Pachter: Xbox One $400, PS4 $350

Analyst Michael Pachter estimates prices for upcoming consoles from Microsoft and Sony, says Nintendo must have strong E3 showing.

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Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter has weighed in on what he believes the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 will sell for when they both launch later this year.

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In a note to investors obtained by Games Industry International, Pachter said he believes the Xbox One will retail for $400, while the PlayStation 4 will debut at $350.

Pachter's pricing estimations are based on bill of materials figures of $275 for the PS4 and $325 for the Xbox One.

Though Pachter believes the Xbox One will be the more expensive console at launch, he also predicts that Microsoft may offer a subsidized model, available at a lower price when consumers agree to a subscription plan.

"We believe the ability to watch live TV from a cable, telco, or satellite set-top box through Xbox One could entice an MSO to drive subscriptions through a subsidised box in exchange for a multi-year contract," Pachter said. "The 'always connected' requirement for the Xbox One likely means that a broadband connection will be required, suggesting to us that ISPs may have an incentive to offer a subsidy as well."

GameStop chief financial officer Rob Lloyd said last month during a post-earnings financial call that the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are likely to be less expensive at launch than their predecessors.

The Xbox 360 launched in 2005 for $300/$400, while the PlayStation 3 debuted in 2006 for $500/$600.

Regarding Nintendo and the struggling Wii U, Pachter said the company must use its scaled down 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo showing to prove to consumers that compelling games are coming for the system.

"Nintendo risks losing additional share to its console competitors if the quality and volume of content available for Wii U does not pick up markedly in the near-term," he said.

"In addition, if the Wii U's popularity does not improve by the end of the year, many third-party publishers may pass on producing games for the console. We note that EA recently announced that it had no Wii U games in development, and it remains a possibility that the publisher will abandon the platform entirely," he added. "Should other third parties follow EA's lead, the Wii U could be relegated to a first-party-only platform."

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Patcher: can u give me some tree fiddy

Chef's dad: damm u lochness Patcha u got the price wrong on bough o em

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x box price is just stupid xbox has just persuaded me to not buy it

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Just remembered this failure of an analyst and the prices he predicted.


HA! Try again Pachter. This might very well be the one moron on the entire planet that still has "journalists" listening to him after so many fails. Seriously Makuch, stop listening to what this ignorant says.

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Do what I always do, I never buy a game or system when it comes out. if you don't buy this overpriced xbox one, I guarantee in 30 days it will be a price drop. they overcharge and hype new games and systems because they know people will complain but stand in line waiting to buy. If people just didn't buy it, within 30 days you would see a 50 dollar price drop. in 30 more days if people still don't buy it will be 100 dollars cheaper, but most gamers will complain about the price but rush out to buy it on the first day.

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Xbox One: U$499

PS4: U$399

Pachter: WRONG AGAIN, oh my, this guy is on a spree! :D

If there's something in this industry you can trust, that something is that Pachter will be wrong.

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Edited By Poncho_Hachacha

Pachter being wrong? You don't say...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUttbZcv7WI

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"I'm excited to announce that Xbox One will launch this November in 21 markets around the world. At $499 in the US, 499 Euros in European Markets. 499 pounds in the UK"... I think this guy is a little off (especially if you convert euros or pounds to dollars lol)

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Pachter, you just got DENIED! Xbox one is $500

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hey pachter. dont you ever get tired of being WRONG?

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Edited By Aphyosemion

It sure sounded good, until reality set in. Xbox is going to be $500!!! Ack!! OH GOD, MY WALLET HURTS!!

Let's hope the PS4 is cheaper, since I'm not paying MS to have my customer rights violated or taken away completely, anyway.

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WRONG!

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Xone is $499.00 + tax :) screw that for some entertainment system.

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@106473 Xbone*

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Way off on Xone

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Pachter wrong again you paid off MoFO

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Australians pay too much for gaming! And Australians need to be heard on this subject! Also does anyone know that our Prime Minister gave Bill Gates $1Billion dollars whilst visiting only a few weeks ago and what for I don't know?

