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I Game and I Vote: GameSpot AU's Guide to the Australian Federal Election

In the lead-up to Australia's upcoming federal election, GameSpot AU identifies the burning issues for gamers and finds out what both of the major political parties are promising to do about them.

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My fellow Australians, the time is almost nigh to do your civic duty and march on down to vote in the upcoming federal election. But if all this talk of me-too-ism, interest rates, economic management, worms, climate change, and whatnot is starting to send you cross-eyed, then never fear. GameSpot AU is here to cut through the noise and present you with a video game-centric view of everything you'll need to know to make an informed decision on polling day.

That's right, we've picked the three most pressing issues for gamers in Australia and asked the two major parties--the Coalition and Labor--to outline their views, plans, and promises. We'll also put in our own two cents as the GameSpot AU Party, and explain what we would do should we ever get into the Lodge. (Unfortunately, bad timing and several matters still pending in international courts have prevented us from registering as a political party for this election--but next time!) So which party will make your life better as a gamer down under? Who should get your vote? Read on to make your decision!

Australia is without a doubt a great nation, but it's not as welcoming if you're the creators of Soldier of Fortune: Payback. Or Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. Or Manhunt. That's because those three games--among many others--have been the victims of Australia's games-classification system courtesy of the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC). In Australia, the highest classification currently allowed for a video game is MA15+. Classification for other forms of entertainment media, such as films and DVDs, can go up to R18+, or even to X18. What the lower ceiling of classification for video games means is this: Any game considered by the OFLC to have content that is unsuitable for someone under the age of 15 is refused classification. That means it becomes illegal to sell, import, or display said game in Australia. Soldier of Fortune: Payback was the last game to be refused classification down under. Others include Reservoir Dogs, BMX XXX, Manhunt (after being approved and on sale for six months before reclassified), Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude, Postal, Postal 2, and NARC. (The Grand Theft Auto games listed were eventually made available for sale after some content changes by the developer).

Soldier of Fortune: Payback. NOT coming soon to an Aussie store near you.
Soldier of Fortune: Payback. NOT coming soon to an Aussie store near you.

To be fair, Australia's federal government is not solely responsible for games classification in this country. All of Australia's various state and territory attorneys general--as well as the federal attorney general--jointly make the decision on classification levels for different forms of media. This National Classification Code is what the OFLC then uses to make its decisions on ratings. Nevertheless, given that it governs our nation, the federal government is important in terms of its opinion about an R rating for video games. Here's the question we sent to both attorney general Philip Ruddock and shadow attorney general Senator Joe Ludwig:

Australia currently has no R18+ classification for video games. Do you support the future introduction of an R18+ rating? If not, why? If you do support an R18+ rating, will this be an issue you will be pursuing should you win government?

Their responses are below.

The Coalition: Attorney General Philip Ruddock
Philip Ruddock's office did not respond by GameSpot AU's deadline for this feature. But considering that Ruddock--along with the Local Government Association of Queensland--worked together to ultimately ban Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure in Australia in early 2006, we're guessing his views on introducing an R18+ rating won't be too forward-thinking.

Labor Party: Shadow Attorney General Joe Ludwig
"Australia's classification regime is, broadly, divided into two different streams: classification and enforcement. While--under the current arrangements--it is the responsibility of the Commonwealth to provide for the classification of materials, it is generally the responsibility of the state and territory governments to provide legislation for the enforcement of these classifications. The National Classification Code is set by agreement between the State, Territory, and Commonwealth governments.

"Any move to introduce additional ratings for video games would, therefore, have to be by mutual agreement.

"While I understand that many in the community desire the addition of an R18+ rating for video games, the Federal Labor Party does not believe that there are any fundamental problems with the functioning of the Classification system in Australia and, as such, we do not currently have any proposals to work with state governments to introduce such additional ratings for video games."

Hot Coffee is not good for you.
Hot Coffee is not good for you.

The GameSpot AU Party
Here at the GameSpot AU Party, we frankly feel it's ridiculous that Australia does not have an R18+ rating for video games. A game-rating system that tops out at MA15+ is endemic of old-school thinking that basically assumes that children are the only people who play games. As recent research by the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia showed, the average age of the Australian gamer is 24.

If elected (and let's face it, we won't be), the GameSpot AU Party will respect the rights of adult Australians to play the content they prefer. Of course, children should not be exposed to adult material. But if you're over 18, then the game's on. Not only will we introduce an R18+ rating in Australia, but the GameSpot AU Party will also work with Rockstar to retroactively insert the Hot Coffee mod in all versions of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. In fact, we will insist that Rockstar insert Hot Coffee in all their products, including Table Tennis. We will also ensure that Leisure Suit Larry gets the Order of Australia.

