Huge Battlefield 1 Update Out Now, Adds Free Map and Makes a Ton of Changes

Battlefield 1 grows and evolves today with a major update.

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Now Playing: Battlefield 1 - Official Giant's Shadow Trailer

It's a big day for Battlefield 1, as DICE has released a huge update for the World War I shooter. As announced previously, the patch adds the game's first free DLC map, Giant's Shadow, as well as the grenade-crossbow. Battlefield 1 Premium members can play the new map today, while everyone else gets access to it on December 20.

Today's patch also makes a huge amount of balance changes for weapons and items, and introduces a new feature in the form of a Spectator mode and a new Custom Game option that limits players to only their class' standard issue rifle.

Among the notable changes including the weakening of some shotguns and a variety of other tweaks to things like recoil values. Additionally, there is now a cooldown for syringes to prevent what DICE calls "revive trains" where one Medic can revive many players in one sweep.

In terms of bug fixes, the new update fixes a problem "with horse-twitching from explosives," while the issue where players could become invisible when exiting certain vehicles is also fixed.

The new grenade-crossbow
The new grenade-crossbow

The complete patch notes can be seen below, as written by DICE. The patch is 3.84 GB on Xbox One, though we haven't been able to confirm its size on PlayStation 4 and PC.

New Content and Features:

Giant's Shadow Map

With a massive crashed airship casting its shadow onto the battlefield, Giant’s Shadow brings fierce combat on the open ground and river banks alongside the Cateau-Wassigny railway.

Fight in the shadow of a crashed giant. The Battle of the Selle, 1918. Cold autumn. British forces have broken through the Hindenburg line and are heading towards a strategic railway center. The outcome is uncertain. An armored train can still turn the tide.

Spectator Mode

With great pleasure, we would like to introduce everyone to the new Spectator mode. In Spectator, players will be able to join a live BF1 match as an observer. From there, observers can switch between first-person and third-person camera views of all the players on the battlefield through our Player View mode, get an overhead bird’s eye view of the battlefield in Table Top mode, or fly a camera through the world using Free Cam mode.

Our goal was to improve Spectator from previous versions of Battlefield. We gathered feedback from the community and focused much of our efforts on improving the usability and flow moving from player-to-player and switching between the different view modes (Table Top, Player View, and Free Cam). Another key design emphasis for us was to make Spectator a viable tool for the community to create content which includes a moveable third-person camera, depth of field, and camera filters.

New Custom Game setting

A new Custom Game option has been added: Standard Issue Rifles. In SIR all kits are granted access to their faction’s standard issue rifle. For example, the British are granted the SMLE MKIII. These rifles are not equipped with optics, and are intended to provide players with gameplay inspired by the WW1 trenches. As a Custom Game option, this can be enabled or disabled with other weapon types to create a variety of experiences. SIR is not available as part of the base game experience. We feel that the ability to equip SIR in vanilla would negatively impact the combat roles of the classes. As a clear WW1 fantasy, we hope that SIR scratches an itch for our broad and diverse player base.



We've made several fixes and tweaks to the controls and input handling for the soldier experience. Most of these are bug fixes that should generally ensure a higher response level for players. This includes fixing the inability to sprint out of crouch and prone in certain situations and fixing issues with toggle zoom. While we are confident we have improved the situation, we are eager to hear the community’s feedback to see if there are any outstanding or new issues that can be discovered.

Aim Assist

An update has also been made to the controller Aim Assist system in BF1. We now require the player to be actively giving aim input in order to get aim assistance. It was possible in some previous cases to get help on a target when simply strafing past them, which was unintentional. We’ve also exposed additional control options on console, including the ability to tweak the central dead zone. Please note that setting the dead zone too small may introduce unintentional aim movement. We have not made any adjustments to the snap-to-target feature of our Aim Assist. While we are aware there are players who are actively petitioning for the reduction or removal of Aim Assist, we feel that this would be to the detriment of the global player community. As this is an area of high passions, we expect additional feedback on our Aim Assist systems to surface, and we are open to that feedback. We are especially interested in appealing to those players who wish to play without assists, and are sensitive to their needs.


