People Won't Buy Xbox One/PS4/PC Doom Just Because of Its Legacy, Bethesda Admits

Marketing executive Pete Hines says, "We need to prove ourselves again."

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The Doom series is arguably one of the most well-known and esteemed franchises in all of gaming, but Bethesda isn't banking on the franchise's past success to guarantee future glory. Marketing executive Pete Hines says in a new interview that Bethesda is not taking anything for granted with its upcoming Doom game for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC.

"We are going in as if we need to prove ourselves all over again," Hines told MCV. "We have no free passes. Nobody will assume this is going to be awesome."

Bethesda's challenge with the new Doom game, then, becomes making sure that it appeals to the modern gamer. "We are going to have to prove that this is something that's going to be fun and different that you need to pay attention to," Hines said. "That has to be our default position, we can't be: 'It's Doom. Of course you're going to play it.' But that just makes us work harder."

Bethesda is no stranger to resurrecting beloved franchises, as the publisher did the very same thing with this year's Wolfenstein: The New Order. From a critical standpoint, the game's release "went really well," Hines said, though it's unclear if the game was indeed a commercial success. He said he was glad that people found The New Order to not be "just another shooter." At the very least, the game helped the Wolfenstein series return to its former glory, Hines said.

"Let's be honest, [Wolfenstein] was a bit of a tarnished brand," Hines said. "And we knew that. The last couple of games were either 'OK' or 'not great.' It wasn't a franchise where people were desperate for the next one. Wolfenstein isn't Uncharted. We knew this would take some explaining. But developer Machine Games has now untarnished the IP."

The new Doom game for Xbox One, PS4, and PC--currently titled only Doom--doesn't have a release date and we don't know much at all about it. According to Bethesda, an earlier version of the game was not up to the company's quality standards, so it was rebooted. If you purchased a copy of Wolfenstein: The New Order, you'll get to play the Doom beta, but there is no word yet on when it will begin.

Developer id Software will give a "sneak peek" at the new Doom game at QuakeCon next week in Texas.

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Wolfenstein was awesome, and DOOM4 better be linear as f**k.

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Bethesda should stick to open world, quantity over quality type games.

When it comes to small maps first person games, they make pretty crappy material. Just look at the latest wolfenstein game it's probably one of the worst optimized games i've ever played

And the ID engine is responsible for this crap quality, the latest wolfenstein and rage both use that engine and it has some of the lowest resolution textures i've ever seen. Not to even get started with the poor performance

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@dannydopamine8 This one's running on idtech 6 not the broken mess that was used in the previous games. Besides there's a way to fix the issues in Wolfenstein:TNO.

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PS3 4 LIFE!!! NWO WCW STYLE :D

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I'm back again...trying to beg Bethesda again for a PS3 and Xbox 360 port of DOOM 4...I'm not planning on wasting a lot of money on a new console because I have to go to University in 2016 to study for a career in computer engineering so I hope that Bethesda realize that loads of people don't want to upgrade to next gen consoles and also some people that don't have that extra bit of cash to spend on a new gaming console or gaming pc...so I really hope that you consider on making a PS3 and Xbox 360 version of the game...if the graphics are as good as Wolfenstein The New Order was on PS3 and 360 then I would happily pay my $60 for the game


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Bethesda should make games for current-get like CD Projekt, it would be awesome if they do that

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PS3 and PS4 4 life....want DOOM 4 for PS3!!!!!!!!!! To hell with next gen graphics!!!

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this doing to be crap game. Bugsthesda

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Think it's time to take out the checkbook and go buy a ps4...going to sell one of my ps2 consoles and my 360...goodbye Gears of War trilogy...

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<< LINK REMOVED >> xbox one will have more Gears on it, for the same price as a ps4 now.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I know...but we're only getting the Xbox One in September and I need a new console sooner than that...

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It'd be nice if Bethesda could revive some of id's other old IPs, such as Quake or Commander Keen.

I'm assuming that Bethesda inherited all of id's old IPs, although it may not be that simple.

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I'm not judging the new Doom based on earlier Dooms, it's been such a long time since the last one and from rumours it seems like they want to either reboot it again (Doom 3 was kind of a reboot/reimagining) or go in a different direction, so they'll have to show what they got and hope that people like it. I'd like to play a Doom 4 demo, but I can probably see if it's good enough without one.

