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Gut Reactions: The Beatles Game

The GameSpot staff reacts to the news that Harmonix is working on a fully licensed rhythm game featuring the Beatles.

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Rock music is big business in the video game industry these days. Game companies are now doing battle for sonic supremacy with legions of licensed artists. But one group has been conspicuously absent from the festivities: the Beatles. As one of the biggest and best acts in modern history, they seem like an obvious choice for any game dedicated to rock and roll. There's just one problem: Acquiring a license to reproduce the Beatles' legendary hits has been impossible, at least until now. But Harmonix and MTV have done it. In a licensing coup, they have come to an agreement with Apple Corp. Ltd. to include a selection of 45 Beatles songs in their as-yet-untitled Beatles game, which is scheduled for release in the fourth quarter of 2009. GameSpot editors react to this incredible news!

Andrew Park | Managing Editor

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Behold the keytar in all its glory.
Behold the keytar in all its glory.

There are plenty of directions that this new Beatles game can go in, and with any luck, it'll result in at least one keytar peripheral making its way to the market. That's really my main hope, and if you take only one thing away from everything I've ever written, let it be that keytar video game peripherals need to become a reality. But I have to admit, I'm even more intrigued by the fact that the new game will be the first official debut of the Beatles' extensive library in official, digitally distributed form. Not on iTunes or on Amazon Music. In a video game.

If you keep up with the digital music scene, you'll know that digital distribution rights to the Beatles' library were a plum that was battled over for some years. So to some Beatles fans, having the music of this iconic rock group finally get out there in completely legal, official, digital form is a pretty huge deal, a cultural development among modern audiophiles for whom music means playlists, earbuds, and flipping through songs with their thumb on some kind of sleek handheld media player.

This is a positive development, right? Does this mean that a wall has been broken down and a new way has been paved for freedom in the battle between digital rights management and dastardly pirates who would rather download music for free than pay for it? I think it's too early to tell, and as the editors in a recent edition of The Hotspot speculated, you can't help but wonder whether the custom-tracks features of music games already on the market will draw the wrath of various music companies once industrious end users start uploading their own versions of copyrighted music. I'm hoping it doesn't, but industrious users make it hard to police infringements once you open up the floodgates to let users contribute their own content, even if that content should happen to be, oh, I don't know, let's say, a Beatles song. Most people considered last year's lawsuit between media giant Viacom and YouTube owner Google to be posturing by Viacom, rather than a serious threat to the search-engine giant, and it more or less resulted in YouTube launching an antipiracy alert on its site to let concerned users report offending content...if they feel like it. At least in the new MTV/Harmonix game, it'll be harder to pirate and distribute.

In conclusion, I think what I'm really trying to say here is that I need a keytar game peripheral. I've got a pastel-colored sportcoat with extra-thick shoulder pads, a pair of Bugle Boy cargo pants, and a piano key necktie all hanging in my closet, and I just need one more piece of the puzzle to make my ensemble complete.

Brendan Sinclair | News Editor

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Cool retro hairdos probably not included.

When I heard about the Beatles game, I was initially a little put off that it wasn't going to be a dedicated Rock Band game. However, I'm interested to see if Harmonix can take the same style of Rock Band gameplay and put a more appealing Beatles-themed veneer over it. Whatever it does, the song selection is going to be the most important part of the game. With only 45 songs included, a lot of great Beatles tunes will be left out.

If I had my druthers, the game would have a progressive focus on the later Beatles stuff. "Norwegian Wood" and "All My Life" from Rubber Soul would mark the earliest tracks in the game, and successive albums would be more robustly represented, with the exception of Yellow Submarine--that record would give up its songs so that The White Album could be better covered. Finally, the setlist has to be capped by the band's magnum opus, Abbey Road, in its entirety.

That would not only encapsulate the group's most enduring and relevant body of music, but would also leave more than enough material out there to produce another game. A full half of the group's number-one hits fall outside the time period I'm talking about here. So just as the group has two greatest-hits double-disc sets (the blue one covering its later catalog and the red set chronicling the earlier years), it would also have two comparably distinct games.

Jonathan Miller | Associate Editor

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The Beatles all had singing parts, but will these be in the game?
The Beatles all had singing parts, but will these be in the game?