Vehicle Deployment

This update includes some new additional logic to address the problem of spawning as a Tanker, Pilot, or Cavalry soldier without your mount. We have also made some fixes that should prevent the player from getting the incorrect kit when spawning into a vehicle, for example spawning as a Cavalry soldier when spawning into a Tank. In some extreme cases, the player may be blocked from spawning if a vehicle cannot be spawned. This can happen due to positioning of other soldiers and vehicles in the world, and should be rare. Previously the player would be spawned without the vehicle; in the new case, the spawn flow will be aborted and the player given a “spawn not available” message.


Looking at the way the game is played, the Landship is underrepresented in gameplay. We wanted to enhance the role of the tank as a teamplay vehicle, as well as give additional incentives for tank drivers to pick up and play the Landship. The biggest change here is the ability to allow teammates to spawn into the Landship directly, like they do the Heavy Tank today. This will help keep the Landship full of teammates, in a way that makes it a far more effective vehicle. We've also applied buffs to the driver abilities and the armor of the Landship, making it as armored as the Heavy Tank. The shape of the Landship still makes it easier to knock out treads and weapons compared to the Heavy Tank.

Air Vehicles

Several adjustments have been made to the combat experience for Air Vehicles. We’ve removed an exploit that allowed instant killing of airplanes with the Ranken Darts; these are intended as ground attack weapons, not air to air weapons. Fighter airplanes now have slightly higher damage to their MGs overall and Bombers take more damage from MGs specifically. Rockets have also received a velocity boost to make their usage more consistent. Combined with some additional reductions in overheat, this should make Fighters more viable in the air to air role without having to resort to exploits or lucky rocket hits. We’ve also reduced the damage of rear gunners in airplanes, in order to prevent players from easily switching to the rear gun and killing pursuers. This tactic is, of course, still viable, but now is more difficult to perform, making it a skill move. The damage reduction should not be extreme enough to significantly decrease the intended teamplay benefit of having a full airplane.

Line of Sight

We’ve added a “Head Glitching” style fix to vehicles that prevents players from shooting over objects that block the weapon’s line of sight. This is most noticeable in 3P, and is intended to fix players being able to fire their tank at targets while remaining entirely behind cover. It is our intent to provide a balanced 1P and 3P vehicle experience, and this fix goes a long way towards ensuring 3P does not become the dominant play style.

Detailed Vehicle Changes

  • TankGewehr now does increased damage, from 120-150 to 160-180. Change is on both the Landship and Tank Hunter. Damage against planes is virtually unchanged
  • Landship mortars have had their range increased slightly
  • The Mortar Pattern of the Landship now has five seats, adding two additional side LMG seats to the package
  • The Squad Support Pattern of the Landship now features a front firing 20mm cannon like the Light Tank Flanker Pattern, instead of an LMG
  • The Landship now takes the same damage as the Heavy Tank
  • Decreased amount of health restored by emergency repairs on the Heavy Tank from 30% to 20%
  • Increased the amount of health restored by track repairs on the Landship from 15% to 20%
  • Decreased amount of health restored by emergency repairs on the Landship from 30% to 25%
  • Decreased damage of Case shells against planes by 50%
  • Reduced stationary AA range from 400 m to 334 m
  • Fixed inconsistent damage of plane rockets against other planes
  • Reduced plane rocket impact damage from 120 to 100
  • Increased plane rocket initial speed and reduced time to live
  • Reduced Ranken Dart damage against planes
  • Made bombers take 20% more damage from bullets
  • Increased Dogfighter and Trench Fighter MG damage by 4% and slowed down the overheat
  • Increased Bomber Killer MG damage by 3%
  • Decreased Airship Killer MG damage by 18%
  • Decrease plane tail gunner damage by 23% (far) to 42% (close) and sped up damage drop-off slightly
  • Reduced boat torpedo range to approximately 400 m, matching the behemoth AA range



Shotgun balance has been addressed in this update, with the primary goal of evening out the advantages and disadvantages of each type of shotgun. We noticed that some shotguns were unintentionally strong at certain distances, most obvious with the Model 10-A Hunter and Factory, which could kill a full health target at long range (for a shotgun). Players were naturally preferring these shotguns over others. To prevent this, we reduced the range for the buckshot variants of the M97 Trench Gun, Model 10-A and Sawed Off Shotgun, reducing the maximum one-hit kill distance. To make the M97 Trench gun more attractive we added an extra pellet to all variants and slightly improved the damage drop-off for the Sweeper variant. The Backbored shotgun variants had their range improved, as previously you took too big of a hit for the improved recoil. We increased the accuracy of the 12g Automatic to allow users to make use of its high rate of fire more effectively. Tweaked crosshairs will make it easier to land your damage consistently for all shotguns.


