How Fallout 76 Is Changing Due To Beta Feedback

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Now Playing: How to Rebuild in a real life Fallout 76 World - Reality Check

Fallout 76 has just one beta test left, and Bethesda has issued a statement regarding some fixes it is already planning based on feedback from the testing. Some of the tweaks are more technical in nature, while others address unintended bugs that could severely hamper the game experience. For other points, Bethesda explains why it isn't intending to implement certain requests, at least not right away.

On the technical end, the company is planning to support ultra-wide 21:9 displays sometime post-launch. It won't be implementing a field-of-view slider, however, citing concerns of it breaking animations and causing clipping. PC players are said to have requested a push-to-talk option for voice chat, and the studio said it will look into adding this feature. It also said that some common social menus and friends features have already been addressed, and it promised to fix various exploits with a future update.

For gameplay, Bethesda says it plans to increase the stash size. "While the Stash size at 400 weight limit can get easier to deal with over time, we do plan on increasing it in the future," it said. Some beta players reported that the hunger bar would never replenish, and Bethesda says this has been fixed. Finally, the occurrence of random gunshot or other loud noises near Appalachia will be addressed shortly after launch.

These are the most prominent issues Bethesda chose to focus on, but the company has been clear that it sees Fallout 76 as an ongoing project. In an open letter to the fans just before the beta launched, it suggested that this was just the beginning and it would need everyone's help to find the bugs and help them build the game.

Fallout 76 is certainly ambitious as the franchise's first connected persistent world, but we have some concerns about the sense of emptiness it creates. Once the full game launches, we may see a different picture emerge. One factor that's already changed during the beta is the addition of the in-game store, which has a full inventory but doesn't allow for purchases yet.

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franizarduy

if you preoreder this shit you should feel very sad ......on the other hand you deserve to play this garbage of a game, because of course you are encouriging these kinds of practices.

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Slash_out

"How 'shitgame' is changing due to beta feedback" is just media PR.

It's to make people feel good "look we listened." And what is changed? Nothing, just some bug fixes and graphical options added.

All stuff that would have been done anyways, even without a beta. This is not changing the game. It's fixing it... partly.

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jumalan75

@Slash_out: I have an idea for a patch

Add a private/8 player coop server option

Add about 1000 npcs with scaleable sp/coop missions

Boom millions in sales

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jinzo9988

For gameplay, Bethesda says it plans to increase the stash size. "While the Stash size at 400 weight limit can get easier to deal with over time, we do plan on increasing it in the future," it said.

Be very careful about what you wish for. I smell monetization afoot.

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Speranza318

PC master race, no UWHD support and I am sure no SLI support. Pointless PvP system, and an open world PvE with next to no NPCs. Already saw the beta gameplay...can't wait for this one! /sarcasm

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FecalMatters

@Speranza318: Why would they support SLI? Jeezus IT IS DEAD get over it.

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Speranza318

@fecalmatters: Lawl! Nice troll. SLI is still alive, and will be even more so now that NVIDIA's stock died due to having too much stock in video cards and no more data mining required for cryptocurrency. Watch how fast SLI gets supported again to sell those extra cards.

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FecalMatters

@Speranza318: lol you are telling me whats out of date, and you just said "lawl"

I win. SLI is done, just like it was before.

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Speranza318

@fecalmatters: Almost a good comeback, and nice logic. I'll continue enjoying my 1080 SLIs, you keep hating on SLI. Doesn't matter to me.

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FecalMatters

@Speranza318: Im sorry you are in such denial. I was merely stating the fact that nvidia is moving away from SLI, and SLI in general has absolutely laughable support. A kids feature.

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Speranza318

@fecalmatters: Sorry you can't afford a big boy computer, kid. Stick to your console games and keep up to date on your knowledge from under your troll bridge.

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FecalMatters

@Speranza318: Dude, have you even like... done your research? 4x? GONE 3x? GONE. Gee I wonder whats up next. Now shut the F*CK up.

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Speranza318

@fecalmatters: Wait wait, did I just anger the troll? This is amazing. The kid resorted to cursing because he can't use logic anymore hahaha. BTW, 2x SLI is all you need for 4K, 3 and 4x SLI were for 2GB cards that just drew unnecessary power and 1 card can do the work of 4 prior SLI cards with 1/4 the power draw. Crawl back in your hole. BTW, best part of all of our "argument" is that fallout 4 supported SLI, so why wouldn't this new fallout title support it? It's the same engine. Devs are just lazy..which was my original point before you tried to troll me. But please, curse at me and tell me I'm wrong. I will keep eating your tears up.

