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More Powerful PS4 Neo Will Launch This Year - Report

Sony's new and improved console could debut a year before Microsoft's Project Scorpio.

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According to a new report, Sony's more powerful PlayStation 4, Neo, will launch before the end of 2016. That means it would arrive well ahead of Microsoft's Project Scorpio.

"Several sources have indicated" this information to Eurogamer's Richard Leadbetter. "If that is the case, it'll be interesting to see how developers utilize its resources, and whether 4K really is the focus. And we can be equally as sure that Microsoft will be watching just as intently as it gears up for its own next-gen roll-out," the report said.

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Sony's Andrew House confirmed Neo just days before E3, at the time also mentioning that it would not be discussed at the event. For its part, Microsoft announced Project Scorpio during its briefing, a system the company describes as "the most powerful console ever made."

Scorpio, which features 6 teraflops of performance, is scheduled to come out in holiday 2017. Pricing has not been announced for the Neo or Scorpio; in both cases, the games that work on PS4 and Xbox One today will also be supported on the new systems.

If Neo is indeed coming out this year, some possible, but not confirmed, venues for Neo's official announcement might include Gamescom, Tokyo Game Show, or Paris Games Week. It might also be that Sony hosts a dedicated event for the unveiling, as it did for the PS4.

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i have said it once i will say it again. sony is screwed on this right now because when the new xbox drops everyone will turn in the ps4 neo for a Scorpio simply because they are power hungry sheep. the spec's for sony console were set in stone along time ago but they did not expect microsoft to answer with a damn super computer.

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@blackamerica: people want sony consoles for the exclusive games above all else. microsoft's exclusives are weak sauce... scorpio will be outsold even by the standard ps4 model.

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@blackamerica: If people were such power hungry sheep like you say they would just buy a PC. There are no specs release for the Neo, yet. Use facts if you are going to bash something. The PS4 isn't much better than the XB1. People are mainly buying the PS4 because they have much better games right now.

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@blackamerica: lol @ super computer... By the time Scorpio launches it will be a mid range pc at best. The pc I currently have already blows it away.

Just lol.

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@turianshepard: Nothing really wrong with a mid-range PC. Just needs a few good tweaks. It's budget low-end PC that gets hammered by scorpio & neo.

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@turianshepard: It'll still be a high end PC at that time. Also, don't forget that consoles outperform PCs of equal power.

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@cfscorpio: They are just optimized better due to specificity.

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@no_one: Exactly my point. I expect them to get a hell of a lot out of 6 tflops on a console.

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@cfscorpio: no they don't, a 750ti has been equal to a ps4 all generation now. A 950 beats it in everything.

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@turianshepard: I'm sorry, did you have a point? The PS4 has less power than those but can pump out some beautiful games.

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@cfscorpio: "Also, don't forget that consoles outperform PCs of equal power"

Whatever you say kid.

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@Simulator_Shock: Of course they do. Try running GTA V on a 512mb RAM computer from 2006/7 like the PS3 did. You can't look at a console from the "raw power" view like you do at PC's. There's a thing called effort and optimization.

They also outperform them price-wise through and through. Build me a 400€ computer from the end of 2013 (when current gen consoles were released) with the size and elegant look of a PS4 (with windows and a more than decent controller included of course) that would play, let's say, the new Doom on 1080p at medium to high settings. You can't, just as you can't do it even now for 300€, not even in America, where the PC hardware parts are way cheaper than in most of Europe.

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@Simulator_Shock: Exactly whatever I say is right. Consoles are specialized gaming computers. They have been getting more out of their hardware limitations for generations. Pay attention, boy.

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@turianshepard: 6 teraflops is more powerful than a gtx 980ti. You got too admit, thats impressive for a console no matter how powerful are gaming rigs are. My 3 1080s poops on everything by the way.

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@kentray1985: shouldn't have bought that 3rd one, officially they only support 2 way sli, and listen to all gamespot's electronic engineers talking about flops like they actually have a fucking clue

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@kentray1985: a 980ti is 6.2 tflop and can be overclocked. It's also been out for well over a year now. There will be over a dozen GPUs that surpass a Scorpio and that's not counting sli set ups. That's the definition of mid range.