Adjustments were made to have LMG performance much more consistent at close and medium range. We tweaked how much inaccuracy you get when you start firing an LMG while aimed. Previously, Optical configurations had a significant advantage over the rest unless a bipod was used. Now the accuracy of the second shot is the same for all variants of one LMG and just slightly above the level previously held by the Optical setups. Using a bipod will still give you a significant boost to your accuracy while firing. Additionally, we added a small bonus to horizontal recoil while aimed with Optical variants, improved reload timers to better match the animations, and made the Lewis Gun overheat slower.


Players may now bayonet charge while reloading or when out of ammo with their weapon. The reload will be aborted if the player still has rounds in the magazine. If the weapon is empty, the reload will restart automatically at the end of the charge.

Detailed Weapon Changes

  • Reduced reload time for the Lewis MG from 3 to 2.85 s and 4.5 to 4.2 s for fast and slow reload to better match the animations
  • Slowed down Lewis MG overheat from 35 to 50 bullets
  • Increased Madsen MG fast reload from 2.45 to 2.65 s to better match the animations
  • Reduced tactical fast time for the BAR from 2.9 to 2.8 s to better match the animations
  • Increased MG15 reload time from 4.3 to 4.45 s to better match the animations
  • Corrected an error where LMGs and rifles zoomed in too fast when used with iron sights and 2.00x magnification
  • Increased the throwing velocity of the Light AT Grenade to the same value as used by the Frag Grenade
  • Improved accuracy and recoil of M1903 Experimental
  • Made revolvers and the Howdah Pistol recover faster from dispersion
  • Flares no longer set the player on fire immediately after firing them while looking down
  • Reduced the damage of mortar shells when hitting an object immediately after firing
  • Fixed Martini-Henry dealing too much damage to most body parts. It is now affected by a 0.9 multiplier to the lower torso and upper arms and a 0.75 multiplier to the legs and forearms, like the other rifles with sweet-spot mechanics
  • Martini-Henry now resupplies 5 bullets at a time
  • Reduced No.3 revolver reload time from 2.666 s to 2.3 s
  • Increased No.3 rate of fire from 150 rpm to 164 rpm
  • Reduced Repetierpistole M1912 aimed stationary dispersion from 0.4 to 0.3
  • Reduced Repetierpistole M1912 horizontal recoil from 0.8 to 0.5
  • Increased Hellriegel first shot recoil multiplier from 1.8 to 2.0
  • Increased Hellriegel horizontal recoil from 0.76 to 0.8
  • Reduced MP18 first shot recoil multiplier from 2.1 to 1.8
  • Improved shotgun crosshair size and scaling
  • Sawed-Off shotgun now resupplies 4 rounds at a time
  • Reduced 12g Automatic dispersion increase per shot from 0.3 to 0.15
  • Fix for dispersion of Model 10-A Hunter decreasing too quickly
  • Fix for dispersion of Model 10-A Factory decreasing too slowly
  • Moved up damage drop-off from M97 Trench Gun Hunter, Model 10-A Factory and Hunter by 1
  • Reduced 12g Automatic post reload delay from 0.5 to 0.3
  • Improved hip fire of M1903 Experimental
  • Changed SMGs and LMGs to use damage curves
  • Huot, Lewis, M1909 and BAR minimum damage increased from 21 to 23
  • LMG damage drop-off happens at farther distances
  • Reduced effect of suppression on LMG vertical recoil
  • Changed LMG base ADS dispersion increase per shot from -0.12 to -0.085 so they are slightly more accurate on the first shots
  • Reduced Lewis horizontal recoil from 0.36 to 0.34
  • Reduced Huot horizontal recoil from 0.32 to 0.16
  • Reduced M1909 horizontal recoil from 0.3 to 0.24
  • Changed post reload delays on Gewehr 98 from 0.4 to 0.8 to better match animations
  • Changed post reload delays on SMLE from 0.8 to 0.6333 to better match animations
  • Changed post reload delays on M1903 from 0.8 to 0.7 to better match animations



We’ve reduced some of the inaccuracy added by the last update. Mortars will be more accurate when placed, and slightly more accurate during sustained fire. The damage amounts remain unchanged. We felt that it had become too difficult to hit even large targets like tanks, and the inaccuracy in combination with the damage adjustments to the airburst mortar reduced mortar effectiveness more than intended. In addition, in Hardcore players will now get the Large Map for aiming indirect fire weapons. Spotted players will not show on the map unless Minimap Spotting is enabled in Custom Games.


