I Game and I Vote: GameSpot AU's Guide to the Australian Federal Election

In the lead-up to Australia's upcoming federal election, GameSpot AU identifies the burning issues for gamers and finds out what both of the major political parties are promising to do about them.

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My fellow Australians, the time is almost nigh to do your civic duty and march on down to vote in the upcoming federal election. But if all this talk of me-too-ism, interest rates, economic management, worms, climate change, and whatnot is starting to send you cross-eyed, then never fear. GameSpot AU is here to cut through the noise and present you with a video game-centric view of everything you'll need to know to make an informed decision on polling day.

That's right, we've picked the three most pressing issues for gamers in Australia and asked the two major parties--the Coalition and Labor--to outline their views, plans, and promises. We'll also put in our own two cents as the GameSpot AU Party, and explain what we would do should we ever get into the Lodge. (Unfortunately, bad timing and several matters still pending in international courts have prevented us from registering as a political party for this election--but next time!) So which party will make your life better as a gamer down under? Who should get your vote? Read on to make your decision!

Australia is without a doubt a great nation, but it's not as welcoming if you're the creators of Soldier of Fortune: Payback. Or Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. Or Manhunt. That's because those three games--among many others--have been the victims of Australia's games-classification system courtesy of the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC). In Australia, the highest classification currently allowed for a video game is MA15+. Classification for other forms of entertainment media, such as films and DVDs, can go up to R18+, or even to X18. What the lower ceiling of classification for video games means is this: Any game considered by the OFLC to have content that is unsuitable for someone under the age of 15 is refused classification. That means it becomes illegal to sell, import, or display said game in Australia. Soldier of Fortune: Payback was the last game to be refused classification down under. Others include Reservoir Dogs, BMX XXX, Manhunt (after being approved and on sale for six months before reclassified), Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude, Postal, Postal 2, and NARC. (The Grand Theft Auto games listed were eventually made available for sale after some content changes by the developer).

Soldier of Fortune: Payback. NOT coming soon to an Aussie store near you.
Soldier of Fortune: Payback. NOT coming soon to an Aussie store near you.

To be fair, Australia's federal government is not solely responsible for games classification in this country. All of Australia's various state and territory attorneys general--as well as the federal attorney general--jointly make the decision on classification levels for different forms of media. This National Classification Code is what the OFLC then uses to make its decisions on ratings. Nevertheless, given that it governs our nation, the federal government is important in terms of its opinion about an R rating for video games. Here's the question we sent to both attorney general Philip Ruddock and shadow attorney general Senator Joe Ludwig:

Australia currently has no R18+ classification for video games. Do you support the future introduction of an R18+ rating? If not, why? If you do support an R18+ rating, will this be an issue you will be pursuing should you win government?

Their responses are below.

The Coalition: Attorney General Philip Ruddock
Philip Ruddock's office did not respond by GameSpot AU's deadline for this feature. But considering that Ruddock--along with the Local Government Association of Queensland--worked together to ultimately ban Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure in Australia in early 2006, we're guessing his views on introducing an R18+ rating won't be too forward-thinking.

Labor Party: Shadow Attorney General Joe Ludwig
"Australia's classification regime is, broadly, divided into two different streams: classification and enforcement. While--under the current arrangements--it is the responsibility of the Commonwealth to provide for the classification of materials, it is generally the responsibility of the state and territory governments to provide legislation for the enforcement of these classifications. The National Classification Code is set by agreement between the State, Territory, and Commonwealth governments.

"Any move to introduce additional ratings for video games would, therefore, have to be by mutual agreement.

"While I understand that many in the community desire the addition of an R18+ rating for video games, the Federal Labor Party does not believe that there are any fundamental problems with the functioning of the Classification system in Australia and, as such, we do not currently have any proposals to work with state governments to introduce such additional ratings for video games."

Hot Coffee is not good for you.
Hot Coffee is not good for you.

