Parts of Mass Effect 3 DLC already on disc - EA

Publisher says "certain framework elements" of From Ashes content needed to be on disc to ensure "seamless" integration of new character.

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BioWare has admitted that pieces of the From Ashes downloadable content for Mass Effect 3 are already on copies of the just-released action role-playing game.

Mass Effect 3's first DLC is already (partially) on disc.
Mass Effect 3's first DLC is already (partially) on disc.

In response to a user video showing that PC players could unlock the DLC's new character without a download, BioWare issued a statement to the GameStop-owned Game Informer magazine. The same statement was sent to GameSpot.

"As stated previously, in order to seamlessly integrate Javik into the core campaign, certain framework elements and character models needed to be put on disc," reads the statement. "We did something similar with Zaeed and Kasumi in Mass Effect 2."

It was not made clear if the parts of the From Ashes content are included only on the PC version of Mass Effect 3 or if PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 copies also host the content. As of press time, Electronic Arts had not responded to GameSpot's request for comment.

Last month, Mass Effect 3 executive producer Casey Hudson defended the timing of the From Ashes day-one DLC for the spacefaring role-playing game. He said development on the content did not begin until after the game was finished and in certification.

The From Ashes content is included with the collector's edition of Mass Effect 3 and is available for purchase. It includes a Prothean squadmate (Javik), a mission on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate appearance option for every team member.

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gamespot obviously stating the obvious... in other news: the sun will rise 2morrow

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@polterdice That's sad but true. There are some people who don't have internet connections suitable for downloading add-ons to games and have to either settle for the base game or wait until a complete edition comes on. This is basically PC gaming on consoles. You'd get the base PC game...then all of a sudden a few months down the road there would be an expansion pack, then another and so on. Then eventually you'd find everything in one complete package.

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Its even more pathetic to cover up the truth with another lie when you got caught Bioware. That is why I don't buy any of your products. You REALLY think that gamers are THAT stupid? please....

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Im surprised how many people think this is new news about DLC are people reaaaaaly this slow

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It's easier to think of current gen gaming as follows: New Release = Beta Service by Subscription. Pay to participate in beta in testing bugs and initial content. Decide to continue subscription by purchasing additional beta content when released. Game of the Year Edition = Completed Project. Purchase the GOTY edition to enjoy the complete game as intended.

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Like you needed any more bad publicity Bioware.

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@fanbois, haha sure i'll eat my (free) pie and have my fun; especially since they didn't manage to cheat me this time - while you losers had to pay for a sellout product which managed to get an 10 extra bucks outta you. you guys will never learn how to say NO so you deserve EA's fangs. long live piracy!

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Anyone that actually bought this boring, contrived piece of garbage deserves to get ripped off. lol

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So?? I've known this since ME2. Kasumi, Zaeed and parts of Lair of the Shadow Broker were on the disc. Just double back through installation and it's there. I think there's some Overlord stuff also. It wouldn't shock me if it was on any other PC games. I just shrug my shoulders and know that they'll get what's coming to them eventually.

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What's going to be next? make us pay double the price to unlock the final mission? I was thinking on buying the game, but when someone treats me like I'm an idiot I tend to react... and this is exactly what EA is doing: they are making people pay to "unlock" content already present in the DVD... so increasing the price of the final product and instead, selling it as an add-on for the game. This is called LYING, no matter how anyone tries to explain it... might not be illegal, but I personally feel insulted, and when a company insults me I tend no to buy their products... if there were more that did the same, EA should probably rethink their business strategy... and yes, this goes for you mindless, zombie like, Bioware-fans... I'm so upset that the only words I can think of to describe EA and Bioware "questionable business practices" are filtered. So, I think it is not necessary that I specify where EA and Bioware can stick their game up to, right?

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i guarantee half the people here complaining bought this game the first day. you are now an enabler and this is actually your fault for giving them money. either shut up and enjoy what you bought (and what you didn't get due to corporate greed), or suck it up and not buy a game to make a statement (although sadly i think that point is way gone). have a nice day.