We’ve added a short cool down between syringe uses and added the ability to ignore the cooldown if near an ammo crate. Together a Medic and a Support can team up to quickly revive a large amount of soldiers. The cool down is minor, and is intended to only prevent the near instant revive of several soldiers in a very short time. Reviving a single soldier is unaffected. We feel this is a good balance to prevent “revive trains” from a single Medic, while not reducing the usefulness of revive, with a bonus of additional teamplay.

Ammo & Medical Crates

Medic and Support players should find it much more reliable and useful to deploy their Large Ammo and Medical crates. We’ve added additional healing and resupply power to those crates, so they serve more teammates before being depleted and being destroyed. Additionally, we’ve added a feature that will deploy the crates at the player’s feet if the space immediately in front is blocked by an object or slope. This should drastically reduce, but not entirely eliminate, the situation where a crate fails to deploy. It is still possible for the player to occupy a space where the crate cannot be deployed, for example a very tight corner or a steep slope.

Explosive Icons

We’ve updated the in-world icons for explosives to properly reflect their team, and to fully scale over distance so they don’t unnecessarily dominate the field of view, especially at close range. We’ve also identified an issue whereby it can be difficult to determine if a nearby grenade is in front or behind the player. This update does not include a fix for the issue, but we hope to address it in the future. Finally, we’ve implemented proper scaling on the large crates for both medic and support players, so their icons are not as obstructive at longer ranges.


Thanks to the Community for their feedback on Hardcore mode, we’ve introduced some additional changes in this Custom Game. A large map is now available, as in the base game. In Hardcore the map is will not show the position of objectives, players, etc. We intend for players in Hardcore to only have UI interfaces for things a real soldier could reliably know, for example: how many grenades he has left, but not how many bullets are left in his magazine. For this reason, we have decided to continue down the path without having kill confirmations or a kill log in Hardcore. However, we have added Team Kill confirmations as a nod to the need of accessibility and player learning. In BF1 we changed Hardcore from the reduced health of BF4 to increased bullet damage, in order to retain balanced explosion damage. In this update we’ve adjusted the damage amount in Hardcore from 200% to 125% damage. While on paper this looks like a huge change, 125% damage will still create far more lethal up close damage, for all kits, but will prevent bolt action rifles from being one hit kill at all ranges vs all body types. Other weapons will retain their intended ranges, while still being far more lethal than the base game. These changes help us steer Hardcore down the path of feeling like a faster, meaner, more realistic base game.

Stability & Performance

Stability and performance is always critical to us, and in this patch we’ve done a number of improvements to ensure a solid gameplay experience. Below are some of the major changes.

  • Fixed an issue that caused a hang when pressing J/K/L on console keyboard
  • Added a new Framerate Limiter option that limits the maximum framerate the game will run at to a specific amount. Limiting your framerate to a lower number can help improve performance if you are experiencing high CPU usage
  • CPU optimization to improve high framerate operation on high end video cards where there is no VRAM pressure
  • Fixed an issue where the game would sometimes crash when loading levels
  • Fixed an issue where the game would sometimes crash when dying in a vehicle
  • Fixed a server crash related to trip wires
  • Fixed an issue where outdated game clients could still connect to EA servers without receiving an error
  • PC: Forced v-sync to on during loading movies on PC to prevent screen tearing and stutters
  • PC: Fixed some issues that could lead to GPU hang on DX11
  • PC: Fixed ghosting issues
  • PC: Borderless full screen now works as intended
  • PC: Fixed an issue with full screen causing other windows to be resized and/or moved around
  • Xbox One: Fixed a rare VOIP related crash
  • Console: Tweaked dynamic resolution min cap scaling to improve GPU performance over loss of resolution



