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Sony pulls v2.40 firmware, denies full retro-trophy support

[UPDATE] Sony says it is "working diligently to isolate the problem," shoots down reports claiming all past games will get awards; Burnout Paradise first to give trophies retroactively, Uncharted next for prize patch.

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As was announced Monday, today saw the launch of the v2.40 firmware update for the PlayStation 3. The long-awaited update--previewed by GameSpot Hardware--adds the ability to access the console's XrossMediaBar (XMB) and use select features from it in-game. (Players can also access other XMB features directly, but will have to quit gameplay.) It also came alongside a slight tweak to the PlayStation Store, which adds list views and caches images, preventing the need to load previously viewed art assets each time one visits the store.

The v2.40 update will also launch the long-awaited trophy system, the PS3's answer to Xbox 360 Achievements. Though every game for Microsoft's console bestows awards, only three already-released first-party PS3 games--PAIN, Warhawk, and Super Stardust HD--will get the feature this week in the form of patches.

Sony also announced this week that a spate of upcoming titles will sport trophies from the get-go, including LittleBigPlanet, MotorStorm Pacific Rift, NBA 09, PixelJunk Eden, Resistance 2, and SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation. Speaking with GameSpot, director of PlayStation Network Eric Lempel also said that eventually, all new releases for the PS3--both first-party and third-party--would have trophies.

However, Sony today refuted a spate of online reports claiming all past, present, and future PS3 games would one day get trophies, dashing hopes that Lair completionists would be rewarded for revisiting their efforts. As Sony previously stated, it is putting the onus onto both third-party publishers and its own internal studios as to whether they want to take the time to add trophies to games already on the market.

While Konami hasn't said whether or not it will add trophies to its multiplatinum Metal Gear Solid 4, Sony today confirmed that a pair of PS3 hits--Electronic Arts' Burnout Paradise and Sony's own Uncharted Drake's Fortune--would soon be patched with their own awards. No date for either update has yet been set, with Sony saying both will get patched "soon."

The official Web site of Burnout Paradise's developer, EA-owned Criterion Games, also revealed the patch will be the first update to retroactively award trophies automatically. "Trophies will be awarded based on your progress in your existing save game," the developer said in a statement. "When the update arrives the trophies you have earned will reflect the progress you've made in the game at that time (so you won't have to replay the game again to earn trophies)."

Speaking to GameSpot last week, Lempel indicated no PS3 games would be awarded trophies retroactively, and no other such patches have been announced. It appears that Criterion was able to include the functionality by planning ahead for trophies' inclusion. "We can reveal that this is why your Burnout Paradise save game has always been locked to your PlayStation Network id--so we could guarantee that when PlayStation Trophies arrived that your save game would reflect your progress," the developer stated.

Unfortunately, it appears as if the v2.40 update wasn't available for long. A rash of complaints on the official PlayStation message boards claim the heavily anticipated update caused many PS3s to lock up when owners attempt to load a game. The problem does not appear to be exclusive to an individual hardware model, as owners of 40GB, 60GB, and 80GB consoles have all reported problems.

Sony did not respond to GameSpot's request for comment, but apparently took action by pulling the update from the PlayStation Network. Following reports from forum-goers, GameSpot attempted to download the v2.40 to a PS3 running v2.36 firmware--only to find the update is no longer available.

[UPDATE] Thursday morning, Sony posted a note on the PlayStation Blog explaining the situation. "We have temporarily taken firmware v2.40 offline," said Sony Computer Entertainment America corporate communications director Patrick Seybold. "We've received a limited number of calls from consumers experiencing an issue with installing the system software update on their PS3. While our consumer services department has seen a low volume of calls on this topic, we are committed to providing the PS3 community with XMB access features delivered in the v2.40 update. We are working diligently to isolate the problem for those few consumers and to identify a solution before we put the firmware back up."

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@elguino3 Here is why Xbox Live is so much better. With 360, you get a headset out of the box with a unified friends list, achievements for every game, more content, private chat cross game, cross game invites, dashboard in-game, and overall a better online experience. And you get all of this from November 22, 2005! I have both systems and think they both have their ups and downs but comparing online services at the moment is ridiculous. If the service is significantly better like Live is now, the $50 a year is well worth it.