First, let's talk instruments. EA has already announced that the Beatles game will not be a Rock Band game. So if it's not a Rock Band game, you have to assume you don't need Rock Band instruments to play it (though they will be compatible, thankfully.) So, that means the Beatles game will most likely come in two versions: one with a single disc for Rock Band owners, and another with a new set of instruments. But what would those be? Of course you need to have stylized drums, lead guitar, rhythm guitar, and bass. What would set a Beatles game apart, however, would be multiple microphones. The Fab Four were defined by harmony, and everyone played a part, even Ringo. Look back at a Beatles classic like "Twist and Shout." You have John on lead vocals, Paul and George on backup, and even Ringo chipping in. Four microphones, three mic stands. One stand and mic for lead vocals and rhythm guitar, one stand and mic to be shared by lead guitar and bass, and one stand for the drummer. In a Beatles game, everyone sings along.

Second, let's talk game design. Harmonix has some tough decisions ahead if it wants to keep Beatlemaniacs happy. Would the game detail the chronology of the band? Would it focus on the studio albums in order? Would it focus on individual members and their own contributions to the song library? Personally, I'd like to see the game kick off from the band's humble beginnings in Liverpool. Your first task would be to master the songs from the early days to unlock Beatlemania, then you'd move on to the British Invasion, then to the movie era, then to the psychedelic era, and then finish it off with a "Let it Be" setlist and a "Hey Jude" encore. Include famous venues such as the Cavern Club in Liverpool, the Indra Club in Hamburg, and the set of The Ed Sullivan Show (in black and white, of course). In the later years, you could do an animated Yellow Submarine backdrop and even a kaleidoscope Strawberry Fields. Finally, include unlockable classic outfits and accessories to customize the Fab Four how you see fit and include Beatles interviews and live performances. Harmonix may run into some tricky inconsistencies with former drummer Pete Best and producer George Martin often chipping in at the studio, but a game like this should satisfy even the mildest of Beatles fans.

Finally, let's talk track list. There have been reports that the Beatles game will be limited to 45 songs. Keeping everyone happy is an impossible task. I compiled a list of must-have songs and couldn't get it below 60. There can be only two explanations for the limitation: The rights to the songs cost significantly more than the songs in Rock Band, or EA is planning to offer several downloadable music packs. I suspect both are true. That said, here are the songs I believe you should have in a Beatles game:

Please Please Me / I Saw Her Standing There / Twist and Shout / Love Me Do / She Loves You / I Want to Hold Your Hand (with unlockable German version!) / Please Mr. Postman / Roll Over Beethoven / All My Loving / A Hard Day's Night / I Should Have Known Better / Can't Buy Me Love / And I Love Her / No Reply / I'm a Loser / Eight Days a Week / I'll Follow the Sun / Help / Ticket to Ride / You've Got to Hide Your Love Away / You're Going to Lose That Girl / Yesterday / Norwegian Wood / Drive My Car / I'm Looking Through You / Girl / Nowhere Man / In My life / Eleanor Rigby / Tomorrow Never Knows / I'm Only Sleeping / Yellow Submarine / Got to Get You Into My Life / Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band / With a Little Help From My Friends / We Can Work It Out / Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds / Strawberry Fields Forever / Getting Better / A day in the Life / Magical Mystery Tour / I Am the Walrus / All You Need Is Love / Back in the USSR / While My Guitar Gently Weeps / Blackbird / Happiness Is a Warm Gun / Revolution 1 / Come Together / Something / Oh Darling / Here Comes the Sun / Octopus's Garden / Lady Madonna / Hey Jude / Get Back / Let It Be / The Long and Winding Road

Joe Dodson | Associate Editor

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Can a Led Zeppelin game be far behind?

I wonder what Activision and Neversoft are thinking, now that Harmonix has secured one of the most important licenses in rock history? They probably feel a lot like 2K Sports did when EA scored the exclusive NFL license, though their outlook isn't nearly as grim. After all, there are lots of other great bands, even if there's only one Beatles.

Maybe they'll acquire an exclusive license of their own, like Led Zeppelin, and build a whole "new" game around that. Or maybe they'll grab whatever Beatles songs Harmonix doesn't license and rush a Beatles game of their own to market ("God Harmonix, why are you copying us?"). I kid, but my gut tells me that Activision probably isn't taking this well, and probably won't respond well, either.