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@Code-Llama Hey fair enough, you're entitled to your own opinion. For the record I didn't down vote you (I think it's a little silly that someone would do that to a person simply for having a different opinion). But in another sense you're absolutely right - if this was the decision of the developers, I wouldn't have a problem with it. An artist should be able to claim how much their creation is worth, after all. It's only when the publishers intervene and put restrictions on these things that I start to get frustrated.

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@DragonRift I don't see how being forced to buy books for classes in university is a scam... If you go to university, you should expect to purchase textbooks. It makes sense. But moving on. "It's not fair to sell part of a package". Maybe, it really depends. Are you being ripped off? Did you feel that you didn't get your money's worth? In Mass Effect 3's case, the answer is probably no. If you say "yes", if people had never found these pieces of DLC lying about, would you feel differently? The answer is probably yes. Your analogy to CDs and movies could make sense, if that was something that existed in the medium. DLC is widely accepted and (usually) regarded as "welcome additional content" in the gaming community. This specific piece of content was never "part of the package". It was always DLC, and that's that. It's plain and simple. Now just because it was on the disc, you feel it should be yours for free? That's just being cheap.

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Im so happy that i read this news. Now im not going to buy Mass Effect 3. DLC is the enemy of developers and publishers not the used market.

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oh just shut the hell up and admit that you tried to pull a fast one over gamer's and got caught

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@kinstar2002 I kinda know it's not worth it...after I beat the game I looked up the DLC mission and conversations on YT...so I know what this DLC is about:p But after other stuff are released, let's say in a span of a year or so...I might buy it...:p

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@Code-Llama Oh please. It's as much of a scam as being forced to buy books for classes in college. Game companies have become so tremendously greedy this past generation, they feel fully justified in nickel-and-diming everyone. They are selling their games at $60 a pop. Granted, I know it's still cheaper than the 16-bit days, but you really think it's fair to sell part of a package at full price, only to offer the rest of it for a few bucks more on day one? That'd be like selling a blu-ray movie for $20, and asking the consumer to pay $5 more so they can access the deleted scenes and special features. Or buying a music CD for $13, only to find out that you have to pay another $5 in order to access three bonus music tracks that are already there. No one's complaining about "ownership" here. It's about what they're paying for. We're paying full retail price for what's advertised as a complete game. That is, all content that's available on the disc itself should be open to access upon purchase. If they want us to start paying extra in order to unlock parts of the disc we already have, then they need to start selling their games at $40 or less. It's not about entitlement. They are selling a product, and they're expecting us to pay more than the posted price in order to get the complete game. It may be business to you (as well as it appears to EA, Activision and Capcom), but it's an obvious scam to everyone else. Gamers have every right to be infuriated by this.

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Ok...so I searched the net for available information, but it is said nowhere that you can unlock the entire mission. You can unlock the character that's it. Looks like I will just have to try it on my own version and see it it's true... But still...until now, there's no proof that the DLC is in the original game...just the character...so Bioware didn't really lie here

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@Duke_51 Indeed, EA is known for its bad practices. But I definitely do not see this as one of them. I'm clearly in the minority, just sharing my opinion (and being down-voted in the process o/).

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EA makes me sick. They have been caught red handed and the best they can do is "some of it was on the disk for technical reasons." Vague statements like that only make them look worse. They just need to admit that the "DLC" was content cut from the game and then repackaged as extra content.

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ACMC85, I completely agree. They seem like they're *trying* to get attention now, even including the clause "As stated before,". They oughta just quiet down about it, what needed saying has already been said. No big deal. For the record, I think this DLC is wonderful. I do want them to alter their business plans to only endeavor DLC after a game's launch, but, there are a lot of things I want from them and this is in the middle of the pile.