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everyone always says xbox online is sooo much better than ps3 online no one has been able to tell me why they just say it is god u guys on yur xbox are payin 70$ a year for achievment points someone please message me and give me one reason why xbox online is sooo much better please

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man i got FW 2.40 and its great on the ps3 working real good plus i think they add a dts-ma hd fix for sampling in 96/48khz decoding cause i notice to a movie i had now it shows the code in my reciver so its playing it ;oh if the problem persists better solution its System Restore save your save files into a flash drive or memory stick n thats it n 360 users please stop basing into the ps3 user intalled base shut it

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Hopefully the warhawk trophies come out soon

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Yeah wow...... I couldnt care either way, I dont play games to say I got 100%..... I play games to just play.... online or offline..... 360fanboy... pfffft.

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360 achievements are cooler not the PS3 trophys thats my opinion.

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I have never had a problem with the PS3 or a PS2 or any console actually dieing, could be luck of the draw, but I believe it comes down to transport from the shopping centre things like that, one decent drop even in box could trigger a problem to go a year later... I have 2.40 for AU 60GB Model, got it when they came out I havent had any problem with the update, I also still have it saved on my PC, 1st time Ive updated off the internet on PC(US Sony Website) glad I didnt get bricked.

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Hope everyone is enjoying there free sony on line services...lmao

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lol fanboys its great that Sony wants a optimized firmware update for there consumers. Nothing wrong with that

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Just about a year ago Microsoft admitted that the 360 has had an unacceptable hardware failure rate. Low and behold a swarm of Sony fanboys flocked to the gamespot news comments to trash the 360. Well looks like Sony had their first major tech glitch, so I'm not surprised that the 360 fanboys are here doing the same thing. But what does all this really matter? Sony with fix and sent out another patch for the firmware. Microsoft fixed their CPU heat issues with the falcon board last fall. I hope you all feel better now. Lets get on with life and try to be a little more civil.

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This has been a great week for me, first my 360 gets the RROD (just mailed it out today) and now I have locked up twice on my PS3. I am going to try a couple thing to see if I can get threw the Holidays with a system working. Mine is a 80gb. Hopefully by tomorrow Sony will have this working. Make that 3 times, my nephew just got locked up started up GTA4.

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Thats a good way to get some game sales going aint it..

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The 360 buyers have enjoyed features similar, yet better, to these for years.

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@Viron_Berserker: Everyone knows about the 360 issues, I have not had any personally. Few know about the less common, but more serious PS3 problems like: << LINK REMOVED >>

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I'm with mystery323x... the 360 has more devestating problems, but it's so much fun to play! I love both of my consoles, and wouldn't give up either, technical problems aside. There are only so many really good games that come out each year, and I love those few excellent exclusives each gets... as for the cross paltformers... flip a coin. They are both great systems, and a firmware update needing a rework doesn't change that.

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I have a PS3 and XBOX 360 and to me the PS3 is a way more reliable and durable system and doesnt have any problems like the "Red Ring of Death" but I do pretty much play my PS3 and Xbox360 equally. (when my xbox 360 is working) . There both great systems tho people will always say one is better than the other cause they have nothing better to say.

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Speaking as someone who owns and likes both my 360 and PS3, when it comes to technical problems, I'll take a software issue on my PS3 over a billion dollar hardware messup on the 360 any day. Both consoles have weaknesses, and harping on them in some pathetic 3rd person fanboy orgy is just sad. Either enjoy the games, or don't buy them. It's that simple.

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As someone who has a 360 and PS3, I can safely say this, the PS3 has had less problems over-all and the 360 has had many other failures that bother me relentlessly. However, they are both equal on the gameplay field, but that is the only spot where they are equal. And Xbox's well planned online service was awesome when it first came out. But now, it seems to have s**t all over itself.

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"Ps3Orez: ...we'll just have to have faith in Sony..." Faith is something you put in family, friends, or God, not any corporation. Remarks like this made towards a company that has done so much wrong this generation, while charging heavily, are deeply disturbing.

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Why is it that Sony always seems to have issues, bugs and problems when it comes to software. It almost seems like they don't know what they;re doing while Microsoft usually has smooth version updates with far less bugs and issues. I guess that's the difference between a hardware company VS a software company. Regardless, I got my 2.4 update and my PS3 seems to be running OK *crosses fingers*

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Wow, is that Sony is trying to copy the 360 much that now they're trying to brick units? Why not copy he 360's line-up of great games. Great job at letting PS3 owners down again...and again...and again. Why did I bother with a PS3?

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I get my PS3 back on Saturday, i hope the new update will be available by then...we'll just have to have faith in Sony

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mine works fine and i have 3 trophies form super star dust.

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LMAO stupid sony achievements are for xbox360.