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@computernoises: production has started you will have it in November of this years. sony will just have to eat crow and lose this one.

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@computernoises: Technically AMD already confirmed production when they told their investors at a shareholder meeting they had deals in place for 3 new chips for 3 new consoles. Things like this are done 1+ years in advance due to production time and such, so it is incredibly unlikely the chip will suddenly change now, assuming of course the leaked chip was real which it is looking like it is given how many other sources have confirmed it.

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@computernoises: they have confirmed its existence. No way could they go back to the drawing board without it becoming significantly more expensive both for them and the consumer

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@computernoises: Well actually Sony has officially said that the Neo exists. Most likely all the rumors were true due to the source being dev unit specs. The Scorpio rumors were true as well.

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@computernoises: It's not official but multiple sources have confirmed the same specs based on the documents that Sony has sent to developers so it's highly unlikely that the leaks turn out to be false.

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@computernoises: specs have to bet set honestly because Sony sent Dev kits to a lot of developers months ago. they cant go back to the drawing board and make another console to be more powerful then Scorpio

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@computernoises: Unlikely, especially given that it'll be released a year earlier (if this rumor is true), and given other rumors about it being rated at 4.2 TFLOPS.

If these rumors are true, then we'll be in the same situation we are today, but in reverse. Ultimately, the real difference won't be that dramatic, but people will blow it out of proportion.

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@godfather830: Well there will be a difference. At 4.2 tflops the Neo will struggle to output 4K gaming. People are even saying the the Scorpio's 6 tflops might not be enough for 4K gaming.

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@cfscorpio: It is enough for 4k gaming. But trust me when I tell you the games won't look that good. 4k gaming with ultra visual settings requires a beast of a GPU. The new GTX 1080 can't even do it. Highly doubt an AMD powered console can. Chances are we're going to see a lot of 4k 30 FPS games.

I don't know why all the infatuation with 4k. IMO the next resolution consoles should move to is 1440p not 4k.

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@computernoises:

Funny thought.

But no, it won't happen. Specs for both have been revealed and the Scorpio is a LOT more powerful. Sony *could* upgrade the specs and get a year head-start -- but that means Microsoft would ALSO have a year to counter that and STILL be more powerful with the Scorpio.

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I am just tired of these stupid rumors... As long as Sony doesn't announce it, I don't believe it.

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@nurnberg: They already officially said the the Neo exists. You should believe the rumors now. The Scorpio rumors were true.

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lol

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@BabeNewelll: Gabe has spoken!!!!. Bow down you peons!!! for the PC master race sits on the throne of games.

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If PS Neo can output games and more importantly exclusive games at 1080p / 60, I'm getting one.

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@berserker66666: It sure will.

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And gamespot mooching off of digital foundry continues. I reccomend everyone get their info straight from the source over at eurogamer for tech analysis and news.

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bad news for ps4 owners. the sooner they launch neo. the sooner its fanbase will expand in comparison to our current console. So they will sooner be able to dettach from the old one and make some technical excuses to making exclusive to neo games rather sooner that later. If gow 4 for ex. has sp content only available for the neo. sony is done for me. forever!!

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@croxus: I doubt they'd be willing to lose software sales by making Neo only games. Just look at the New 3DS, only a handful of games are exclusive for it. Devs will just make games for PS4 and make the Neo version marginally better.

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@catsimboy: Some devs will just make a PS4/Xbox original version and wont bother making a marginally better version for the upgraded console. I can see that happening a lot

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@gamingdevil800: Yeah that will probably happen too but I'll bet that lots of devs will make tiny barely noticeable improvements just so they can put a "Better on Neo/Scorpio" label on their box.

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@Metallicwolf29: The hardware engineers aren't making the games

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@computernoises: Wii U is pretty good. I'm having a blast on splatoon.

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If Sony makes the Neo as powerful as the Scorpio and launches it earlier they should just put a big umadbro?.jpg sticker on every unit.

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@catsimboy: They can't change the hardware at this point.

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@game_spock: yes they can...its still in development.

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@txuzai: If it was still in R&D, then yes. But sadly no, dev kits were sent out. To change it will cost a lot more money and time.