  • Monte Grappa, Suez, Ballroom Blitz & Argonne Forest - Made tweaks to certain areas of the map where attackers had a very difficult time capturing specific sectors
  • Fixed an issue where players could get team kills when killing an enemy who has joined on a friend in your team
  • Netcode improvements to apply pose changes faster. Before it was only applied when standing and going from stand to crouch. Now it is applied for all pose transitions and while walking as well
  • Wrecked Airship parts left behind by a destroyed airship should no longer occasionally kill soldiers
  • Fixed rubber banding issues and non-smooth movement of airplanes in MP
  • Slightly adjusted the matchmaking ruleset for Operations to reduce the chance of entering an Operation that is about to end
  • Re-worked how the behemoth enters the map in Operations game mode. The Behemoth will no longer appear if a team is in a significant lead. This affects both attackers and defenders in Operations
  • Defenders will no longer get a behemoth on a new level if attackers are on their last battalion
  • Reduced attacker behemoths to prevent them from getting one on each retry on second and third maps
  • Increased score difference between teams needed for behemoth to appear
  • Fixed camera jitter during deploy transition to airborne vehicles
  • Binoculars in Single Player are now working if click-to-zoom option is selected. In multiplayer if click-to-zoom is selected, the zoom clicks are not lost anymore if happening during weapon switch or reload transitions
  • Added kick of player if spawning with restricted weapons to prevent usage of weapons not allowed in Custom Games
  • Split the click/hold-to-zoom weapon option into separate ones for vehicles and soldiers
  • Fixed an issue where the player was not being awarded score for capturing a conquest point after exiting and reentering the capture area
  • Reduced mortar dispersion increase per shot from 3 to 2.75
  • Prevented the possibility to spawn with the wrong class when switching class at the time of deploy
  • Fixed an issue where grenades didn't rotate correctly or at all when thrown from the player
  • Fixed an issue with camera transitions when dying
  • Fixed an issue with horse twitching from explosives
  • Fixed an issue where trying to place a limpet charge on a door resulted in a crooked, floating charge instead
  • Fixed an issue where prone aiming constraints were not properly applied after respawn
  • Fixed an issue where players sometimes became invisible when exiting certain vehicles
  • Fixed an issue where soldiers would get stuck on top of vehicles
  • Fixed an issue where captured flags could be stretched by shooting them with shell projectiles
  • Fixed 3p stuttering of Behemoth when viewed from the ground
  • Fixed an issue with the placed collision on the tunnel ceiling on Monte Grappa
  • Fixed an issue where the rifle on cavalry would appear with the sabre animation
  • Fixed an issue where destroying turrets on behemoths with explosives would sometimes disable the wrong turrets
  • Fixed an issue which caused part destruction on airships to not work as intended
  • Fixed an issue where Elite Classes in vehicles or stationary turrets took the same amount of damage as normal soldiers
  • For players using the click-to-zoom option, sprint is now properly interrupted on zoom and re-engaged on un-zoom
  • Fortress turret wrecks now stay forever, or until a new turret respawns to prevent issues with vehicle and soldier collision
  • Minor adjustments to Ballroom Blitz battlement gate damage behavior
  • Destruction tuning to avoid floating lamps
  • Adjusted Sinai desert rock bridge debris damage and health for consistency
  • Fixed object on Ballroom Blitz that improperly caused collision damage to tanks
  • Fixed strange looking enter animation on QF1 AA Stationary Weapon
  • Added more spawn variations to the C flag in Conquest on Empire's Edge
  • Soldiers can no longer enter the tower on Ballroom Blitz after it has been destroyed
  • Grenade throws will no longer be canceled by pressing Zoom while holding the grenade button. Instead they can be canceled with Reload
  • Fixed flare projectiles penetrating aircraft
  • Flare projectile now breaks glass
  • Soldiers can no longer switch to rifle grenades when they are out of ammo. The C96 Carbine now automatically switches to secondary when out of ammo
  • Fixed the beam reticle for the Cei-Rigotti showing the cross reticle instead
  • Corrected occlusion and collision issues on Ballroom Blitz
  • Resized the Ring Reticle for improved shooting experience
  • The mortar can no longer be deployed on bushes
  • Fixed an issue where sometimes matchmaking from recommendation did not show the loading screen
  • Fixed an issue where players would sometimes be taken to an earlier check point when rebooting the console while playing the campaign