I suspect both they and Neversoft are wondering "What are we going to do? How can we make people stop talking about Harmonix?" And I suspect the same logic that made them mimic Rock Band with Guitar Hero World Tour will lead them to some equally unimaginative conclusion. I hope my gut is wrong and that they'll strike forth in a bold new endeavor--a playable This Is Spinal Tap would be awesome. But when my gut calls me a fool and insists that "Re-Act-ivision" (my gut is so mean!) will go on playing the Monkees to Harmonix's Beatles, how can I argue? I'm a believer.

Aaron Thomas | Associate Editor

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We can't wait to live on a Yellow Submarine.
We can't wait to live on a Yellow Submarine.

Narrowing down the Beatles' greatest hits to less than 50 songs isn't easy, but I've gone ahead and done the dirty work for Harmonix. Good thing I'm here to help out! A few of these are lesser-known tunes, but all of the songs would be fun to play, which is all that matters. How confident am I that this will be the setlist? I guarantee 90 percent accuracy or your money back.

One After 909 / I Saw Her Standing There / Love Me Do / How Do You Do It / Please Please Me / From Me to You / She Loves You (live version from The Ed Sullivan Show) / All My Loving (live version from The Ed Sullivan Show) / Twist And Shout / I Want to Hold Your Hand / Can't Buy Me Love / A Hard Day's Night / I Feel Fine / Eight Days a Week / Ticket to Ride / Help! / Drive My Car / Norwegian Wood / Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / Yesterday / Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band / While My Guitar Gently Weeps / Back in the USSR / I Am the Walrus / Revolution / Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out / Paperback Writer / Yellow Submarine / Octopus's Garden / Here Comes the Sun / Penny Lane / All You Need Is Love / Hello Goodbye / Lady Madonna (if there is some sort of keyboard peripheral) / Hey Jude (if there is some sort of keyboard peripheral) / Get Back / The Ballad of John & Yoko / Something / Come Together / Let It Be (if there is some sort of keyboard peripheral) / Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam / She Came in Through the Bathroom Window / The End / Her Majesty / Free As A Bird

Laura Parker | Staff Writer, GameSpot AU

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On second thought, maybe he does need the money.
On second thought, maybe he does need the money.

I love the Beatles. But the big question for me when reading this news was "Why?" It seems that the Beatles have been fighting to keep their music as guarded as possible for a very long time. Their refusal to offer their music for sale digitally via any venue is well publicized. Their sudden embrace of all things modern is startling, and it makes one wonder: Do the Beatles need rhythm games or do rhythm games need the Beatles?

It's true that rhythm games make billions of dollars, have massive worldwide appeal, and help artists sell records. But why would the Beatles care about any of that? Paul McCartney has been steadily, and successfully, working on his own music for a long time, so it's not like he needs the fame or the money. Ringo Starr has begged, time and time again, to be left out of the public spotlight. It makes little sense to imagine them both in a room together saying, "Hey, dude, we need to find a way to reinvent the Beatles." Perhaps they did it because they want to reach a whole new generation of listeners. Perhaps they think today's music is all tripe, and they wanted to inject some good old-fashioned rock and roll back into contemporary listening. Whatever the cause, it's clear that the Beatles don't need rhythm games.

So that leaves rhythm games needing the Beatles. A Beatles rhythm game is more than good news for fans of the band and game alike--it's good news for publishers, developers, record companies, and artists. If the Beatles are jumping on the rhythm-game bandwagon, then the games must be doing something right. I think we'll start to see more and more artists license their songs to rhythm games from now on, and perhaps a little more recognition of rhythm games as a serious platform where artists can successfully promote themselves.



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Laura Parker was speaking of McCartney and Ringo as if they had actual say with what happens to the Beatles catalog, but isn't a portion of the catalogue owned by Northern Songs, Ltd. (or is it Apple Corp?) and another by Michael Jackson Enterprises (or whatever it's called)? I can't claim to have kept up on this much over the years and perhaps McCartney has since acquired a portion of the catalogue to be able to say what direction things go, but I've always understood that the Beatles themselves did not have rights to their own songs (outside of performing them live). It was Michael Jackson who outbid McCartney and Yoko Ono for about 200 or so Beatles' songs in the 80's, wasn't it?

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This is one interesting game idea. Invite me over to your next Beatles concert :) !!!