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PS3 failstation? free online free downloads on most things. no truing in your PS3 after 3 months of playing it and now a new update that has bug to need to be fix and then put back online. oh yeah for sure a PS3 is a failstation. just for one mess up on a update, so that means the PS3 sucks? uhh.. 360 HD DVD is no more pay 19 for 3 months or 50 for a year most of the things u have to use points to get things. and u have to turn in ur 360 after 3 months of playing oh yeah . 360 sounds like its way better then the PS3 for sure

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What I dont get is why there are so many people with white hair. What the heck. I mean, yeah, the PS3, uh 360. Wii.

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YOU KNOW,THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT THESE TROHIES ON ALONG TIME AGO.CUZ NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COPYING XBOX360 WHICH BY THE WAY IS BETTER THAN PS3

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deathscythe22 Man PS3 is really sucking right now! And No I'm not a 360 or Wii fanboy because i have all 3. I have been waiting for something to make me play my PS3. I got MGS4. i was waiting for it. Beat it in 3 or 4 days and now im bored again. Looking forward for FFXIII, IF IT EVER COMES OUT!! Maybe you shouldn't have played through MGS so quickly?? just a thought.

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Can somebody please please please write to me in my inbox explaining why people even give a rats as$ about acheivements. Playing a game you don't even like just to boost your score seems kinda dumb to me. Am I the ONLY one that thinks that a gamerscore is just some kind of imaginary pissing contest?? If you like it, then kudos, but plz write to me explaining exactly why you like it? I'm honestly curious and not trying to be sarcastic or rude here so plz don't negative my comments ???

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VladTheImpaler How dumb do they think people are? They would not have pulled the update for "A limited number of calls." They pulled it becuase the got a lot of calls. Uhm, they wanted to contain the problem so it wouldnt' spread and BE a problem for a large number of people.

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The big difference and I mean BIG is that this was a firmware update problem, not a hardware issue thus easily solved. Unlike Microsoft who had to set aside a billion dollars to pay for the RRODed systems.

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I also downloaded the update the day it was out. Luckily, nothing bad has happened yet, although the lack of private chat still sucks.

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What do we do if we already downloaded it? Not play anything until 2.41?

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I'm also glad I didn't get the upgrade. Oh well, once Sony gets this thing fixed it will be sweet. I can't wait to start collecting trophies.

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lol glad i didnt get the update it really would have been a useless blu-ray paper weight then... they clearly have monkeys doing the tech work at sony..

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they said pain and warhawk would have trophies but i can only get trophies 4 stardust whats up

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So still no in-game private chat? sigh

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@hovanPS3 it is fixed the update is back online.

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Ok I've had about enough of all the idiotic comments about how Sony has messed up big time or whatever jargon the lemmings of the world spout out to get attention. First of all I'm sure a grand majority of you users aren't developers or coders of any sort so please stop saying they should have it right the first time when there's no way in hell that they could have product tested millions of units so on that end please think before you speak. On the in-game music quarrel who the hell cares, I in my opinion I find it insulting to the composers and developers of games that people would rather listen to Lil Wayne or whatever crap they have then listen to the hard work that's put into music for the game it self. Mind you I'm a fan of both systems if there is anything i can say about either is MS needs to learn how to make a system because there firmware is great and on Sony's end they just need to speed up development of there games and that's it those should be the only complaints people have and YOU SHOULD HAPPY YOU EVEN HAVE A VIDEO GAME SYSTEM TO PLAY so please leave the complaints to yourself thank you.

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It will be fixed shortly... It's a software problem and not hardware (Thank GOD)! I myself downloaded the firmware the minute it came out and everything works great (60G model)!

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UPDATE: 2.40 is back up on the servers as of today. ENJOY!!!

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trophies/achievement whether PS3 or Xbox 360, what does it matter. All that really matters to competitive gamers is how well you compete in individual games; i.e Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Madden. I never look at others gamer scores or achievements. I do recognize if a dude is consistently popping heads off and raping everybody in a match. What I really wish Sony would improve on is the crummy web browser they have incorporated into their dashboard. It will only stream video from a couple of sites. The PS3 is basically a pc: cell core processor, 80 gig hd, 256 system memory, 256 video memory, DVD/blu-ray drive, heck even support mouse and keyboard. However, it has less web functionality than a freakin' iphone! you can't open 2 pages without a memory shortage error. I can't even go to redtube and stream video. Sony shouldn't incorporate features if they aren't going to completely support them.

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There's an update? damn, I haven't touched my PS3 in weeks.

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SalarianChemist-- Sony never said that all Ps3 games would have trophy supprt. They said that eventually all future games would have trophy support. They said that old games would only have suport if the developers created the patch themselves. Sony can't be held accountable for the developers decisions not to have support

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