PS4's VR Headset Not as "High-End" as Rift, Palmer Luckey Says

Plus, Luckey says he gave the PlayStation VR team a demo of Rift sometime in 2012 or earlier.

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Oculus Rift creator Palmer Luckey has spoken out to say PlayStation VR "isn't quite as high-end" as the Oculus Rift, though he still described the competing device as a "good headset."

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His comments came as part of an interview with IB Times, in which the interviewer suggested that PlayStation VR is the one headset best poised to compete with Rift. Luckey partially agreed, but also pointed out that Rift and PlayStation VR are catering to different markets.

"That might be true," he said when asked if PlayStation VR was Rift's biggest competitor. "I think that there's not many people who already own a PS4 who don't own a gaming PC who are going to go out and make that roughly $1,500 all-in investment in the Rift. It really is a separate market. They're bringing virtual reality to a different group of people who I don't think were ever really a part of our market anyway."

Luckey added: "It's also worth noting that their headset isn't quite as high-end as ours--it's still, I think, a good headset--and the PlayStation 4 is not nearly as powerful as our recommended spec for a PC."

Rift requires a capable gaming PC. PlayStation VR is powered by the PS4, which is already in the homes of many millions of people around the world.

Also in the interview, Luckey reveals that he invited some Sony VR engineers to come see Rift before the device's Kickstarter campaign started in 2012. Giving Sony a peek at what Oculus was making at such an early stage was part of Luckey's drive to help VR, as a medium, finally take off in a meaningful way.

"I knew some people at Sony working on VR before I even started my Kickstarter campaign, actually, and we brought them in early on to show them what we were working on, to talk about what the minimum standards were for a good VR experience," he said. "What does it take to make something that won't make people uncomfortable and won't turn people off of virtual reality?

"That's really the most important thing, is to not poison this well for all of us in the future, and I think they understand that. They also understand the importance of content, and they've been doing a lot of work making sure there's a lot of VR games."

Just this week, Sony boss Kaz Hirai said that more than 200 developers have signed up for the PlayStation VR development program, with more than 100 games projects said to be underway.

Earlier this week, Oculus announced that the first Rift consumer model will cost $600. Sony has not announced the price point for PlayStation VR, though that information should come relatively soon, as the headset is scheduled to ship in the first half of 2016. With regards to the price, PlayStation executive Shuhei Yoshida previously said Sony's aim was to go "as low as possibly can be done."

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I'd also like to point this out... This isn't really VR, if anything it's Augmented Reality. It might be virtual reality if you're trying to reproduce the quadriplegic experience, but that's not the intention. Until the day comes when you can interact in a simulated environment utilizing all of your senses, it's not truly virtual. Not that I'm against it, I'm just stating the truth. Personally I'd love to see true virtual reality, the implications and capabilities would be just amazing. Madden, to be able to actually put yourself into the game as the quarterback, Forza, or Gran Tourismo, to actually be behind the wheel, Battlefield, to actually be IN the battle, Red Dead Redemption, to actually be in the wild west... so many possibilities... it's just endless....

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Sony is either going to strike gold or strike out with PSVR. Sony has a huge advantage with the PS4 install base but hardware limitations are going to prove to be a HUGE obstacle. If I were Sony, I would wait until the next console generation in hopes that hardware prices/power align with what consumers are willing to pay. PSVR will be underpowered but too expensive for the average gamer.

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Wow, PS4 gamers getting very upset over this....why?

He's probably right. I mean the Ps4 headset will need to be relatively cheap to have broad appeal. It will be great, no question but probably not the same quality as OR or Vive.

Then of course you have the hardware the games are running on. It's no secret pc hardware is much more powerfull and that gap will continue to expand. Chances are you will get a much better experience on a good pc. That's not saying the experience on Sony VR will be bad, those that have tested it already say it's fantastic.

I also agree they are aiming at different markets. Not many people will buy a high end PC and OR just for VR. OR is aimed mainly at those who already have the required pc hardware or those who could cheaply upgrade to meet those requirements.

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@Frozzik: He's definitely right.

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I will not invest almost $1500 for Oculus Rift and a capable PC that runs it. I already own a PS4 so my obvious best choice is PSVR. I am waiting for Sony to introduce the price.

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lol....how many PS owners have the console solely because they couldn't afford the $100 for the Kinect or, I'm feeling generous, they saw no benefit to it? Kinect is far more functional than a VR headset will be...Sony, the same idiot almost bankrupt company that lacks the ambition to be more than a gaming console.......lolololol.....as to PC gamers.....sure, there are 10 of them that have $600 and will plunk it down, but the rest of them will need a massive increase in their allowance :P Don't get me wrong, XB owners ain't buying this either.