The GameSpot AU Party
Here at the GameSpot AU Party, we frankly feel it's ridiculous that Australia does not have an R18+ rating for video games. A game-rating system that tops out at MA15+ is endemic of old-school thinking that basically assumes that children are the only people who play games. As recent research by the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia showed, the average age of the Australian gamer is 24.

If elected (and let's face it, we won't be), the GameSpot AU Party will respect the rights of adult Australians to play the content they prefer. Of course, children should not be exposed to adult material. But if you're over 18, then the game's on. Not only will we introduce an R18+ rating in Australia, but the GameSpot AU Party will also work with Rockstar to retroactively insert the Hot Coffee mod in all versions of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. In fact, we will insist that Rockstar insert Hot Coffee in all their products, including Table Tennis. We will also ensure that Leisure Suit Larry gets the Order of Australia.

What are your thoughts on how the elections could help or hurt games in Australia? Leave us a comment and let us know!

The Australian games-development industry is growing at a fast pace, with more than 40 development companies and 1,600 employees locally. The industry is worth more than A$110 million per annum, but the Game Developers' Association of Australia (GDAA)--the peak body representing local dev houses such as Tantalus, Auran, Krome, and more--thinks that amount can be larger. Much larger. The GDAA has in recent months been asking the federal government for a helping hand. Specifically, the GDAA is asking for the same 40 percent rebate that was introduced to help the Australian film industry. The GDAA says government support will result in an additional A$25 million in new investment into Australian-developed games.

Just before the election was called, the federal government--through Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan--essentially rebuffed the industry by saying that game developers would "not be eligible for the tax offsets" introduced for the film industry. But with the federal election now called, has the government changed its tune? And what would Labor do if it was in power? Here's the question we sent to both the Coalition and Labor:

The Games Developers' Association of Australia (GDAA) has recently been campaigning for more government assistance for the local industry. Specifically, they have asked for a 40 percent rebate introduced in this year's budget for the Australian film industry to be extended to the Australian video games development sector. What is your official stance on introducing this rebate for the games industry? In what other ways will a future Coalition/Labor government support the Australian games industry?

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger from Krome Studios. An Aussie success story.
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger from Krome Studios. An Aussie success story.

The Coalition: Minister for the Arts and Sport George Brandis
A spokesman for Minister Brandis replied to GameSpot AU with the following: "Minister Brandis indicated that were the Government to be re-elected, he would give consideration to their request in the new Parliament." The GDAA confirmed the federal government's revised stance on the 40 percent rebate, and GDAA CEO Greg Bondar said: "Senator Brandis was most sympathetic to our concerns and also undertook to ensure that a review of GDAA's call for a 40 percent tax rebate for the games industry in Australia would be undertaken if the Coalition was returned to government."

Labor Party: Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy
"Labor has announced that they will work with the games industry in Australia, and recommends that the Game Developers' Association of Australia has a seat at the table at the review of the 40 percent tax rebate which has been afforded to the film industry.

"Labor recognises the contribution the games industry makes to the Australian cultural landscape, and the economy as a whole, and is keen to continue to work with the games industry to encourage growth of this important sector."

Australia needs more than just sports games made locally.
Australia needs more than just sports games made locally.

The GameSpot AU Party
The GameSpot AU Party will do everything in its power to support the local industry. This will include introducing a rebate--bumped up to 70 percent--for all games developed locally. To take the next step, the GameSpot AU Party will invest more than A$20 billion in an "IP hunt," during which we will buy the gaming world's biggest and brightest franchises and give them to newly cashed-up and resource-rich Australian dev houses. Imagine it--Grand Theft Auto: Brisvegas by Krome Studios, or Halo 4: Re-Finish the Fight by IR Gurus. Plus, every person working in the Australian games industry will be allowed to park their cars in disabled parking spots and not be fined. They will also get lifetime memberships to the sporting team of their choice--either that, or a lifetime supply of soft drinks and pizza vouchers for those late-night prelaunch crunch sessions to get the game out the door in time.

