PS4 Remote Play Officially Coming to PC and Mac

PS Vita gameplay streaming service set to expand to desktops, Sony exec confirms.

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Sony’s Remote Play service, which allows PS4 gameplay to be streamed to PS Vita across a home network, is set to expand to PC and Mac.

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Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida confirmed the plans in a message to fans on Twitter, stating that “we are indeed working on an official application for PC/Mac.”

The announcement comes days after a developer, going by the online handle Twisted, announced an unofficial Remote Play app for Windows.

Remote Play launched in November 2013, during the global release of PlayStation 4, and was pitched as an alternative way to play PS4 games through a second screen. Gameplay data is streamed to the PS Vita across a home Wi-Fi network, with input commands returning back to the system. Certain phones, such as Sony’s Xperia Z5, are also compatible with the service.

There are no further details yet on how the service will work for PC and Mac owners.

Microsoft offers a similar console-to-PC streaming service, where an Xbox One can be mirrored on a Windows 10 device.

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If I stream to PC, can I play online without PS+? This can be a deciding factor to some gamers on whether to buy PS4 versions of games or get them from Steam/GOG.

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@Jinzo_111887:

You have to own a Playstation and have it turned on. Its no different than streaming to their $60 Playstation TV streaming device. You will be playing your Playstation just using a different screen other than your TV... Its not like the Windows 10 Xbox app where they will be porting some Xbox games, if not all, eventually.

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@obsidian_born: Which raises the question of "Why you should get the PS4 version of games over the PC version?"

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@Jinzo_111887:

This application that they are working on has nothing to do with PC gaming. It is simply using your computer monitor as a video output for your PS4.

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@obsidian_born: Even then, it seems like it would be a little pointless as the PS4 doesn't display in 4k resolution, and I don't see it doing that when it is streaming to PC. The only potential benefit I might be able to think of would be the ability to use non-DS4 controllers for the game.

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@Jinzo_111887:

There are no benefits aside from using a separate screen to free up the living room TV, or whatever TV your PS4 is plugged into.

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@obsidian_born: In my case, my console and PC would be hooked up to the same TV.

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@Jinzo_111887: I don't think that is how it works with this cross play addition.

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@tronicmoose:

It isn't cross play... All its doing is using your PC monitor to play your Playstation... thats it. Its no different than the Playstation TV device.

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@tronicmoose: Funny thing is that's how the competition seems to be doing it.

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@Jinzo_111887: I don't think it is

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@normanislost: Go ahead and look it up. If you stream to PC, you don't need a premium subscription fee for online multiplayer.

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@Jinzo_111887: stop... its the same.. if a dev/publisher mandates ps plus sub for access to that portion of their game then you need ps plus. This is their decision... that said, out of hundreds of games on ps4 only 14 demand ps plus to function. .. we know what your actual goal here is...

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@Mirimon78: That's true for free to play games. Can you show me retail ones don't require PS+ for online multiplayer? Also, if you're to say "use share play" that counts as requiring PS+ since two players can't interact with each other unless one of them has PS+.

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@Jinzo_111887: shareplay does not require ps plus.... at all...

As for retail games with online multiplayer that do not require ps plus... every mmorpg..... justvas an example, which you already know but you are and ever have been bent on naysaying ps plus (which isnoptional) and praising xbl (mandated)...

Go on, move some more goal posts and come back...

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@Mirimon78: So if neither player has PS+, they can both play online with each other without getting other people involved? I remember Sony saying the sharer needed it. Can you also use your own save files instead of the ones on the sharer's console?

Retail games, MMORPGs don't count as you can't just buy them as discs a store like Target, Meijer, Wal-mart, Toys'R'Us, etc.. Hint: Think Drive Club, Little Big Planet 3, Battlefield 4, etc. Also, I am not praising XBL. I despise that thing for tainting modern console gaming with this policy.

You're the one moving the goal post.

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@Mirimon78: I don't count MMOs as they have their own separate subscription fee.

Has to be all online modes that are free and has to allow me to use my own save files, not ones on other systems. Anything that uses Share Play doesn't count as it requires PS+ indirectly, thus isn't free, and doesn't let me use my own save files if I understand the purpose of it correctly.

Share Play requires PS+ to work, even if it is indirectly. That's why I don't count it.

Also, I would advise you to remove the last sentence from your post.

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@Mirimon78: My goal post hasn't moved, you're just misjudging the distance to it.

Even if it is on disc, which I have my doubts about, there was another reason I didn't count MMOs. I never got the appeal of them, despite having tried a few.