Their target market is my dad....someone who has lots of discretionary income and wants all the new high tech stuff....and yet has no interest in gaming.....come back in 3+ years.

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@Daelusca: And by 10 he means thousands. $600 is a meaningless amount of money to people who spend $200 on keyboards that don't work any better than $5 keyboards. I myself will be buying an OR when I get my new machine and I'm definitely not rich.

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@Daelusca: I hate kinect and could careless for that shit I owned a xbox360 on release date all those year's ago I am only 25 now and I have a high end cpu and a ps4 still got my 360 tons of games loved it but kinect never cared for that garbage.

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So let me make sure I get this straight..... A competitor of playstation VR says that their VR headset is better?.... And this is news for what reason? Would it be newsworthy if someone at Ford said "Chevy isn't as good" regardless of what the reason or logic is? Let's be real for a minute here. PC specs might be higher, but the vast majority of PC owners have systems that match, or are actually lower than PS4 specs are. That's just the truth. Even a lot of gamer's systems are just on par with the PS4's specs. Sure, there are lots who have better systems, and even fewer who have very high end systems. I myself fall into the later category. The thing is, I'm not going to be spending $600 on a first gen VR headset. I think that price point is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care if I put over ten times that into the system I built, I'm not blowing my money on a peripheral that for one thing isn't even proven yet, for another thing might not get full support from developers, And for those of you who are more than ready to jump onto this bandwagon, let me share a little story for you. There was once a company named Atari, and Atari decided one year that they were going to buy the rights of an intellectual property called E.T. They then proceeded to make a game which was projected to sell millions, which it did, however they banked on selling some absurd amount. They didn't, and the result was millions of unsold copies because they over estimated the market. This is exactly why the console manufacturers always end up running short on consoles when they are first released.

But I digress... This article just cracked me up.. What did they expect the guy to say? PS VR is just as good as ours? Seriously.

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@cavethug: Alot of what you said is true but saying alot of gamer's pc are on par with ps4 is wrong very wrong bro it wouldn't be a gamer pc if the specs wore on par with ps4. I love my ps4 but my gaming pc blow's it out the water and everyone I know that has an actual gaming pc ps4 doesn't come close to touching it but who care's just enjoy the game's I hate that pc ps4 xbox fan boy shit.

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@Jd234: .........

"If it were a PC and it had PS4 specs, it wouldn't be a gaming PC."

Yet the PS4, with those specs, is somehow a gaming console? Nice logic bro. Yea no, even PC gamers with low end machines comparable to PS4 and XB1 are gamers, gaming on gaming PCs.

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@ughz: I never said they aren't gamer's don't get me wrong I said there pc aren't gaming Pc's If they are gamers on a low end pc meeting the ps4 xbox1 spec's then they are gamer's gaming on a basic pc. An actual gaming pc would be one that was built from scratch designed just for gaming or some stupid exspensive alienware. I am not saying they aren't gamer's or can't game on a standard pc I was just saying they don't have a legit gaming pc. Hence my point of it's a pc with ps4 spec's it is just a basic Pc that yes you can game on but it's not a gaming pc by any mean's.Well either way this shit doesn't matter just enjoy the game's I am just stating that when instead of calling it just a pc and instead call it a gaming pc then it isn't going to be low end ps4 spec's lol.

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@Jd234: Any PC that is used for gaming and actually has a GPU is a gaming PC.

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@ughz: Lol I doubt that alot of ppl have a gpu and can game but barely meet the min requirement's that is not a gaming Pc but w.e I am not going to argue you with you over something as trivial as gaming pc and non gaming pc. Never said dude's weren't gamers just said there Pc isn't a legit gaming pc which it isn't so you can keep thinking that any pc with a gpu is a gaming pc well I think otherwise good day sir.

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@Jd234: Your problem is you aren't a PC gamer and you don't understand PCs or PC gaming or gaming in general. There are hundreds of millions of people gaming on PC, because the definition includes people playing Farmville and junk. Yea, they aren't using "gaming PCs." Most people aren't because Gaming PC isn't a defined thing. Moreso a lot of people aren't, because they're simply using a stupid laptop with an Intel HD graphics chip. They aren't PC gamers by traditional standards, and traditional standards are all that matter in PC gaming. So in that case, the only real PC gamers are those using machines with GPUs and decent hardware.

