Nintendo Explains Why The New 2DS XL Exists

Reggie Fils-Aime says the New 2DS XL is for consumers who want something "in between."

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Nintendo recently announced another model in its long-running 3DS line: the New 2DS XL combines the screen size and clamshell form factor of the 3DS XL, the built-in NFC capability of the New Nintendo 3DS, and the budget price associated with the 2DS.

With so many different iterations of the console now available--not forgetting the standard 3DS or the New 3DS--some people have wondered why the New 2DS XL exists at all.

Now, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime has said the device is for consumers who want something "in between" the 2DS and the 3DS XL.

"The Nintendo 2DS really focused on that entry level gamer," he told Time. "The four-, five-, six-year old that is just getting into gaming, but wants to play Mario Kart, wants to have a Super Mario Bros. experience, wants to play Pokémon. And we feel with Nintendo 3DS XL at $199 that it's a fully-featured product, that it is, if you will, the Cadillac of handheld gaming. And then we heard from consumers, 'Boy, I wish there was something in between.'" That's why the company decided to make the 2DS XL, says Fils-Aime.

The executive had previously said the that the device "still packs the same power" of the New Nintendo 3DS XL.

The Nintendo 2DS originally launched in 2013. Billed as an entry-level device for children, the system features two screens but no clamshell hinge and no 3D capability. It launched at $130, before Nintendo cut the price down to $80 / £80.

The New 2DS XL, meanwhile, will launch on July 28 in North America and Europe, priced at $149 / £133. Australian players will get it earlier on June 15, costing AU $200.

The announcement of this system came not long after Nintendo launched the Switch. The system debuted in March and has sold 2.74 million units by Nintendo's latest count.

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Kill this off! We dont need two portables.

It will make the switch sell more.

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I'm blind in one eye and thus have no parallax. They made this for me. :)

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@pbastanchury: But...you can use the 3DS without the 3D...

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@SyntaxBananaZ: But...he/she will save $50 on a feature that will not be used...

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@SyntaxBananaZ: Of course I can -- and do. But its nice to have a device that plays all the 3ds games without constantly reminding me that there's something I'm missing.

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@pbastanchury: The only thing you're missing is headaches.

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I'm glad it shows Nintendo is still invested in the platform

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I'm going to buy this for the wife she doesn't like the 3d feature and loves Mario kart on the Wii and wii-u.

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@zero_juice: Boooo-urns, 3D is great on a New 3DS

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I agree with the regular 3DS but on my new 3ds i always leave 3D on. It's really really good 3D

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This is why they stopped making the mini nes

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the mouth of nintendo speaks again.

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@gelgoog2: Next time they open the Black Gate for him to come out and give an announcement, we need to sneak in there and restart NES classic production.

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This is just a way for Nintendo to keep the price high on the New Nintendo 3ds XL. What they should have done instead is give it a price drop already. That is what people really wanted.

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@romeothebeast: They're well know for doing the opposite of what people want.

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@johnlewis107: lol!! You ain't lying! I used to love Nintendo and really enjoyed my Wii U but I am done with them for awhile.

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@romeothebeast: It's more of a way to discontinue the 3ds. More profitable with no 3d. Same system, easier to develop for. And they get an easy last-stand .money maker for the console before they completely Switch;)

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@Zzshock: Hey...I see what you did there! -_- lol

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Nintendo always loses the console war (post NES), but they have always won the handheld war. The DS is a great system. The Castlevania games alone are enough to own one.

With the Switch, they will win the console/handheld hybrid war by default. It was a good business move. If your system can't compete in specs area, cross the line over to the handheld market.

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@pork7: If you are going by sales when the systems were the latest gen at the time, then the SNES and first Wii also won in their gens. If you are going by just the positive reception of "true gamers," or even the amount of top selling games, then the SNES at least won. Also a handheld console is still a console, you're thinking of "home console" vs handheld console.

People keep saying the switch is a hybrid but it isn't, that is just the incorrect advertisement to fool people. It is a mobile class device that uses a top-end mobile GPU, so it's just a handheld system. Almost any mobile device can be docked/streamed to a bigger screen, that doesn't make it a home console or hybrid, or then every tablet, laptop and phone is hybrid. It's truly a successor to the 3DS/2DS even though they won't admit it.

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@KaonGheta: this. I wish people would accept the fact that it is a handheld which "can" be played on your tv also. Just because Nintendo is trying to say the opposite doesn't mean it's true and people are fools to believe them.

No one is buying Skyrim again or Fifa to play this on the tv. The only reason to get a shittier version of a game on the Switch is for portability and versatility.

