Naughty Dog Evaluating Uncharted 4 at 60fps

"We're going to do whatever it takes to make the game we want to make," director Bruce Straley says.

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Although developer Naughty Dog is targeting 60fps for its upcoming action-adventure game Uncharted 4: A Thief's End, the studio won't push the PlayStation 4 game that far if it compromises the overall experience. That's according to director Bruce Straley, who said the demo from December's PlayStation Experience (above) was locked at 30fps, though the game is now achieving a higher frame rate.

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"We're actually above 30, but we locked it [for the demo]," Straley said in the latest issue of EDGE, as reported by Videogamer. "We're going to do whatever it takes to make the game we want to make. If it means we could go for 60 but lose something that would really impact the player's experience, then it's our choice as developers to say, 'Well, we're going to go for the experience [instead of] the 60 frames.'"

The first three Uncharted games have all run at 30fps, but in June 2014, Naughty Dog's Eric Monacelli said the studio was targeting 60fps for Uncharted 4, due to the PS4's significant technical power.

Last year's PS4 game The Last of Us Remastered ran at 60fps, and Naughty Dog has previously spoken about 60fps becoming the new standard for games.

"We hope so," Naughty Dog lead programmer Jason Gregory told GameSpot last summer. "It used to just be that first-person shooters were 60 by default, but a lot of other games didn't feel the need for it. I think we're showing that it does make a difference even in a non-FPS type game.

A Thief's End launches later this year, exclusively for PS4. For more on A Thief's End, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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UNC 4 Graphics looks like a ps3 1080p mortal kombat game. Miserable Sony.

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That's 30fps confirmed for UC4 for me. 1080p/60 fps was possible on the PS3, it's just a matter of sacrificing enough visual detail to do so, and ND would never do that. I guess not even the PS4 was enough to bring about the golden standard of 1080p/60 to consoles.

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NDI, I love your games... I love Uncharted, but please either make something new, a new Jak game or, the best choice of all, give the Jak franchise over to Sanzaru Games.


Either way, lookin' forward to Uncharted 4.

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Just keep their faces on them eh? ;) and fix those floors, ok cheap shot sorry just hoping this game runs bug free

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As long as Indiana Smith or whatever his name is doesn't carry that creepy smile, the game should be okay.

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Disappointed at ND looks like same old engine.

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Console peasants and their 1080p / 60fps HAHAHA.

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OMG 30fps? LOL, how funny!

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HAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahaha! Every WII U game is 60 fps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA

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<< LINK REMOVED >> You sound like a total moran. You realize the Wii U is far less powerful than the PS4, right? It's not even attempting to produce visuals on the level with Unfarted Fore.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Not every game runs at 60 FPS on the Wii U. Not even every high profile game runs at that rate. Wind Waker HD was 30FPS.

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Am I the only one creeped out by that smiley picture they used for the thumbnail for this story?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> OMG no how weird is that?

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As long as it's above 30fps I will be happy, if they cap the frame rate to 30, at least give an option to unlock it... or do like in TLoU PS4, give a 30fps option with more special FX and a more bland 60fps mode (if there are drops around 50 in some areas it should not matter).


Having performance profiles is not that hard, they develop them while testing (with various shader precision settings/etc. like on PC, but they don't give us access to the specific controls).


Anyway, since there is no other way to play the game we will have to go with whatever they choose to do, and it seems the give me all the visuals, even if it means that the game should be capped to 30 crowd cannot be reconciled with the 60+fps or die crowd (or the people in the middle who do not expect a 60fps game to be 60 all the time, nor do they expect a 30fps game to be 30 all the time... which is realistic).

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Evaluation over. 60fps failed.

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30fps is fine as long as it's constant. When it averages 30fps it can be anywhere from 15 to 45. Below 24 is where the illusion of fluidity begins to fail for most peoples eyes. It's really more about keeping a constant frame rate that isn't all over the place. Higher is always going to look better, but not at the expense of quality. UC1 had terrible screen tearing because vsync was turned off to keep the frame rate from dipping too much. By UC2 they had optimized the engine enough to have a decent frame rate and vsync on the same hardware.

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At this point I wonder if MS and Sony should have had an R7 265 or similar GPU in place, we'd be seeing more 60fps games, etc. Some games look and play fine at 30fps, but not all games do, TLOU for PS4 is night and day with 30fps locked and unlocked and plays far better with fps unlocked. I did a little test on Battlefield 4 on PC and the feel and results drastically differ from 30fps, 60fps and 120fps- the more fps the better results (bullets you shoot seem to sync with fps, so the lower the fps the more you miss or get poor hit reg) and Planetside 2 has the same problem when it comes to low fps so hopefully Sony gets Planetside 2 right for PS4.

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I rather have 900p and 60fps .

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I agree %100.

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I guess they're hoping when you stop noticing the graphics and frame rate altogether after about 20 seconds, there'll still be an actual game underneath.

