one now then PS4... Tiled Resources and ESRAM are also coming to PC in the next few months and that will pout Sony back on it's heels because PS4 can't use ethier and are locked out of it thanks to Microsoft making it Windows 8.1 exclusive..


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<< LINK REMOVED >> this shows that xbox CAN do 1080p with less demanding games or exclusives but IT CANNOT run games at the SAME DETAIL LEVELS AT THE SAME SPEED AT THE SAME RESOLUTION HAS THE PS4 when the ps4 is being pushed hard

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Speculate all you want, but so far, it's been shown that the PS4 is just plain better. Tomb Raider was an embarrassment for the Xbone. It was blatantly better on the PS4. Were you completely blind to that backlash?

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@poster012 @GunGriffin It was a little better, but you have to remember PS4 is very easy to develop for and the dev kit has been out since Feb 2013, X1 is harder to develop for a dev kit only came out Sept 2013. Don't get me wrong the PS4 has some more juice but i think out of the two console the X1 has more improvement in it.


Also if mid way through the cycle MS can get the cloud really working and taking the load off the X1 GPU with things like physics/AI the X1 may surpass the PS4, but for right now i'm with you, i buy my multiplay games on PS4.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Sorry its not going to happen. For the "cloud" to do much of anything your player inputs need to be sent to a "server" which in turn will decode and paint an image to be sent to your console for display.


Sure, Netflix can stream 24FPS at 720P and 1080P (and its a compressed mess) and your expecting the magical "cloud" to serve up good looking game play with 60FPS at 1080P over an internet connection.


Somehow the same company that has served up countless mobile failures and the mess that is "Metro" and "WIN8" is somehow going to magically out do every MMO on the planet with single player games?


Ahh, it must be nice to be young and have foolish dreams.

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The problem with cloud and Microsofts vision of the online only future is many people like myself don't live in that world. I get only about 500kb/s on an average, usually a bit lower. The cloud seems to need at least 3mb/s to be actually useful. So either they are screwing over some people, or nobody gets it at all. Despite my bandwidth limits however, I have been playing battlefield 4 on the ps4 lag free.

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You can add to that list Fifa, NBA 2K 14 and NFS that also support 1080p on X1.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Very few games support 1080p. on xbone thanks for stating the obvious

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Sure they run 1080p but it's not because the system is as good as the PS4 but because these games use less particles, volumetric lighting, AI, hair tessellation or whatever things game makers do to create a rich and vibrant world. Sure pacman can easily run on 1080p on the Xbox One but many, many games can't. Not because the developers don't want to, not because the lie MS told you about having the power of 10 Xbox One's in the cloud works to make up for lesser hardware but because it's not possible.
Maybe, after a few years and a lot of tweaking more games will also run 1080p on the Xbox but there will always be a pay off like lower frame rate, shorter viewing distance, or other things. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Lower frame rate? Now you realize that titanfall is 60fps but the big ps4 games are only 30fps, right? those ps4 games are the order and infamous. framerate actually affects gameplay too whereas resolution does not.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> we can't even compare because Tfall doesnt have a CP

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@adambomb007 @Tielo1 @GunGriffin Killzone single player also 30fps, it's steady for the most part but i would have rathered 900p/60fps in Killzone with stronger AA.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Not true. Tomb Raider on X1 had it all, lighting, particles tessellation the whole lot. So yes it is possible on the X1 to have it all.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> True but it was a last gen game. It was build to work on consoles with just a minimum amount of memory available (and looked great). Was the game truly developed with 8gb of ram in mind there would be a problem between the 2 consoles.


What I'm trying to say is that the resolution alone doesn't make the difference. It's taking everything in account. Take a game like Thief, the modules in the world all have a higher count then the world of TR. Sure that doesn't make it a better game but it makes it next gen and the MS console is struggling with that and the Sony console isn't or are you suggesting all designers do this just because they want to?


I don't want to say yours is better or worst then mine, I don't care. If you want to play Forza or Gears of Wars, Kinect games or whatever exclusives MS got you are going to buy the Xbox One, great. And if you want to play Uncharted, The Order 1886 or whatever PS4 exclusive and you like to see better multiplatform games for less money you need to buy a PS4.

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thing is programming for the wii u they see it as waisted resources , they have to program both for the console and the controller and this takes time and money, the PS4 and Xbox1 they just have to program for the console also they are not that different from one another, but the wii u is a different underpowered beast, think about it a big studio can probably do it but they wont waist resources and the smaller studio rather spend money on the better selling consoles.