What are your thoughts on how the elections could help or hurt games in Australia? Leave us a comment and let us know!

The Australian games-development industry is growing at a fast pace, with more than 40 development companies and 1,600 employees locally. The industry is worth more than A$110 million per annum, but the Game Developers' Association of Australia (GDAA)--the peak body representing local dev houses such as Tantalus, Auran, Krome, and more--thinks that amount can be larger. Much larger. The GDAA has in recent months been asking the federal government for a helping hand. Specifically, the GDAA is asking for the same 40 percent rebate that was introduced to help the Australian film industry. The GDAA says government support will result in an additional A$25 million in new investment into Australian-developed games.

Just before the election was called, the federal government--through Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan--essentially rebuffed the industry by saying that game developers would "not be eligible for the tax offsets" introduced for the film industry. But with the federal election now called, has the government changed its tune? And what would Labor do if it was in power? Here's the question we sent to both the Coalition and Labor:

The Games Developers' Association of Australia (GDAA) has recently been campaigning for more government assistance for the local industry. Specifically, they have asked for a 40 percent rebate introduced in this year's budget for the Australian film industry to be extended to the Australian video games development sector. What is your official stance on introducing this rebate for the games industry? In what other ways will a future Coalition/Labor government support the Australian games industry?

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger from Krome Studios. An Aussie success story.
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger from Krome Studios. An Aussie success story.

The Coalition: Minister for the Arts and Sport George Brandis
A spokesman for Minister Brandis replied to GameSpot AU with the following: "Minister Brandis indicated that were the Government to be re-elected, he would give consideration to their request in the new Parliament." The GDAA confirmed the federal government's revised stance on the 40 percent rebate, and GDAA CEO Greg Bondar said: "Senator Brandis was most sympathetic to our concerns and also undertook to ensure that a review of GDAA's call for a 40 percent tax rebate for the games industry in Australia would be undertaken if the Coalition was returned to government."

Labor Party: Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy
"Labor has announced that they will work with the games industry in Australia, and recommends that the Game Developers' Association of Australia has a seat at the table at the review of the 40 percent tax rebate which has been afforded to the film industry.

"Labor recognises the contribution the games industry makes to the Australian cultural landscape, and the economy as a whole, and is keen to continue to work with the games industry to encourage growth of this important sector."

Australia needs more than just sports games made locally.
Australia needs more than just sports games made locally.

The GameSpot AU Party
The GameSpot AU Party will do everything in its power to support the local industry. This will include introducing a rebate--bumped up to 70 percent--for all games developed locally. To take the next step, the GameSpot AU Party will invest more than A$20 billion in an "IP hunt," during which we will buy the gaming world's biggest and brightest franchises and give them to newly cashed-up and resource-rich Australian dev houses. Imagine it--Grand Theft Auto: Brisvegas by Krome Studios, or Halo 4: Re-Finish the Fight by IR Gurus. Plus, every person working in the Australian games industry will be allowed to park their cars in disabled parking spots and not be fined. They will also get lifetime memberships to the sporting team of their choice--either that, or a lifetime supply of soft drinks and pizza vouchers for those late-night prelaunch crunch sessions to get the game out the door in time.

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To gamers, broadband access is becoming a critical component of playing games. Very few games nowadays live offline, which makes fast, affordable, and easily accessible broadband a must. Sadly, Australia isn't exactly a world leader when it comes to broadband, considering that a recent OECD report found our broadband to be among the slowest and most expensive globally. So what are the two major parties promising when it comes to broadband, and how will it affect gamers in Australia? Here's the question we sent through to both Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan and Labor Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy:

1) Broadband is shaping up to be one of the key issues for this election campaign, and it is an especially important issue to gamers. If elected, what specific pledges can you make regarding:

a) Increases in average speeds for both urban and regional Australians

b) Increased accessibility, both in urban and regional areas

c) Lowering broadband costs for the average Australian

Without fast broadband, how can we Aussies expect to compete at Halo 3?
Without fast broadband, how can we Aussies expect to compete at Halo 3?

