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GTAV unlikely until 2012 - Analyst

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey bullish on Take-Two, believes next installment in series could sell 16 million copies, generate $750 million.

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Take-Two recently announced it was shifting its fiscal year to end on March 31 in order to better put it in line with other major game publishers. Today, Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey issued an analyst note, which laid out some predictions for the New York-based publisher. Namely, that it will remain profitable even if the next Grand Theft Auto doesn't come out during its next fiscal year.

Don't expect the next GTA until 2012…at the earliest.
Don't expect the next GTA until 2012…at the earliest.

Hickey believes that Take-Two's 2011 fiscal year, which runs from April 1, 2011, until March 31, 2012, will feature two major game highlights: Max Payne 3 and L.A. Noire. He thinks those two games will lead a software lineup--which may also include the long-delayed Duke Nukem Forever--that can make the company profitable in a year without a GTA or a Red Dead game.

When GTAV does come out, "likely" in Take-Two's fiscal 2013 (April 2012-March 2013), Hickey believes it will be yet another blockbuster, selling upward of 16 million copies and generating over $750 million by itself. He predicts that year will also see the release of BioShock Infinite, which he estimates will sell over 4 million copies and $182 million in sales.

One major reason for the high sales expectations is the increased combined PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 installed based in the US, which he believes will be 41 million units by the end of calendar year 2010. That compares to just 14 million in April 2008, when Grand Theft Auto IV originally came out.

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blizzard and rockstar are the best game developers . we wait for their games and we get masterpieces

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As far as I'm concerned, Rockstar Games are the kings of the gaming industry, so I'll happily wait for any game they release cuz they're all masterpieces. :D They're pure geniuses mann. xD

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boohoo i can care less

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Analysts never really know crap about game releases.

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I like gta,when gta game available always welcome.

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Updating San Andreas to run on the GTA4 engine would probably be almost as much work as developing a new game. Bringing the old game world up to the same level of detail as GTA4 would pretty much mean redoing the entire map. And if you're doing that, why not develop a new story line to go with it?

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hey **** Rockstar Toronto this time don't s*** the PC version. learn to put more efforts rather then lazy porting

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i thought they were going to make gta IV vice city

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I'm sorry I rather buy Bioshock Infinite.

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I am waiting

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those guys liked fortune-teller, throwing number everywhere with their 'belief'!

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people want remakes or prequels of past GTAs but it wont happen IMO. i believe its some city that people arent expecting like chicago or detroit

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yea SA on GTA IV's engine would rock

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Just update San Andreas with better graphics, sound and refine the gameplay to a more current gen standard. R* would basically print money for themselves for they did this.

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was anyone expecting a GTA next year? I would hope not, to me that would mean it was rushed out the door

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We'll play GTA V on the Noah's boat ???

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GTA does releases right. They release the details little by little, giving you just a little bit every time. Remember when the GTA IV trailer was released? That was pure mayhem.

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Imagine how different gaming would be now if GTA IV was only on PS3 like originally planned. It was a system seller for 360 even with it on both. So for PS3 alone it would have moved lots. PS3 would be out selling 360 now. The two are very close now and with the added sales then there would have been more exclusive things one PS3 like there are now. Funny how one game can change so much.

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GTA rules !!!

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So 2013-2014? Ah I'm used to it anyway.

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i want all the shops back that were in san andreas

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Pleeeeeeeeeeeease let GTA V be a remake of San Andreas!

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Wait, Playstation 3 is suddenly considered? According to these companies and their "exclusive" BS, we should all buy a 360 lol

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i don't think the new gta will be in next gen consoles why would Sony and Microsoft release all these new features this year and have new console next year? makes no sense

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Well duh, it wasnt gonna come out next year

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If these predictions by the analyst doesn't come true, they should be fired and their bonuses should be asked to be paid back. I HATE analysts and their bs job.

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no mention of the PS3 exclusive "Agent" which was announced during the 2009 E3. Seems this one is going to take as long or longer that LA NOIRE since the first announcement.

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oh man can't wait I wonder where it's gonna be set at hopefully it'll be a big map like San Andreas I know they can fit it on blu-ray disc

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I know I'll be getting it.