  • Improved overall UI performance and stability
  • Fixed an issue of Medics not seeing 3D revive/minimap death icons of team mates who died behind them until they look at the body
  • Hardcore now shows team kills in the score log
  • Made it simpler to report offensive emblems by adding reporting functionality in the EoR scoreboard
  • Improved latency in End of Round when scrolling through the scoreboard
  • Fixed an issue where vehicle crosshairs would disappear in Hardcore when using the Armored Train or Dreadnaught
  • Gadgets now take priority if pressing dpad up and dpad left or right at the same time
  • Fixed an issue with the Operation Outcome screen that caused it to display the wrong information about the result of the Operation
  • Crosshair visibility can now be adjusted in the gameplay options
  • Fixed an exploit where a player could steal Squad Leader status from an active squad leader
  • Fixed an issue with the number of service stars always showing as zero in the customize screen
  • a gas mask in stationary weapons and other vehicle seats where it was previously hardcoded
  • Fixed an issue where customization submenus would automatically close while selecting equipment
  • Fixed an issue with the current soldier not displaying in the squad screen in Team Deathmatch
  • Squads with players in a party now stay unlocked if there are only two players in the party
  • Prevent squads having too many players when running map rotations with mixed game modes
  • Joystick now works without setting the controller layout to Custom
  • Fixed an issue causing delays in game chat
  • Fixed an issue where hints would get stuck on the screen
  • Skins unlocked from Battlepacks now properly indicate they are for all patterns of a specific weapon
  • Fixed an issue where friendly mortars would sometimes appear as deploy points
  • Player can now select squad spawn points with the dpad
  • Fixed an issue where a tech hang was caused by joining an Operation's session while in progressive installation
  • Fixed an issue where no error messages were displayed when accepting a Multiplayer invite during progressive installation while playing
  • Fixed an issue where joining a multiplayer game invite resulted in a black background
  • Fixed an issue where no queue information was provided after accepting an invite to a full server, while on another server with the option menu open
  • Fixed an issue where the round bonus score bar in EoR personal tab was counting up and then disappearing
  • Fixed an issue where spamming the options button in EoR lead to a technical hang in the next round
  • Fixed an issue with Model 10-A Slug that was tracked as Artillery kills in the EOR screen
  • Fixed an issue where the EoR countdown stopped when quickly navigating through tabs
  • Fixed an issue where a tech-hang was caused after selecting the shovel and bayonet in Weapons and gadgets
  • PC: Added server info in the "..." menu
  • PC: Pressing "ESC" while in customize now properly takes you back to the deploy screen
  • PC: Exposed Gas Mask key bind in vehicle section. This allows you to rebind the button to put on
  • PS4: Fixed an issue where User Created Media Restricted users were able to see server names created by other users
  • Xbox One: Fixed an issue where the LB/RB buttons had no functionality in the news menu


  • Fixed so that master and music volume fades nicely to the saved settings when starting the game
  • Fixed an issue with in-world sound heard briefly when going into the Deploy Screen

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>PC: Borderless full screen now works as intended

Funny because it was working before patch and now it doesn't, unless that was their intention.

Dice is trash.

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Well how do you get into the game with just the standard issue rifles? They should just come out with a "Historical Operations Mode" where there's just scopeless bolt actions. No machine guns, no tanks, and most of all, NO snipers.

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Do team killers get kicked after x many kills ?

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Still didn't fix loading. I overthought WW1 hype YouTube video and i hate Battlefield 1, Looks good, but gameplay is boring.

Can we get Battlefield 5 before you mess up another Star Wars Dice/EA?

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Some good changes ... Not sure who cried for them to nerf Hardcore mode though !!

Stand corrected ... The Game plays really well !!

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Meanwhile Activi$ion adds updates for more ways to purchase supply drops/microtransactions without actually fixing their POS game. Idiots will still use their parents credit cards to get them.

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@sonypony4eva: If one of my kids were able to use my credit cards to buy things - I wouldn't call him an idiot .. he'd have to be quite cunning to get around parental locks and such like on the various entertainment systems we use at home .. and have access to my card details .. He would still likely get grounded if he pulled it off though and made to pay of whatever bill he ran up !!

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ton of changes to a game with a few repetitive MP, speaking of logic...

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@phili878: There are enough maps !! The changes are welcome - Well I only play hardcore but constantly improving and listening to the gamers is a good thing !!

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So what exactly is the grenade crossbow? Is it a universal gadget, or specific to a certain class? Or is it a kit like flame trooper/sentry? What grenades will it be able to launch? The one that is loaded in the image looks like a smoke grenade, with frags displayed next to it, is that all? Regardless, I am so freakin happy about the vehicle spawn updates, I can't tell you how many times I would either not be able to repair my tank because I spawned with the wrong kit, or spawn as a pilot class without a plane. I really hope this fixes the issue I have with not being able to fire the flamethrowers on the flame tanks too.