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I assume this is USD so how do you justify Australians paying $899 per console? AUD compared to USD is so close and this means we're paying a massive mark up and that is ridiculous! Australians have always been ripped off for gaming! The US,UK etc pay around $60 for their games we pay $120! In no way does it cost double to ship to Australia So why are we paying so much?

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If your going to pay more for Xbox One with lesser specs than the PS4 and to simply watch TV via your TV then you must be barking mad.

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And with the PS4 having higher specs, yeah right! more like around $500 or something.

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On a side note, I just checked my local online classifieds and it looks like people are selling their current gen systems (XB360 and PS3), in droves for under $100. Thats including 3-5 games. Does anyone else think thats really cheap? Seems like people should be able to get more money than that.

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@NetGod Supply and demand. If 10 people are selling a PS3/360 for $150, then if you want to sell yours; you have to lower your price to make it more appealing to sell.

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not happening...............fap it.

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Seriously Pachter, I stopped listening to your predictions when you said Bioshock was going to the game of year in sales and GTA5 was coming out last September. Shame you are not being paid for your accurate predictions. Gamers have the best insight into what is coming and what is best for us. We spend the money and we make these corporations rich. Never forget that. Players are the power.

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I bet the PS4 is going to be smaller then the PS3 slim I have a feeling its going to be the size of a laptop . But find out soon E3 starts Monday. but sony for life im not much of a Microsoft fan and if its true that the Ps4 is $50 cheaper then the xbox one that is so awesome

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@adamg78 They will be the same price, at least here in Europe, see my post below.

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Both consoles are listed on amazon germany for 599 euros

http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Xbox-One-Konsole/dp/B00CUGKF2A/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1370682100&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=xbox+one

http://www.amazon.de/Sony-PlayStation-4-Konsole/dp/B00BIYAO3K/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1370682151&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4

All games for 99 euros

http://www.amazon.de/Ubisoft-Watch-Dogs/dp/B00CXM4AJ0/ref=pd_sim_vg_7

http://www.amazon.de/Ubisoft-Watch-Dogs-PS4/dp/B00BJ3CYJW/ref=pd_sim_vg_2

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xbox one is dead in the water before it even hits the shelves. R.I.P.

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Pachter is a complete idiot.

Yet he thinks the PS4 will cost less then the One?

If it's true that the Kinect 2 and other things are causing the Xbox one to be more expensive, then Microsoft will have a major problem on it's hands.

Cheaper...more powerful...and doesn't spy on you? No xbox live charge as well?

I think it's pretty clear to see what will sell more.

Also the Wii U should see more games and a lower price.

I felt M$ was basically screwed even if it was $50 cheaper than the PS4...but if it's more expensive...wow.

Somehow it doesn't make much sense that a console only about twice as powerful as a Wii U could somehow be the most expensive console.

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Ps4 is for games lets say 400$ and Xbox One is for games and also other things lets say 450$ ? Xbox One please ... Why should i pay Ps4 or why should anyone in the world buy anything from Sony. Sony is probably the MOST overpriced company in the history. And people still says "Cant pay for XLive" .. yeah how and why the **** you should pay 3$ per month for better service ? ... please ... Ps4 got %50 more power ! And how is that ? DDR5 to DDR3 is %50 power difference ? And comparing already "LOW LEVEL" Cpu's againts eachother ... Please guys ... Be Realistic and get a PC ...

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@arqe Be realistic and get a PC? News flash bud, a DECENT gaming PC STARTS around $1000+, idk about you but I think I'd rather spend the 300-400$ price tag for the new consoles. Oh, and before you start bashing Sony, get your facts straight bud, the Xbox 360 is a piece of SHIT, it constantly broke and never was reliable, verses the PS3 that never had any major hardware problems.

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@Mattooh @arqe your right,360 had the red ring,but did you forget,ps3 had ylod, I do believe that is a major problem

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@legend162 @Mattooh @arqe The PS4 will likely to have similar TV features like Xbox One, and the red ring of death was far far more common with the 360s over heating problems not to mention scratched disks, its the worse manufactured console in history.