What are your thoughts on how the elections could help or hurt games in Australia? Leave us a comment and let us know!

To gamers, broadband access is becoming a critical component of playing games. Very few games nowadays live offline, which makes fast, affordable, and easily accessible broadband a must. Sadly, Australia isn't exactly a world leader when it comes to broadband, considering that a recent OECD report found our broadband to be among the slowest and most expensive globally. So what are the two major parties promising when it comes to broadband, and how will it affect gamers in Australia? Here's the question we sent through to both Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan and Labor Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy:

1) Broadband is shaping up to be one of the key issues for this election campaign, and it is an especially important issue to gamers. If elected, what specific pledges can you make regarding:

a) Increases in average speeds for both urban and regional Australians

b) Increased accessibility, both in urban and regional areas

c) Lowering broadband costs for the average Australian

Without fast broadband, how can we Aussies expect to compete at Halo 3?
Without fast broadband, how can we Aussies expect to compete at Halo 3?

The Coalition: Communication, Information Technology, and the Arts minister Senator Helen Coonan
Senator Coonan's office did not respond by our deadline to GameSpot AU's request for comment. Given that the minister seemingly doesn't wish to communicate directly to Australian gamers, we have summarised the government's previously stated broadband infrastructure plan. Under the Coalition's Australia Connected plan, the government says it will build a A$958 million national high-speed network using a mixture of fibre-optic, ADSL2+, and wireless broadband that it claims will cover 99 percent of the population by June 2009. The government has also committed to build a new commercial fibre-optic network for built-up areas.

"The centrepiece of Australia Connected is the immediate rollout of a new, independent, competitive, and state-of-the-art national broadband network that will extend high-speed services out to 99 per cent of the population and provide speeds of 12 megabits per second by mid-2009," said Senator Coonan in a press release from June 2007. "Retail prices for both the new WiMAX and ADSL2+ broadband services will range from A$35 to A$60 per month, depending on the speed selected by the consumer. This demonstrates that we have met our commitment to ensure affordability and metro-comparable pricing for all Australians regardless of where they live."

Labor Party: Shadow Minister for Communications and Information Technology Senator Stephen Conroy
"After 11 years of Howard Government, and ineffectual policy that has resulted in 18 different broadband plans, Australia is still a broadband backwater. The OECD rates Australia 16th out of 30 countries for broadband access, and the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (USA) ranks Australia 26th for broadband speeds. Labor will boost Australia's broadband performance and drag us out of the digital dark ages, by delivering a National Broadband Network that will deliver improved broadband to 100 percent of Australians.

"The National Broadband Network includes a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) network that will deliver minimum broadband speeds of 12 megabits per second to 98 percent of the population. The remaining two percent will get access to the best available new technology, with connection speeds that are as close as possible to that delivered by the new network.

"Labor will commit up to A$4.7 billion to build the National Broadband Network, in partnership with the private sector. A$2 billion is from the Communications Fund, and Labor will ensure it is used for the purpose in which it was intended--to improve telecommunications in rural and regional areas. A$2.7 billion will be drawn from the Future Fund's shareholding in Telstra--to make better use of the Commonwealth's investment in telecommunications.

"Labor's A$4.7 billion commitment ensures the fibre-optic network reaches rural and regional Australians, not just the five capital cities as proposed by the private sector that forms the basis of the Howard Government's broadband plan.

"Labor recognises that Australians are subjected to prohibitively high broadband costs along with download limits and shaping of connection speeds, which restrict users and detract from the benefits of broadband. When it comes to cost, Labor believes that it is not the job of a politician to set consumer prices--rather this should be done by the winning tenderer for the National Broadband Network and the consumer watchdog, the ACCC.

"However, Labor also recognises that people living in countries [that] we consider our international peers have unlimited downloads while Australians' Internet use is currently restricted. To this end, Labor will hold an inquiry into the cost of Internet access with the aim of investigating the underlying causes of broadband pricing."