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@KaonGheta:

Idk what you mean by "mobile-class". Home console vs handheld isn't dictated by how powerful the hardware is, it's dictated by how it's used.. Yes, it has tablet hardware. However, it docks and connects to a TV. Supports traditional controllers.

It's designed to be played sitting on the couch, with a controller in hand in front of a TV, or on the go. Therefore it is a hybrid.

If it build a desktop PC with mobile parts, it doesn't make it a "handheld" it makes it a weak desktop PC.

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@grimakis: most people are using it as a portable. Better versions of games will be on pc or other consoles. The main selling feature is It's portability.

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@Zzshock: Source for: "most people are using it as a portable."

"Better versions of games will be on pc or other consoles."
-Better versions of Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Star Fox, Metroid, and Pikmin won't be on other consoles and PC. Nintendo is known for their IP. Switch is the next home console. There will be no other successor to Wii U. This straight up replaces the Nintendo Home Console.

The Switch is a hybrid. It isn't nearly as portable as a 3DS, it's rather large.

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@grimakis: Nintendo has no home console. They have 2 mobile consoles, one of which can be connected to the tv. Call it a hybrid if it makes you feel better. Nintendo is. Because they want to charge $400 for a portable, they call it a home console. They call it a home console so, the can sell games for $80. And yet, all their marketing shows it as a portable device, and the reason why It's selling is because it is a portable device. And because no one had a Wii U for Zelda...it's a handheld Wii U. And It's a brilliant device. It's what the Wii U should have been. But, It's not really a home console. You don't even need the dock to play games, to play online. The dock has no computational power, hard drive or Ethernet port. It just is a A.C. adapter that can re-route the display to your tv.

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@Zzshock:

What currency are we in? Canadian Dollars?

Call it a portable if it makes you feel better.

There is no indication that Zelda is selling "because it's a portable device". There is no doubt that the system is portable, however it's not a handheld console in the traditional sense. It is a hybrid. IT JUST IS.

The Switch is not convenient to bring around, it doesn't fit in the pocket. It supports 4 players on one device unlike any other "handheld" ever made in the history of video games.

Let's remember you used the words "handheld" in your first post.

Metaphor: You've only seen Desktop PCs and Tablets, and then someone shows you a 17" Gaming Laptop. Immediately you said "look it's a tablet!". Why do you say that? "Because it's portable!"

Hybrid:

of mixed character; composed of mixed parts.

The Switch can be played on battery power, on it;s own screen - Handheld

It can be connected to a TV and support many players on one device - Console

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@grimakis: a mobile phone can be connected to a tv. Do you call it a home console then? Or a hybrid? How about a laptop or tablet? They can also be connected to a tv which makes them consoles or hybrids, right?

If Nintendo released the exact same console to spec(As the Switch), but it wasn't portable it would be about the same power as the Wii U. And It would fail miserably. Because it would be redundant. But, because they made the console portable it is successful...so far. Leave it in your dock and call it a home console if you want though, because let's be real here, you're just replaying Wii U games or experiencing them for the first time because you never bought a Wii U. And if that's the case, you bought it because It's portable;)

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@Zzshock: No. There's more to it than just "connecting it to a TV".

While docked it's actually overclocked, and runs at 1080p, whereas in handheld it's running at 720p. So the performance has a tangible difference from handheld mode to docked mode.

No portable consoles support local multiplayer on a single console, with multiple controllers. That is strictly something which has been limited to PC/Console. Switch operates that way. A PSP connects to TV but it doesn't offer split screen multiplayer.

The Switch when docked offers a gaming experience functionally identical to a home console. An iPhone connected to a TV does not. A PS Vita connected to a TV does not. A 3DS connected to a TV does not. A Switch does.

I have purchased the Switch and not the Wii U, true enough. Not because it is portable, but because it is the future of Nintendo. For a long time I was waiting for two games to come out on Wii U that would make it a "must buy" for me.

Zelda and Animal Crossing. When it became apparent that Animal Crossing would not come to Wii U, and Zelda would be on Switch, Switch became the console I was holding out for. You see I already have a high end gaming PC and a PS4, so I wasn't in need of a Wii U.

The reason I didn't get Wii U is because the games didn't come. Now with Mario Kart and Zelda already on Switch, and plenty more ports coming, it becomes more and more evident that the Wii U was a mistake and I'm glad I didn't buy it. And don't get me wrong I enjoy being able to bring the Switch around and about, but it isn't truly a handheld. I have yet to take it out of my house and enjoy the true portability. The battery life is quite bad, and isn't meant to played for long in handheld mode. It's large and requires a special carrying case just to tote it around. You wouldn't be able to just toss it in a bag like a 3DS. So far I've just played it on the toilet in portable mode.