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because WII U is shit say IT
xbox 360 has better CPU the only that wii u has is 2gb of ram the 360 has 512 and still rocks solid that WII U garbage console

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<< LINK REMOVED >> actually the gpu in wiiu is way!!! better than 360 so if a game is less cpu intensive then the gpu will shine case in point compare black ops 2 with xbox run em side by side . i own a ps4 and 2 high end gaming pcs i care nothing for the WIIU but i like people to get there facts straight

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I'd recommend you doing your research in what determines a garbage console. From my personal experience, the Wii U is awesome, stop hating!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> nice technical analysis..............

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Sony folk love to hate. Both system are near equal in specs. PS4 and Xbox one are 6+ time more powerful than 360 and ps3 and I have not seen anything that I would say looks twice as good as the best game on those systems. This will be the norm with most cross platform games as the systems age.

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@Caleb1dunn thats because you dont understand how it all works. let me try and explain in a few simple sentences .

1. running at 1080p instead of say 568p (upscaled of course) will rob you of about 2-3 times the performance increase that you get from the next gen consoles.

2. if then it runs at 60 fps that means that all the pixels have to be changed twice has much so that 2-3times now doubles to 4-6 times performance needed to work.

see how we already are eating into the performance difference already (none of this is an exact science im just illustrating but one thing i do know is that double the frames and triple the amount of pixels on screen will eat up AT least 2-3 times the power minimum. In crappy compressed videos on youtube and the like very little difference can be seen with the old consoles. theres only left with 3 times the power to harness for the next gen systems also bear in mind your comparing final generation games with first generation games.


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Fanboys are irrational and love to hate. Don't put this shit all on the people that enjoy Sony products.

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I do not care about the Wii U, but his excuse for why no Wii u version is just that, a poor excuse. He's says that the reason why they aint gonna do a Wii U version is because only games made to the systems strengths are good. But seriously there is nothig stopping them from programming to its strengths. Ll these devs just wanna port, do minimal optimizing and call it a day, then on with the DLC.

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"In all honesty, all the Wii U games I've ever played, the only good ones are the ones that are made specifically for [the Wii U]. And this just doesn't fit," Brunner said.

This line made me laugh. So he basically said this game is not going to be a good game. By this logic, a game on the Wii U is not good unless it has been made for the Wii U but if they had put this game on the Wii U, it would be the same as other platforms (graphics being different but graphics don't make much of a difference for a game especially when there will not be a big difference in them) so therefore, overall, by his logic, the game is not a good game. lol. Nice one there.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> thing is programming for the wii u they see it as waisted resources , they have to program both for the console and the controller and this takes time and money, the PS4 and Xbox1 they just have to program for the console also they are not that different from one another, but the wii u is a different underpowered beast, think about it a big studio can probably do it but they wont waist resources and the smaller studio rather spend money on the better selling consoles.

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@dajeffect On better selling consoles... like the Xbox One which is selling pretty much just as bad as the Wii U??? lol The PS4 I can understand but the Xbox One is going to take over 3 years to over take the Wii U in sales right now so using better selling consoles as an excuse is pretty pathetic. And using porting being hard as an excuse is also sad as if they wanted to, they could just port it to the Wii U just as easily without much effort as the gamepad is just a controller with a screen...

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Can you please quit misspelling "wasted"?

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So what do the PS4 junkies have to say now? So both consoles are on a level playing field and now you just have less games

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Hey moron, its obvious the devs are just going for parity rather than program to each systems strengths. Everybody and their mother knows that the PS4 is superior and the X1 a piece of junk. Cant even do 900p in most of its games. Also the PS4 also has more games. Its got all the same multiplats (but look alot better), a bunch more indies and only a whle whopping 2 less exclusives than X1. So get a life troll. And p.s. get off Sony fanboys nuts

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Unc you invalidated ur opinion when you said the x1 cant do 900p in most of its games. The order and infamous which are almost ur only actual games this year dont even run close to 1080p or 60fps for that matter. How about thEm apples?!

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I have both consoles now (just got the PS4) and overall the PS4 visually has the edge, and i just mean the edge, mainly because of multiplay ports looking a little cleaner (although sometimes washed out, lower texture res ?). But honestly both consoles are struggling with performance. Killzone visuals are very nice indeed, on par with Ryse but both consoles struggle to maintain 30fps when mid prices PC's could easily chew through these games.


I know all things are relative but if your going to say the X1 is junk compared to the PS4 then both consoles are walking corpses compared to this generation of PC's. I don't actually believe this myself though, i own all and am happy. I just want you guys to know that the PS4 and X1 are one in the same minus a little polish here or there.


As for the res argument, i wish some of these PS4 games where in 900p so they could crank up the AA, 1080p with jaggies is not as good as 900p without any.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> What are you talking about, every consumer products have issues. The PS4 and X1 launches have been absolutely fantastic, they both couldn't have hoped for it to go any better.