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@ughz: I am a pc gamer tho in fact my pc is built by my own hand's from scratch designed for gaming but I still have console I enjoy all game's.:)

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@Jd234: I'm running a PC with 64 gigs of tram and two GeForce GTX TITAN cards in it, with over 8tb HD space, and a SSD to boot. I also realize that what I'm running is about 4 times that of what the average gamer is using. We can throw out specs all day, but at the end of the day, the typical PC user doesn't have access to the cloud as the PS4, or Xbone users do, and they're diligently working on ways to expand on the base capabilities of those consoles by augmenting Cloud usage to amplify their performance. In other words the base specs of the systems aren't the true barometer of their performance. While those of the typical gaming PC are. And while you might not agree with me, I still believe I'm right. There's a reason why games come out with basic requirements, and recommended requirements. Most people who game on PCs do NOT meet the recommended requirements, but instead fall somewhere in between basic, and the recommended. I know this first hand as the first decade of my PC gaming life I was running one of those systems as were every single one of my friends. As I said though we can debate this all day, I just don't honestly see the point.

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@cavethug: Yea we believe you considering how proud you are of your outdated video cards and spelling RAM wrong.

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True VR shouldn't need a headset. I'm waiting for the chip you implant in your head.. when skynet takes over

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Basically this gimmick isn't really ready for casual gamers and thus will never make it very far. I'm not going to buy a new gaming rig just to use this expensive garbage.

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Perhaps so,but it also seems the Rift isnt as "high end" as the HTC/Valve headset. Therefore it makes the Rift just "average" out of the three.

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@kadin_kai: I'll wait until someone who isn't an employee at one of the companies has tested all three and then gives acurate and honest reviews. To my knowledge that hasn't happened yet. It seems it's employees or companies just firing off salvos at one another.... And these game review websites are no different. Look at IGN, they get advertising money in bulk from any producer pumping out a AAA or AAAA game. Show me one of them which dished out big bucks in advertising, who ended up getting a review below an 8. It has never happened. Look at Call of dooty, each year it's the same drivel, no innovation, yet every year it's at the least a 9.5... while a game like battlefield which does innovate and improve, for example frostbite and destructible enviroments, which it's been doing for a decade now... never rates higher than cOd. Another example would be game informer magazine... It's owned by Gamestop, so is it ever going to give a bad review, or preview to a game which is expected to sell? Or a game which puts out big bucks in advertising? no.

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I see a lot of debate of PS4 power versus PC power to run modern games at 90 fps. The thing is, you're thinking in terms of non-VR experiences in already developed games. You need to think of VR developed experiences for specific VR games. Obviously to get to the required FPS, either some magic needs to happen or the graphics engines need to be optimized to get a certain level of visual fidelity to meet the FPS requirements, but it's still developed specifically for VR. Even PS3 games looked really good, however they didn't have the same level of texture details and anti-aliasing/resolution of PS4 games (Dragon's Dogma was great IMO), so even if the graphical fidelity of games is a little lower in order to get to the required 90 FPS, it's all about the experience. I am hopeful that games will be optimized to get the most out of VR, but it's silly to compare current games to what VR is going to be since it's a platform all its own. As graphic cards and consoles get more powerful, obviously the experience can become more photo realistic, but that's not to say there won't be impressive graphical experiences on PSVR, just don't expect a Fallout 4 open world environment with huge draw distances.

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@Gatorjosh14:

You sir, are going to be eaten alive (or would if this story were just now breaking) for being reasonable enough to suggest, that even if PSVR games don't look as good as the highest end PC games in the world, they can still look "good".

The only way to save yourself, is to edit your comment to say that PSVR's "graphics" will be a joke, and look no better than N64.

This isn't specifically directed at you, but-

Take "London Heist" for example. I've personally played it. Myself, me, in person, in real life. Did it look as good as say, the newest "Call of Duty" (I don't even keep track of the names anymore) on PS4? Nope. But, did it look as good as a game from the end of the PS3 generation? A game like, say, "The Last of Us"? Or, even better than some earlier PS4 games like "Thief"? Yup, sure did.

I'll tell you one thing, I own both a DK2, and a Gear VR, and while I've felt a little bit of "presence" before, my time with "London Heist" was the very first time I felt like I was really, truly, "there". It was the first time I'd hidden behind a virtual desk, and even being as much of a "VR veteran" as is possible at this stage, was afraid to pop my head above that desk, because I literally felt "fear". I felt that I was being shot at. I don't know that it's possible for "horrible PS2 graphics" to effect a person on such a psychological, or physiological, level.

