Sony Reportedly Unsure If There Will Ever Be a PlayStation 5

@suicidesn0wman: Why the hell would any game on PS4 be ported from Xbox? The system with the smaller userbase, are you special? The salt is real with you buddy, oh so much salt. Also MS is rumored to be testing out a better Xbox One, but those are just rumors.

@suicidesn0wman: Not going to happen. Development already increases to take advantage of PS4 Hardware over the slog that is X1 with easy patches (As illustrated in the early days) It will just be another patch process. But for those that have not bought a PS4 yet, they will now most likely have 1080p60 games awaiting them over the 720p30 upscaled and input lag ridden trash the X1 outputs. The common denominator now isn't the X1. The market install base is horrid. All publishers now have shifted to develop for the PS4 since the install base is double the size, and they downpatch for the X1's horrible hardware platform or hire a 3rd party to port it down.

@suicidesn0wman: they can just get the new one if it bothers them so.

@srfilk86: You haven't checked the prices on those retro games yet have you? You might be able to get a few games pretty cheap on the DC & 64, but a lot of the good games are as much or more than the next-gen games.

@tpoppapuff: What the hell are you smoking? "People want five years"? Do you have any idea how pissed a lot of people were when the original XBOX had only four years? The GameCube barely lasted five years, and people were pissed because it was abruptly kicked to the curb due to the Wii. No one is DEMANDING a new console every five years. That's just how the cycle has been since the 90s.

And for the record, the economy had nothing to do with last generation's life cycle. NOTHING. The XBOX 360 came out in 2005, and the PS3/Wii came out a year later. The US recession hit in 2008 and lasted through 2010, yet game/console sales barely stagnated at all. In fact, PS3 sales saw a surge in 2009 and started gaining on the XBOX 360's lead. IN 2009. The same year people (like myself) were dealing with furloughs at work and fearing layoffs.

The leap in technology between consoles would be the key factor in the extended generation gaps. Compare the last seven console generations to each other and look at how different each one was. Also, take a look at the leaps in visuals and interactivity. The PS5 can't be just a machine that has EVEN BETTER GRAPHICS AND PERFORMANCE, because they're getting closer and closer to hitting that ceiling. You have to factor in new budding tech as a possibility. Will it incorporate VR? AR? How much better will internet streaming be by 2020? Why race out the door to create a new XBOX or PlayStation for 2018 when the technology won't be all that much different?

You aren't an analyst. And you don't speak for the majority of gamers. You mock Lanning about the understanding of the lower/middle class, yet you follow it up by making absurd claims like blaming the economy for the last life cycle. Gaming is a global industry... not just the US.

@lunchbox2042: Nah, after the PS4.5 we'll get the 4.5.5 next year and 4.6 the following year. 10 years from now it'll be the PS4.78.6e.

@OMGMrTea: Pachter is a hack. The guy is absolutely terrible.

@Navardo95: we did get a next gen experience in 2013. It's called people want to complain about everything.

@Navardo95: Years of saving $400 ?

@Navardo95: Neo looks approximately twice as powerful on the GPU front. Back when PS4 released this would have cost them almost twice the price to produce. Therefore it would have cost the consumer nearly twice as much, so around £700. I'm pretty sure you would have called that greedy so they cant win.

Bet you anything you like when it came to designing PS4 sony came up with the price that people could afford first then designed the system to get the most power possible for that price, which they did a good job with. I dont really see the problem as it seems Sony have told devs that the extra power can only be used to increase resolution and frame rates. Other than that it'll play the exact same games. Basically if you're not planning on getting a 4k tv anytime soon then there's no real reason to upgrade anyway.

@Navardo95: 1) I am sorry it took you "years" to save $349. 2) It isn't a money grab. They needed to have more power to support Playstation VR in the way they wanted people to experience it. It isn't a coincidence that the two products are coming out at the same time. 3) The two systems will be seamless with each other when it comes to the PS Store, PS Plus, and more importantly, online play. 4) None of the games are ever going to push 4K with those specs, so marketing it as 4K capable is false advertising and untrue. 5) The system itself has double the CU's of the original AMD GPU. CPU compute was only relevant for the PSVR. 6) There won't be any games that will only run on Neo. * Unlike * what Nintendo did with the new 3DS where unless you had one, you were not playing Xenoblade. I didn't see the uproar there, and the system was only $150 less than a console. 7) If you own the hardware or feel the need to go out and purchase an entirely new system just to have this "new" capability, who cares. But the value will be determined in just how much developers and publishers can patch their games to take advantage of the new hardware for previous titles. Even so, most every PS4 game already runs at 1080p, so you * may * see frame improvements to 1080p60 (if that). Again, the reason for the change is for playstation VR.

You need to relax. I own all systems. X1, PS4, and Wii U (Along with the handhelds) and a gaming PC. Right now the biggest rip off there was was purchasing an X1. The UI is a slog, the HDMI passthrough for TV causes input lag on games because I cannot disable any post processing like I can do with my LED Display (Game mode) and it is completely underpowered. You should be thanking yourself you didn't buy one of those since it took you years to save up $349. Which means you were saving $14.54 a month.

With that said, technology moves fast and in gaming with VR and 4K demand it is going to have to be more agile to meet those demands. These people are in business to make money, not sit on their ass and provide you with something. You don't like it? Simply don't buy it. I agree with your comments onDLC and I get extremely frustrated with the state of the gaming industry when it comes to that as well. It detracts from quality titles. For that? I just won't buy them. The less people buy, the more they will tank themselves. What we need is a coalition of gamers to boycott all titles like Destiny, or what 2K did to Mafia II. Any company that outwardly cuts content to repackage as DLC even though it is finished to lengthen a revenue stream. Bitch about that instead. Here? Sony is just trying to keep up with hardware demands in a VERY fast moving changing market.

And let's get real about it. Publishers only give a shit and dislike it because they can no longer skate by with cheap development costs post yearf 3 in a consoles life cycle. They can be just as agile.

@Navardo95: My oldest daughter is in the same boat, her PS4 is 3 months old. She is seriously annoyed. You can't really blame Sony though. It's gamers that have been screaming how much this gen sucks and how resolution and framerate are king and game play is secondary or almost an afterthought. Sony is just doing what any company would do, giving people what they asked for. It's not the first time a company has given the single digit salute to current customers in favor of attracting new ones. Apple does it every 6 months or so.

@Navardo95: this model would have been $800 back in 2013. That's why they didn't release it. Your whole post reaks of entitlement.