The Coalition: Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan
Senator Coonan's office did not respond by our deadline to GameSpot AU's request for comment. Given that the minister seemingly doesn't wish to communicate directly to Australian gamers, we have summarised the government's previously stated broadband infrastructure plan. Under the Coalition's Australia Connected plan, the government says it will build a A$958 million national high-speed network using a mixture of fibre-optic, ADSL2+, and wireless broadband that it claims will cover 99 percent of the population by June 2009. The government has also committed to build a new commercial fibre-optic network for built-up areas.

"The centrepiece of Australia Connected is the immediate rollout of a new, independent, competitive, and state-of-the-art national broadband network that will extend high-speed services out to 99 per cent of the population and provide speeds of 12 megabits per second by mid-2009," said Senator Coonan in a press release from June 2007. "Retail prices for both the new WiMAX and ADSL2+ broadband services will range from A$35 to A$60 per month, depending on the speed selected by the consumer. This demonstrates that we have met our commitment to ensure affordability and metro-comparable pricing for all Australians regardless of where they live."

Labor Party: Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy
"After 11 years of Howard Government, and ineffectual policy that has resulted in 18 different broadband plans, Australia is still a broadband backwater. The OECD rates Australia 16th out of 30 countries for broadband access, and the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (USA) ranks Australia 26th for broadband speeds. Labor will boost Australia's broadband performance and drag us out of the digital dark ages, by delivering a National Broadband Network that will deliver improved broadband to 100 percent of Australians.

"The National Broadband Network includes a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) network that will deliver minimum broadband speeds of 12 megabits per second to 98 percent of the population. The remaining two percent will get access to the best available new technology, with connection speeds that are as close as possible to that delivered by the new network.

"Labor will commit up to A$4.7 billion to build the National Broadband Network, in partnership with the private sector. A$2 billion is from the Communications Fund, and Labor will ensure it is used for the purpose in which it was intended--to improve telecommunications in rural and regional areas. A$2.7 billion will be drawn from the Future Fund's shareholding in Telstra--to make better use of the Commonwealth's investment in telecommunications.

"Labor's A$4.7 billion commitment ensures the fibre-optic network reaches rural and regional Australians, not just the five capital cities as proposed by the private sector that forms the basis of the Howard Government's broadband plan.

"Labor recognises that Australians are subjected to prohibitively high broadband costs along with download limits and shaping of connection speeds, which restrict users and detract from the benefits of broadband. When it comes to cost, Labor believes that it is not the job of a politician to set consumer prices--rather this should be done by the winning tenderer for the National Broadband Network and the consumer watchdog, the ACCC.

"However, Labor also recognises that people living in countries [that] we consider our international peers have unlimited downloads while Australians' Internet use is currently restricted. To this end, Labor will hold an inquiry into the cost of Internet access with the aim of investigating the underlying causes of broadband pricing."

What do we want? Low pings. When do we want them? Now!
What do we want? Low pings. When do we want them? Now!

The GameSpot AU Party
The GameSpot AU Party recognises the urgent and very real need gamers have for fast and affordable broadband. To that end, the GameSpot AU Party pledges to spend A$100 billion toward building a new national broadband network that will ensure fibre connections to every home in Australia--every home. We pledge 30Mbps connections for everyone, with the cost to be heavily subsidised so that no Australian will pay more than A$4.95 per month (with no download caps). As for funding...well, we'll get it from somewhere. Defence, perhaps? Maybe roads. Anyway, the point is that we want an Australia where no one can ever use the excuse of "lag" for bad gameplay. And should we get elected to another term, we will also pledge to build a national Wi-Fi network to ensure everyone can use their Nintendo DS to battle with Pokémon characters wherever they are in Australia.

What are your thoughts on how the elections could help or hurt games in Australia? Leave us a comment and let us know!

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So many people have forgotten how bad this country has been under previous labor governments, ask your parents about "the recession we had to have" and the 17% interest rates with sky high unemployment along with the weak Aussie dollar labor do try and get the lower paid workers more money (like unions do) but this backfires, because it sends businesses offshore as it becomes to expensive to employ us (Australians) which in turn sends unemployment high, exports low and weakens the aussie dollar and the economy. I have a bachelor of business and did a thesis on the Australian economy and i understand how it works. Things are pretty good right now in Australia (generally) , it would be a huge risk to vote labor when things are going so well. if they weren't so good I would vote labor, but not this election.

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@ryan_returns29 - "because Labor support the bogans by paying them even more money than Liberal, which probably will increase the unemployement rate because the bogans will be getting heaps of money from our HIGH taxes"

Be careful what you say, unless you don't care if you sound like a completely spoiled brat. How many high taxes have you yourself paid, moron? You should be thankful for what you have, instead of looking down on poor people. You'll find out what hardship is one day. Until then, people like you make me sick.