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FecalMatters

@Speranza318: Dude youve got some serious issues. holy shit

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Justicar_1

Well, I don't know if they are going to be able to fix all the issues that plague this beta with so little time left before launch. I've pre-ordered but I'm concern with what I've seen so far. It rang clear to me the description some one made of the game "It looks like the multi-player component of Fallout 4" and no NPCs through out the game? and many other things that look kind of fishy.

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spacemanspiff94

@justicar_1: What platform do you play on? I'm on PS4 and only had occasional frame rate issues. Ran great majority of the time.

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Justicar_1

@spacemanspiff94: I have a PS4 Pro, but I played it on my Xbone X.

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NavyIS8896

Don't believe what I'm saying. Hmmm... all you have to do read all the comments and it's pretty much self explanatory. This is the frustration of people when they're lied to about a product, and feel helpless into solving the issue. They pretty much vent and blame it on everything in between. Anyone in the BioWare community knows this by first hand. I'm seeing a trend that is just out of this world that with this games there really shouldn't be this much frustration and anger on Triple A products in the video game industry. There excuses are way out of hand and unrealistic. I'm ready to start a campaign of my own. How far it will get me, who knows. As a Persian Gulf War Vet and a video game player it's difficult to swallow and accept their behavior to fans, players and artist who want what they pay for. it's like charging a $100 for a big mac and saying it's a new version or better, but made with the same old ingredients the one made for $3. True you don't have to buy the $100 version, but the information is a lie. it's not made with new ingredients or newer anything. A $3 burger sold at $100, because we make it acceptable. I'm not for that. That $100 burger better taste like something not from this world. :)

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NavyIS8896

you have to read my last comment to understand this comment. Ok, now this bug issue. bugs, bugs, bugs, and more bugs every year a new game or a new version of a franchise game comes out. Well, I hate to be the so call "Troll" here, but these bugs aren't what they seem, but an actual sign of how the game was made and how long it took to make it. Now, the trend is to stay out of trouble is for companies to reply that consumers will actually believe. "new technology." BS! Now, how long is it going to take before people start realize this and actually stand up to them? Well, probably a long time since once people believe in something so truly it's difficult for them to separate, which is what they're counting on. More, easy money. Like taking a sucker a way from a baby, of course without the temper tantrum, :) but even then they know how to deal with that issue and that is a pacifier. With "Mod Makers", I can understand the bug issues, and sometimes mod makers will address these as soon as they can even when it's out on their spare time. Now, big Industries like EA, Bethesda, Obsidian, Rock Star, and the others as well shouldn't really have bug issues. Now spare me your excuse why these companies have bug issues, because again they're not true. The technology these people have today to develop games for the most point is out of the reach of everyday game players, well unless your financially equip. If that's the case they would be making games for themselves, hell I know, I would. So, where's the proof? Well, the PC industry is where the proof is. You can have the best damn computer on the market and it won't improve a game much. Sure, you may get faster frame rates and some higher graphic detail, but, not much more than what the developers had already coded in. So, you get this bug issue, all over the place saying what the hell? So, here it is people. A sever bug issue means, the game was done quickly, and if made with a new engine, most likely an experiment or they didn't really know how to work. BioWare comes into point. Now, the consumers weren't aware of this or aren't being told since there aren't really any laws to protect the consumers. Hell, for all we know they could be lying and using old technology to save money and tell consumers to just deal with it. Consumers don't really know when it comes to these games, because of the secrecy within the companies. So, what do the bugs really mean? Just this, they're made cheaply, quickly, and with a lower end tech than what is really out there on PC or console. So, if a company says they spent five years on a game it's a lie, most likely one to two years and four to six months tweaking it before a made up deadline. Perfect example; again Andromeda by EA, and BioWare. Practically lied about the entire make-up of the game, the development, the engine, experimenting, the time, the staff, wow... on and on. Which made perfect sense why they were so quiet about everything in the start to near opening date. This is why you see better art work and mods than the original developers. Because, they spent the time to make it that way, when the original shouldn't be a low end product in all aspects of video game development. They're making this acceptable when it shouldn't be. I love how they're doing this, but if you're intelligent it's b.s. right from the start. "Movies." Ah, yes the comparison. Well, this only has to do with a consumers opinion and preference, not quality. Classification of movies a, b, and c, take your pick. You watch a 'b' movie you can tell it's a low budget movie. You watch an 'a' movie you know your watching an 'a' movie. Whether or not you liked it has nothing to do with it. It is a fact that Triple A video developers are making games that are low budget for high end profits for investors. This is why they don't care much about the end product, because they're not game players, they're game developers. This is why there so much confliction between game developers and game players about what should be in and out of games.