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@goldfalsebond: It's for the support class. There is a frag and an HE version to use.

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So, nothing to improve the load times.

Last time i played I had time to go to the kitchen, make a sandwich, some nesquick, come back to the couch, eat the sandwich, drink the Nesquick, realize it was a mistake to mix chocolate milk with avocado, jalapenos and mayo, take a dump and when I came back, I pressed the X button and got the wonderful message:


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@tlpina: I have BF1 Installed on an SSD and the load times drop dramatically !! invest in one !!

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@tlpina: Gaming 2016 - and yes, bad combo with the Nesquick. Thank god it wasn't Yoohoo though!

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@tlpina: ROFLMAO. You win the internet for the day.

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@tlpina: Load times are long because the puny drives in the Xbox One and PS4 are ridiculously slow. They're laptop drives. Their read speeds top out at 70-80 MB/s and the random access times aren't much better. Not only that, the CPU clocks are slow as well and the system RAM is shared with the GPU.. These maps are huge. 3-5 GB a piece. That's why loading is so slow and realistically I don't see that improving anytime soon.

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@Rushaoz: That's why I'm glad I am using a Solid State Drive, hopefully that will cut down on load times really well.

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@idkhowtoplay007: I'm using one as well. I installed BF1 and only BF1 on a spare 250 GB Samsung evo 850 I have hanging around. Load times were cut a little but nothing drastic which I was bummed out about. And the menus still lag but not as much as they did before. I have an Xbox One S. I'm trading it to someone for the OG Xbox One. It's out of warranty so I'm gonna rip it apart and replace the internal drive with the SSD. I'm wondering if having the OS running on an SSD will cut alot of the BS out.

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@Rushaoz: That's kinda sucks it didn't lower load times that much cause I have the same SSD as well. Not a fan of the Xbox One S?

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@idkhowtoplay007: I like the Xbox One S. Slick looking console. Quiet, stays cool and has a 4k BR player. UI defintely needs work but so does the PS4's. Unfortunately that's all the good things I can say about it. I bought it about two months ago and it's been collecting dust ever since. The only games I had any interest in playing on it were Sunset Overdrive and the Rare Collection. Everything else like Forza, Gears and Quantum Break I already had on my gaming PC. So far it's been an absolute waste of money. I originally bought it so I can play Battlefield 1 with friends but the performance is so bad that I end up rage quitting lol

I like to buy consoles for first party exclusives and IMO, just like the 360, the Xbox One turned out to be a multiplatform gaming machine with not enough titles of it's own to set it apart.

I don't understand Microsoft. They own so many IPs and do absolutely nothing with them. What I wouldn't do to play a Crimson Skies sequel.

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@Rushaoz: I understand cause I bought one too, had it for a month and sold it. I loved it too, but I wish I didn't cause the money I spent could have gone towards a GTX 1080 or something. Yeah I buy consoles for the same reasons, some of the games on the PS4 and Xbox One are great, but I decided to transition over to PC instead. Can't wait for The Switch lol! Your right, Microsoft even owns the rights to Rare which made Goldeneye 007, and they remastered it for Xbox 360 but it was scrapped. : (

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@idkhowtoplay007: Yep that's why I'm trading my One S for my uncles One. He's gonna throw some cash on top and I get a nice mint condish One that's out of warranty. I can rip it open and start having some real fun with it haha.

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@Rushaoz: LOL, that's awesome! To bad you can't put in a new CPU and graphics card too, maybe you can not sure

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When quitting a game it takes still ages before you back in the menu (xbox one).

Also like to see the return of conquest small with 40 players. Some 64 maps do run a bit sluggish.

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@wimkuip: A bit is a huge understatement. FPS drops to the 30s in 64 player matches and it fluctuates so much that it screws with my aiming. I really wish DICE would include a 30 FPS cap option. But you're right they should put small conquest back in.