My only issue with the PS4 is Sony have disabled Wired Mode with the controller, when you plug in the USB cable it's only charging the controller and still sending data via Bluetooth. So no lag free gaming with the DS4 and Sony have no intention of fixing it. Every console should have the ability to play lag free USB mode, plus i don't like having Bluetooth radiating my balls for hours on end.

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@fricklemcgee @juka75@UNCStriker88 Dose that excuse the screwed over OS updates? the broken disc trays because of firmware updates to the OS? the Broken HDMI ports? the faulty controller thumb pads on their thumb sticks? the overheating issues, and the poor internal mounting of the Motherboard? The fact that any sales spike brings down the infamous PSN service, that PSN UK was hacked 2 months after launch?, and that the last OS update broke PS Plus? All issues that have lit up the forums on PS for months, and gotten zero coverage thanks to Sony's co marketing that accounts for roughly 20% of their dept...

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> The Xbox One is a piece of junk? I guess we are all entitled to our opinions but it's the best console I've ever owned. From the heavy duty packaging, to the nice headset and amazingly sturdy controller, the 4K HDMI cable and Kinect all bundled together make it the perfect experience for me personally.


Xbox One actually has more games and more exclusives. Unless you try and count indie games that have been out on PC for over a year and ported PC Free-2-Play games, which is all Sony seems to release anymore.


As for the multiplatform games, we all know there's little to no difference in any of the looks, it all comes down to preference. Preference of online, Achievements, controllers, ecosystems. Thief is the perfect example of 1080p not being the most important thing, it looked best on Xbox One and played best as well. Game dropped to single digit frame rate on the PS4.


And then we look at Sony's 2014 plans, they've already cancelled Santa Monica's new IP and laid off most of those developers. Microsoft promptly hired a lot of them, as well as the laid off Irrational Games developers who were laid off. We can see clearly that Sony relies heavily on indies and old PC games, they only have 4 confirmed exclusives for 2014 and none are what I'd call a system seller. inFamous, Drive Club, MLB The Show and possibly The Order. What is compelling enough to sell that console? Sony doesn't have the money to drop on exclusives that nobody will buy like they did with the PS3.


Hope PS4 fans like those indies games and free-2-play games...


And by the way, over 200+ developers have signed up for ID@Xbox and the first batch of indie games are headed to Xbox One in March. So there goes that slight bragging right. Now we also know the new, faster SDK's are helping developers reach parity with Xbox One/PS4 games.


You might wanna do some research before posting next time kiddo.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> And would you like to list all og the xbox exclusives coming out this year? And most of the games on xbox can be played on pc.

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poor wiiu

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Please don't dumb down the graphics on the game so it will work on Xbox One. We want a real next gen experience.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> They'll be dumbed down to work on PS3/360. That's how it's 1080p/60fps on Xbone so far. Don't tell that to the bots, though.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Exactly, its being dumbed down to work on all the lesser systems, including the X1, thats how they achieve 1080p on it. Its called parity and i dont buy games i know werent design to take advantage of the system.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Possibly, but games are also being dumbed down on PS4 to achieve 1080p, hence the 30fps, lack of AA and some low res textures. I own both consoles and a high end PC, while X1 is currently struggling to hit PS4 resolutions the PS4 is struggling to maintain a solid framerate at 1080p.


The one game i have on both consoles is COD, looks cleaner on PS4, much closer to the PC version. Less jaggies but the X1 version has a much more stable frame rate and believe it or not sharper textures (i think mainly from the annoying sharpening filter built into the upscaler). Point being PS4 is not hitting 1080p with any confidence, it's just scrapping in there.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> No, I think everything is dumbed down for idiots such as yourself. You PS4 bots have transitioned so well from being mere PS3 bots ... but you sound as illiterate and uninformed as the previous generation.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Got that off Neogaf did you? load of crap that site is they even ban people who back Nintendo, or anybody whos even slightly neutral on Microsoft... So yeah live in that Sony rules the world fact free bubble because the facts are glaring right now, Sony is in deep financial trouble with 6.4 billion in dept, and last but not least bleeding 10 million a day, and has a 0% buy on their global stock.. so yeah enjoy being tied to a company that will hit bankrubsey soon and customer confidence will plummet like a rock causing sales to drop, PS4 can not save Sony Corp from 15 years in operating dept...

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I really liked the concept of this game.Kinda feels fresh and different.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Play Shadow of Destiny (aka Shadow of Memories). The plot is very similar to this game. You must solve your own murder.

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It's too bad that some developers are lowering the quality for the 2 systems to match. Which ends up hindering the more powerful console. Which in return hurts the consumer who would have purchased the more powerful alternative. I would be thrilled to buy the more "beautiful looking game" for the same price as what the other system is going for. We gamers deserve the most out of our dollar. Games are not cheap. Just because one system runs it more beautiful it should not be reflected in the overall quality of the product. The consumer always loses this way.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> As a person who owns both, all I read from your comment is "bla bla bla I don't care how the game plays, but how it looks."

