New God of War: Why Kratos Is in Norse Mythology Now

It's the same Kratos, he's just moved to Scandinavia.

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God of War made a big splash at Sony's E3 press conference, where it surprised us with its quieter moments, a change in perspective, and Kratos's fatherhood. Director Cory Barlog joined GameSpot on its live E3 stage show, where he talked about Norse mythology.

Barlog talked about how each culture's mythological belief system coexisted with one another and were all "separated by geography." That suggests Kratos likely took a trip from Greece to Norway, where new gods and mythology thrived. However, despite its Norse setting, Barlog notes that Kratos isn't in "the viking era."

"A lot of people think Norse, they think viking, but there's really this amazing prehistory--the migration, and then prior to that, the pre-migration era," Barlog explained. "In the viking era, they always talked about, 'The gods have abandoned us.' Thor and Loki and Odin all walked the Earth at one point, but they're not around any more. [The vikings] fight for them, but they're not there. This idea that we're at is saying, 'We're at a prehisory point, where gods did walk the Earth, when monsters were real, before they became extinct.'

"It's a fun space to be in because it allows us to paint our own image of Norse mythology as opposed to anyone else's," Barlog said.

In the same interview, Barlog talked to us about how having a child helped him reinvent Kratos and the God of War series.

"You have a kid and it kind of changes the way you see things and how I approached problems creatively," Barlog said. "And I thought, 'There's some fascinating potential here for what Kratos would be like if given a second chance.'"

You can also read our interview with Barlog about the challenge of making people take Kratos seriously.

In other God of War news, original Kratos voice actor T.C. Carson is not set to return in the new game. It's Stargate SG-1 actor Christopher Judge who has taken over as the angry Spartan. Additionally, the new God of War is not set in an open world, though Barlog says it is "open."

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navidhaghighi

this game will absolutely ruin the masterpiece series that we once knew...

how can a child humanize a monster like kratos? kratos had child before,and he didn't become the coward he is right now.

i want the kratos who relentlessly murdered every being he saw. not this father of the family kind of shit.

i'm sure we all want that old angry kratos

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Arsyad00

no more gods in greek... so he move on to other mythology

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billpoul

I want Greek mythology back.

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angrycreep

So we not gonna see a battle between Thor and Kratos?

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Trev786

This game can't come out soon enough. So happy they threw that fixed camera into the garbage.

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dmblum1799

If they had guts, they'd make one where you kill Jesus. I guess it wouldn't be much of a fight. Then God the father and the holy ghost would be the epic boss fights. I guess you could go through all the apostles but that would be a bloodbath.

Just kidding, I like GOW and look forward to this new take.

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juyan16

@dmblum1799:

Dude, didn't you see Passion of Christ? Jesus knows how to a beating and keep on ticking.

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Mogan

@dmblum1799: God of War: Scientology.

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ChunkyDrawers

@Mogan: God of War: Reality

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Mogan

@ChunkyDrawers: Is there where I could make a joke about there being no gods to kill in that game?

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dmblum1799

@dmblum1799:

Actually, thinking about this, you could do a GOW with all the Abrahamic religions: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. So he could fight Moses, Abraham, etc. then Mohammed and whatever else is in the Koran - how would that not be crazy awesome?

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nikon133

... and we already know why gods stopped walking earth. Kratos moved north and went postal :)

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asakapala15

Can't wait to kill odin's sons!

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tmthywtsn

"Why is the new Kratos in Nose Mythology?"

That's simple, he butchered everything in the Greek mythology...what was left to be done there.

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Heqteur

@tmthywtsn: The question was more about "Why did he went in the Norse Mythology RATHER than any other". Sometimes, you have to spend a little second to make sure you understand the question before saying it's simple.

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Tanares

@tmthywtsn: If he's in Nose mythology, you better not get all snotty about it. I hope they don't blow it. This is a runny gag.

Boogers and such.

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monkeypukefight

@Tanares: nicely done, good sir. My hat off to you... Lol

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MarcTheHeretic

I still wish it was a new protagonist but everything around Kratos looks really interesting so I'll give it a chance.

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PS2fweak

@marctheheretic: Yeah, there is something so strange about seeing Kratos like that, but I'm definitely interested in what they've shown off and talked about. If they can pull this off, I'll give them so much credit.

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DAOWAce

I'm down. Love Norse mythology more than I do Greek.

Now if only it came to PC.. and wasn't called "God of War". The hell is it with this trend of re-using the original title and causing chaos for consumers?

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djwood84

@DAOWAce: If it was on a different system, had a different name and was about baking pies, it wouldn't be God of War. Get onboard or get over it.

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DAOWAce

@djwood84: Console fanboy?

I do not understand people like you; go troll elsewhere.

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MarcTheHeretic

@DAOWAce: They're basically saying it's continuing the series in every way too so there's no reason for the title.

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GregoryBastards

holy shit odin and thor are about to be murdered rather brutally by a bald guy.

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Iemander

What's the point here. You change everything about God of War, from the characters, gameplay, theme, everything. So why is it still called God of War? Just create it as a new IP damnit.

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cornbredx

That's the wrong question to ask. You should have asked "Why does it not play like God of War anymore?"

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Heqteur

@cornbredx: Because making a game franchise is an eternal battle between listening to the fans who wants inovation, new gameplay and those who eternally wants to play the same game.

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OBSIDIAN_BORN

I am down for having Kratos in Norse mythology!

But not the father/son story B.S. or the seemingly lame gameplay mechanics. I hope the kid dies in the beginning.

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oflow

Assassins Creed - Mythology.

Gotta kill them all!