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@txuzai: It's clear you have no clue about manufacturing. It takes years to design a console and to try to make an 11th hour change would be a major financial blow to all the companies involved. If it's coming out this year then it's pretty much set in stone.

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@txuzai: You can't change the hardware at the last minute, these things takes time and money.

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@txuzai: Development kits were sent to developers months ago and they started making games off them, I honestly doubt they will change much if not anything at all

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@jako998: he is a upset sony fanboy because people told him that sony was doomed. by the way fanboy the system that sony is done building is set for a November release.

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Unless it includes free online multiplayer and the ability to use the Steam Controller, this new model can become the next target device for ransomware for all I care.

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@Jinzo_111887: The steam controller is an abomination i'm sorry. I use a PS4 controller with my PC

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@gamingdevil800: I find it to be pretty good if used correctly, but it does take some getting used to.

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@Jinzo_111887: lol just stick with your PC. Maybe when the new Red Dead comes out, they will release the OLDDDDD game on PC finally. Get another petition going??? xD

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@wtf_666: Red Dead doesn't appeal to me, but it's not like PC doesn't have some games that aren't on consoles. Hatred, for example.

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I refuse to upgrade to either of these "new consoles", as I think it's insulting to anyone who bought a PS4 and Xbox One at their launch. In two and half years we've barely had enough exclusives to warrant their purchase, and now they're telling us that they're launching better consoles already? No thanks. Yes, I realize I can still use them to play whatever games come out, but why would I? I already know them to be inferior products based on their new Scorpio and Neo cousins, so why the hell would I pay for a lesser experience? No thank you.

I'll use whatever money I might spend on console games and dump it into my PC and make it a true beast. At least with Microsoft supporting the PC platform more and more, I won't lose out on much. I think I'll be quite happy with just my great gaming PC and a Nintendo NX going forward.

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@IIIMatricksIII: I agree it's a bad move that will hurt consoles in the long run. There was an opportunity for one of the manufacturers to come forward and say they don't agree with this model for console gaming and that they would have their current console be their main system for its 6 year cycle, then they would release a new iteration of the console that would be more powerful than anything that came before it. This would spell out that if you was to buy one of these intermediate consoles that it would only be more powerful for a small window before the same situation arises again.

Once it becomes a prospect of every 2-3 years you are upgrading if you want to not have a worse experience with gaming, then you have to weigh up the price of a PC and its cheaper games. I think Microsoft know this and are moving to the Windows 10 branding over the Xbox branding, but Sony are making a dire mistake unless they see the future as a streaming service rather than in physical products.

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@jenovaschilld: You make the mistake of lumping together all technology, plus some weird analogy about house bills, into the same pile as console gaming. Sometimes things exist to fulfil a niche, and consoles are one of those things. They are seen by many as something I can buy, plug in and get games for for 5+ years knowing their experience is going to be the same as everyone else's. By changing that single aspect of them you create questions about the product, the key one being 'is it still preferable to own a console, or am I better of getting a PC?' Even if only 25% of people decide it is enough to stop them buying consoles it is still a large enough chunk to lead to the demise of console gaming.

I also look forward to the beginnings of people getting angry that they play a game online at 25-30fps against people who are playing it at 60fps meaning they are, effectively, second class citizens in an area of the market that has never had that problem before.

We've had E3 now and have heard that all Xbox in-house exclusives will also be released on PC, given both use the same architecture now on top of the same operating system their is no reason why they would be released in any state worse than the console version. Sony have been experimenting with streaming technologies and have only not pushed them to the forefront so far as they know most people's internet is not up to the task yet. You are right that the market evolves over time, but in this case I would say the market is evolving to remove the need of consoles and this is going to be a push to make as much money as possible before this end comes.

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@IIIMatricksIII: exactly, they're barely coming out with AAA games on the current generation and now they wanna bring out newer consoles? It just doesn't add up.

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@IIIMatricksIII: Amen brother!

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@IIIMatricksIII: People who bought a PS4 or X1 can try to sell their consoles, or give them to a friend, relative, or goodwill. If they wanted to do that before upgrading, I think they'd only have to do it once as I don't foresee anymore hardware refreshes this generation if console generations remain a thing.

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