Microsoft's Xbox One games will be $60

@EndlessArc Your not buying forza 5 your buying DRM the game

@Mugzippit i believe there will be another version of PS4 that will be more expensive , i recall from somewhere that $400 version is their standard edition PS4. As to what the difference will be i have no clue

@Mugzippit Yes M$ is honest and Sony said they don't want to make money LOL. Please they all want to make money, otherwise they wouldn't be in the game industry at all.

@Mugzippit The price difference is about 40 bucks after you count the PS move. the XO will come with the Kinnect bundeled because it is required for basic functionality of the console (voice commands, gesture commands etc...) the PS4 has none of those features and that is why the Move is not required.

@Mugzippit Why? You are suspicious of a company that is out to make money by PLEASING their consumers, rather than a company trying to milk their consumers for every penny?

@AlexFili Explain how, genius... explain how. Discs are dirt cheap to process. It might be a dollar or so to manufacture one single disc. Multiply that by quantities of 1000's, and the price goes down because they get them in bulk. So why would the price go DOWN?

The price of actually CREATING a game goes UP & up & up!! They cost as much as a full blown Hollywood movie now-a-days. I remember when Shenmue was one of the "most expensive" games to produce @ 20 million. Now that's chump change compared to the 100+ million. How do they recoup the cost? By charging $60 per game, that's how.

@beavisj superman 64 was 60$ at least for me

@Grondiggy I liked the Xbox 1 too. I miss those days when Halo 1 came out and there was no ridiculous DRM policies and all. The 360 was good too.

@demonkingx5 Of course, it will follow suit on Sony because remember it's up to the Publisher in the end. And the Publishers will push the digital sales by offering something some benefit like early release. If you think Sony will be much different in this regard you're just convincing yourself.

The approach they have to disc based gaming is much better tho, no question.

@demonkingx5 You can't share your Steam games with any 10 of your friends or family members, however. The sharing of the X-1 games has intrigued a few people, myself included... which I don't see why many haven't jumped on this bandwagon. ANY game in YOUR library will now be instantly accessible to mine if I don't own it.

@allever You are right, but it's a pointless discussion now. Some have accepted it as continuing XB users. Others have rejected it in favor of other companies that give a better deal. I think not too many still have illusions about their right under the EULA.

@allever That depends whether you perceive games as software or as toys.

Software have licences, toys are owned.

@Leonelidas Xbox overlay on TV is a very nice as is instant-switching, PS3 was going to offer similar features but they removed it to cut costs.... though, no rumours of such for PS4 but then the console was kept under wraps for a long time & Sony learnt from its mistakes back at the PS3 unveiling.

Kinect 2.0 is certainly one of the more impressive pieces of technology out there right now.

the cloud features while riddled with question marks do make alot of sense.

My only complaint about the Xbox One is there's no headset included in the box- which is pretty poor!

PS4 is very feature lacking and the launch is certainly going to make the newspapers and possibly watchdog in the UK due to the lack of advertised gaikai etc at launch, but it has cheaper price tag... Luckily I expected £500 for next-gen consoles, so both consoles come in cheaper than expected, I'll personally be going for the Xbox One.

@Leonelidas the other reasons are for tv controller functions and fantasy football things

> wii u

@berserker66666 Nono. It's $60 day-of purchase, and an additional $.66 per day after that. If you don't pay it, the Xbox gives red-rings.