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this is why you don't play console, and those rare exclusive games that try to push the limits of these pathetic console hardware end up exposing the hardware for what it is. not a next gen device... no surprise though. you get what you pay for.

my advice - next time save up for a gaming desktop pc. and on the back end you will not need much money to buy a ton of cheap amazing games on steam. many of which are exclusive to pc.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Dude don't be so arrogant. Some people (including me) love to play games on consoles instead of PC. I have played numerous games on PC but I like consoles more. Also personally I don't care about frame rate and graphics that much. Game should be good both technically and script wise. For example the last of us for PS3 is one of the best gaming experiences I have so I don't care if it ran on 30fps or 60fps.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The only problem with that thought process is many console gamers simply don't care. Once you start gaming on PC, you definitely notice what you were missing, but then it's just about being reasonable. Consoles are cheap and still a bunch of fun. I love my PC, and I love using and creating mods, playing around with dev kits, buying cheap games etc., but the console experience is still worth it if you're a gamer, especially if you're already use to spending a lot of money on gaming hardware.


Sony and Nintendo exclusives don't come to PC, so I always like to get those two at some point. Yeah, I could upgrade something on my PC instead, but I currently don't need to. However, I do need a few awesome console exclusives.


And your point about pushing the limits of the hardware is nothing new to any PC gamer. Sometimes you have to deal with lower than desired visual settings and/or frame rate, and then you need to upgrade and/or cuss out a developer for their poorly optimized game. It's just too much when PC gamers try to pretend like console gamers are the only ones who have to make compromises sometimes. If "PC" was one thing, I would understand, but everybody's getting a different experience and some(probably a lot) are even doing less then current consoles.



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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah, ummm, Nintendoi cares, becasue every one of their games is 1080p 60fps!!!! But your "next gen" crap can't even goabove 30 hahahhahahhahhahahhahah!!!!!!!

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Keep it locked at 30 and just make it pretty kthx. 60 fps is bull for interactive movies.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The Last of Us Remastered says HELLLOOOOOO

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<< LINK REMOVED >> lol, shallow much? ;)

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<< LINK REMOVED >> isnt uncharted exactly that? an interactive movie?

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Games like beyond two souls and heavy rain are like that. Uncharted is a third person shooter.

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Far from it!

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I.E. how much visual fidelity do we have to give up to make it run at a proper frame rate on week hardware. I'd rather have a game with a proper playable frame rate than a pretty, stuttery 30fps game.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> If it runs at a constant 30 fps, you'll get used to it and have a pretty enjoyable experience.

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Um...low FPS tends to be the thing that comprimises fcking gameplay.

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It's still very early in the system's cycle to expect all games to be 1080/60.


Destiny on XBOX 360 runs at 624/30. We didn't complain about the resolution and FPS that last generation console's stuff ran at... why is everyone so horny over it all of a sudden?


Most of you console fatcats don't even understand the concept, so don't bitch.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> console kids wouldn't know what good gameplay feels like though.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> i play on pc with waaaaaay over 60 fps. you can feel the difference. when frames are low you can literally see the effects on screen. some may think 30 is bad. yes. but 60 isn't much better in some games. particularly shooters.


to limit your discussion to a "30 vs 60" is the saddest thing about this. i mean it just proves how uneducated console gamers are about their own hobby.

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To be fair, consoles are just made for an entirely different target audience than pc gaming rigs. Consoles are aimed at the mainstream and there's nothing wrong with that. I totally agree with you though, that they're an inferior experience and that better gameplay also depends on the fps rate.

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>Last year's PS4 game << LINK REMOVED >> ran at 60fps

No it didn't that 60FPS was UP TO, it had drops all over the place

To bad naughty dog has to work with the ps4, having to sacrifice things so it can run

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<< LINK REMOVED >> sorry pc kid actually The last of us fps drops only 2 times in campaign.I quess you are only pc user.I play with all platforms.I am really worried about pc:s exclusives there are no big pc exclusives for ages.I have spend much money on my gaming pc 970sli and so on,the difference against ps 4 its too small.1500 euros vs 400 euros and you have to use 12xglasses to see real difference in games:).Every pc kid just talking about fps and forgot good games.For example 1982 vectrex game minestorm is still very good game after 33 years,but after 5 years nobody even talk about Ryse 4k.Only pc gamers they miss masterpiece games like Demon`s Souls,Bloodborne,Uncharted4 and many other consolese exclusives.Pc guys dont want talk about well made Ps4 games like Metro redux stable 60 fps(like 80 % pc:s cant handle stable 60 fps metro).We old school players we play and dont whine like 12 years nerd race players:)

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Too bad? Naughty Dog was not strictly obligated to make Uncharted for Playstation platforms. If you ask me I'd rather say it's too bad you're jealous. Go back playing your shallow game on your high tech PC again please.

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Naughty Dogs.. Pls. just deliver us the best you can do with this game. Stop listening to fans, Gamers do not know what they want.

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Would be nice if developers gave us a choice to choose from 1080p 30fps to 768p/900p 60fps in the menus.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Well they do .... on PCs... :-)

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Even if they didn't gave you the choice on PC I'm sure someone would find a way, even if that actually made the game less fluid. But hey, if it's 1080/60 it's all good. Who cares? ;)