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How serious are the PS4's Blue Light of Death and broken hardware reports?

Seemingly isolated issues frustrate thousands of consumers.

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Just a few days after launch, the PlayStation had already earned a dubious honor: a nickname for its potentially fatal flaw. What some users are calling the Blue Light of Death, mimicking the infamous Red Ring of Death that plagued the launch of the Xbox 360 for years, has forced hundreds of PlayStation 4 owners to send their systems back to Sony and vent their frustrations in online reviews and forums. But just how widespread is the issue?

While it's impossible to accurately gauge how far the claims of broken systems extend, prior to launch Sony shared that their expected failure rate for the console was 0.4%. To put that in perspective, that's about 1 in 250. With over one million PlayStation 4 systems sold, that comes to about 4,000 potentially broken systems. While that's a small number compared to the 996,000 that do work, that's little consolation if you're one of the 4,000 affected waiting to mail a $400 paperweight back to Sony.

This is also the first console-launch since the wide spread of social media, where users can quickly and easily share their opinions with a world-wide audience ready to listen. And studies have shown that people are much more likely to share negative experiences over positive ones. We've grown accustomed to publicly berating companies that offer a subpar service and crowd-sourcing our troubleshooting needs, asking friends on Twitter or Facebook for advice before trying to go through any official channels.

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Even still, the PlayStation forums have several constantly growing posts dedicated to broken PS4 systems, and the Amazon review thread is divided between 5 star and 1 star reviews, with most of the 1 star reviews specifically calling out the flashing blue light.

Exploring Sony's Customer Service

A thread on the official PlayStation forums walks users through potential fixes for the flashing blue light, but if that doesn't work, the best advice I've read online is to take the PS4 to a Sony store. Official Sony stores can sometimes perform maintenance on-site, and they're generally able to offer immediate replacements without having to wait to mail anything back and forth.

While the PS4 I ordered from Amazon has been working just fine, I wanted to find out what the customer experience would be like if my system didn't work. So after reading up on all the troubleshooting I would have done, I tried accessing the live chat system on the Sony support site. Over the course of an hour, I was only put in line to talk to a representative three times. Each time I was queued at either number 16 or 17 and given a 5-minute wait time. After two minutes, I was booted from the queue with no explanation.

Not a great start, so I tried calling the support system by phone. Although the automated voice on the other end told me that the wait could exceed one hour, I was patched through to a live person in 28 minutes.

I asked about the process for returning a console that doesn't work and has a flashing blue light. First, I was told about the possible Sony store return policy I mentioned earlier, but if no stores were in my area, the representative would collect my shipping info. I'd have a return box in two days (or I could ship it to Sony myself right now via UPS), and after trying to repair the machine, they'd send me a repaired unit or replacement in 5-7 days.

The representative told me that, outside of the flashing blue light, she'd been able to fix most issues for users over the phone. However, she couldn't verify how widespread the irreparable issues were nor what was causing the blue light issue. The representative was incredibly courteous, knowledgeable, and almost made up for the wasted time I spent waiting to chat with someone online.

Ongoing Research

Maybe the GameSpot office and I have been exceedingly lucky. The consoles we were sent by Sony for review worked fine, and held up to the brutal 12-hour gaming sessions they endured for our livestreams. The system I ordered from Amazon has been on and online for hours without a stutter, and all of my acquaintances that ordered a PS4 have been streaming weekend play sessions and posting images of their games.

But even if Sony's estimates are correct and the issues users are facing only affect 0.4%, it's obvious that a vocal minority is having an effect on public perception of the system. And the customer service experience on Sony's side could be handled better, especially for compensating the gamers who aren't near a Sony store and who might not have a better course of action than mailing their system back and waiting for a replacement.

For the potentially thousands of gamers who have had to spend the weekend after launch troubleshooting a system and waiting to talk to customer service, there's a lot of justifiable unhappiness. But on the bright side, it doesn't seem quite as serious as some reports seem to suggest. GameSpot will continue looking into these issues to determine just how widespread they are and if they affect more than Sony's projected 0.4%.

If you've run into any issues, good or bad, we'd like to hear about them in the comments below. But if you're looking for technical support, you probably don't want to ask the commenters. For that, I'd recommend heading to the PlayStation support site.

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This article is flame-bait ha ha...

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not as serious as the problems on the xbone

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Says who? you? I dont trust Sony Hipster Douches...

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I don't think you could describe either fanboys as "hipsters".

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No worries, no matter whats going wrong with a few thousand Sony consoles; rest assured it coundnt be worst than Xbox Ones issue, barely being able to read Disc, or even come on for that matter... /;

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<< LINK REMOVED >> lol how is that any different than sonys problems? DOA ps4s? so much denial lol pitiful


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@danbodamnit @DevinC12 The difference is xboxes are at 50% while ps4s are at 4%... /;

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@LoatheMe Like I said, xboxes are trash.. Your defending a 54% failure rate, that's pretty pathetic, & so ridiculous news stations even fed on it.. Xboxes still use AA batteries for their controllers, I mean seriously, look around, PS4 has easily DOUBLED Xboxes sales, its not even an competition at this point... Argue with that fanboys... /;

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Haha. Listen to this angry illiterate little 12 year old. SOLID FACTS "DUDINE"! LIKE WHEN I WATCHED SOME TOTALLY IMPARTIAL VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE! THAT'S PRACTICALLY SCIENCE!