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<< LINK REMOVED >> It all matters. Gameplay and the way it "looks". For me personally, I want as much to an all around game as possible. My dollar demands it. There are so many games out there grabbing for my attention. This goes both ways, a game with terrible graphics but amazing gameplay is great and all but the immersion suffers. Now give me both gameplay and graphics now we are talking. I feel us gamers deserve the best of all worlds. Especially when these suckers go for what they go for. Sorry for the misunderstanding. This is a more clear explanation on how I feel on the subject. We may have different opinions. Respectfully.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> YOU are the reason gaming is going down the pan!

People who care more about graphics than anything else.

You were talking about "quality products and beauty" yet the entire time you never even mentioned the gameplay, the story or the characters. You know the stuff that actually matters in a game.

You are the reason than 90% of all game are boring shit. It doesn't matter how many sprinkles you put on a turd it will still smell like a turd.

Crysis games are all nice and pretty but my god they are boring.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I think you are misunderstanding me. I completely agree with what you are saying with regards to gameplay. It is the whole package that counts in my opinion. Or at least as close as they can make it to a level playing ground in regards to gameplay, graphics, replayability etc. I'm saying if both have the exact same gameplay but one console does the graphics better than the other and you had both consoles let's say. Which game are you going to pick up? For which system? The one that has closer to the "whole package" I would hope.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Believe me, it is a pain for me to know that the PC does it better. The thing that keeps me coming back to the console and not opting for the PC gaming is the controller and the ease of setup. Also the fact that my friends tend to go with the consoles. Which makes it easier to lend games, play online multiplayer with them and still be able to chat while on the system. I feel at least this way if I'm getting a console for these reasons, I'm getting the most powerful system that can run the games the best. While still keeping all the great elements of coarse like gameplay, replayability etc.

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@versatilegamer @bunchanumbers If you really wanted the best version of 3rd party games wouldn't you naturally just go for the PC version? The ps4 version is already a watered down version of the PC version. Not only that you get mods and at a cheaper price and free online multiplayer.


Otherwise you are already making concessions with the console version.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> That is why it is a shame that one console be performing with better specs than the other. If this was an equal playing field for both, would we not just see the exact same game on both systems? Obviously it hasn't worked out that way. If they both had equal specs there is no room for debate on can this one do this can that one do that? etc. It would just be the exclusives and all consoles would have their special touch to that specific console. Then it would be a matter of the consumer to pick their preference based on which games interested them the most. I feel that if one system has more power associated to it, should that system not be optimized for playability. This happens on PC all the time. The hardware can affect the overall quality of the game. If I'm paying the same amount for the game that lacks the graphical edge or say that 4xAA, then yes I personally would feel disappointment. If all the consoles had equal specs, we could all make our decision making much easier. Like which controller feels best to me etc. Just purely my opinion.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> If they both do 1080p and 60 fps what are you hoping for on the ps4 version? Is the next big thing to have one have 4x AA and the other one can't? It seems like everyone is looking for the next big thing to say why their console is better and why the other one sucks. No one is ever happy these days.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> This was my thoughts exactly, They are going to make 1080 work on the weaker system however they can and then port that to the stronger system. Wtf Square... You have lost your touch. This is why having exclusive Ip's is better.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I say let the people decide. Either way, Square will be compensated for their hard work on this title. Regardless of the console they pick this game up for. Why lower the quality on a specific console? When someone may have decided not to pick this title up, knowing that they could have had the game run better on their preferred console. Kind of reverse psychology almost. If developers are going to lower their quality than I will lower mine also. Instead of their quality in the game, my quality will be in my faith in the developers.

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Finally even and fair for both versions.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Yes, but WHY is the million dollar question???

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Why do you assume it was lowered for Xbox one? Did you not hear Microsoft released new dev kits, and in it's last updateds unlocked more GPU power 8% on the system? Or do you think that was a lie? the fact that Xbox one devs are reporting they can hit 1080p now because they have better dev tools.... Why are you so sure Xbox one is paying off developers to get lower quality PS4 games on Xbox one looking the same? You have any idea how stupid you sound?

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>Just was looking at specs. The PS4 has DDR5 and the XBOX has DDR3. The PS4 also has a GPU 50 percent more powerful. This is just what I have read online comparing the 2 systems. I may have read misinformed information but I have been to many sources that state this comparison. If I am not mistaken the hardware in the systems are still hardware. Microsoft could put 8% more GPU power but that still doesn't equal the 50 percent more powerful GPU that the Sony system offers. Not sure what you mean by XBOX ONE paying off developers to lower quality? Sorry if you somehow think my comments sound stupid. Purely your opinion.

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What a load of junk this man's mouth lets out. Keep your game WiiU players are better of not touching anything from you.

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