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Great, because we don't get enough election rubbish on the TV and the newspapers we need it on gamespot as well! I've already voted for the Greens this election, so there.

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I don't understand why both M and MA have 15 as the age. It would make more sense to me to increase the MA age to 17. I agree with Irve in regards to tougher penalties and showing ID. I bought Far Cry twice (LAN), Counterstrike source and Fable without having to show ID. I turned 18 in march this year but trust me I don't look 18. This election is shaping up to be an interesting one, listen to more than one source and don't believe everything that the media tells you.

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Yeah vote labor coz the liberals are spending so much in shoddy advertising that it's injecting too much money into the economy, which is raising interest rates and inflation. Plus they obviously don't care about representing Australia online in FIFA 08 or Halo 3. Or anything for that matter :P

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I think there should be an R18+ rating for games, but it's probably not going to happen soon. Besides, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo have banned all AO games from their consoles (copy and paste if you don't believe it: http://au.gamespot.com/ps2/action/manhunt2/news.html?sid=6172830), so even if we did get an R18+ rating, it would only be good for the PC. Adult gamers - keep writing to the OFLC, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo if you disagree with them regulating adult games so heavily - I know I am. Not allowing adult games on their consoles for which we've paid hundreds of dollars, and possibly just under a thousand dollars in the 60gb PS3's case, is an absolute joke.

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I would happily vote for someone introducing an R18+ even if it meant tougher penaltys for sale / distribution to minors. I'm in favour of all the measures in the world to prevent kids from palying inappropriate games and would even ( at the age of 33 ) happily produce ID anytime i wished to buy a game , i'll happily have a "v chip" in my consoles that prevent anyone under 18 playing the game. I don't care about controls , I just want the freedom to play games !

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if you are a gamer VOTE LABOR. if they screw the econmy who cares? elect liberal in 3 years time and they can fix it :D. VOTE LABOR i really need a job in the game industry.

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I disagree. I feel that we should allow an R rating, but disallow an X rating. I mean come on, if a game is centreing on sex to that degree, its not going to be that good (case in point, Playboy). Thus, there's no real reason to allow hardcore sex in games. But as for violence, seriously, what are they thinking? How is it any different than movies? I've never understood that.

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Frankly, the only thing in this feature that I would even consider to be vote-changing is broadband. And not for gaming purposes. Either party's policy on an R18+ rating isn;t going to change anything- I believe it's the culture of conservatism at the OFLC that's the problem, non conservative govt. = non conservative OFLC, it's made up of appointees from the AG. As for tax rebates, that's fairly minor. It's an economic issue, not a games issue. And, let's face it, there is a lot more at stake this election than any of this. Having said that, Coonan's broadband plan sucks.... why does she think wifi will work when her experts tell her it wont? My friend's dad works at DSTO, he reckon's she's a right crackpot for keeping trumpeting it. and @ all those that say lowering prices for games is more important? that has nothing to do with the government, that's called the free market, baby. the way that the Australian currency moves around, the high prices are the way the publishers protect their profits. fact of life, sadly.

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As long as it's not sexualized violence (I mean the extreme stuff, I have no problem if you're into the S&M scene, just...let's not take it overboard) or child pornography, NOTHING should be banned.

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gamespot AU = POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

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I think we need to pay more attention to the ridiculous prices and backward release dates in mainstream games before worrying about this.

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I agree with the gist of this article. Australia is a gaming backwater. We pay more, get less, and have lower broadband penetration (which is inferior and more costly) and there isn't a tax break for the gaming industry, something which they need to keep afloat.

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Just get me off satelite and onto adsl

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And you can't say the Liberals will help the industry if one of their main repesentatives doesn't even bother responding to Gamespot AU's questions; probably so they don't show any kind of relative politcal side in this matter as there is an upcoming election. Oh, so much like Liberals to do so...

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awww man, i thought im living in a free country with the rights to express myself interactively? lol vote me for president dude, im running an international election, thank

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Yes a very interesting article (Thanks for your radical ideals Gamespot AU =D) -Anyway, I can't vote, but Labor has always been an obvious 1 in the polls. And no, for things more important than gaming; like our troops in Iraq, the drought and river Murray drying up, and workplace policies.

