Scalebound Originally Had Dinosaurs, Not Dragons

The game was one of Platinum's first ideas after the company originally formed.

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Scalebound director Hideki Kamiya has revealed that the idea for the game has been percolating at Platinum Games since the developer's earliest days. The concept for game--"large-scale" encounters--remained the same over the years, but an earlier version had dinosaurs, not the dragons we know today.

"After I left Capcom and we established Platinum Games, the kernel of the Scalebound idea was actually one of the first concept pitches," Kamiya told Metro. "The other one was Bayonetta, and we had a few others. For one reason or another we went with Bayonetta first, but at that point it was not even dragons; it was dinosaurs."

"But the common theme here is that I wanted to realize this game in the way that these two large-scale creatures were going at each other," he added. "And how can we make this work where you are not just the observer of what's taking place but helping as well."

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That was the original concept for what would become Scalebound, but Kamiya admitted that "it needed more work." The game was put back on the shelf as Platinum worked on Bayonetta, after which the studio turned its attention back to the game and made a major creature change.

"So at that time we actually managed to pull together a prototype, and when we decided to make a prototype I switched over the subject matter from dinosaurs to dragons," he said.

Kamiya and his team put together a new prototype, this one featuring dragons, but the project never got off the ground because Platinum didn't find a publishing partner.

"So again, it went back into the closet," he said.

With Scalebound stalled again, Platinum shifted its focus to The Wonderful 101 for Wii U. After that game shipped, Platinum put together a "refined" version of the concept for Scalebound and pitched it to Microsoft.

"Fortunately, they were very interested, and they wanted to know more about it," Kamiya explained.

Scalebound launches in 2016 exclusively for Xbox One. At Gamescom earlier this month, Platinum confirmed that the game will have four-player co-op.

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This game looks so bland. Guaranteed bargain bin in six weeks from launch.

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@edwardnygma: Another game you hate on Xbox. :)

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@edwardnygma: Scalebound looks good and you know it. Yall Sony fan tards don't sleep do you lmao

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@kentray1985: I'm an Xbox owner and i was disappointed with what was shown. Different people have different tastes. Why don't Xbox fan tards understand that?

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@northArrow: yeah, me too. but i'm still hopeful.

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@kentray1985: First off I own an Xbox One. Secondly I think the fact that you use "fan tards" pretty much kills any argument you would have.

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@edwardnygma: You mean an Xbox 360. :)

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@edwardnygma: I don't think that's the issue. It should have been on the other console or went multiplatform. This type of game don't sale well on Xbox consoles.

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@flyincloud1116: I think it could sell well, but that rides on MS shoulder. How much money are MS willing to pump into marketing and ads?

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@flyincloud1116: Platinum Games don't sell well anywhere so why use that against the game?

I couldn't care less if this game bombs even worse than Bayonetta 2 or Wonderful 101, it looks awesome and was easily the highlight of MS' gamescom.

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@davem1992: Correction Sir, it is the anticipated game for me on Xbox. Still doesn't change the fact that it will not do well. I hope it does, but Xbox history and plus what you mentioned is against it.

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@flyincloud1116: Why should it been on the other console?
Does the one console deserve it more then the other?

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@flyincloud1116: Awwww, you're a Pony and you mad it's not on your precious Playstation 4. Don't worry man, grab a Xbox one then you can play it. I wanted infamous second son so I got a Ps4 for Christmas and uninfortunately it was crap but I still got a Ps4 out of it.

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@kentray1985: What was that? Ask Slada the game I mostly want on the xbox, she knows.

Cat got your MFing tongue.

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@kentray1985: I never consider cloud to be a Sony fanboy to say the least and I'm friends with him on XBL/PSN but he does sometimes will bash on Sony as well.

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@davillain-: Truth is I MAKE fun of Phil and MS for mostly their wording of thinks and out right lies, but when I mention what Sony is doing I am being very critical. There is a difference, I want Sony to do better. In contrast, I never see the xbox fanboys criticize MS. They through around the word Pony all day long.

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@kentray1985: Ironically he owns a X1 but he is downplaying/bashing the console with passion

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@sladakrobot: Truth hurts. Not hate or bashing. Game will sale like poo and you know it. Great RPGs on Xbox have crashed and in the past.

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@flyincloud1116: I hope MS will do some marketing and advertising.

Unlike with D4 which went completely under but it seems that mouth to mouth propaganda(and as a GwG title) helped D4 to get 1 million downloads.
I hope that ecourages Swery to start to work on a sequel soon.
He showed some new pics at least for the possible upcoming sequel

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@sladakrobot: I don't think it takes huge numbers to make an indie profitable. A million or so for Scalebound would not be good.

