More Powerful PS4 Neo Will Launch This Year - Report

Is Eddie troIIing?

A Sony rep already stated Neos primary function is for 4K set-ups and VR, otherwise will function in a similar manner to a regular PS4. If you want a stronger machine wait for the Scorpio, or buy a better P.C.

It might surprise many casual fanbois, but the PS4 doesn't need an overhaul. Not for awhile anyway.

Does it play games better than a good P.C.? No.

But surprise! Neither did a PS2 or PS3. In fact the PS2 was considerably weaker than a GC and XB. And PS3 was, in some regards, a developers nightmare.

Just play and enjoys games

I'm hoping this is a 1080p console. 4K is premature. Not to mention very likely to be expensive.

Consoles right now already have issues at 900 - 1080p. Long load times, frame rate drops, texture pop-in etc etc. Get 1080p right first otherwise all they will really do is transfer all of the issues they have now to the 4K machine.

60fps should be the standard, as should anti-aliasing in my opinion.

What is the point in giving us a 4K console if it will just run all games at 25 - 30fps? I'll take 1080p and 60fps over 4K. Hell I'll take 45 fps and screen tearing over 4K right now.

Eventually console upgrades will be more prevalent than the number of patches it takes to fix an EA game

No way are they upgrading now then, so confirmed it will be significantly underpowered compared to Scorpio. No wonder Sony chickened out of showing it at e3. Cluck cluck

Everyone seems to be going on about how powerful the Scorpio is. Whilst it's true that the Scorpio is shaping up to be significantly more powerful than the Neo, you have to remember how demanding 4K is. This means that Scorpio games will probably look and run the same as Xbox One games. The only difference will be the resolution, and so the Scorpio will be useless to anyone without a 4K TV.

Here's a quote from Phil Spencer: “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don’t have a 4K TV, the benefit we’ve designed for, you’re not going to see. Clearly, you can buy Scorpio, and if and when you decide you want to buy a 4K television to take advantage of the increased performance, obviously the console will be ready for you.”

Personally, I'm hoping that Sony uses the Neo's power for better graphics and higher framerates which seems likely as the leaked specs don't seem good enough for native 4K output on modern games, and none of the leaks have mentioned games outputting at 4K. If this is the case, then I'll certainly consider buying a Neo as I'd take 1080P 60fps with better graphical effects over 4K 30fps any day of the week. As it stands, I have no interest in Scorpio due to its focus on 4K.

Microsoft announces Xbox Scorpio that's VR compatible to affect PlayStation Neo sales

Fine by me. Get PS4 Neo this year, XBox Scorpio next year.

Looks to me like MS won this battle. It looks really shady that Sony is launching a console this year and still not announce it at E3. It shows they were afraid of the Scorpio announcement. Maybe I'm just cynical but that is what it looks like to me. Because the first question Sony would have been asked is how powerful is it.

Both MS and Sony will sell you consoles that will be within +/-5% power of each other. The tech will be old by the time you can buy it, and the consoles will be overpriced. They won't do 4k60 with actual games despite being advertised as such for the next 18 months.

@teg: totally agreed, but this must happen first, i hope everything that MS promess be true, that's will put sonys people in work to make something similar. But we are too far from that right now to speculate

I'll take one.

if ps4 neo runs games at 1080p/60fps ultra settings and releases this year i am buying one with battlefield 1 and titanfall 2.

People argue about the power difference between PS4 and XBO because everyone assumed that 1080p was going to be a given for every game. When PS4 began doing that more regular than XBO, it became a tangible difference between the two consoles.

When I think of Neo and Scorpio trying to do 4K gaming, it's like the PS3 and XB360 trying to do 1080p. Which is even more crazy to think when you realize how PS4 and XBO sometimes struggle to hit 1080p.

Scorpio will be powerful, but at the low end for 4K gaming. Neo; even further behind. Scorpio is going to serve an enthusiast market. Same as the XBO Elite controller. Same as the PSVR, Rift and Vive.

Neither Scorpio or Neo have to sell in volumes like PS4 and XBO. Because these older versions will be selling very fast with lower price points.

MS and Sony have to justify these new consoles with software. Sony has PSVR lined up and E3 was a showcase for that. MS hasn't really given much reason for the masses to upgrade/switch to Scorpio. That's their challenge. Sony can justify Neo with PSVR alone (even though it works on regular PS4 too). However, if they want to move units, they will have to have a comparably lower price than Scorpio and keep the software coming (exclusive or not).

MS typically shove $$$$ towards exclusive games and content. I expect them to use these tools again to push Scorpio. Though I don't like to be bullied into a console through exclusive buyouts of 3rd party games.

Who cares about games, as long as I have the best hardware to show off, I'm good to go :)

With scorpio coming i will probably skip neo....not to get the Microsoft console but to wait for the PS one with the power to play 4k 60fps games in 3 or 5 years whenever...