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Voooooote Rudd! yeaya

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@ryan_returns29: I didn't say you vote only because of gaming, I apologize if I misled you. But for the matter of fact, games are expensive here.... and they really should work on that, I admit I don't know what will happen to game price if labor take over, but I do know that the price will not change under liberal, and they will not work on that. So it's better to take a chance, even if the price increase, import games then, get it from somewhere else cheap.

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Hmm this Gamespot party has some intriguing ideas...

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Woooo! Vote Labor! They look after the average gamer and the gaming industry (although that's not the one of the main reason I'm voting for them)! But yeah, looks like an R18+ rating won't be introduced in Australia regardless of who you vote for :(

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@sw_and_wet: Did I say I would vote for them just because of games prices? I was just saying to jivemaster (who was complaining that games are too expensive here) that it would be a tiny bit cheaper to buy games under Liberal. Overall it doesn't really make a difference though.

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Why the hell would we want the hot coffee mod! I have no intention to play that filth, it was fine when nobody has discovered it and its gone over the top. Don't force it back in, only if you're a bunch of sex thirsty gamers! Also w00t National WiFi Network for Australia, now I can race in MKDS in the outback!

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I find it funny that Liberal supporters speak exactly the same as John Howard himself, copying what he says word by word. We are currently in a big mess and heading the way of the US since Howard and friends have let inflation get out of control. Plus any gamer who doesn't vote Labor should be ashamed of themselves since they obvious want us to keep being screwed.

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@ryan_returns29: it's fine if you want to vote for liberal (unfortunately you can't) but hey, don't use game as a excuse..... we are not voting gaming-king or whoever-can-lower-game-price-guy. It's the prime minister, THE prime minister man..... you can't just say, "Oh, voting the labor will increase game price, so we need to vote for liberal, coz that won't change the price, yay"....that's just wrong... You have much to learn, young one.

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Lets not stuff up our country shall we? vote Liberal

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@dunnowhathuh: I agree with your view that policies of either government are going to put upward pressure on interest rate whose movements are out of their hands but the RBA's. Frankly, I dont think we can really blame either government for the interest rate rise. This is because the economy is operating at its full capacity and resources are scarce, in order to satisfy Australian strong demand prices have to go up, which inevitably lead to interest rate rise. This is the truth of ecnonomics. Therefore, the point is to boost our productive capacity, which can be done by improving infrastructure, enhancing education, etc. It seems to me that Labor's plan is pretty much trying to achieve that. I am not saying that JH is bad (actually he really did bring great development to Australia), but the thing is we need something new for the new era, JH is simply too out-dated and too extreme (IR law).

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dunnowhathuh is spot on, Johnny and friends are reaping the fruits of previous labor Governments labour (pardon the pun). im surprised K-Rudd hasent copped on and pulled the liberals up on this. also, Johnny is a fool to think the economy is in the state it is in now because of his good work. Our economy isnt dictated by one mans policy. there are factors (spending, trade, war) that impact the value of our dollar and the money coming into the country. once again, Kev O'Sev hasent copped on and is letting Johnny fight an election campaign based on lies

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@jivemaster: Umm, if you didn't realise already, games will probably cost even more under Labor because of taxes. Do you really want to pay more for the games that we pay too much for already? Otherwise, it doesn't matter who you vote for because gaming will still remain the same in our country.

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Yea, nice read. Im also deeply interested in Krudds broadband plans.

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clearly gaming will be the most important and relevant aspect of the party's policies on which we must ultimately make our decision upon... lol but hey, krudd's broadband plan does sound pretty sweet

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Liberal

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does games really have any relevence to how our government is run, geese games would be the last thing on my mind when voting.

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@ryan_returns29, I do concern about how liberal and labor will affect the economy. Everything is going fine so far, but doesn't mean it is going to be fine in the future. We desperately need a plan for the future and unfortunately JH doesn't have one. Our economy is strong, but our education system, communication and all others which is not concern by the liberal is way behind other countries. That's where we need changes, that's why we need to catch up. Have you ever heard of a saying "one must run in order to stand still"? which means we need to keep going and improve things to stay "fine" as you said.

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People keep reflecting on how the economy was horrid back in the days of Labor. It's quite unfortunate that's all people see because if anyone bothered to look deeper, you'd see the Hawke/Keating government were responsible for carrying out much of the economic reforms that the Howard government uses as a foundation today. Ask any economist and they'll say Hawke's decision to float the Australian dollar and reduce trade tariffs was a good one. "Yeh, well, the Liberals would have done the same" you may say? Nope, they were against most of the economic reforms proposed by the Labor government at the time. People also seem to be forgetting that policies do change between governments like the Howard's decision NOT to reverse many of reforms performed by Labor when he came into office after the party's previous opposition to it. Also, if any of you understand the slightest bit about economics you'd know that a big ass spending spree by either government is counteracting the effect of an interest rate rise which funnily enough is one of the main election issues. So in a sense, neither government will be carrying out their promise to "keep interest rates low" any time soon.