You spend a hundred dollars on a game for early release they don't care if you suffer with a game that is nearly impossible to play, because of all the glitches, bugs, and most deplorable art one can see even the most sophisticated computer at NASA can't even fix, well accept it. Why? Because the company says so. You chose to buy it, you chose to buy something you might not like, you chose to believe all they're videos, and hype that this was a quality game, you chose, you chose. This is there excuse that allows them to make underbudget games at high budget prices. We can no longer use that excuse anymore of "don't buy it" to allow them to continue with misinformation about their products.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: Thanks navyis8896! You've said it right! You've told them and us gamer's are done with their second class 'b' games and charging pre-order triple A prices! Man, if these guys were car manufactures the cars couldn't be driven off the assembly line! Thank you for your honest opinion and for saving me the money I would have wasted on purchasing this game. I'm with you and I really believe we need to get a true 'Gamer's Resistance' move going to tell these Multi-million-dollar greedy Developers we're not going to purchase these half ass products any more. Remember when they tried to bring the console version of Tiger Woods Golf to the PC? EA had to eat it! every one wanted their money back, and they got it! I'm sick of great games being bled through just for freaking profit! Like you said these Developers are just out for the quick buck and don't even try to make it workable, playable or even fun! What ever happened to their integrity, honesty, enjoyment of bringing a great game to us gamer's? Once again, THANKS, I'll save my money for the day they decide to make a real complete game without so called Beta bugs, bugs, bugs that should have been corrected before the Beta came out!

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NavyIS8896

This "new 'forever' theory" is a new complicated buy to win. Bethesda had said that this is not what they are doing, but EA had said the same thing in there new open world in the Star Wars game along with the huge FAILURE with ANDROMEDA. So, far every article about Bethesda points that Bethesda are hiding their true intentions behind the "forever" play format. If you were a developer why would you ever conceive such a thing? Developers are getting tired of "Franchise" titles and continuations. So, what they're trying to do is please the money "investors" more than the gamers, by making these "Franchise" games into something where they don't have to continue making extension or DLC added games. BioWare is going this route too with the Mass Effect franchise or soon to be. Investors want more return since the Developing companies are relying on their investments to keep them afloat. Bethesda know it can't reach new game players with Fall Out Franchise so they need to come up with a new concept for the franchise for the franchise fans from becoming irate and causing disturbance in the "force". The "forever" format really isn't a "new" concept, but one that's been avoided by many developers from the past, because they hadn't had the technology or the resources to pour into the game that could actually run, well "forever". However, a "buy to win" could actually be helpful in a forever format, because you can develop everything at it's weakest points and sell greater ones all the time and selling items into the game to make the game more pleasurable cosmetically. Which is causing much hated debates between "mod" makers and developers. Bethesda basically sold you a online map and you have to pay to fill it, everything. It makes a lot of sense when you have mod makers making the games twice as better and more fun to play than the actual developing company. And most mod makers are doing this out of their spare time and without being paid, Kudoos to those guys. Really wish they could beef up Andromeda. :) I most likely won't buy the game till they come out with a single player, but I believe that's not really happening. Why? Not in the best interest for investors or Bethesda. Over the last probably 5-10 years game developers are no longer into developing games for the love of games or the players, but found a new way to yank millions of dollars out of people who love video games and are pretty much destroying the industry. Ah, yes the much new debate over their new tactics to entice lost customers. As once a BioWare investor it makes me wonder if and when, which probably won't be long when the government will actually step in and make the video game developers more "responsible" and "accountable" for actually developing games consumers can play without having to fork out extra dollars to reach the finish line. Remember, there are really no laws for gaming developers that benefit consumers. We will see this later, when people start to realize what they bought in the FO76 Forever format. At some point gamers will reach that boiling point and explode, and eventually will go into the venture they dread and that is to partition new laws in the gaming industry. I said it once before, it's like the game Monopoly. If the company now took out Boardwalk and Park Place from the game and actually made customers pay an additional cost for those properties. We, know you can win without those properties, but you have a greater advantage if you own them among your other properties over other players. This is how they trick the law today. Greed is becoming to much of a factor in game developers today, which I would say a majority of all of its employees aren't actual game players.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: YES! YES! YES! This is what I've been saying for over 30 years since the gaming companies started posting their ^*(&(*&^(ing profits! Most of those investors were watching the millions literally millions of games playing those online game subscriptions for years. So yes, the watch dogs of these investors tell the developer make an on-line game and make them pay for more and more. Take a look at Dove-Tail games if you don't believe me. WE NEED LAWS NOW! We need to bring to the courts the theft and greed of these investors demanding and causing MAJOR Developers delivering less for more! I've quit buying new games until they are at least a year old to see if they really hold up. I didn't purchase FO4 until just recently and glad I waited. I wont buy Dove-Tail games any more as they keep adding new in game things YOU NEEED for more than they are worth! And like you NaveyIS8896 I want to see these Developers brought to court and made accountable for their lies, greed and complicity!