What do we want? Low pings. When do we want them? Now!
What do we want? Low pings. When do we want them? Now!

The GameSpot AU Party
The GameSpot AU Party recognises the urgent and very real need gamers have for fast and affordable broadband. To that end, the GameSpot AU Party pledges to spend A$100 billion toward building a new national broadband network that will ensure fibre connections to every home in Australia--every home. We pledge 30Mbps connections for everyone, with the cost to be heavily subsidised so that no Australian will pay more than A$4.95 per month (with no download caps). As for funding...well, we'll get it from somewhere. Defence, perhaps? Maybe roads. Anyway, the point is that we want an Australia where no one can ever use the excuse of "lag" for bad gameplay. And should we get elected to another term, we will also pledge to build a national Wi-Fi network to ensure everyone can use their Nintendo DS to battle with Pokémon characters wherever they are in Australia.

What are your thoughts on how the elections could help or hurt games in Australia? Leave us a comment and let us know!

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that picture with the socer player look gay hehehe

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Not having an 18+ rating is just stupid. We in Sweden have an 18 rating(i think its the PEGI system here but im not sure)

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GameSpot AU party all the way. It is ridiculous that we don't have an R18+ rating while films and other media do.

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That's not enough to sway me toward ALP... That's ONE thing they can do... The rest of their ideas (the "Cards" they're keeping held tightly to their chests) leave me cold giving me good reason not to vote Labor. To me Labor are playing the wannabe just to get into office. R/X 18+ classification for games sounds like an attractive reason to vote ALP. Every promise Labor makes... ask yourself this: "AT WHAT COST?"

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Labor all the way!

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I doubt much will come of the first two issues in a hurry but the third gets a lot of attention and so it should. From a purely selfish gaming POV - my pings on alleged 24mbps/1mbps iiNet to the US (i.e. pretty much every game of Halo I play) are criminal. Makes melee combat completely ineffectual and leaves you loathing the smarta*se yank who claims he's so much better than you after his late beatdown. Boo.

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The Labor party is da best. Kevin Rudd for sure!

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Nemesis23345 that is so true kevin rudd rocks

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Politics. They are the biggest jerks they all deserve a kick in the mouth.

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All Video Game passionates should vote for Labor. His son is a hardcore gamer!. Rudd's son was apparently spotted on TV sporting a Warcraft T-Shirt. Lower Pings for every game via local servers and fast broadband. For all games. Kevin Rudd is in touch with modern society, John Howard hugs his old wireless radio every night and considers it the peak of technology.

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man, i am so sick of being owned on halo just because my ping sucks. VOTE FOR GAMESPOT!

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You can still buy R18+ games if your an actual adult with a credit card and a fast internet connection or a P.O box. To allow R18+ games to be sold at our game stores is ridiculous. Most games are aimed towards 10-16 year olds so there is no place for them (you cant buy porn from Target) but in some cases the Classification Board are being very old fashioned. GTA series has a very bad history in the USA. All services are based on what residential zoning your sub-division was established under, its decided by the councils. I have seen brand new housing estates with the latest fibre optics and people have no problem getting maximum internet speeds also Central Business Districts are updated all the time and get the most recent speeds before any residential area.

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Well, im defiantly voting The GameSpot AU Party number 1!

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nice work The GameSpot AU Party

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my friends welcome to Australia. unfortunately its very difficult to compare us with other countries in Asia because we don't have as near as a dense population as countries like Korea, Japan and Taiwan. in order to cover the costs of running lines everywhere, telstra being our only real telco company, has to bare the cost burden. Telstra, are like any other company, they want to make.... u guessed it, money. im really glad labour has finally stepped in cause i'm sick of those monopolizing bastards at telstra leaving Australia in the dark ages while they make a nice profit.

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Vote 1 The Chaser!!!