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@Code-Llama Except this isn't the decision of the developers as to what their product delivers, it's the Publisher in this case - EA. There is nothing shady or "sneaky" about what Bioware does - they make the game, they create art. But, I mean, there's really no use defending the shady business practices of EA... these are the same people who want to oust used games remember. Big publishers are the equivalent of major record labels - they do nothing but find ways to rip off the artist AND the consumer. These aren't friendly companies.

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Why does EA even stoke the flames? People are paying them no matter what. They got every game player in their hands and they know it. I don't see why the care. They could make a Mass Effect 4 with half the game missing and people would still buy it. In fact, they probably will.

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Are the same people that are mad about this or see this as a scam mad of feel scammed because bioware planned the whole plot of the mass effect series out ahead of time and didn't just make one game out of it? After all the last 2 games weren't on the disc with the first game but it was thought out ahead of time.

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@DragonRift I don't see it as a scam. As I said twice, it's business. They are entitled to do it, and they have every right to. People are always under the illusion that whatever digital media (in physical, or not, form) they buy, is their own complete property. That is not true, rightfully so. What they're actually buying, is a disc with a "license" to play the game. And what is licensed to them is decided by the licensee. DLC is an "acronym" for "DownLoadable Content", however it is essentially synonymous with extra content. Eventually, you at least have to download an extension of your license to gain permission to a specific portion of content. As a Software Developer myself, I see things this way quite clearly. And I completely agree with it. The developers should always decide what their product delivers, never the other way around. It is the consumer's responsibility to evaluate whether they want what's offered or not. And it's even more ridiculous when we're talking about Mass Effect 3, a game with a plethora of content.

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You know what, I paid for the Collector's Edition of the game, so I got the DLC and all sorts of other stuff for free. I would be upset with this, except a CHEAT program was used to manipulate the files to get access. So that makes his argument invalid. With this character, I don't see any benefit to him storywise...yet. I have not finished the game, but I sure am enjoying it. And flaming begins in 3...2...1

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@Code-Llama: Sure it's business NOW, but just a few short years ago this DLC would have just been on the disc when you bought it in the first place. That's what's so upsetting. A lot of companies nowadays are just taking content out of the game (or in this case making DLC content on the side while the game is still being worked on) and then selling it for extra money as DLC. That's complete BS. Imagine if you bought a new car and everything is just fine with it, except the windshield wipers are missing. To have those windshield wipers, which are a necessary part of the vehicle, you have to pay them extra money a couple weeks later and they'll send them to you. Now are you really going to sit here and tell me that it's ok to just take content out of a game and sell it to your consumers at a later date? Because guess what, it's not ok. It's unethical.

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ensure "seamless" integration of new character. GET THE F OUT OF HERE do you really think we are that stupid? Damn you EA ruining everything.

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Pretty soon every company is going to be doing this. Gaming is going down a dark road. There was a time when making a good quality game came first and price was second but it is slowly going the other direction.

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@moremoneythanu What the f*ck? That is some funny sh*t!

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@Code-Llama I think it's more about the fact that it's not really "downloadable content" being that it's mostly already on the disc itself. DLC is supposed to be additional content created in order to expand on what the game already has to offer. Day-one DLC is in itself a scam, no matter how you twist it. There is no real justification other than a cheap way to sucker new purchasers into throwing away another $5-$10. And being that it works, more and more developers are doing it more and more often. Do you recall the outrage over Capcom releasing the "Versus Mode" DLC on Resident Evil 5 shortly after it came out? It was already on the disc, and people had to pay more than the $60 they already spent just to access it. I'm not saying DLC is bad. There are plenty of games that offer GOOD DLC. Crap like this though gives people plenty of reason to hate it... Can you really blame them?

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im just disappointed in the lack of side quests in this game i had more fun in the second game goin planet to planet to find stuff to do now its just point and scan no reason they cant make a 50+ hour game i spent months on skyrim finished mc3 in less than a week

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@moremoneythanu-hahaha!! Rad! I love it! This will hit home with some....Good luck mate! LOL

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@DragonRift Oh, don't worry. We let them know every time whenever Capcom headlines an article. WE UP VOTE THE HECK OUT OF THOSE COMMENTS

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@moremoneythanu You weren't banned for last time you did this?

