Nintendo wanted to shut down EVO Super Smash Tournament

EVO founder Joey Cuellar says Nintendo not only wanted to deny Smash Bros. streaming, but also the event itself.

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Earlier this week, Nintendo tried to deny the organizers of the Evolution Fighting Game Championships the rights to broadcast the Super Smash Bros. Melee, a decision that was later reversed after community backlash. EVO founder Joey Cuellar told competitive gaming and eSports show Live On Three, hosted by GameSpot’s Rod Breslau and Twitch’s Marcus Graham, that Nintendo also tried to shut down tournament itself.

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"They were trying to not only shut down the stream, but shut down the event, the Smash portion," Cuellar said on the show. "It's their IP, they can do what they want. They didn't present us any option to keep it open. We tried to wig-wam our way through it, and they were fine with just shutting down the streaming portion of the event."

Fans were upset about Super Smash Bros. Melee's removal from the stream schedule earlier today, particularly after supporters helped raise almost $95,000 for charity earlier this year to see the game included in the tournament.

Within hours of Nintendo’s decision to shut down the stream, fans worldwide of the fighting game community and competitive gaming community made their voices heard, trending “#FreeMelee” on Twitter and earning the #1 story overall on Reddit. Cuellar says that the community alone is what got the Smash Bros. stream back on.

"We did nothing on our end. It had to been the bad PR they were getting in conjunction with the power of the Internet. We're grateful to everyone that contributed to making Nintendo make a great decision for the fans worldwide."

EVO 2013 is this weekend at the Paris Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, and can be watched live on TwitchTV. GameSpot will be at the show and providing live coverage on the GameSpot's eSports portal.

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Huh... interesting... not gonna make me watch those tournaments though. Probably no items and all Fox players, completely ruining the innovative and fun nature of the game...

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Nintendo are not very smart people. They should be grateful that EVO was promoting their game at all, because it isn't EVO material really. It's too unbalanced for competitive play.

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Am I the only person confused as to why the hell they are playing Melee?

they have heard about brawl and it's "Better in every single way" take on things right?

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@VenkmanPHD People still play it because it's better.

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@VenkmanPHD Better in every way like random tripping?

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@dtshakuras @VenkmanPHD That and the specials are very unbalanced.

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Love how this article CONVENIENTLY missed out on some details.

Nintendo likes being aware of what people are doing with their IPs, such as streaming a big even like EVO. Nintendo didn't give their consent at first so they were upset and unsure of the situation. However, once everything was cleared and they were in the know, they gave their consent.

I can completely understand what they're coming from. People like being in the know, they want to make sure they understand what's going on, especially if personal property is involved. I won't say they were in the right by preventing the streaming or wanting to ban the event, but it was justified in a way.

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@Flame30 People brought their own consoles and games they bought with THEIR OWN money to stream the game using their OWN equipment. What they want to do with the game they own is their own damn business not Nintendo's

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Why would they block streaming of some1 playing their game?! Isn't it free publicity?

I feel i'm missing some information here cos the story doesn't make logical sense atm.

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@AshTrai Because they couldn't make any money off it...

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@AshTrai The article failed to mention that this was caused by the legal team not being made aware when EVO first asked permission to run the event. They only saw Nintendo property being used at a public event without Nintendo being made aware, which is enough of a reason to try and block it. Once the legal teams had been made aware that EVO had asked permission the problem was solved. A URL was posted somewhere down this comments section with a much clearer article about what happened.

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@Vodoo It was Nintendo of AMERICA who tried to block EVO. Specifically, their legal department.

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At some point, I have a feeling the ESA will be trying to lobby for some kind of legal BS to bring these tournaments under more control of the publishers. As much as I love the idea of eSports (maybe), you can't keep doing something like this without the people who make the games wanting to get a slice.

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@spoonybard-hahs People BUY those games, and it's free publicity. What more could they ask for... ? If that happens, they better provide the game for free, lol.

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@twztid13 Money from the event.

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@twztid13 @spoonybard-hahs That and ad revenue and entrance fees from participants.

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@spoonybard-hahs @twztid13 Oh, I didn't realize they charged people. The visitors, I presume? I can see why they'd want to get in on that, and I agree with your initial comment.

