Rage 2 Doesn't Use idTech, But The Just Cause Engine Instead

Bethesda's upcoming sequel will use a different game engine, it seems.


We've learned a little more about Bethesda's upcoming shooter sequel Rage 2, which is a joint development from id Software and Just Cause studio Avalanche Studios. Someone asked Avalanche boss Christofer Sundberg on Twitter what engine the game will use, and Sundberg responded by confirming it's Avalanche's internal engine that is under the hood.

This was surprising to some, given that the first Rage ran on id Software's own idTech engine. Someone else on Twitter asked Sundberg if Rage 2 would use a combination of Avalanche's engine and the next evolution of idTech, but he did not respond to this.

Avalanche's internal engine sounds very sophisticated and, in the context of Just Cause 3, it allowed for some pretty incredible open-world activities and wackiness to happen. You can watch this YouTube video to see and hear Just Cause 3 developers talk about the Avalanche engine and how it helped make the game bigger and better.

Rage 2 is being billed as a "carnival of carnage ...That's right, this is a f***ing AAAAAA game."

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Bethesda has not yet confirmed a release date for Rage 2; it simply says the game is coming in Spring 2019. The sequel is set after an asteroid kills 80% of the world's population: "Ruthless and bloodthirsty gangs roam the open roads and the tyrannical Authority seek to rule with an iron fist." You play as Walker, "the last Ranger of the wasteland and a threat to [The Authority's] power." Your character is robbed of his home and left for dead, but you must now "rage for justice and freedom."

Bethesda stated we'll see new Rage 2 gameplay at the company's E3 press conference, which is set for 6:30 PM PT / 9:30 PM ET on June 10. The company recently teased that the showcase might be its longest one ever, although beyond Rage 2, we know little else about what will be included.

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üat? nobuy! lol jk.

Id Tech 5 achieves great graphics but is hard to master. Let Avalance concentrate on what they do best: making their games fun, use an engine you know to bypass any inconveniences. (problems with barely known engine made Mass Effect Andromeda suffer)

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Fingers crossed that this will be another far cry 2 to far cry 3 style revamp. We will see.

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Sounds like the game won't continue where the first game left off with its cliffhanger ending.

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@Atzenkiller: Well, it's been almost 8 years at this point, and it's not like Rage had a legion of fans. Story wise, I imagine they'll need to treat Rage 2 like the first game in a series.

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@Mogan: In which case it wouldn't make much sense to call it Rage 2, would it?

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@Atzenkiller: Why wouldn't they though? Rage wasn't terrible, so it didn't poison that well and there's at least a little name recognition there. It looks like Rage 2 is going to be set in the same world, so they've got some lore and general art direction already good to go. A new IP has to start totally from scratch.

It's like how none of the Dragon Age games are direct story sequels to each other, but they're all set in the same world and reference events of the previous ones.

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No megatextures?

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@girlusocrazy: My thoughts exactly.

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Oh good.........

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@nibbin1191: It's like listening to someone who's really drunk trying to describe if Bulletstorm and Mad Max had a baby.

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Mad Max (2015) was a visually stunning and very well optimized game so I'm expecting RAGE 2 to look and run even better.

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@speed45823: still pissed I got robbed from my platinum trophy for mad max because of glitches. Optimized my ass.

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@speed45823: It was, but it was also very empty. JC3 wasn't empty and ran very poorly, time will tell I suppose. The one thing that worries me is the feel of the guns, as none of their previous games have nice gunplay.

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@hughesyboozy: Just Cause 3 was also made by the Avalanche B-Team in New York. Just Cause 2 and Mad Max were made by Avalanche Sweden who are the ones working on this game.

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Further proof it was retooled to be a RAGE game.

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@marsdude: I'm not really sure why you'd retool something into a Rage sequel though. Rage isn't some hot, relevant IP with a bunch of fans attached to it. In fact, the thing I'd imagine most gamers remember is all the text pop-in. Unless the original concept was just bad, I don't see what turning a game into Rage 2 gets you that a new IP couldn't.

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Oh god no.

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If the Avalanche engine is so great, then why did JC3 run and look so janky?

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@aross2004: Different teams. Mad Max and Just Cause 2 were made by Avalanche Sweden and both ran excellently (They are the ones working on Rage 2). Avalanche New York was their B Team who made Just Cause 3 and screwed it up in almost every way.

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@aross2004: Because the console ports were rushed as was the game itself. Not because of the engine.

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@mcjodice: What games have made good use of this engine?

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@aross2004: theHunter: Call of the Wild is amazingly detailed on PS4. It runs on Apex and no way the guys making it have the kind of people id software does.

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I really enjoyed mad max over just cause.

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MadMax + Doom , this look fun.

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So it won't be 4K 60FPS+ uncapped w/100-player MP, right?


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@Pyrosa: ha nice try. its sad almost know why know 4k ....