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i like the beatles, i hate metallica, why do i feel like gh metallica is gonna be sicker than this beatles crap?

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Andrew Park said "But I have to admit, I'm even more intrigued by the fact that the new game will be the first official debut of the Beatles' extensive library in official, digitally distributed form." This is correct only if they release downloadable songs, or the full game is downloadable from say, the PSN store. If you buy the game on physical media, what is on the disc is digital information, but so is music on a CD unless I am mistaken.

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Jonathan Miller nailed the big point here- the Beatles' rather bizarre 4-part vocal harmonies are critical to the whole thing. I say bizarre, because often if you listen to what's going on, it seems like it really shouldn't work, but somehow it does. Compared to say, playing a Dragonforce track a Beatles song would tend to seem like EZmode, but add those vocals into the mix and things get a lot trickier. Interesting fact- singing and drumming at the same time makes your hair fall out. Known as the Collins Effect, postulated by prof B. Dickinson of Sanctuary University...

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I disagree with Brendan Sinclair that the entire Abbey Road album should be in the game. For example how would a version of the song Golden Slumbers work? It would be boring as hell in a rhythm game considering it is mainly piano, brass and bass. Also Here Comes the Sun would be a difficult song to translate into a guitar part. It is a good album but it wouldn't work and it's not so great it should stand above other Beatles work anyway. Also IMO Let it Be is a better album and it would be criminal if the song 'Get Back' didn't feature in the game at the expense of songs from Abbey Road that people just won't enjoy playing.

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haha...good to be....

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Seriously Aaron, this game will not shine without the awesome "Maxwell's Silver Hammer".

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If Yellow Submarine is in the game, I most definitely will NOT buy it.

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"Far Out" The Beatles songs in game form someone said the parents will play more than the kids I think the grand parents will play it even more after all were in are 50+ now when The Beatles came to the U.S. in 1964.

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Ah well, I just can't wait for this game. I love the Beatles

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Cool, I picture a lot of kids parents might play it more than kids lol.

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dreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheater dreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheater dreamtheaterdreamtheaterdreamtheater

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Can't wait for this game. I love the Beatles and can only hope that this will open the door for more previously unwilling bands to get into the mix, like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. Hey, everybody likes money, it wouldn't make sense not to. Plus, kids today need to know more about the music of the past.

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Oh well, But but ... where the hell is Helter Skelter, I like the Beatles music and the selection of the songs are good, but I don't see Helter Skelter in there. Now, looking that MTV, EA and Harmonix will make the game, I think it will be fine, thought it will be very funny playing Yellow submarine, Back in the USSR or the final songs of the Abbey Road album

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Disturbed? Disturbed?! Are you joking me? Yeah, throw a few Disturbed songs into the mix, but a themed game, are you cracked Bioharzard? I don't really appreciate "me too" rock bands, and neither do the majority of us who have had our ears to the door since we could keep a beat in our head. Expanding the music genre with CLASSIC rock bands and bands that have permanently changed the face of music forever deserve their name on the cover of that fat, expensive box, including the ones that have already been announced, Metallica and The Beatles. I am out of my mind excited for both of these games because they will be so different, it's not like buying GH and RB and comparing the setlists, you are getting two completely different games from two completely different developers. This is the direction that things need to continue to move, if Activision does in fact become "re-Activision" they will not only fall behind in the battle, they will lose.

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well if it isn't the internet...

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o my god Saije your opinion to me is crap but you're such ignorant that im obligated to respond you that to say what you're saying you must be an idiot...perhaps probably you dont know nothing about music and i must tell you that the Beatles are the greatest band ever or at least one of the greatest bands ever...(considetated by rolling stones magazine,and a lot of good musicians consider the Beatles is a great band like Bono, or Bob Dylan, Mick Jager and most of the good groups have influence like Rolling Stones, just tell me one of the bands or musicians you like and i will tell you the influence they have about the Beatles...well just tell me good bands and musicians and not crap like the one that i suspect you will mention

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As much as I love the Beatles (greatest.band.ever.period), they should make a game dedicated not only to the Beatles, but all classic rock in general. It would sell a lot of copies, in my opinion.

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Tch, Beatles are the most overrated band of all time. They were, are and will always be nothing special. And their songs suck, admit it.