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@Rushaoz: hi, totally agree, sometimes it gets unplayable with these fps drops. BF4 has the same issue with 64 player maps, DICE was never able to solve this, the Xbox is not able to handle it because it's hardware is not powerful enough. For this we need to wait for project Scorpio I am afraid:-(

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@wimkuip: I'm not sure Scorpio will help. The problem with BF4 and BF1 and future Battlefield titles is that they're very CPU dependent. The CPUs in these consoles are just flat out weak. Running at 1.6 GHz on the PS4 and 1.75 GHz on the Xbone. To top it off they're AMD CPUs that a few generations behind. AMD CPUs suffer from horrible single core performance. A quad core Intel CPU mops the floor with an octacore AMD CPU in PC gaming and this is the reason why. We're screwed until all console gamers realize that a $400 console isn't going to provide PC level performance. Only when they realize this will they be willing to shell out more money for a better performing game experience.

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@Rushaoz: hi, thx for your detailed answer, it makes perfectly sense, I am able to run BF4 64 players on my 5 year old pc with Intel I7 without any issues, Hope MS makes sure the Scorpio gets enough cpu power so that we can see a notable difference.

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@wimkuip: I think so. Or atleast I hope so. Microsoft hasn't revealed anything about the Scorpio but if the PS4 Pro performs a good 15-20 FPS better than the PS4 than the Scorpio "should" have no problem running it at a rock solid 60 FPS.

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I would like a little more info regarding player count on the Operation menu. I don't know if there's just a lack of players in my region, but I'm sick of matchmaking finding me an 'ideal' server, then I have to sit through the loading screens and that annoying intro that you can't skip, only to discover that the server is empty.

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Well, I said I'd give them to this patch to fix the hit registration issues, but it seems like it's a problem well beyond their skill to address. I'm just going to resolve to uninstall, consider the purchase a wash, and opt to never purchase another DICE product. First- and last-time customer all over something that I'm finding out has actually been around since BF3.

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nice to see the landship getting some improvements. it has the most amazing design but you never saw them on the field really. also they're really fun to drive with friends but the heavy tank always ended up as a better choice - since it was just ..better.

the patch looks good in general.

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  • Added kick of player if spawning with restricted weapons to prevent usage of weapons not allowed in Custom Games

    Instead of just locking out the use of those weapons? Odd choice... The regularity of these changes is welcome though, and there are some good ones in there.
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What I wanted to see at the very top of the list, but didn't: "Fixed the mind-numbingly ridiculous load times."

I enjoy playing this game, but there's the key word: PLAYING. Not waiting for it to load. Having to wait multiple, multiple minutes to play another 10-20 minute match really gets tiresome. I got so sick of the load times that 2 days ago I stopped playing BF1 and went back to playing CoD. Say what you will about CoD, but at least they got that right. I'll give BF1 another chance, but it's not looking promising.

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@jarhead996: Its not something they can fix ... it depends on your system and where the game is installed .. I moved the Game from internal HD to SSD and now loads a lot quicker!!

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@jarhead996: agreed, I play BF1 on the Xbox one. I like to play conquest. Normally I start with Amiens, when connecting to a game it takes about 2 a 3 minutes to load. Most of the time the round is almost over when I am in the game.

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@jarhead996: I'm exactly the same. I don't dislike BF1 at all - it's a ton of fun, but those load times, on PS4 as well, have pushed me toward IW.

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@jarhead996: thats something wrong with your PC man. it loads fast on mine.

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@infantryman9887: I'm playing on Xbox One

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@jarhead996: Because the graphic are so good it takes a long time to load. However, on my PC with an SSD, it only takes like 10-12 seconds to load a map.

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@ILSATS: Not bad , i have it for PS4 but haven't even tried it yet. Installed it a while ago but never find time to start it and now i see i need to download a huge update .

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@jarhead996: My bad. i didn't know that lol

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Players may now bayonet charge while reloading or when out of ammo with their weapon. The reload will be aborted if the player still has rounds in the magazine. If the weapon is empty, the reload will restart automatically at the end of the charge.

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How hard is it to get Hardcore Right?

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FYI the updateon pc for me is 3.36GB

Proof from my PC:

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ps4 party chat also crash in game a lot..

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I like this patch. Several good changes. Did I miss the part about fixing the long delays to quit a room and/or enter an existing game?

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I'm glad to hear they realase this patch and fix a lot of bugs. Good to them.

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"Fixed an issue with the Operation Outcome screen that caused it to display the wrong information about the result of the Operation"

Would first love to know what any of the scoring X/33 meant at the end of Operations..

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