Check Sony's official FAQ. I remember them saying the sharer needs it to share the game with the sharee. That does count.

If you checked the Gamespot TOS, you might get why I advised you to edit that last post.

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@Mirimon78: Has to be completely free online. Has to allow you to use your own save files. Cannot be an MMO, which I doubt they have on disc.

If they require PS+ for any feature, that ruins free online as it's an attempt to charge multiple times for a game I already paid for.

Yes, I have read about it and it seems the sharer needs a PS+ subscription. Which ruins the free online multiplayer aspect of it. Feel free to do a little more digging on that if you want.

Just a warning, you're reminding me of someone I noticed got into trouble on the U.S. PlayStation Community forums.

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@Jinzo_111887: look kid, you have no clout in offering warnings, especially given your lack of integrity and intellectual capability.

Since you can't be bothered to actually look at the games offered on the shelves of the stores to see for your self, you could call them, or browse their catalogue online (don't take it from this retailer at all either, I am always lying...)

Actually, lets use some of your own fail logic here....

Game must be completely free to play online to count? That means no game, at all, especially not on pc counts either, given your logic. Why? Because you have to buy the hardware, the software, you have to pay for a place to stay and for power and for internet access... thus no game ever made for online olay is free to play, so you should just avoid gaming, and the internet all together ok?

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@Mirimon78: I'm pretty sure flamers on Sony's forums thought the same thing before they got in trouble. I might not be a mod, but you should avoid flaming just in case they are watching you.

My issue is with companies in the game industry to trying to charge multiple times to play online. On PC, the basic checklist is complete. Sony, MS, and many subscription based MMO companies are just charging for online to multi-dip.

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@Jinzo_111887: Save for FFXIV, the only other non f2p mmo on ps4 is eso, which doesn't have a sub fee. Sour I guess you have one game with out any online fees.

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Yes, stream your PS4 to your PC!

Instead of... you know.... playing games on your PC.

Exclusives aside, I think I'd rather just play my PC. Thanks for trying though console dudes, maybe next gen you'll get it right.

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@Richardthe3rd: You don't need a high end gaming computer...that is the point

Play PS4 on some old shitty laptop ect

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@Richardthe3rd: let me know how well that pc plays uncharted, surely since it played uncharted before... oh, wait, it didn't..... (attack UC if you like, but that is but one of MANY exclusive ip's that are both good, and not on pc.

Were they on pc already, sure, no reason to have a ps4, but they aren't. The same cannot be said for msft, who started on pc but cast pc aside. And who already haven't givwn us a rwason to buy their console, so they might as well just publish their crappy halo 5 and pther mediocre titles on pc, where they will still get at least a few sales to help recoup the recurring annual cost now up to $3 billion USD to keep the xbox brand operational....

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@Mirimon78: "but that is but one of MANY exclusive ip's that are both good, and not on pc."

"And who already haven't givwn us a rwason to buy their console"

UC is the reason? But I've had a PS3 sitting in my living room for a while, and I have never felt compelled to play these games. Subjective reasoning fail.

Sony hasn't given good reasons to buy it's console; it's a flaccid, barely improved continuance of the previous generation. Gameplay wise it hasn't expanded the capabilities of consoles; you're still expected to be a thumb-jockey that "oohs and ahhs" over cinematic, scripted third person games and auto-aim enhanced shooters. No RTS, no cross-platform viability, no nothing. You're still trapped by them.

M$ is at least coming to understand that consoles aren't relevant and people want more, even if their system is an abortion at this point. Sony needs to embrace the reality of the market and start making the actual experience of playing games better for their customers.

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@Richardthe3rd: I built a $1350 pc this August and it's awesome. But I still prefer to play on PS4.

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@bluebird08: im kind of the same, i game more on pc recently due to the witcher and fallout, but besides that ps4 comes first

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@haze0986: And isn't it telling that those 2 versions of the game are vastly superior on PC?

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So now what is the point in owning a Vita?

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@seven7swords: Persona 4 Golden

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@girlusocrazy @seven7swords: JRPGs are awful.

Vita is basically an indie handheld really. Which is sad, because it's the best handheld (physically speaking) currently available.

Hopefully their next one will be smart and include all the DualSuck buttons & an HDMI-Out, instead of short-changing us.

That being said, it's nice if you have PS+, because they overwhelm you with free games (usually indie)

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@skyhighgam3r: What about the NVidia Shield? That sounds like what you want.