I bought Doom 3 ten years ago, because I liked the demo. It's one of the most atmospheric and eerie FPS games I can remember playing. The surroundings are dreadful, in a good way. Like with many games, it's not until you add one or a few mods that you really get the most out of it. Unmodded Doom 3 is a bit tedious, not something I'd like to replay very much, but with mods it won't get uninstalled any time soon.

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have a feeling, like often with Bethesda Games, the right (often higher if not highest) difficulty setting will play major role in terms of gameplay and atmosphere...


(the past Bethesda Games, Skyrim, Fallout 3/NV, Rage, Dishonored, were all best on the highest setting.. , well balanced, more gameplay, more intens atmosphere ect...without really being very hard..)

if you can "save anytime/everywhere" in the Doom Reboot, then it's well worth trying out a high (or the highest) setting.. (at least once you get used to the controlles..)


just hope they wont be any whinning reviewers, saying its not intens enough, but rush thru it on easy.. (or even normal, if they're shooter veterans..)

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DOOM 4 needs to be cross-generational!!! Even if it's the last thing I do I will go to Bethesda's office and beg them for a previous gen release!!!!! ID TECH 5 works on ps3 and 360 << LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> !! So it should be utilised to the full potential for sales you dumb asses!!! DOOM 4 needs to be on the ps3, ps4, 360, xbox One and pc...my final wish would be for DOOM 4 to be on the ps3 as well!!! I don't care how high the price for the game would be, how scaled down the graphics are or whatever...I'm going to buy it if it's on the previous gen! And for those who think I'm not thinking right, I've worked in two separate game stores and people honestly say that they don't have the money to afford the ps4 and xbox one...that's why they buy the new PS3 Super Slim 500gb...and for those of you who think my thinking is holding new gen back, you are just a bunch of people with money to waste!

DOOM 4, Far Cry 4, Rise of The Tomb Raider, Borderlands 3, next Prince of Persia, WWE 2K until at least WWE 2K18 should be released on the PS3...textures and large game files can be put on Blu-ray discs, even if it means that there should be two to five Blu-ray discs for a large and excellent game on PS3 then so be it!!!! PS3 should be supported more with high profile AAA games!!! You guys don't think logical!!! It's not to hold back the new gen ps4 and one, it's to be able to give poorer people or people in countries which don't have the latest technology to experience over the top notch gaming on the consoles that they can get or afford!!! The PS3 is the logical better console between the ps3 and 360 because of the Blu-Ray drive that's able to have larger games on discs...

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@christiaan1996 nooooooooooo and nooooooooooo! I want the best looking , best game play Doom. If they develop for past gen also it will be like Destiny. They had to cut back on textures and FPS because they wanted same game play across all platforms. Which in return hurts the ps4 and x1 edition of the game. I for one am sick of having games on old gen, its time to move on and start having the best possible game for X1 and Ps4.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Oh yes....you know what...Bethesda can mess this up BIG TIME!!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I have to disagree with you. It should NOT be cross-gen. Making games cross-gen is what holds them back from being able to reach there full potential. The next generation of consoles is out, they've been out for 8 months now and by the time DOOM comes out they'll likely have been out for a couple years. It's time to move on, and enjoy the newest generation of gaming and let the developers just focus on reaching the best possible experiences on the latest hardware.

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I hate how doom 3 would cheat by spawning monsters right behind you.

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don't know about this one for sure, haven't even touch the doom series yet, but seen a little bit way back in the '90s.

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So can someone answer my question to that if they agree that DOOM should also be released on the PS3 and XBOX 360...if Far Cry 4, Rise of The Tomb Raider, even Wolfenstein TNO for crap sake!!! So can DOOM also be released on older consoles!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> No. Last Gen Holds current gen back. This game probaby wont release for at least a year, so by that time current gen will be obsolete anyway.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yes, it should NOT be cross-gen, you are absolutely right. By the time DOOM comes out these new consoles will have been out for about 2 years.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> No you're wrong again...last gen doesn't hold new gen back...especially the ps3 which should be the only console that should be supported by first party titles!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> You know what? There are lots of people that don't have the money to upgrade...the ps3 isn't that old and just look at GTA 5!!! That and Gran Turismo 6 also are next gen titles...most people are currently buying ps3's and 360's...start thinking logical << LINK REMOVED >> ! And if you guys think that the ps3 is crap and shouldn't get the latest games and apps...think again!!! There are loads of people working they're asses off just to afford a ps3 and the hopes to buy the latest and best games!!! I have a gaming pc for the latest games especially DOOM but I want to play it on the ps3! I don't have the money to afford a PS4 now and I don't want one either! I know you guys support next-gen and hate pervious gen...but there are millions if not a billion people who own or are still going to buy a ps3 and xbox 360!!! PS3 is the most logical console which should receive new game releases until at least 2018!!! It should achieve much more than the ps2 ever could! DOOM 4 PS3 is what millions want!!! Stop being pessimists!!! PS3 has the Cell chip which with Blu-ray can create great gaming experiences for years to come!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Lol think "PS3 is crap", what did you get that from? Love my PS3 but next-gen is next-gen.


