Microsoft: "Absolutely no plans" to release Xbox One without Kinect

Phil Harrison squashes possibility of Kinect-less bundle of upcoming next-generation console.

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Microsoft has reiterated that it has no plans to release the Xbox One without Kinect.

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Corporate vice president Phil Harrison told Metro in a new interview that Kinect is a core component of the next-generation console.

"Absolutely no plans at all," Harrison said when asked if a Kinect-free bundle may be offered. "We think Kinect is an integral part of our platform. All of the magical experiences that you get, both as a games-player and also the way you navigate the system are made even more amazing because of Kinect."

Harrison said that because every Xbox One console will come with Kinect, developers can design projects for the "widest possible install base."

Last week at Gamescom, Harrison said there is no differentiation between Xbox One and Kinect. The two systems are one, he said.

"Xbox One is Kinect," Harrison said at the time. "They are not separate systems. An Xbox One has chips, it has memory, it has Blu-ray, it has Kinect, it has a controller. These are all part of the platform ecosystem."

Microsoft has said that the Xbox One will launch this November for $499/€499/£429/A$599.

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And I still have absolutely no plans to buy that shitty piece of hardware.

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I knew that and don't care. getting it day 1. Innovation ftw. I dont want an upgraded 360. give me new tech.

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Edited By VicariousWolf88

Still gonna buy one! :)

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Well, coming from a company that said months ago "if you want an offline console we have xbox 360" then it is not a constant at all. xD

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LMFAO ! And yet again another lie from MS to the people that still remain loyal to the xbox 1
didnt they say they were going to take if away or somthing like that? lol

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Yes we know Microsoft. Thats okay, let all the douches get your Xbox One, I have no problem with less douches on the PS4.

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@Leeric420 neh, sounds from your comment that they are mostly going to be on PS4

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@quiksilvers123 @Leeric420 Judging by the comments here, I would say they are ALL going to be on PS4

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Of course they wont. They are trying to shove Kinect down peoples throat and force people to use it as a proprietary tool for the xb1.

Personally I couldn't care less. Kinect has been on 360 for like 3 years now and it hasn't managed to have one use in or out of a game. Even all of the Kinect games are garbage. A more powerful version still have the same bottleneck problem as kinect1 does.

Funny thing is Microsoft hasn't even been able to show one single game or use in the real world that actually would make people want it. Ok so you can turn on the xb1 by talking, you can change channels, you can open an app with hand movements big deal. Even the one big game ryse they were touting Kinect support for suddenly dumped it one day and no other game has really even talked about Kinect beyond a little gimmick here and there.

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there is no way they'd release a kinect-less bundle. not anytime in the near future. the biggest issue seems to be maintaining a high degree of support for the device, which can only be likely when a large enough market share owns and uses it.

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Funny too read it don't matter to me because I ain't buying an Xbox-1 just because I'am an Sony guy (it's called taste so chill) also I don't have the money too buy the Xbox-1 or the WII-U I only have money for one next gen gaming system and that's the PS4. Also I don't knock anyone getting an XBOX-1 OR WII-U if people want to buy things with there hard earn money or parents money lol even if it's an XBOX-1 then that's there choice get over it people !

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@KimCheeWarriorX @Crouteru

Your comment might have made sense if the Kinect experience were actually a positive one. The reviews of Kinect games were quite clear in that regards. Kinect sucks, and people hate it.
So this strategy of MS is nothing more than an attempt to force it down our throats

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Everybody is making a big deal about the kinect. Who cares if it has it?! Holy shit, it isn't a big deal. You don't have to use it and even if its used to recognize you, oh well! Is kind of a cool feature rather than having to sign in. Everybody is making this way worse than it is.

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@Baroni88

You seem to be missing the point. The kinect isn't free. And more importantly, it isn't needed for the X1 to operate. MS is making everyone pay for the Kinect regardless of whether you want it or not. With your kind of consumer aptitude, it's no wonder why MS seemingly tries to do such things.

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@htthanh86 @KimCheeWarriorX @jhcho2 You're probably not going to throw away something that cost you $100. Also I can't see how it would have any market value.

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@KimCheeWarriorX @jhcho2 Your logic is not correct, people have X1 doesn't mean they have Kinect since it's not mandatory. They can simply sell it on ebay or throw it to trash and their X1 still run just fine. I guess multi-platforms games in future will need to be put a note on their cover: "hey, this game is great for PS4, but for X1 you NEED Kinect to make it playable otherwise go f*ck yourself"

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Microsoft: "Absolutely no plans" to release Xbox One without Kinect

Me: I have "absolutely no plans" to buy a console with Kinect.

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@picho86 @KimCheeWarriorX @jhcho2 just trying to make people understand why theyre doing things the way they are. after all, so you think its better just going around complaining and bitching every five seconds instead of trying to make people understand so theyll stop their incessant bickering?

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see that sucks.. nobody wants that kinect pos.