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@flyincloud1116: I dont know...Platinum games was never big hitter in terms of sales.
I will do some research.
None of the Platinum games has ever jumped over 1 million copies sold on a specific console.
Bayonetta sold on the X360 800,000 and for the PS3 890,000 copies and that was the most successfull game for them.
And on top of that,at that time there was around 140 millions consoles sold(X360+PS3 combined).
So,imo,if Scalebound sells 1 million copies alone on the X1 alone(installbase 14-15 million),that could be considered as a success

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@sladakrobot: That's probably not a big issue for them since they aren't taking the big risk and publishing games themselves. Sega, SE, MS, Konami, Activision, and Nintendo have been doing the publishing on a few games from memory.

Bayonette sold over a million the PS3. Metal Gear Rising sold over 1.3 million on PS3.

We need a source for the 14 - 15 million.

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@flyincloud1116: You are right,i found an older source.

The X360 version sold 920,000 coipes and the PS3 1,200,000(where did you found 1,3 mill?)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/25465/bayonetta/

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@sladakrobot: Could have been a typo, and it's early for me. Trying to get dressed. Don't forget the 14 - 15 source too.

This may seem harsh, but this all we have officially to go by.

http://winsupersite.com/xbox-one/microsoft-finally-speaks-xbox-one-sales

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@flyincloud1116: My sources are from N4G...there are some dudes who are trying to workout the sales numbers from what they got(the last official sales numbers and the reports of raising the sales compared to the last year).
Also,the sales of the X360 after 2 years was around 12,5 millions units and when the X1 is doing better then the workedout number of 14-15 millions units sold isnt far off.

And the article you linked is from Novemebr 2014 (10 million units sold) so the 14-15 millions units(8 months later) isnt surreal.

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@edwardnygma: It's Platinum Games meaning more replay values from there games and I still love Metal Gear Rising from them. This game is a guarantee hit.

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@davillain-: I'm really starting to think that Sony has actual representives out here commenting and bashing Xbox one games. Why else would they hate on a good looking game like scalebound.

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@kentray1985: I know this is a hard concept for some people... but here goes... Not everyone shares the same taste in games. Did you understand that? or was it too much for you?

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@rolento25: Its not a hard concept at all but when you got Sony guys saying Scalebound should be a Ps4 game that sounds a little hypocritical don't you think or is that too hard for you to understand.

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@kentray1985: You truly are a moron... not one person has said that in this convo.

You do know you don't get paid for speaking well about MS unless you put XB1M13.

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@kentray1985: I'm really starting to think that MS has actual representatives out here commenting and bashing PS4 games. Why else would they hate on a good looking game like Horizon or Persona 5?

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@davem1992: Who bashes those games?
I read pretty every article and i dont remeber hatefull comments about these games.
I read Perosna 5 is niche as a worst comment and Horizon...really,i have no clue.

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@davillain-: platinum games have always been good. Vanquish was cool.

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Dino's aren't that big of a star these days, [no affiance Jurassic World, love that movie btw] and Dragons is were it's at.

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A Platinum game with 4 player co-op and dragons? Even the most diehard Sony fans have to be jealous of that!

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@rickphoenixxx: The Flyincloud666 guy is one of them jealous fan boys. Anytime you see his name he will more than likely belittle a Xbox one game especially when it looks good as scalebound. Don't know why some Sony guys actually hate on Xbox one games and then have the audacity to say it should be a Ps4 game. What a bunch of pathetic losers, smh

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@rickphoenixxx: Us Sony fans had the best dragon game years ago with Lair, so its been there done that for us...did you catch the insane amount of sarcasm there?

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@virtuasega: With having Sega in your name i just wonder that you didnt mentioned...PANZER DRAGOON :-)

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Meh, there aren't enough dinosaur games, sucks they went with something as overused as dragons.

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@Talavaj: If I want a Dinosaur game, it will be Dino Crisis, a new one from Capcom.

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@davillain-: You got my vote on that!

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@davillain-: Or the old Turok games?

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@sladakrobot: Turok games were always fun to me but Turok 2: Seeds of Evil was the best one out there. Wish MS can do a Turok Collection, just like Rare Replay.

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@davillain-: Mam you got another vote for me. You should go overthere and work for Microsoft lol

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H Y P E
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HYPE!

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@HippyTrippy: Hype with substance by the look of it. Remember the Order? Of course not.

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@kee1haul: I'm with you, can't wait to hear more about this one.

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@HippyTrippy: The only game which is going on my nerves with hyping is Destiny :-)

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@kee1haul: PS fans have selective memories.

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@adriangrey11 said:

@kee1haul: PS fans have selective memories.

Plenty of people that play The Order enjoyed it just like people enjoyed Fighter Within, Ryse, and deserted Titanfall.

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@flyincloud1116: I dont know about the last two but NOONE enjoyed The Fighter Within lol

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