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NavyIS8896

@RonR0549: my concern is that these type of actions by these developers now that are referring to as "new" revenue are young players that are easy to persuade, and use their mom & dad's cards or even their own credit cards to charge up large amounts for worthless shit. EA's actions was just that and their reason behind the buy to win in their Star Wars game and became a huge problem internationally. Only, because Disney had a beef to pick with them since they had not known about the buy to win loot boxes. Investors were like, what? pretending they didn't know anything about it. However in the investing industry the word is these guys want more return and are feel they're not getting what they should. In the future I see some companies actually dropping out and probably being sold. EA will probably buy a few of them in process and try to monopolize on the market.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: Navy, Understood, but again what can we, 'Real Gamer's' do to show both these investors and developers that we are seriously worried and concerned that their greed will forfeit full production games. I mean take a look at these prices they are asking for 'these games'. What can we do to demand better products at lower prices? The gaming industry is based on sales, and like you said children are buying these games and don't care about the costs or the play-ability, they just chuck it like they do with their parents credit cards. But we 'real gamer's have to do something. It's great to see and share what's going on, but we need a plan, a way to get legislation for developers to build a full bug-free, no added costs for completed games. I wanted to get that Jurassic World Evolution, living here in Malaysia it cost over RM 200.00 which is four times what the US price is. But I already see so-called DLC's for new buildings, equipment, and islands and like most costs for DLC's its outrageous! Again, what can we do, today? How can we bring our concerns to the masses, and present them to the so-called 'caring' developers? This industry is un-govern and we have no laws to force them to produce real games. I really love to hear your facts and theories but like my father always told me, before you make a complaint, have a solution...my question is what is the solution? Thanks again for all you thoughts and ideas. We gamer's really appreciate them!

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NavyIS8896

@RonR0549: the solution would there would have to be a coalition of gamers. They would have to prove without a doubt what they're doing needs some type of regulation versus all the rhetoric being thrown out there that there doesn't need to be. Once they can persuade with good reason to a political individual involved in the same area, then it could possibly reach for lobbying. Though it was never desired, but those actually dishing out huge amount of money for worthless crap in a game including elements that can improve an individual's stat and abilities and even cosmetic don't realize they are actually harming the industry. They're basically saying buy this game, but if you want to actually play it you have to buy everything to fill it to play it. The value of the game isn't the true value at which it was created and the profits are far exceeding the price to actual market value. No one saying they can't make a profit, but this is beyond profit making. This is down right scamming the public with super hyped of video commercials at which the game is no where near what they advertise.

