Peter Molyneux on free-to-play Dungeon Keeper: "This is ridiculous"

The creator of the original game has played the mobile, free-to-play Dungeon Keeper and he thinks EA didn't get it right.

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Games industry veteran and creator of the original Dungeon Keeper Keeper (1997) Peter Molyneux isn't pleased with what Electronic Arts has done with the series in its recently released, free-to-play mobile version.

Agreeing with the overwhelmingly negative response to its aggressive monetization methods from critics and player alike, Molyneux found that they simply ruin the experience. "I felt myself turning around saying, 'What? This is ridiculous. I just want to make a dungeon. I don't want to schedule it on my alarm clock for six days to come back for a block to be chipped,'" he told the BBC.

Molyneux is referring to the game's "progress gates," which make you either wait for long periods of time or pay to complete an action.

"I don't think they got it quite right," he said, "the balance between keeping it familiar to the fans that were out there but fresh enough and understandable enough for this much bigger mobile audience."

As we reported earlier this week, EA Mythic senior producer Jeff Skalski told Tab Times that EA's "intention with the mobile version was to give as many people as possible a taste of that original Dungeon Keeper experience, and for some people, that’s not the way they want to re-visit the franchise."

Also drawing debate and controversy is Dungeon Keeper's ratings system. We have confirmed that on Android, you're not allowed to give the game less than a 5-star rating. Instead, it asks you to send a message to EA with feedback.

We also recently reported that the UK government is starting to take action against these kind of monetization methods in free-to-play games.

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masonicon

and that's why at the time when I made a speech on how Guilty Pleasures makes Everyone's a Hypocrite(or at very least look like it), I regret over paying real cash on Pay-to-Win games

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gamefreak215jd

The problem with the gaming industry is that its filled with casual idiots who can get conned easily by big publishers like EA and Activision.

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Mayleene

Why would anyone want to play this to begin with? Free to Play only translates to Free to Pay.

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fillup0

<< LINK REMOVED >> There are exceptions, Loadout has an extremely fair business model coupled with a very good matchmaking system.

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Dazanos

<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> As well as Path of Exile.

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Zachareason

Why are we still bothering with EA's mindless management and proffesional desecration of good games ? Aren't we used to it yet? I thought we liked it since we keep buying their games

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Detted

You should try: War For The Overworld it is It is almost Dungeon Keeper 2 just better graphics and gameplay. It´s on Steam.

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VirtualSkill

lol @ "not allowed to rate it below 5 stars"

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firehawk998

It is news like this that I am really glad I stopped buying EA products after ME 3 and BF3. Will it do anything to EA ( me not buying them ) NO but hey atleast I dont have to put up with stuff like this.

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Zombrex

EA is kinda like North Korea. Franchises get taken hostage and then are forced into backbreaking labor to produce game, then they wither and die.

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PhonyEye

If it says "EA" on the cover, you'd better stay away. everybody should know that by now. Hopes for a change in approach on EA side have been long gone.

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jemoedr

They should remake the old one for PC. It was awesome :)


What they did with the mobile version was just wrong :(

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Bheema

<< LINK REMOVED >> The PC version is available (DRM free) at gog.com.

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jemoedr

<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Not needed, i have it. The problem is that it doesn't work that well on Windows 7 x64, and it would be nice to see it with renewed graphics.


There are fanbased projects for it, but well... it's not professional or bugfree

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Saladudo

Off the record, BBC should interview EA. Evil mofos go in pairs.

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Warlord_Irochi

EA Games keep covering themselves with glory, aren't they?

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merrickx

"...to give as many people as possible a taste of that original Dungeon Keeper experience..."


Accrue massive amounts of profit from casual non-gamers and sudoku players with as little effort possible.

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Nev3rtime

<< LINK REMOVED >> What do you have against Sudoku players to lump them in with people who pay for trashy "Free to play" phone games?

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Warlord_Irochi

<< LINK REMOVED >> I think that was a joke, don't get mad dude.

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Warlord_Irochi

<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>Oookk... I'm sorry.
<Walks away feeling the burden over Nev3rtime...>

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Nev3rtime

<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Go away! Just.. just leave me alone with my sudoku book and chewed up pencil. >:(

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Toysoldier34

Is he serious? This is what his own game Godus is. A game with no creative direction and gameplay built around making money and mindless clicking while being restricted by time limits unless you pay.

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jemoedr

<< LINK REMOVED >> He's right though...

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Delta5931

EA is going down the hole FAST! This kind of news is just bad for EA. There stock holders must be peeing their pants and trying to sell as much as they can.

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jemoedr

<< LINK REMOVED >> Especially after their last C&C faillure...

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merrickx

<< LINK REMOVED >> Well, they've got the less informed, casual whales, so if they keep pursuing Zynga and King-like avenues, they might have a few good quarters.

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larkin-54

<< LINK REMOVED >> probably not EA is doing well on wallstreet with only increases in price so far in 2014

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Saketume

When even Peter Molyneux says you're crazy you know it's bad.

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SingletreeAve

Toll gates in a game? Now that's funny. And the EA titan wobbles a little more.

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m_dorian

EA. If people want this broken company to be fixed then, more and more people should avoid their products (free or not), only then they might re-evaluate their policies.

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merrickx

<< LINK REMOVED >> Well, in this context, most mobile "gamers" are not privy to industry happenings.

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IndremaLover

<< LINK REMOVED >> Great point. EA used to be a great game company a really long time ago. Too many people complain about them, and then proceed to shovel money towards them.

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DaDizzel

I love some FTP games, but you should be able to buy this game outright right so you can enjoy it. FTP games should only benefit from extras otherwise, I don't mean pay to win either. FTP games that make you pay more then the value of the game to have an enjoyable experience is a total ripoff and should be took of the market.

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PhonyEye

<< LINK REMOVED >> Correct. like Path of Exile does.

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tagzi

I downloaded this game deleted it after 2m playing didn't even get to the waiting part it sucked all the way :)

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ioshilee

<< LINK REMOVED >> The only good games on mobiles are those ported from PC or other platforms - Final Fantasy, f.e., others are p2w trash. Even Deus Ex: the Fall, a game that is cost a lot (compared to avarage mobile price tag) has built-in store...

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stalepie

"Ridiculously lucrative," he added. Ca-ching!

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Gwarpup

How can a developer control the rating system??? That throws the whole system into Chaos?!!

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merrickx

<< LINK REMOVED >> That type of shit happens directly and indirectly all the time.

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Please, from now on it is "free to pay" not "free to play", the latter does not exist in the EA offices.

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notsonegi

The amount of "progress gates" in this game make it pretty much unplayable

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OmegaGear

You know things have gotten really bad when Peter Molyneux makes sense.

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Karlinel

<< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah, I think it's written somewhere in the Book of Revelations...

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blutosan

If this is true, the current ratings for this game are fraudulent. They need to be thrown out immediately and restarted, possibly with sanctions against the publisher on the play store.