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If you have a problem I suggest you guys lobby a minister or something or, I'm definitely sure, you could get enough signatures for a petition to get your voice heard. Frankly, I don't mind the current censorship laws. For me all the games that I like seem to be getting through the holes of the MA15+ net. And I was lucky to play a version of San Andreas before reclassification. You must remember that these Laws have been around for a while. And from what I can tell Censorship seems to be a concurrent power, correct me if I'm wrong, but that just means you're problem is not with Parliament but more or less the State Governments. Which should make it easier to get through.

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To the one who mentioned Columbine, you sound as though you're about to go out and do something similar. The lighter side is that you haven't played any R18+ games (or so we must assume) and by doing something extreme, you prove will your own point. Godspeed. I disagree with this sort of censorship, even though I myself would not have access to this sort of content were it available, being only 17. And how 'bout that broadband? Sounds like we win either way, if those reptilian excuses for real people don't forget about their promises, or eat their words.

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There is no reason not to have an R rating for games and it is about time Australia switches on and accepts Video games as a legitimate story telling medium and not as a “toy” made for kids.

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I don't see why the government has to have anything to do with the ratings of games?? I think the only real reason that these people wont allow a R-18 rating is because they are afraid that the same sort of thing as the Columbine High School massacre will happen, which i think is absolute bullsh*t!! Also i reckon that the government like too control every fuc*kin little thing they can, its probably the same as the fact that they will not let us have the fiber optics, i mean whats with that??? Anyway thats my take on things. jtickner: "and our broadband is slower than all hell" What do you mean by this??

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Not having a R18 rating for video games is completely stupid. How is it any different from having R18 rated Movies?

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Man they just wanna control ever freeking thing we do OMG John Howard is just upset that he got beaten in CS Sorce damn u GAMESPOT AU 2008

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we need a R18+ rating for games, its bullS*** that we dont have one just coz all the people in government arent gamers and dont f***ing understand anything

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so an R18 would mean less banned games? thats good i suppose, sucks to be underage though eh, but i think you gotta keep in mind that these are election promises, and dont exactly have reputation for being kept. i heard Rudd's promised a $1500 deposit for every student to buy a laptop, i plan to take full advantage!

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i agree we need a R18 rating now

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Ahhh i could barely read all of this, i hate the fact that we can't get R 18+ games here, i get so frustrated just thinking about it. They will allow us to sell X rated movies in stores, but not sell R games... dam them all:P

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GamespotAU team for Federal Parliament. I'd vote for you guys!

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yeah. it's BS how we don't have an R18 rating, how lame, and our broadband is slower than all hell, they should get there act together and fix it. we need some staunch petition showing that people want an R18+ video game rating. I don't see how there can be a problem having one, no one wants to play Mario for the rest of gaming eternity, i want fully uncensored manhunt and i want it now!

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I lol'd at the table tennis bit! great stuff guys :P Of course as an Australian adult I completely agree. I gave up on putting up rants about the damn OFLC many years ago... can't see change happening any time soon

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i realy would like to pay less and download more. :)

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I like the sound of the GameSpot AU Party and their promises.

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I wish the pollies would give gamers more consideration.

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@ryan_returns29 - You don't know much about the welfare system here in oz. It may be easy to go on the dole when you are young with no assets, but try going on if your business has just failed. You just about need to hire an accountant to give them the paperwork they need.

Anyway, have you heard of Work for the Dole, or Mutual Obligation? I guess not. You can't just do nothing and continue to get paid by centerlink. But the vast majority of people on the dole want to work, and many have just lost a job and need some temporary help before they can find another job. But if you think they are all just 'bogans' that are bludging on the system, you need a reality check. Like I said before your tone makes you sound like an ignorant snob.

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If labor wins our economy will suffer

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coudnt agree anymore. Great article, though i'm pretty sure that both the party's promises and investigations wont be completed untill after the next elections in 2011 if they get re-elected. But was really funny

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Yes Broadband is more important than defence... You people would never get elected and also you know a 40% rebate is good but lets face it Ubisoft and Bungie are beteer at their jobs and there would be public outcry when the Aussie version didn't get par.