Without a huge number of actual caring gamers trying to stop it, people like you and I will only talk about it, because many don't care, or think we're just crazy. Meaning if we don't like it, don't buy it. I have not bought a video game since Andromeda disappointment. I don't believe these beefed up commercials advertising these games anymore, and the only game I actually play now is FO4 with heavy amounts of modding. I can only hope now is that some new game developer will come out and actually give us Triple A games for the price and quality that it should be. However, the new trend in video game marketing doesn't look that way, because people are making this behavior acceptable. They're turning video games into basically slot machines.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: Absolutely agreed! If you took FO4 as the last (sort of) vestige of a real completed game and the original price for it; compared to what is being put on the market today, with pay-per-view-or-play-more it would be easily proven, unfortunately we need a court room to show this and we can't get in one until these younger gamer's wake up and see what they are wasting their money on! Like you FO4 was my last major purchase (I tested Adramada on Origin and it STUNK!) We really need to find away to educate the gamer's. What about all these Gaming Review web sites, why don't they speak out? (I know, I know, they get graft under the table and don't give a shit about us real or new gamer's)

We need to set up a web site call 'Truth of Video Gaming Today!' blast it to all the game review places, don't let any Developer that does this kind of shit advertise on it! ha ha ha; we'd probably only have two or three advertisers! ahahahahahahahahahahahah

Still just a thought!

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NavyIS8896

@RonR0549: Actually they can be proven by their own advertising. they advertise a game with state of the video art graphics and video editing, however the advertising doesn't state anything about the game or that game will defer from advertising. Nor does their advertising state any type of transactions or microtransactions for the game. all the advertising does is mislead consumers that the game is triple a and state of the art. Andromeda could really be the poster-boy for this.

I agree a site would be nice to inform gamers and new young gamers about the truth in the game developing world, so they could make actual real opinions about a game when it comes out. they are so hooked on the advertising they actually believe that the game lives up to what the company says it does.

who knows, I might actually start something, don't know yet. these developers are driving me nuts with 2nd grade art and animations and selling them off as triple a games, with nothing inside the game that is actually worth the value they sell it at. 76 is falling into that area by all the reports of people playing the game as Bethesda are blocking modders, and creating a real monetary item shop. makes me sick you have to purchase something to change something in a game like a jump suit. Fucking totally insane for a game.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: Navy, Lets do it! Do me a favor and list the false or misleading advertising for the new so-called-'AAA' game that we know for a fact are not! Then lets spam to all the gaming websites asking for their support to put an end to this kind of greed. See what happens. I'll do my part and send the list and complaints to each Gaming web site that promotes those games and post it on their feedback, community, and whatever to let 'true' gamer's and novices (kids) why not to purchase this crap! Thanks again for your fantastic insights, and truth about publications around the gaming world. You have so much knowledge and with that is power! We have to fight to get these guys to stop sucking our wallets dry for crap they call 'AAA' games, when they are NOT! I'll bet if we write to those modders of games they will help us and want to end this theft of their hard work and property!

You really have some real insights to this and it is needed to stop these people (investors and developers) from continuing on in this manner. If we don't do this, they wont see a need to stop! Hey, lets set up a gaming boycott website sighting the reason gamer's should't buy those developers games... It's get in the news and who knows maybe word will get back to them. The only way we are going to stop developers and investors from ripping us off is to lessen their profit! That's the bottom line for them, and if they see more people not buying maybe they will get the message! What do you think?

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NavyIS8896

@RonR0549: Well, you could start with all of EA advertising for BioWare's Mass Effect games, all of EA sports games, and Bethesda with Doom and now Fallout 76. I'm sure I could go back into some archives and find out more where the advertising is just mind-blowing, but the end result of the game looked nothing like it. Probably EA/Disney Star Wars series. I know people were having gripes about RockStar, which I hadn't looked into much, but probably will. the new "Hitman" game may be also microtransaction, but only rumored. I'll look into it more. You'll have to record the advertisement/vs a recording of the actual game. So, it could get time consuming, though I might just start a power point on the subject. wouldn't be a bad idea.

Getting everyone else onboard could be the biggest challenge. most people would rather just complain than do anything about it.

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RonR0549

@navyis8896: Agreed, it's easier to complain than to actually do something, but again, all we really need to do is just inform/scare new buyers what NOT to buy until those gaming companies comply with the simple principle 'Sell what you advertise' Don't advertise lies' Boycott any and all companies by explaining why we should stop their river of money going to the investors and not the team working for the developers. Many gamer's read reviews and if we post on each and ever game we're allowed to post on 'BOYCOTT' this company and Never by their games because they wont sell you the whole game, some will sit up and wonder, pass the word and maybe developers will stop the greedy money stealing investor pressure to run their companies and produce decent games in the future! Well we hope...