Are people incapable of looking up videos of "London Heist", "The Kitchen" or "Eve Valkarie PSVR", then watching them and saying, "Oh, ok. I see. High end PC graphics this is not, but WOW, it's a hell of a lot better than I thought PS4 could do based on it's specs, this doesn't look like PS2 at all. They must have figured out some really cool tech for this thing."

No, they're not incapable, just unwilling it would seem.

Instead, they'd rather disregard everything that everyone who's actuality used the headset (and written about it), has to say. Rather than do the simplest Google or YouTube search, they'd much prefer to come to a comment section on the internet, and spew a bunch of total garbage on a subject that they have ABSOLUTELY ZERO knowledge on, and say things like (yup, all real things, said in this very site's comments section)-

1. "It's not physically possible for them to add an extra processor" *It's been proven that they have.*

2. "They'll never do any better than early PS2 graphics at best" *videos already show far better.*

3. "They can't get above 30FPS, it's going to make so many people sick" *Everyone who's actually used it says this isn't true*

4. "PS4 isn't capable of running VR. End of story" *It apparently is, as Sony has created a VR headset for it*

5. "PSVR IS complete garbage. Period!" *from someone who's admittedly never tried it*

What the Hell is wrong with people??

I work in "the industry" part time. No I'm not claiming to be famous, no you haven't heard of me, and no I'm not claiming to be something I'm not. I'm a freelance Writer, and a few times a month I get lucky and somebody pays me $30-$130 for an article I wrote.

The point on me telling you all of this is as follows:

I've been playing console games since I was five years old (I'm 30 now). I've always owned whatever the 2 or 3 competing consoles of the time were, on their respective launch days. No, I'm not rich, nor am I poor, I just save, and buy. Upon deciding that I'd like to try to make a go of making money working in an industry which I love, VR was just starting to potentially become a "thing". As such, I felt that in order to give myself a better chance at being successful, I'd need to invest in (at the time) a DK1, and later, a DK2, and therefore, a powerful gaming PC.

In my just under two years of modern PC gaming, I've enjoyed the experiences that I've had playing games which admittedly, showcase both better visual fidelity, as well as higher frame rates than that of their console counterparts.

What I haven't enjoyed however, is the unbelievable multitude of complete assholes I've met.

I've been lucky enough to be involved with, and write about, so many neat things in my short time on earth. From cross-country motorcycling, to travel, to outdoor adventuring, to tech reviews on flagship mobile handsets, to visiting the headquarters of, and interviewing some of the neatest minds in tech and game design. That's not to say that all of this has made me money. In fact, I've likely spent *far* more money in pursuit of a career in this industry, than I'll ever make back. That's ok though, because it's my passion.

Where am I going with all of this? Well, the unfortunate fact is that, out of all of those industries, and all of the associated folks I've met, I've never met a group of people who "know" so little, but who proclaim to "know" so much, as PC Gamers!

Please understand, I'm not intending to make a blanket statement about *all* PC Gamers (despite the fact that I pretty much did). I've met, and continue to meet, some fantastic people on various online gaming services (mostly Steam of course). However, as a whole, I've met nary a group of people with a higher percentage of hateful individuals, spitting hateful (and typically incorrect) vitriol about others as I have in PC gaming.

I was so excited when all my various parts arrived. As I assembled my PC, I was ecstatic. I just kept thinking, "YES! Now I'm one of the "big guys". The serious gamers who know what they're talking about." Yet, that enthusiasm was quickly dampened, crushed even, when just listening (not even participating) to the conversations of others on servers, message boards, forums, comments sections, Reddit etc.

Dozens of times It's made me log out, turn off my PC, and plop down on my couch on Xbox Live, or PSN, throw on my headset, and talk to -aside from the occasional 10 year old shit talker- people who actually.... just..... love..... games.

Why is that? Why do I hear console gamers online talking about the games, the secrets, the exploits, the glitches, the best hiding spots, the biggest future releases they're excited for, the games they loved 10 years ago, yet, all I hear PC Gamers talk about, is how much console gaming sucks?? Why is that?? It's really ruined what I thought was going to be a great experience.

Maybe you can't answer this. Maybe you even disagree. That's ok. This is just one gamer's observations. One gamer's opinion.