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ddt88: I couldn't agree with you more.

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Doesn't matter which way you vote. We're still screwed IMO and it'll take another 5-10 years for them to fix the issue that is there in regard to ratings.

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Well heres another few reasons not to vote for the Howard Government and while i dont really want to vote Labor at least they took the time to address Gamespot AU's questions. The Coalition is too busy stuffing up the country in other ways so when it comes to taking the time to address game classifications and internet speeds they refuse to respond or change anything....Just like they have always done!! Vote 1 for Gamespot AU!!!

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Just get us unlimited download ffs.

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As with most things, Australia is nothing more than a politically over policed, redneck, backwater of a place. Paul Keating's referral to Australia as the 'arse end of the world' was never more appropriate in this case. Australia is usually 30 years behind when it comes to the most important issues & I can't see that changing in the near future. Would you trust over paid & under qualified house wives & business men to make these decisions for you? I think not...

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Too much politics in this thread... lol

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ROFL ill vote one for gamespot!

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This is something I posted in the xbox forums. It is also about the R18+ classification issue. I believe there are better ways in which we can campaign for better classifications. Please read the following to understand more: ********** XboxOZ360(from the AU.XBOX forums) wrote: Parents and gardians are often misguided in their choices, thinking a game can't be all that bad if it's "just MA15+" . . .yet the same game from Europe would have a different rating, which could be anything from 12 - 18yrs, depending on the level and style of content. So Prey as an example is "18" in the UK/EU yet only MA15+ here, which is rediculious. ********** DizzRYUKEN wrote: This is a good point. Too many campaigns in the past have been focused on the arguement that we need an R-rating, so that games that are presently banned (or possibly banned in the future) are available for any adults wanting to play them. However this type of arguement, regarldess of the topic, tends to never work because (for lack of a better explanation) it is so "me-me-me" orientated. If a campaign could be generated that focuses on the idea that a 15yo can get their hands on a game that is 18+ elsewhere in the world, it would actually point out the flaws in our classification system and therefore makes a mockery of not only the system but the OFLC and it's reputation. That would get the right peoples' attention. Of course, this does open the door for opposing groups to argue the games in this situation should be banned altogether from sale. However, if the OFLC has approved them prior to raising such points, then obviously they have not seen a reason for them to be restricted in Australia. And only a reason that it is ok for them to be sold to minors.... ;D

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Anybody who votes for a candidate because of their views on video games is a mentalist.

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Anybody who votes for a candidate because of their views on video games is a mentalist.

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@dragonseer439: I was saying this becuase the Government AREN'T doing enough to get unemployed people jobs. It's so simple to go on the doll these days, all you have have to do is go down to a recruitment agency, 'try' to look for a job, then go down to Centrelink and show them that you have tried to get a job, then presto, you're on the doll. I'm saying that the Government should make everyone who is physically able to get a job work, otherwise, they should be allowed to go on the doll. This would of course decrease the unemployement rate.

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Why would you want to make things cheaper for the games industry, just so they can push out more crap for less and pocket the profit. IR Gurus has pushed AFL for long enough and it's still crap and getting worse. I don't know how you could make a bad game worse but they managed too and after all these years making it cheaper for them will somehow change that. That isn't how it works, the only thing sheltering our games industry will do is make it easier for them to make bad games and still survive. If they can't make a quality game that can compete in the market then they shouldn't be there. The money would be better spent getting quality developers to put more Australian content into their games. A Bathurst in Gran Turismo or Forza, have our major cities and country as locales in FPS etc, get EA Tiburon to make an AFL or Rugby game like Madden. Wishful thinking I know but I would rather hold out for that then AFL 2008.

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I'd be interested on what the Greens thoughts on gaming was

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