I guess he doesn't have to worry about things like PSN getting hacked and his credit card information stolen though when it's all on mommy and daddys card anyway.

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hopefully us europeans dont go threw the same problem

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i hope nothing like this happens to the UK release, but the media is hyping the problem more than it really is

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I was one of the unlucky ones to get a bad unit. We set in a Walmart store for 8 hours just to get our hands on one. Got home about 1 in the morning and it lasted a whopping 1 1/2 hours. We tried every trick we could. Different hdmi cables, different tv's, and even the trick of pulling the hard drive out. Nothing would get it to come back on and output to the screen. I had to set on hold for over two hours just to talk to someone with Playstation. We wound up spending another $50 to get an extended warranty b/c if it broke that quick I'm sure it will break down again. We had to wait for them to fedex us a special box, then ship it back to them, which is a major pain b/c we live about 45 minutes to the nearest Fedex location, luckily my Dad was heading to the city and dropped it off for us, if not I would have had to taken off work just to ship the stupid thing. We are now a week into release and still have no PS4. It is so aggravating to see commercials with all the games we own and can't even play. I wish they would do something for those of us that this happened to, but I doubt we get anything for all our trouble.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> don't feel too bad, with games like Knack and Snoozezone you're not really missing out.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah and with a boring QTE fest like Ryse and an ugly framerate dropping mess like DR3, Xbox One people aren't missing much either.

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Looking for clan members. If interested send a request to clan name: ERG8, or send a message to EatRGet8 on PlayStation network.

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I was able to fix the PS4 Blue Light of Death. Let me know if it works for you:

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<< LINK REMOVED >> just curious but how can connecting or disconnecting the hdmi cable while the Tv/PS4 are on damage either? I wasn't aware of any harm that could come from this action.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> on the play station forums someone said that connecting an HDMI cable to devices that are on could damage the devices. This method worked for me but I just wanted people to be aware of the risks.

So far a few people have told me this method works. I haven't seen instances where the fix doesn't work.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Sorry, but you make absolutely no sense.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> they want a console when it launches not ready to w8 & when the bad system comes they critcised the company......

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah but if the only perception of the console they have is of a broken paper weight on their desk why would they post a stellar review?

What you are suggesting is that unless you have good things to say about the console don't post a review which is worse in my eyes and is skewing the data even more overall than people posting negative reviews.

Sure if someone goes online and blasts Sony in a stupid irrational and childish way then fair enough I can understand but if someone is simply pointing out that their consoles was straight up broken after they paid a considerable amount of money for it then they have as much right as you to post what they want about it.

You do know what reviews are for don't you? It is so people know what they are buying. If there are 1000 reviews and 4 of them are negative chances are they aren't going to give a shit are they......unless they are idiots.

If there are 1000 reviews and 900 of them are negative, you would have to be an apocalyptic moron to go anywhere near it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> klepp...you could just wait to post a review until you get a working unit...

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yeah in the perfect world everyone would wait at least six months of heavy use of any item before posting a review but they don't.

And even then if they simply ignore the fact that their first attempt was just straight up broken then that is a poor review as far as I'm concerned.

The fact is people paid a lot of money for the console and the console was broken when it arrived. Whether they should have smashed the reviews with their hatred is one thing but the fact is it was the PS4 which was broken out of the box and ignoring it is bad practice in my mind. I WANT to know if people have had broken consoles, so I am aware of the chance of mine being broken also.

The only thing people are guilty of is venting their hatred in the wrong place/way. But considering this is the internet it could have been a lot worse.

Besides if someone gets a working console how does it effect them what other people post in reviews?

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I have been playing my PS4 since launch every chance I get...really working it. I haven't had a problem.

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horrible fan noise

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"come on sony, why do you suck so bad"...the words of a sonyfan

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Hello! Imagine the fear for those international buyers, like me, to pay US$400 on a paperweight.. asking relatives in US to buy it.. cuz right now i feel terrified to murfy's law... I will have to postpone the more I can to garantee the correction of this error.

Now, imagine a US$1800 Sony paperweight (like it costs in Brazil)..

And if Sony projections are right (4million sold until 12/31), those are 16 thousand paperwight.. OMG!

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anybody knows when sony is planning to launch the next updated ps5?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> some years before they launch ps6 i think.... but don't worry, they havent announced the ps7 so we´re cool.

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anybody knows when sony is planning to launch the next updated ps4 stocks, with no hardware failures?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> thatswhy always w8 for 2 to 3 months after the launch till that time many gamers already purcahsed consoles so the new slot has better hardware & patches fix most of the software issues.

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I shouldn't have to say this but... Everything has failures. 400 out of hundreds of thousands.. That's a retardly low amount. Xbox 360s was much much higher. Actually it was almost a certainty. Not if but when. People sure gobbled those up :p

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<< LINK REMOVED >> It is because the first ones to die were relatively exposed ones. Like the guy who won his console and got it early only to have it dead when it arrived.

If those sorts of things hadn't happened, then the number of failures would have been drown in the sea of awesomeness.

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Thats why you dont buy a console in launch! You wait 2 years problem will solved, u get the Slim edition, you get it cheaper and the best titles are out! Now only Killzone matters!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> 2 years might be pushing it a bit. I'll wait until I've heard of people playing their consoles for 24 hours with a douve over it with no problems and then I'll buy one.

If some shit starts to go down chances are they will start to make themselves known in the next month or so. Like the Xbox 360 problems were obvious from the start. I'd only had mine 24 hours when some solder melted and it died.

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