Lastly however, I do feel it relevant to note, that this recent stint of PC gaming isn't my first. As a young man, I used to dial up (yes, I mean *dial* up) my buddies, through our 56K modems, until our two machines finally connected and enabled us to play deathmatches of Doom, Redneck Rampage, and others. I also gamed on steam as a young man, back when Steam was fairly new, and "Half Life 2 deathmatch" was blowing us all away.

In both cases, it was fun! Nobody talked about how shitty consoles were, and how people who played on them were "losers". We all had, and loved, consoles. We'd sit on our PCs, and talk through our headsets all night about the best console games that we were playing, or were excited about getting. We didn't care that the graphics were worse, or that there might not have been an "online mode". We were "gamers". We loved games. We welcomed all gamers to our fold.

What happened? What changed in the interim between when I stopped PC gaming, and when I resumed? It used to be that if you played VIDEO GAMES, you were part of the same "club" as the rest of us. You understood us. You respected us. You got the same in return.

Why do PC gamers need to shit on console gamers? Why do Xbox One gamers shit on PS4 gamers, who in turn shit back on Xbox One gamers?

When did the fact that a characters hair flows more realistically on your system, than it does on someone else's system, make their system "garbage", or negate the fact that you were both wrapped up in that characters fantastic storyline, the locations you explored with that character, the experiences and memories you created "living in their shoes" so to speak?

What the HELL happened???

And why??

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@daveccarsley: I've seen the same thing where people go into PSVR (even journalists who pretend to be technically expert) with a prejudice of "PS4 is too weak to pull off VR". I wish they leave those blatantly false technical opinions to themselves. Do they not know a large number of incredibly smart people are not only trying to get PSVR just as good, but also trying to reach the masses at a lower entry point at the same time.

This is a different Engineering challenge, and IMO it's far more constrained and deserves far more praise.

In truth Palmer is just pointing to the "Recommended spec" they put out for a PC running Windows. Yes it's powerful and each component may be more powerful in comparison. But that does not directly correlate to "real world performance".

Even GPU manufacturers hope for the best and are largely guessing the real world performance until they actually put the Silicon to use with retail software.

All these guys think that the "price tag" as not being part of a product. But in real life it is.

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@lamanuwa: Yep... there were a few good looking "VR" games even back on PS3... Killzone 3 comes to mind. Of course they were not using helmet but instead depended on 3D "glasses" and 3D-capable TV... still, from content generation point of view, it was still a console that had to generate image for each eye.

Some eye-candy was lost in 3D rendition of KZ3, but it was still very good looking game. And it run off Nvidia 7800 GPU - hardly a champion of 3D graphics.

I think PS4 will do just fine with VR. Helmet is tailored to PS4 hardware, and mid-frame generator is quite smart - probably also quite necessary element to offload GPU and prevent severe loss of details in order to maintain frame rate in 3D.

I don't see anything wrong in what Palmer said. We all know that PS4 is not pinnacle of available gaming hardware out there - overdoing helmet for such hardware would be pointless. Exaggerated comparison - if you plug latest high-end GPU in P4 PC, you are not going to get stellar results - rest of the machine just cannot follow the GPU. Same applies here - putting panels capable of providing over 1080p combined resolution would be quite pointless - console itself is designed for 1080p on mind. But in return, system should be quite balanced and price should be easier on pockets than OR... and you want affordability if you want to go mainstream with this.

Much as my bet goes, PSVR will sell better than OR. We'll have more PSVR than OR users around. At least during PS4 lifetime. I do expect that hardware will be compatible with PS5 as well, but we'll have to wait for that.

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@nikon133: "the unfortunate fact is that, out of all of those industries, and all of the associated folks I've met, I've never met a group of people who "know" so little, but who proclaim to "know" so much, as PC Gamers!"

Growing up all I had were PCs. I had heard of PlayStation, but not having access to one, and having never tried a console ever, I was all over the PC ecosystem and had even decided to dedicate my career towards electronics and computing.

From within the industry, there is no such bias, at least in the hardware sector, they are all computers. In fact as far as electronics design goes, we can do much more than put together ready made parts when it comes to designing consoles.

Example: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/ps4/CXD90025G

As far as the industry is concerned, everyone that contributes is more than welcome. After a certain stage in my life I bought a PS3 and an XBox 360. I played a few games and realised what I was missing (MGS 4, Uncharted, Mass Effect 1, God of War).

The point about community, also hit me hard, because they go straight to discussing "the game" and not the platform and other abstractions like frame rate. That's like discussing the TV after watching a movie.