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NavyIS8896

Every article I have read about a game, the Company always says it listens to its customers. Well, Bethesda is no different. Now, after hearing so many customers feedback on the beta, Bethesda comes out and says, "Well, we'll look into it." It's another sad to say money grabber by lying to the customer "again!" A commercial campaign to get the customer to trust the company that they care about them and want their "important feedback" that will improve the game. BS! Bethesda has no intentions on improving the game by customer feedback, but Bethesda Ownership on how the game should be able to rip off the customer. I had a bad feeling Bethesda was going the rout with this "Forever" type format. Yeah, right!

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Schizycho

Wow Gamespot, I'm used to you being a click-bait factory but really?

Write an article called, "How Fallout 76 Is Changing Based On Beta Feedback."

Then I read this and the entire article basically Bethesda is fixing bugs. That does not = changing the game. That is called fixing bugs during a beta, nothing out of the ordinary at all. Thanks once again Gamespot for wasting my time.

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teppolundgren

The only change I want is a single player story mode. Nothing else matters.

Which is why I'm replaying New Vegas for maybe the 5th time. And I suggest you all do the same.

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HowardWalker01

I have play Fallout 76 since it comes out on PS4. I myself love playing the game even since it is a BETA. It does have bugs still. But I feel that the bugs did not make me want to stop playing it. I did have to log off the game because there was a loud noise. But when I log back in it was gone.

If they let me able to restart the game with only my weapons and apparel. I would be happy with restarting my game.

I think most people are getting upset because they handed in their mind how the game would look like in their mind. But it did not live to their ideal of it. Yes, a big part was because they used an old game engine. But most likely the new game engine they have is for the next games they have a line up.

Thank You.

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XBgyManX

The amount of hate for this game is just stupid. It's a side project. Nothing more. If it sucks, we will find out. But stop hating on it just because it isn't the normal single player game.

Single player games are in development Right Now by Bethesda Studios.

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Schizycho

@XBgyManX: Most people hate on it because (like myself) many people put a lot of money into Bethesda buying all of the continual stream of TES:5 releases. Most of us expected that money would be a good investment into the studio, bringing us a better TES:6 in the future.

Instead, we got a shitty multiplayer game with Fallout lore stamped onto it, and a full development cycle delay on TES:6. It has been 7 years since TES:5 released, TES:6 has now just started production. That means there will be at least an 11 year gap between the 5th and 6th iterations of the series, all because Bethesda decided to take all that Skyrim money and sink it into this, "side project."

Just because it's a side project, doesn't mean it doesn't effect the main franchises. I have been supporting this studio loyally since TES:Arena in the early 90's. My reward as a loyal, supportive fan, is a major delay and a weak ass excuse, "We don't want to be known as just the TES guys."

So yeah, there is hate for this game. I personally bought Skyrim 7 times. Did I do that because I love Skyrim that much? Partially, sure, it's a great game. But a major part of the reason I bought TES:5 multiple times was to support Bethesda, also it was because TES:6 wasn't an option yet, but I believed putting money into the company would be rewarded by a better funded TES:6 project. Instead, I get no TES:6, and a multiplayer POS that no Bethesda fan asked for, with Fallout lore tacked onto it.

Yup, I hate Fallout 76, and I have good reason to.

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jteagle

@Schizycho: they are not obligated to cater to your wishes. They’ve earned the right to experiment. Even if it’s a bad experiment.

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Schizycho

@jteagle: I fully agree. My only point is that when I bought 7 copies of Skyrim to "support" Bethesda, it would have been nice to know their intentions back then. I definitely wouldn't have been pumping money hardlined into their veins had I known they intended to back-burner TES and "experiment." But I guess, that is probably why they decided not to mention it back then.

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XBgyManX

@Schizycho: it wasn't delayed because of FO76. It was delayed because Todd Howard said that they were tired of making Elder Scrollls games.

Be happy that they even announced ES6, unlike what happened with Diablo 4.

Don't buy FO76 then and move on.

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Schizycho

@XBgyManX: Nope. That's fantasy my friend. What Todd said was they wanted to be known for more than making TES games. That in no way implies they are tired of making them, they wanted to diversify.

And yes, it was delayed by Fallout 76. It took years to make, took an entire team that had to be hired to create it, that all takes money and resources. Those resources could have been making TES:6, but instead were poured into FO76. There is no way around that.

