Obama calls for game violence research

@elmarko98@1234die@TheLobotimizer

You think the deaths of 3 people are better than 1500 rapes/assaults?

Before you answer consider the fact that 13% of rape victims attempt (not all succeed) to commit suicide.

I'll take the three deaths and let my wife keep her gun

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@Sianodel @_Roo_ @TheLobotimizer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2966263/posts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_arguments_of_gun_politics_in_the_United_States

@_Roo_ @TheLobotimizer please reference your sources, many thanks.

@TheLobotimizer Do your research.

The UK averages 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 citizens a year. The US 466 violent crimes per 100,000. The murder rate in the UK is 1.2 per 100,000. In the US it is 4.8 per 100,000 (which includes the criminals that guns are used against.)

Each year in the US approximately 2.5 million crimes are stopped by people with fire arms. Compared to 13,800 murders (not just gun murders.)

You will never take the guns from the criminals even if we ignored that thing called the constitution (something Our Dear Leader in the White House is very fond of.) Gun bans would only hurt law abiding citizens.

Fact: Crime goes down in every state that puts conceal carry laws in place.

I type this at work with my Sig against my thigh. The same one used at Sandy Hook and yet somehow it has never killed anyone. Maybe if that kids mother had stored her guns properly or hadn't felt the need to pump psychotropic drugs (with listed side effects of violent tendencies and suicidal thought) into his system day after day, month after month, and year after year she, the teachers, and the children would still be alive.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

@1234die @TheLobotimizer Which of the sources that Wikipedia uses are fabricated and less informed information than you? You are simply guessing that there is more violence because you did not take every factor into account.

@TheLobotimizer @1234die How does wikipedia win an argument???? If you're gona use that dont bother lol

@TheLobotimizer @Double_Wide @thenephariouson

"A response" is much different than "An effective response". I can get shot in leg, someone put a bandage on it, and call it "a response"...did it help at all?

@Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer @thenephariouson I concur crime has been a larger part of american culture than most others(ie: ganster shows and a respect from teenagers for criminals). Gun control will not solve this problem outright. But I would really like a responce from someone on why they need an assault rifle.

@TheLobotimizer @Double_Wide @thenephariouson

In general or due to gun violence? Because what's effecting american public safety may not at all be gun related...

@Double_Wide @thenephariouson Which first world country is less safe(majority of people above the poverty line)?

@thenephariouson

Compared to many other places it is

@1234die @TheLobotimizer

"So with what are we supossed to protect ourselves then?"

Wow, we're in the 21st century, anyone would think that the US still resides in the Wild West Era.

...and if Guns are meant to provide safety , then the US should be the safest place on earth.

@TheLobotimizer @1234die So with what are we supossed to protect ourselves then? bb guns? slingshots? pocket knives? If (HUGE IF) we had to fight against the government, how could we ever fight if we dont have any weapons? You're contradicting your first comment. Are you for or against guns???

@tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die @TheLobotimizer Indeed, druglords have more firepower than you could imagine, I'm from Mexico and I can tell.

@TheLobotimizer

Yeah you definately never went to business school and are naive about how the drug trade works. Guns will be the new heorine...I promise you that. All the illegal arms dealers and smugglers are all rubbing their hands together and cheering for the government right now because they know they're about to seriously get paid

@thenephariouson @Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer @1234die

Ok and what do you call mass shootings? Because it wasn't done with an automatic gun, its no less a form of terrorism?

@Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer You have that backwards my friend supply will decrease first the demand will decrease as well but dis-proportionally to the supply driving cost up but lowering gun numbers.

@Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer @1234die

That was a Terrorist attack, and lets face it, the UK isnt the only country to suffer such attacks is it?

@TheLobotimizer

Ever heard of supply and demand? In case you haven't...when their is shortage (or in this case ban) of something, the demand increases. Therefore people will be willing to pay serious money for these weapons...just like some pay serious money for drugs.

Drugs are smuggled in from other countries, what's your point?

@Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die Guns unlike drugs are expensive regardless of availability. Guns need to be smuggled in from other countries increasing cost as producing them is nearly impossible to hide. An increase of price coupled with extra charges would decrease overall gun numbers.

@Double_Wide @TheLobotimizer @1234die Because everyone was not carrying an assault rifle?

@1234die @TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker In first world countries laws are upheld. Drug cartels rule parts of Africa. This means that regardless of if guns are banned in the country or not the warlords have the power.

@TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die So the lives of people in less developped countries are less important? You dont care about them? Then you sir are whats wrong with people.

@TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die Why does the UK have such a big problem with Violent home invasions?

@TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die

Right because guns (much like drugs) are illegally floating around on the street and smuggled into the country. This will only boost the undergroud economy...

@tomservo51 @TheLobotimizer @canuckbiker @1234die I said criminals are far less like to have guns IN FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES where guns are banned.

@TheLobotimizer @tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die What's your point?

@tomservo51 @canuckbiker @1234die @TheLobotimizer Mexico is not a first world country

@canuckbiker @1234die @TheLobotimizer Ever heard of Mexico?

@Skele7or @1234die @TheLobotimizer Pretty much Canada US, Australia, Western Europe and Japan and korea.

@Skele7or @1234die @TheLobotimizer The uk is the most well know, their laws are insane and alot of european countries are almost the same, can't name them all and i wont bother trying.