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@deton_nation ya i was actually considering getting one down the road after i got a ps4 cause i thought they announced you didn't need kinect... now i won't be getting one ever.

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@CptJohnnyRico Once the sales taper off and begin to slump after the launch and holiday rushes are over, they'll have to consider a kinectless bundle

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@KimCheeWarriorX @jhcho2 You really don't need to copy and paste your comment. It really doesn't do anything positive.

Even though my message is pretty much the same, I at least take the time to personalize my comments.

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@KimCheeWarriorX Most games are developed for multiplatform, neither the PS4 or the Wii U has a similar feature standard with the console. In short, it doesn't matter if Xbox owners have a Kinect, developers aren't going to waste time and resources developing for a peripheral only one console has.

Your excuse is a cop-out by Microsoft, they've wasted a ton of R&D money on something many people don't want, so they're going to get loyal customers and other early adopters to help recoup their losses. Get it yet?

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@KimCheeWarriorX @picho86 @northArrow

Like what? Even a single use will do.

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@northArrow @KimCheeWarriorX thats just an opinion. time will tell if everyone supports your opinion. until then, only time will tell.

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@KimCheeWarriorX We've already seen the extent of Kinect's functionality with the current version. A better camera isn't going to change what it is and what it does.

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@picho86 @northArrow @KimCheeWarriorX although you cant think of a single use for kinect, im sure others could.

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@northArrow @KimCheeWarriorX There are exclusives, I don't think that that's the issue.

I can't think of a single use for kinect. I can't see why developers would care about it.

I don't think how much money they spent on kinect is relevant. What matters is the future, which they screwed with their weird new policy.

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I can't wait to play destiny coop with skype!

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ps fanboys are already here. pretending to be xbox fans, just to spread the hate.

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@At3fD I think all these preorders it starts to become obvious that maybe its everyone not liking Xbox and not just Sony fans. Well they may all be be Sony fans by now but you get what I am saying.

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@At3fD isnt it cute how they pretend to be the opposite just to...um...troll the opposite?

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If it is a integral part of Xbox one, then why does it have the option to unplug it completely?

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Yep.

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And why would MS sell XB1 without kinect? It would retract from the system's unique abilities and I would be a lot less interested in buying it. You get what you pay for. You pay more, you get more, and that has never been more true in this case. I would rather spend a little bit more to acquire a system with a significant technological edge.

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@NetGod Would you pay more for a car if it would be able to paint your toenails?

You pay more, you get more.

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@picho86 @NetGod

If it's a feature my wife likes, then perhaps we would buy it.

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@NetGod @picho86

That's all fine and good. But why must I pay for a feature you like, despite I myself not liking it? We're talking about 'features' here, not the primary function of the product itself.

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@picho86 @NetGod By that logic I should have the choice to pay less to get less.

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@markoswan @picho86 @NetGod When talking about a console it is difficult to do that, but in a lot of cases it makes perfect sense.

Imagine the X1 would have come with a $100 toaster. Would it still be okay? What makes a camera so important?

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@NetGod

There's something called 'options' , and it doesn't appear in Lemming vocabulary obviously. Stop trying to constantly justify all of Microsoft's bad decisions by consoling yourself that they're actually trying to do something good for you.

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@jhcho2

Sounds like something a very bitter fanboy would say.

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@NetGod @jhcho2 have you read what you said? you sound like your better then that , clearly your not though.

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If Microsoft gave a better reason for needing a Kinect, then maybe consumers would be more receptive to having one as mandatory.

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Based on the comments I'm reading, there are a lot of narrow minded people here who hate change. Let's just keep everything the way we know. You all can go hop on your horse and carriage and head for the nearest well for some water.

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@dreamcast210

You mean change for the worse right? The Kinect 1.0 has been around for some time. I think most of us here already have an idea of what a Kinect experience is. And most of us don't like it.

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@dreamcast210 Oh yeah... I wouldn't be able to handle all the changes a $100 gigantic stationary camera will bring to my life. This invention is on par with the wheel.

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game developers design games for multiplatform. they have zero interest (or incentive) to make a game for kinect.

good luck MS, trying to be the new nintendo. you realize 3rd party developers don't make wii games, right? and i don't see MS making a bunch of popular, must-have, 1st party kinect games.

i'll stick with my PC, where i get all the games, and zero drawbacks.

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@wowgrandpa well i wouldnt say theres zero drawbacks , but there are ALOT less compared to the xbone thats for sure. and yes ive tested a PC version of game thats been on the xbone , disregarding graphics it performs SO MUCH BETTER in the online experience , its funny ppl try to says XBLive is better then PSN , which is not the case , they are on par in performance , PS+ had decided to start giving out games for free for its paying members along time before XBLive decided to copy them , and Steam still does great discounts for PC players (IE no monthly sub fee , but still great discounts , so roughly on par with a sub fee depending on how much you get)