Should have Uncharted been canned because it wasn't possible on PS2? You messed up. D00M4 is next-gen. Never said you had to like it :)

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Nobody is working there asses off right now to buy a ps3. The new consoles are out, they will be "working there asses off" (as you put it) to buy the newest generation of consoles, which all future games will be made for. $400 is really NOT that much money to come up with, even if it takes someone just a couple months of saving.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Just convert that to Rand and then add at least R5000

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The whole 'Last Gen holds us back' is sadly true. Even if the PS3 & 360 still have many reasons to prevent gamers from upgrading, why should the games that 'should' be about the future hardware concern themselves with Last Generation?


Answer is they shouldn't! PS3 and 360 already have a healthy library of games. It's thinking like christiaan1996 that prevented Little Big Planet 3 being a true sequel.


Think about that for a moment, before demanding Next Gen greatness being downgraded for your Last Gen preference.

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Doom needs to go back to its roots. While Doom 3 was a very atmospheric game it did not deliver the raw adrenaline of the older Doom games.


They need top go backwards. Doom should be about being overwhelmed by the Hordes of Hell, period. Not about scares and dark corridors. Go back to the old style where you enter an area and you fight for your life because all types of uglies are coming for your skin.


If they deliver that with next gen graphics count me in.

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While Doom 3 was a very atmospheric game it did not deliver the raw adrenaline of the older Doom games?

yes it did and you probably played it on the wrong (to low) difficutly setting back then...

(but today, wouldnt play it on a to high setting anymore..., it's tough for use who are used to "COD-casualty"..)

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I would even pay $700 for this game if it was on the PS3!!!!! Would give anything for a ps3 and xbox 360 version!!!! Don't care if the graphics are little worse than the newer consoles!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Buying a ps4 and new tv and the game will cost you less then 700$.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yes I know but just convert that to Rand in South Africa...that's at least R10000 for a good hd tv and R7000 for a ps4 with 1 controller!!!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> You would pay $700 for this game.. but you can't afford to upgrade to a ps4? Not the brightest crayon in the box I see.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I CAN AFFORD THE GAME AFTER SAVING MONEY FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS!!! MY FATHER PAYS ME ON A WEEKLY BASIS! I'm from South Africa so we live on a farm...learnt being a gamer with my father at age 2...first game was Monster Truck Madness...and if you even think of insisting that I'm mad then you have mistaken me for some bush pig outside in the field...At least my grades are all A+...Iions are roaming our farms in this country...

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I do not think your mad, I just don't see why someone would not want to upgrade to better technology if they an afford to pay $700 for a $60 game. I understand you were being partially sarcastic, but the reality of it is the new technology is out, and developers are going to develop for that.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> No! It's not that! I DO NOT WANT A PS4 just yet!!! I BELIEVE THE PS3 SHOULD HAVE IT!!! I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE NEW TECHNOLOGY!

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I need to see if I can get Doom and Doom II on here. And then the Brutal Doom mod.

That, and the new trailer for DOOOOOOOOM looks sweg.

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Wolfenstein: TNO was ok, better than Doom3 for sure, but still lacking of PROPER level design to be considered an "old school revival". It was not, very heavily story driven and tunnel-like experience.


We need THE MAZE.

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I hope they realize that we don't want a stupid story driven/ tunnel like game. We want the old glory of Doom with fancy graphics, outrageous horror themes and ye olde old school fps shooter mechanics.


Fail to deliver and it'll burn you down Bethesda. Just sayin'.

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