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It's riducous that there is no R18+ rating for games. They are a form of media just like films and television and deserve equal rights. They should have the tax rebate that the film industry has. Games are becoming an important part of defining our culture and we need to afford them the same respect we would give to other forms of media.

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@sw_and_wet: So you're saying that you don't give a crap about how voting for Liberal/Labor effects you're life as long as it's what's best for the country? I have to disagree, because if the future of the nation were in jeopardy, it WOULD effect your life. That's the reason why I wouldn't vote for Labor, because everything is going fine with Liberal and there is a possibility that something could go terribly wrong if Labor get in office. So by voting for Labor you're kind of putting the future of the nation at risk, but who knows, all might go well with Labor.

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i need another 3 years up me sleeve before i can vote. mostly i want better broadband but the r18 issue i dont understand. why are they hesitant to change it? cost? media and public backfire? it cant cost much at all to put new stickers on games and i think we only need to allow banned games from this year back onto the market, other games i think by now will be outdated so it wont matter much. i think i would vote for labour just to get rid of the IR laws or work choices or whatever its real name is... apart from that i think that either party will do a good job

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i think id rather miss out on SOF (order from US?) and the other titles than have those 'blank, ex-blank blanks' labour guys in parliament, GAMERS: please don't vote on grounds of video game tolerance

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everyone acts like once Rudd is in power Australia will be miraculasly

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@ryan_returns29, I forgive your immature view... but once you grow up, you will have to notice that voting is not just about how it affect your family perform and stuff, it's way more than that, it's about the future of a entire nation, and there are not many lucky 17year-old student out there like you having high income to provide all you needs and games. So even liberal has brought us strong economy, we still need change to become a better country. You will never improve if you don't change a thing, there is no free lunch.

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I can't vote this election (In 2 months time I will be able to) but if I were to vote, I would definitely vote for Liberal for many reasons. The first reason I would vote for Liberal is because I honestly think our country is fine the way it is and we don't need a change. Also being a 17 year old, I live with my parents who have high income jobs, so if Labor win the election they will be slapped with huge taxes, meaning less money for the family throughout the year. I also go to a private school and of course Labor don't really give a crap about private education. Also of course Liberal are better at managing our economy, which is definitely one of the most important things. I personally would not risk voting for Labor, because as I said, our country is fine the way it is and we don't need any changes. I would maybe only vote for Labor when I'm older, have a normal income job and move out of home, because it would suit my needs more. Or if I were a dollbludger I would vote for Labor, because Labor support the bogans by paying them even more money than Liberal, which probably will increase the unemployement rate because the bogans will be getting heaps of money from our HIGH taxes that WE pay meaning there is no need for a job.

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@Turbo-Evil, seems like you are happy that you don't have a job, I don't have a job as well, and I don't think that's much to be proud of... Anyway, I didn't say you robber a bank, but you need money to buy games. So I guess you ask your mum to buy your games huh? and FYI, yes, you don't need to be a millionaire, apparently, I am not. I am just a poor college student, so I import games and console from other places, so I don't have to stand the painful game price.

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remember to howard is gonna retire ... so ur voting for costello not howard.. also the only reason howard has such a good economy is by the changes made by the keating government.. and he has done some good things too,, but mainly bounced off that.. saying this place is run by unions under labor is wrong cause its no different to saying that liberal is all lawyers and one priest... Howard has had the last 11 years to get his act together and he starts on the election campaign just before his retirement..

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@ jaredrichards3, about that pharse "if it ain't broke don't fix it", apparently, there are something is broken and our "Dear" John Howard has no plan at all to fix it.... If you, by any chance, have watched the debate...see how JH panic on the stage, see how his sentences don't make sense....

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I will be voting Liberal, Labour is just way to volitile, I think they should keep a leader in opposition for a few years considering they ahve had like 5 in the last 7 years. What happens if there is a crisis? will labour just start squabbling amongst themselves like usual (latham anyone? simon creane? Beazely?) Economically, people have never been better off, despite the rate rises (thats fact you cant argue it) so i think ill stick with the liberals, in reality gaming policies arnt going to change whoever is in

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