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Free press for one of your IP's and you wanted to shut it down. Good job Nintendo.

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Again something peredellyvayut

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Nintendo management needs to be fired ASAP, this is just further proof that those in charge of the company are completely out of touch with their customer base and the gamer community in general.

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@SciFiCat Funny how it's the gamers who say that, yet at the same time, the other side proves to be just AS out of touch with themselves over what they want from this one company.

I'm not saying Nintendo was right morally in doing this (though legally they did, but that's another story), but I think this situation (and others) is filled with irony no matter how you put it.

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http://s24.postimg.org/fxc1vbdo1/Preview.jpg

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@corrus And you called GSJones out for spamming...

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@nintendoboy16 @corrus You mean the guy who had post few times post the same thing like some robot i had post this only once

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@nintendoboy16 The fact is he's posting this once doesn't make it spamming. Making fun of people doesn't automatically mean spamming.

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@corrus Oh and you haven't posted similar links making fun of people before?

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New Feedbackula, I see it now.

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@nintendoboy16 Username is nintendoboy, why am I not surprised

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They did it because Brawl and that new SSB game are their flagship titles and they want gamers to move on. Purely a business decision.

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@AuronAXE No. Nintendo blocked MLG from streaming Brawl in 2010 too. It isn't about wanting gamers to move on. Their legal department just doesn't like these things.

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@AuronAXE lolwut? No, they did it because no one was giving them money.

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They're just mad that people liked Melee more... also because they're being brats. If someone is mass producing bootleg copies of your game, please, do something about it. But when all the people that supported your game want to have a tournament on the biggest stage for fighting games, be happy. Especially since I'm sure a LOT of people are still frowning saying that Smash is just a party game and doesn't belong there. This is a great opportunity... but you know, be pricks and say "NO, that's OUR game and you can't broadcast it... OR have the tournament!"

Careful Nintendo, you don't want to be the new "F*** EA!" or XBONE! We want to love you but... this is a great way to ensure we don't.

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@GlaciusXL Too late, Nintendo has been a similar position for a long time now, otherwise people wouldn't have thrown a fit over Bayonetta 2. Even if they change their ways, I don't see gamers doing the same.

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I really dont get banning public content of video games. Its free god damn advertising. If your really that concerned about people making a profit for it, do it yourself.

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(slow claps)...good job Nintendo (slow claps)....good job...

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LOL Nintendo.

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Nintendo, please don't make me hate you.

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that's weak Nintendo smartin up

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I'm thinking that Nintendo's legal team tries to stop anyone from using Nintendo's intellectual property without consent. Once the PR team takes a look at it, they give the legal team the go ahead to okay it. Most of these people that use Nintendo IP might want to just avoid the hassle by contacting Nintendo first. Unless they're using the old adage, "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." Just like Vanilla Ice back in the day.

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@ominous_prime They did contact Nintendo first. But they avoided the legal department since they tend to kill things unconditionally. That applies to most companies.

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@Strider8009 Not siding with anyone... I'm just not defending Nintendo's ridiculous practices either.

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Maybe Nintendo tried to pull it because they know SSB is not a fighting game and fans of any other fighting series make fun of SSB fanboys for thinking they can sit at the same table.

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@hockeybub89 Are you really trying to make other fighting game fans look like a bunch of snobs?

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not even microsoft does that. They fully support esports and realize its basically free advertisement for their games and systems. Nintendo is really out of touch with the core gamer. More so than even Microsoft. At least they listen.

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Yeah Microsoft would never put restictions on their games and reverse their decision based on public backlash.

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Nintendo loves to play the character Jekyll and Hyde.

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NINTENDO MISTAKES:

- poor name for new console

- region locking

-Trying to ban lets play + most other videos involving their games on YOUTUBE

- trying to remove Smash Bros from EVO

I understand that the WiiU is back-words compatible but besides that, Ninentdo seriously needs to get into the modern era

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Nintendo should have been happy that the Gamecube Super Smash Bros melee is still being played in a high profile way in 2013. Long after the Gamecube era ended.

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