It is in a distinct class of gaming console that is fundamentally different from every handheld that Nintendo has made starting with Game and Watch LCD games all the way to 3DS. Why are you trying to categorize it in such a way that it is the successor to the 3DS? It clearly isn't.

Of course the raises the question, what is to happen to the 3DS? It probably will fade away with no true successor. A shame since dual-screens were quite nice.

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Havig a 6, 5, and 4 year old at home, this means i'll probably have to buy 3 of them. Was waiting on this for them. Now i can retire the old 2ds. Juat wish it didnt have the clam shell. They will break them. Lol.

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"Hey I want something in between" Said NO GAMER EVER!!!

They always do this, they put a handheld console and make 15 iterations of it. Its like freakin Jordans, a new one every week, so you can NEVER be up to date. This is sad, Nintendo this will fail, just like the crappy Switch will fail. Switch is hot now because its new, but will fail fast. Look at the Wii and Wii U. Hot for the moment due to its gimmicks but ultimately failed due to non third party support and under powered. Just go the way of Sega and put/make games for other consoles.

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@casshan01: The Wii was actually a success, but it came in 2nd place to the PS2, by a huge margin. It is true once the gimmick wore off, the Wii became a paper weight in short order.

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@pork7: GameCube, Xbox, ps2 were in the same genetation. Wii handily beat Xbox 360 and ps3 in sales in It's generation.

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@casshan01: Hahaha! My toughts exactly, I took care to read through the comments before saying that myself cause I was pretty sure someone did!

The real idea is the fact that it was probably too hard for stores to "upsale" from a 2DS to a 3DS XL at more than a 100$ (canadian) price tag difference.

People are attracted to the 2DS for its price first but if there'd be a "in-between", it would make it easier to upsale a bit, hence make more profit.

But don't make it feel like there really was such a demand from the gamers themselves.
It's a marketting strategy to make customers spend some more!

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@casshan01: But a lot of gamers would agree to this because it really isn't an in-between system. If you want the 3DS XL, you can now choose to take out the "stupid 3D gimmick" and save money. Before the 2DS was a downgrade but now it isn't, it's a better option lol.

and you cry about never being up to date and saying it is a fail move, but PC does this x100 and outperforms and outsells any other computing device, and is the best gaming device.

and lastly, the Switch may go the same route, but it is still a wayy better idea than both the Wii/Wii U and none of it's ideas are gimmicks like focusing on motion remotes was and 3D is. and it is the successor to the 3DS really and that system can be a top seller with just Pokemon being on it.

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@casshan01: Reggie Fails Aime has no idea what ppl want. He should be removed from his position.

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@blkmac: That's literally my one gripe against Nintendo

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@blkmac: Nintendo is trying to CREATE demand/needs instead of listening to their customers and supply them what they ask for...

It's a bit like Apple...

Do people really wanted the "Touchbars" that much on new Macbooks?

Kudos to them for being innovative and try to "create" but sometimes I think they just try too hard and miss the targets...

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@casshan01: its not intended for gamer of now. It for introducing younger kids to games. 2ds was a life safer in my my house. Now this will for my younger 2. The older one is now 7. He can finally have a 3ds. They have a warning that 3d can harmful to 6 and under eyes. So thats were the 2ds fits in. They should just said that.

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@casshan01: Um, what? The Wii was the best-selling console of its generation and the Wii U was never hot, even at launch. The Switch has one of the highest attach rates of any console at the moment. I'll agree that the 2DS XL seems to exist for a non-existent market, but saying the Switch is going to die is blatantly ignoring facts.

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@armadeon: No its not

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@casshan01: What a well-said and thought-provoking response. I applaud your effort.

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@armadeon: Cut him a break , the Nintendoom crew has seen dark days lately, not only the Switch is a record breaking success, but Zelda and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold very well too, not to mention 3ds its still doing healthy, not they have literally nothing left and have to hope that some miracle comes and brings down Nintendo ;)

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@maximimon: Record breaking success lmao lmao!!!! You funny. Nintendo makes new console, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox, Smash Bros games (same games every console just a new update), System Fails. Nintendo goes and rinse and repeat. Thats been the cycle since the original wii. Stop pretending to think that crap works. Join the rest of the world who left that underpowered kiddy ish behind.

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@casshan01: Do you actually play video games, or does your coal black heart only spend time time arguing on the internet? Let the hate flow through you! Did Nintendo touch you on your bathing suit area when you were a little boy?

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@casshan01: I don't remember the Wii ever failing (if it did the PS3 and X360 would have too)

Man, hating Nintendo is hard isn't it, I think you need a rest

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@kinan: Children cant remember anything. When were you guys born 2005? Now run along and go play in the sandbox.

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