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I don't see why they all have ( besides Aaron Thomas and some others) this vary strong opinion about just another music game. We all know its just going to be another rhythmic game where you hold done buttons and hit another one that fits the sound of the music. Ether they don't really like the Beatles that much besides Laura Parker, or they just have doubts that the Beatles music could make for a good rhythm 'game'. O and to answer your question Laura about why The Beatles would care about making this game or if rhythm game needs The Beatles or if The Beatles need rhythm games, you could just ask one of your co workers that ones the first to right about this topic on his soapbox forum (i forget him name lol sorry); what he said is that Sony owns there songs and Michal Jackson owns some where around 200 or 500 songs that he bout some time in the 80's i think. Personally The Beatles is not only my favorite band but i do not lick these constant rhythm game releases, enles they make a big change to the format to the game im not interested.

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i don't care if bombs horribly, I'm still buying it. The Beatles friggin rock!

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Well, good luck Harmonix. And be sure to make it good. I love the Beatles and the sixties in general.

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This game wont be the bomb, it will just bomb.

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So, a Beatles game is coming, huh?. Well, next one will be a Elvis game, take my word, it will happen sooner or later...

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gamespot needs more round-table features like this

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Even with the Beatles, it's tough to make a single-artist game that can really grip people like one that covers all kinds of genres and artists. We all knew how GH:Aerosmith was going to do, and then saw (to no surprise) that it wasn't too great. I'm not looking forward too much to Metallica either. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles. I'd just say save yourself a most likely large sum of money and buy the biggest hits on DLC.

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"Narrowing down the Beatles' greatest hits to less than 50 songs isn't easy" Haha, actually for me it is. I don't like the Beatles, so I'd say 0 would be fine.

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now my father will play rock band wit me, LOL

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The Beatles are still getting milked? Wow..

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Bart247 I know what your talking about how they influenced everything but the classic rock today come on. There aren't any decent classical rock bands out there today but maybe soon to come.

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Besides the beatles there are really no other bands everyone can agree on so I doubt this game will be duplicated by activision

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Sounds interesting, wonder how it'll work out.

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system of a down game would be siiiiiiiiiiick

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Guys, you need to admit that if it weren't for The Beatles, along with other classic rock bands back then, rock n' roll wouldn't be where it is today. Either way, having a rhythm game featuring The Beatles is an awesome idea, since they originally defined classic rock in my opinion. Now, Harmonix or Activision, how about a Queen themed game next, eh? I sure would love to play Bohemian Rhapsody in a video game right about now.

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Well... IMaBIOHAZARD, it's called Guitar Hero Metallica. I want a Queen-themed game!! :P

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we need a Metallica game...and a Disturbed. That would be awsum. How about we just have a metal game?

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I might buy it if the songs are exportable into RB2, otherwise I'll pass.

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we need a disturbed music game

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i think it would be a novelty item more than a game

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this is just ..... epic !

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Here's the problem with a Beatles "rock band" game, that includes rhythm and instruments. The Beatles themselves weren't to "good" with their own instruments. To most musicians standards, they sucked. Now don't get me wrong I love the Beatles, all of their songs are great, its just, is it fair to make people think the Beatles were good with instruments. Or are they going to have Eric Clapton up there when you play "While My Guitar Gently Weeps?" So it sounds great in theory, being as The Beatles had some good songs, but in practice it would be more fictional than anything (unless of course it came with a sitar!)

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BOOO!!!! Just make it a download for RockBand already.

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This sounds cool, but it seems like it should be either a downloadable pack for Rockband, or like Rockband should start offering special edition hard copies of their games. I mean, I am a Guitar Hero Junkie, but I probably won't be able to afford the new gear until next fall since I still need to buy a PS3, however, since that coincides with Q4 2009, might motivate me to get Rockband gear and use it for both games if they were to offer some wicked custom edition peripherals like a drum set painted like Ringo Star's, a guitar that looks like Paul Mccartney's famous violin bass, and John Lennon's 1965 Sunburst Casino. One would expect to pay quite a bit for something so detailed, but I know that I would be willing to pay the $300 they would probably charge for that.

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nice

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I love the Beatles and own every single one of the albums... but honestly, I would be more excited to see a Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple or even KISS themed game. The Beatles music is too... simple to get overly excited about in this particular format.

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This would be good, but for the most part, Gamers =/= Beatles fans

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It's a good idea... but it seems to limited.

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