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XBgyManX

@Schizycho: Yeah, he said that they wanted to be known for more than just Elder Scrolls. Which means that they wanted to make other stuff.

You are acting like a spoiled child, throwing a tantrum because he didn't get his way.

Starfield and ES6 were probably already planned to be on the next-gen systems, since we are (supposedly) close to their release dates.

You don't like the game? Don't buy it. You have your ES6 announcement. Be happy and move on. Some of us are actually looking forward to playing FO76.

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Schizycho

@XBgyManX: And since you are going to take it to that level, so will I.

You know who the real spoiled children are? The ones that anonymously go online and call others spoiled children for having a different opinion. You are wrong, and have nothing intelligent to say, so you call me a spoiled child and tell me how immature I'm being. Good strategy, let me know what your mom is making for dinner when you come up out of her basement.

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XBgyManX

@Schizycho: You are going on a one man crusade of hatred against a game because the one that you wanted didnt come out first, even though you have gotten your CONFIRMATION that the game that you want is coming.

And you don't call that a tantrum? I am the one that doesn't have anything intelligent to say?

Rethink the entire situation, good sir.

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Schizycho

@XBgyManX: No good sir, you need to rethink.

To try to prove me wrong, you misquoted what Todd Howard said, in a lame attempt to make yourself right. It didn't work, I called you out on your misinformation, and you resorted to calling me a spoiled child. Black kettle buddy.

Twisting the argument to say the game didn't come out first, is also a weak attempt. That isn't even close to the argument. It has nothing to do with Fallout 76 coming out before TES:6. The TES series has released on a cycle of roughly 5 years, give or take. Once Bethesda began creating Fallout, the games have alternated releases. That stopped after TES:5. It has been 7 years since TES:5, yet instead of TES:6 releasing now (alternating after Fallout 4) we get Fallout 76.

So trying to say I'm upset that Fallout 76 came out first, isn't even related to what I'm saying. It's the fact Fallout 76 came out instead of TES:6.

Try to know what you are arguing about before you start an argument, you otherwise look stupid.

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XBgyManX

@Schizycho: I didn't misquote him. I paraphrased what he said by reading between the lines. "We want to be known for more than just ES" means "We are tired of making ES right now."

What you said is a long-winded version of "ES isn't coming out before FO76 so now I am mad."

Just because they have alternated games within a certain time frame in the past, does not mean that it is set in stone.

You are getting the game that you want. You are just upset that you aren't getting it as soon as you want.

Being mad that Diablo Mobile was announced INSTEAD of Diablo 4 is a valid argument. Being mad that ES6 was announced, but not released before FO76 is Not.

Try to follow along.

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Schizycho

@XBgyManX: Just repeating the same points and then saying Try to follow along, doesn't make you smart, it makes you stupid. To be completely clear, Todd actually said they didn't want to be known as just the TES and fallout guys, to give you the full quote. It just shows how little you know about what you are talking about. So if they didn't want to be known as just the fallout guys either, and that means by YOUR logic they are, "tired of making fallout right now," why did they make Fallout 76? Yeah, I know pumpkin, you're having trouble processing what I'm saying, so I'll just be finished now.

I learned long ago not to argue with stupid people, there is no point, so I'm done. Bye pumpkin, enjoy not understanding things.

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XBgyManX

@Schizycho: You are right on two counts. We are going in circles and I do not understand why you are blind to the argument.

Either way, FO76 is coming out. Play it. Don't play it. That is your decision.

ES6 will come out one day. Probably on Next-Gen. You will have your toy then, friend. Take care.

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PappaFost

Even though there is no push to talk, I believe you can mute individual "bad apple" players. I prefer push to talk myself so people don't have to listen to me coughing, but with no text chat, I think SOME kind of communication will be important in this game.

Then there was the guy on Ring of Elysium the other day with a shorted out buzzing microphone who was having a conversation with his girlfriend the whole time. FUN!

I played several hours of the beta, and then went back and re-started Fallout 4 for comparison. If you liked Fallout 4, you will like Fallout 76. If you were burned out by Fallout 4. You will not like Fallout 76.

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lion2447

"...it would need everyone's help to find the bugs..."

Didn't this used to be a paid job called Quality Assurance?