I see a stark contrast in the PC community today than I saw when I was a PC gamer. For instance we used to discuss, physics, FPU ect but nowadays they talk PhysX, Gsync, etc which are just marketing propaganda. For instance a guy who's buying a GTX 960 for PhysX, even if it's advertised to support it is a little deluded.

PC has become more widely adapted and is now accessible by a wider community of people (You can just watch a YouTube video, order the parts straight away and is nearly fool-proof to assemble all you need is money), and IMHO, the self proclamation of their status quo of a "Master Race" is blind sighting them to their real competition which are closed general-purpose platforms like Macs, iOS devices where you don't get to decide your CPU/GPU manufacturer.

The threshold for being a PC gamer has transformed from being a technical one, to being a monetary one. These new gamers in turn tend to exaggerate their benefits, and down play their shortcomings. But because they know so much, from reading the back of the box, they aren't open to new ideas. Their new goal is to support their investments.

I am also seeing a large preferential bias towards Intel and nVidia that is largely unfounded and the Master Race is driving this arrogance with force (undermining open technologies) and their high end parts are just out of your wallet's reach, while being just enough to claim the crown. Some industry folks are guilty of this as well. For example Oculus doesn't even mention an AMD CPU that can support their headset. The Master Race is so focused on other people's problems they can't see what's coming their way.

This may also explain the short attention span, you can't expect them to read through that much text either you need to make a YouTube video.

After all, the last time a group of people claimed to be a master race, to the general public, we had to go in with the allied army to stop it.

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@daveccarsley: you have way too much time on your hands. No way I'm reading this book you posted.

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@davidsworld3: No kidding, I mean once you get past the first few sentences you can sum up the rest with just three words "Sony Apologist Fanboy".

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Pass on first gen.

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Looking forward to the Playstation VR.....Sounds amazing to where games are going with Virtual Reality and it comes to a fact that gaming is about to change for the best we as gamers want something new and Playstation VR got me excited....

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@callofduty541: This is like over 30 years old tech just enhanced for closer to our modern gaming but it's not gonna work it's still too expensive and I cant imagine putting this on will be good for you eyes or neck.

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I don't understand the point of buying a $600 piece of hardware to play games at less than 60 FPS at 1080p. A video card upgrade for that cost will get you superior performance at 1440p in some cases. You can strap a box to your head with a flap in the front and it will look superior. This is the biggest scam in gaming since EVE, which ironically is included for free in the Oculus package.

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@Speranza318: $600 will get you 4k easily on anything but the brand newest game.

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@Speranza318: I think what they are not getting is, if you buy a high end GPU you can use it to run all existing games better. But after you spend this kind of money on the Rift, you then still need games to use it with (because games need to be developed for VR specifically).

Normally this scenario needs a different approach, where the cost of entry need to be cheap enough, in order for that new content to thrive in the first place. Smaller install base will yield less developer interest.

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@Speranza318: psvr is 120 fps, rift is 90 fps...

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@joshrmeyer: it’s not sufficient when the screen is inches from a your eyeballs.

PSVR - per eye resolution 960 x 1080 , Rift -per eye resolution 1080 x 1200

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@dakagesama: 120 fps isn't sufficient?

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@Speranza318: The Rift wants 90 fps not 60. Heck even the DK2 Rift wanted 75fps. Maybe I’m not understanding you’re comment correctly.

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PSVR has its own processing unit. It isn't just the PS4. Of course, that would add to the cost.

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@Lacerz: PSVR is has an interpolation unit, basically a very small processor. The graphics work is all handled by the PS4.

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@Kabal26: You said "interpolation".

Giggity.

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Ps4 isn't as powerful as a $1500 dollar "recommended" PC on top of a $600 add on? Who knew......

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@sargentpsgamer: $1500 is for the pc and oculus rift

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Palmer Lucky? Sounds like a bad porn star name.

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@DrunkenPunk800 I say if there was a World Masturbation Championship, . This would be the name of the champion. He would be competing against Harry Palm of course. >_<

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@zyxahn: I think Jack Off would win it.

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What Luckey seems to forget is people are going to wait it out until the price of the hardware drops. Which it'll do quickly once more VR headsets get on the market for PC. The ONLY reason why Rift is 600 at launch is because they won't have any competition until the Vive launches soon after. Give it a year and the price for both the Rift and the Vive will start to drop when they start fighting for the market share. We'll be seeing a new price war much in the same way we had with TVs when LCD and Plasma first hit the market.

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@Kabal26: Yup, same here. Not much of an early adopter; just wait till the prices come down

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