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@Mattooh @arqe you obviously dont know jackshit about pc's then. a decent gaming pc would be around 600-700. budget gaming pc's usually go around 400-500 and high end pc's usually go around 800-1000.only those monster pc's that have WAY over the top parts lke i7 processors go for +1000. and dont assume i only know this because im some sort of pc fanboy because i own and play a ps3,360,ps2,dreamcast,wii,gamecube and 3ds so i like consoles just as much as the next guy but lets be realistic like OP said pc's are the future and unless these new consoles seriously step up their game pc's will take over.pcs can already do everything these "next gen"consoles can do and much much more.

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@x_lightning_x @Mattooh @arqe try to price I7 3960x,16/1600,512 samsung SSD,wifi,blutooth,blu-ray, and oh my awesome 690gtx.x79 mb and a cool alienware case...............fap it........

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@arqe Be realistic and get a PC? News flash buddy, a DECENT gaming PC START'S around $1000+. Not everyone has that amount of cash available. I'll take a console, that being the xbox one or the PS4. Oh I forgot to mention that the xbox 360 was a PIECE of SHIT that constantly broke! Don't bash on Sony until you get your facts straight bud.

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@arqe ...most overpriced company in history...guess stock prices were not factored into that statement ....even without considering stock prices I still think Apple is more overpriced...and they release the same product with a small upgrade..

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@reborn007 @arqe said "probably" and most of the Apple products got their on levels.Doesnt have much competition.Most people doesnt buy from Apple becouse its overpriced but most of the time noone got the Equal device to compare with. But with Sony you its all the same.You can buy Equal TV - Phone or anything cheaper. And Cheaper means you can buy with HUGE difference ...

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@arqe @reborn007 For gods sake guys ^^^^ spell your words correctly and at least re-read your sentences. I usually dont care for grammer but this is just ridiculous.

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Pachter’s ass must hurt since he keeps pulling out so much information from it…

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cheaper subsidized two year cable contract model XO? Or PS4 at 350 bucks with more power and better exclusives because they actually have brands beyond Halo and Gears of War. All for the low price of a Wii U of 350 before tax? Not bad. PS4 is looking good. If they throw in a real browser and allow you to upload your streams to everyone and not just psn people, I'll buy. Totally buy!

I'll start saving up for my PS4 now.

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@telaros They have yet to talk about anything related to the console.

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wow watch tv from xbox. too bad i live in an area of the world where we have INTERNET based tv broadcasting (see Estonia)

And PS3 already has a tv box

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"Pachter's pricing estimations are based on bill of materials figures of $275 for the PS4 and $325 for the Xbox One."

And yet the PS4 is still stronger by a very big difference.

Just what is it Microsoft wasted money on? the VCR plates?

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@TohouAsura its got alot of things for the cable and the 3 operating system thing i guess. + kinect probably isn't cheap

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What? A BoM of $275only for the PS4? I thought the GDDR5 RAM only was very expensive. If that's true they could afford even a more powerful GPU, what the heck!

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@slainta

While I will be buying a PS4, the nvidia equivalent right now is $200, and as the GTX 700 series roles out it will be in the $150 range that by this time next year will be selling for $100.

The 'One' has an nvidia equivalent of $100 right now, and probably $60-80 by this time next year.

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@jmc88888 @slainta Good luck finding a GPU with 8 GiB of RAM anytime in the next year. You'll have to buy 2-3 GPUs for that.

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I am still more interested in the X1 as my first next-gen console purchase. If anybody wants to know what it will take for Sony to win over a Xbox fan this generation, I've taken a few moments to share my thoughts. Feel free to have a read and let me know your opinion on the topic.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/xxYetterxx/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-26027727

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@xxYetterxx SONY decalred all PS4 games except for MOVE games will have PSVita remote play as a requirement.

Having the PS1/2 games appear on PSN is not up to SONY, but the respective publishers. They have already made lots of efforts in bringing hit games over to PS3 with HD collections.


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