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RogerioFM

The answer is nanomachines son.

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toffifee

Why these developers need to explain why they do games a certain way, I will never understand. The video showed a kinda Last of Us vibe mixed with God of War. Barlog probably liked how games like The Last of Us are and wanted to mix it with God of War for profit. That's it.

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soraky

I don't get it, and no one mentions it any where so maybe I missed something, but...

SPOILERS for God of War 3:
Didn't Kratos die?..
END OF SPOILERS.

So how is this happening?

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cvfan

@soraky: **Spoilers** If you watch all the way through the ending of God of War 3 it shows his body missing with a trail of blood from where he fell. If you look at the new model for Kratos he still has the scar on his belly where he was impaled by the Sword of Olympus.

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RogerioFM

@soraky: I'm more interested in knowing how the World survived.

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Heqteur

@RogerioFM: That's super easy to answer. Greek explained the whole world they knew with their own god. When all their wars and myths hapened, a lot more hapened elsewhere in the world without them even knowing. Greek mythology is about the "greek world", since Greek from the antique era never went around the whole globe. Rinse and repeat that with every mythology and you have an explanation why "destroying the Greek world" didn't have to affect everything in the universe.

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juboner

@heqteur: Yeah its their take on, or around, the same time period, people seem to have trouble understanding this.

There is some truth in mythology, pre flood, Gods having sons from human women. The fallen angels where seen as the gods, hero's like Hercules where offspring from the fallen angels and human women, the nephilim.

In the book of Giants, Enoch describes the nephilim as the hero's of old or legend. I'm sure they where celebrities that had achieved magnificent feats in the eyes of humans.

Before you make fun and say its all made up, do you think ancient people where dumb, do you think they would have any reason to make up all this mythology for no reason, just from their imaginations? Unless they where tripping 24/7 on hallucinogens, I see no reason to take what they have written down as completely made up.

It fits in with what the bible says happened pre flood. The Bible says very little on the subject but its easy to put it together. The ancient Greeks must have had the info passed down to them, not to mention the rest of ancient cultures who had similar mythology stories. Almost every single ancient culture has a flood story, so does this make it mythology, or does it give it more credibility?

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BloodLine52

@juboner: dude, the bible was translated from a dead language that nobody can interpret, just to control people! I hope Kratos kills every "god" in every religion I would pay $60 every dlc too wreck all the bullshit religions with Kratos!

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juboner

@BloodLine52: You need to look into exactly how they translate the NIV Bible. Seriously, you dont know what you are talking about. They go as far back as they can with the ancient Greek and Hebrew and they can translate it very, very good now days.

Before you right it off that simple, you should look into it in depth.

And "just to control people" no, it tells us how to live and prosper in this f'ed up world. Its to help us live , now I am not talking about religion like mormons, jehovas witness, catholics. Religion is added by man to the word by ignorance. Religion is full of legalism, probably the control part you talk about which is not real Christianity. The bible controls us, by your viewpoint, with things like nationality. Nationality is divine establishment, made so evil cannot take over the world. kinda like how the U.S. stops it from spreading. Seriously if it was not for the U.S., the whole world would be under communist and dictator control. Thats in the Bible, so it just tells us how to live the best we can in an imperfect world.

So yes, religion and religious ideas added to the real word, are made to throw people off from the real word of God. You could say this type of incorrect christianity is in fact to control people, but just control them from not getting the real word. Who do you think is behind all religion?

Anyways I am going way too deep for an unbeliever in the first place, I know this wont change your views, you have made up your mind a long time ago i'm sure.

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RogerioFM

@heqteur: That makes, sense I suppose. It's not like I'm trying to be 'realistic' or anything. But I suppose the World was 'bigger' place back then. It's not like the Gods really created Earth, they simply were of a different and more powerful race than humans and thus worshiped.

It's just that, each God really seemed to cause massive destruction, Poseidon caused the seas to rise, Apollo darkened the sky, AdeS spoiled all soy juice in the World and so forth

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juboner

@RogerioFM: Yep the gods where fallen angels, they did not create the earth or universe. Humans surely would have worshiped them. The demi gods where the offspring of fallen angels and man, described in the Bible as the nephilim.

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jeffGost

@soraky: i saw in an interveiw (problably here on Gamespot) that he became some sort of "immortal" who's wandering Earth for eternity as a punishment....

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soraky

@jeffgost: Hmmm... That's acceptable but I'll admit I hope they do mention it somewhat in the game itself.
Thank you!

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RGLGAThrawn

I would have preferred Egyptian mythology over Norse, but this would be fine. In a way, I'm glad they didn't go for Roman, despite being in close proximity geographically...as the gods would feel way too samey.

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AngelCage2

@rglgathrawn: Egyptian? im not that fresh on the matter but i think that would require a travel in time to the past for Kratos. Egyptian Civilization (the first peak, its called "the old kingdom" ) was around 3000 BC-2000BC and i think most of their mithology and religion was already established in that era; their "new Kingdom" was around 1500BC and 1000BC and it was the peak of the egypt civilization (don't know how strong was their religion by then). Now, Geek mithology date from i don't know, 600BC to 600AD? (don't know where in that 1000 years you could put the first God of War) It began some centuries AFTER the peak of Egypt. Norse mithology on the other hand dates AFTER or in the same era of geek mithology peak and its kind of close. (viking age was around 700 AD, i think this god of war is BEFORE the viking age; God of war 1 was somewhere between 600BC and 600AD, new God of War before 700AD)

Anyway, I would love a God of War game bassed on the things in the old testament. Lots of weird shit happening with all the deities on that era

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Tony56723

@rglgathrawn: I see that you did there