Personally I find playing full AAA games on a handheld is annoying. The screen is too small to see far off targets for FPS/TPS, and there's no way you can build a proper analog stick for a portable unless they make it bigger, and the system's already too big for a portable. There's barely any games on there that work for 5-10 min of playing like you'd use a portable for.

The Vita was a niche system to begin with. Something like what you're talking about would never really sell either.

3DS on the other hand is doing very well since it's focused on titles that actually make sense for a portable experience and has none of those things you're talking about.

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@girlusocrazy: Well I never said my hopes were realistic. Just what I want. The Nvidia Shield definately seemed like a cool idea, but I find the concept of streaming any game from a home platform to a handheld one out elsewhere in the world to be impractical at this point.

The 3DS is... ok. I see why it sells, but it's got some serious problems on it's own. For one, the whole 'dual-screen' thing is nothing short of retarded. I don't know what they were thinking, regardless if it caught on. Then there's the incredible lack of ergonomics. You can't hold the thing for more than 10 minutes without getting a horrible hand cramp. Maybe people with tiny hands, or elf hands if you have the non XL model...

I would have gone off about the lack of a second stick and quad triggers, but they actually fixed that to my amazement on the newest models. It's just... still not there yet.

All in all... it really seems like handhelds and consoles are a (for the most part) split demographic between the two. What's great for handhelds fans is viewed poorly to console gamers... and it kinda sucks.

Someday we will find a happy medium. Rumor has it the NX is going to be a handheld/console hybrid... even if that's true though I won't hold my breath. in my eyes Nintendo has been going downhill in the hardware department ever since they ****ed up their deal with Sony in the 90s, and then came out with the N64.

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@skyhighgam3r: The thing is the Shield packs some decent hardware, just nobody's really porting games to it. Yeah you can stream but it can play its own games too.

Mobile's out because nobody's making AAA games, nobody's going to pay the price on mobile. Some AAA games do come out but really old ports that don't always support controllers.

The only hope for portable hardcore games probably is the NX... But Nintendo's always had problems with 3rd parties. Oh well!

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So does the streaming process require some powerful GPUs or is any basic intergrated card is enough ?

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@callsignalpha: just internet. The home ps4 does the work, like any game streaming.

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@callsignalpha: You'll just need good internet.

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@Slannmage: Not even good Internet, just decent wireing/wifi.

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@pezzott1: My internet is fantastic, and I almost always have hiccups in the streams at low quality.

It's an overrated and pointless feature.

just get off your *** and move your console to the other room, save yourself the headache of feeling like your playing a stupid online multiplayer game.

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@skyhighgam3r: rofl... ok?

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so I can use my xbox 360 controller for pc to play ps4 games while it streams, that be cool.

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If they putting this on pc and Mac why not open it up to all Android phones as well? (officially, I have a modded app running on my lg)

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@PayneKiller: Maybe they will, or maybe they're just being stubborn and trying to keep that as an exclusive feature of their tablets/phones/smartTVs.

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Nice! I'm not sure I will use this, personally, but I can imagine a lot of folks will find this very handy

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Does this mean they will also release support to make the PS4 controller compatible to use on the PC/Mac?

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@Kiaininja: ds4 has been pc supported since launch.. fyi...

Also, if ypu want to use every part of it, like the mouse pad, then simply run ds4 windows app....

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@Mirimon78: Basic level DX input support is FAR from what most people would consider "supported".

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@squall_83: Unofficially, I use the Scarlet Crush Production Driver with my PS3 controllers. It's supposed to work with PS4 controller. It works fine on Windows 8.1, but I'm not sure about Windows 10.

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@squall_83: no, that's exactly what "supported" means... plugging in and playing any game with standard controller function, no apps needed, drivers already included.... that is exactly what supported means.

Even you yourself said it, and then discounted it.

Support is support....

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@Mirimon78: It runs in DXInput mode. Games rarely use this mode anymore because almost all games run on XInput and use Xbox 360 controllers. It functions, but it doesn't work properly with most games. When most people think about something being supported they don't assume that it barely functions. There is a difference and that is my point. Once they release a proper driver that uses XInput and functions with the majority of games then it will be properly "supported".

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@squall_83: DXinput is great if you know how to work it right. Grab something like Xpadder, and you can play litterally anything (even navigate windows) with your controller.

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@Kiaininja:

I'd like it for sure. I'd rather official support with touchpad that can operate Windows like a mouse.

I also want it supported on the steam link since I prefer it to the Xbox one controller and my 360 ones are old.

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@lrdfancypants: It's not official, but go download Inputmapper program. You can use the PS4 controller perfectly on PC, you can even use the touchpad like a mouse.