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The ending in ME 3 sucked... but this DLC.. i hate to admit it... was excellent. I played almost every mission with Javik, the prothean, and his dialogue provides a whole bunch of insight throughout the story. The dialogue alone is worth it.

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I'm really getting tired of companies ripping us off through DLC. It's because of this on-disc DLC garbage that I decided not to get both Mass Effect 3 and Street Fighter X Tekken. Sorry, but when I pay $60 for a game it better be a COMPLETE game. If you want to add some extra DLC content a few months down the road to extend the replayability of a game then by all means, go for it. But when there is content ON THE DISC that I need to PAY FOR if I want to have it.. well, that's just something that I'm not ok with. I'm not giving these greedy bastards any more of my money until they stop this over-priced, ripoff DLC bull. If I've already paid you $60 for your game, then I shouldn't have to pay you more for stuff that should have been in the game in the first place. And also, the fact that they are lying and making up BS reasons for this DLC just makes me not want to buy the game even more.

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It will be interesting to see how revenue returns for the next game they release. EA / Bioware is looking worse for worse with their questionable business tactics. Free quality DLC from here on out may be the road to redemption.

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So i'm guessing this will further delay any 'all in one' edition of Mass Effect 2 i've been waiting forever for? Hell at this point i'm willing to take xbox live games on demand digital download but it's not even available there. Also (sorta off topic), this isn't the first time we've seen DLC under false pretenses. Lots of new multiplayer characters that everone had to wait for DLC drops in Gears of War 3 would show up in the game as bots when someone dropped out of multiplayer months before any official press release.

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@Daemoroth That's why I called him a loser.

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@Daemoroth I don't know if he is trolling or not but he keeps this sh*t for a few months now...had a fight with him on a news page because he is such a moronic kid...

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@Daemoroth A price drop is better... At least for Bioware history of great games and to show support...I for one still hope they will throw EA away or do something and go back to what they used to be... Or waiting for a Gold or something Edition that I hope it will come out because I freaking hate DLC and won't buy ME3 unless this sort of edition comes out...

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@Code-Llama, @Darnasian, @NeilCardiff, I'm pretty sure moremoneythanu is trolling. There is no way any human being could be THAT delusional and have the intellect required to know how to breathe.

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@moremoneythanu Lawl youa re such a stupid kid... You didn't repsect your own rules... You said MW2 which is more than 2 years old so this proves you are a moron which should delete his PSN/SEN id XD

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@moremoneythanu Desperate loser is desperate.

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Wow EA just keep making excuses, what ever helps you sleep at night. So what if the DLC wasn't ready when you submitted the game to the ESRB. You delayed the game by 3 months so why did it take so long just to get some DLC done huh? Anyway you shouldn't have even charged for it, it should have been free. Left 4 dead DLC is free, Witcher 2 DLC is free, Bastion DLC is free, Portal 2 DLC is free, Team Fortress 2 DLC and updates are free, and one of Mass Effect 1 DLC was free. So not only should we not have to pay for stuff that should have been in the game in the first place but especially for something that wasn't in the game due to Bioware's inefficiency to get it done on time.

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I don't understand all the whining. It's business. Is this DLC crucial to the campaign? No. Does the campaign not offer enough gameplay to satisfy you? It does. Actually, it's a huge game. This is optional stuff. It doesn't matter at all that you payed for a disc that had that particular content in it. They only make it available if they want to. It was never promised as part of the package, so they're not lying to you. It's business. Quit your whining and shell out the extra money if you want the extra content. Getting downvoted in 1...2...3..

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you know what i want to see a company that doesn't try to defend them selves about putting day 1 dlc on the disc. And just saying "everyone else is doing it" .

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@moremoneythanu Haha, that's pretty hilarious.

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