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I can wait for it, not biggie. I do hope they use the health system from RDR though.

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@reneetruss Experiment sure, but don't change the entire formula. A well established franchise is well-established for a reason. People like what it offers. It might die out in the long run, but nothing will kill a franchise quicker than turning into something it's not. A Action/RPG/RTS/Life Sim hybrid might be a great game if (and big "if" there) someone could pull it off, but it definitely wouldn't be 'Grand Theft Auto'.

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Allow yourself to switch shoulder cams and I'll buy it. That's what turned me off in GTA 4; the shooting mechanics we're too slop.

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I do enjoy the GTA's and do not at all hate every one with a passion. There were my doubts after playing the Stories games, but GTA IV did not at all ruin my feel for R*. I do hope for more weapons in the next game, and wouldn't mind some weapon mods and a wider variety of weapons though. I enjoyed Ballad of Gay Tony and the Lost and the Damned but was unhappy to see the weapons from those games couild not be transferred into the original story. I also felt that raoming the same Liberty city was not exactly a thrill after playing the original all the way through and getting all of the acheivements. I hope with their next DLC installs in future games we will be able to fly to other cities such as San Andreas and Vice city. Hopefully in the next game will will see a little more comedic masterpiece and I hope they can make the physics seem a bit more realistic with their Euphoria and fix the swingsets (even though those were great.) Wouldn't mind a bit of enhancements to stamina as well. I liked being able to run for almost infinite time, but not even a track star could run all of Liberty City while getting shot. Hopefully in this game they will cause you to get slower movements if shot in the lower back or legs. A less focused aim if shot in the head, and slightly slower reloading speed if shot in the arm.

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*It'd also make sense.

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Honestly, I'm expecting the next GTA to be a Xbox 540/PS4 game. The original Xbox only lasted about 5 years before the launch of it's successor and we just hit 5 with the 360. It'd also make since in GTA's counting system. As in GTA III being on the Xbox/PS2 and GTA IV being on the 360/PS3. While we haven't really had a Vice City or San Andreas equivalent, R* made the Episodes from LC which may have taken the place of full-sized games. But, who knows.

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i hope it doesn't take that long, but the amount of detail and love they put into each GTA game shows, and part of that is a longer than normal development cycle. I do hope GTA5 is more Ballad of Gay tony and less vanilla GTA4--in the process of creating a more rich world they created some annoying game mechanics that BoGT and Red Dead Redemption have mostly fixed without going Saints Row 2 overboard. Saints Row 2 was also great fun, but I doubt GTA will go back to that kind of over the top sociopathic gameplay.

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@thorughfire very sad considering alot of the achievements are easy in gta iv if you actually try for them.

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I don't see GTA V being launcher until the next gen of consoles is released, late 2012 but more likely 2013 I'd suspect.

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Gta4 is the best game ever. Rockstar has never made a bad game. Should be good...

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@worlock77 I think Rockstar needs to experiment a bit, try different formulas. GTA is getting boring, and if they keep revisiting the same gameplay and not take some creative risk I see this series dying in the long run. I think the people at EA realized this with the sims series a very successful franchise. Now we have the sims 3 and the upcoming game sims medieval that are adding more traditional game play elements to the series. Even well formulated game need to change after awhile or the audience become bored with it. Maybe a new IP is needed as well.

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GTA V won't come till next gen with a new Engine....GTA Vice City 2 (my guess), or some other city/side story built off the GTA IV engine, now THAT will be in 2011 or 2012...not GTA V :D

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@CTstryk I completely agree, The graphics are improved from GTA SA to GTA 4 but really dont look as great as they make it out to be, Ive seen a lot better. Im actually very happy that there wont be another GTA game for 2 or 3 more years because that'll not only give me time to go back and get more achievements from GTA 4 and Episodes Of Liberty City but ill also be happy to say that GTA 5 will never be gracing my disc tray...Ever. GTA is a good series dont get me wrong but some of the achievements are just way too hard to get, Like you gotta put in serious time to get and that just takes the fun out of getting them. I got like 17 out of 50 something achievements and thats from GTA 4 and the 2 expansions,How sad is that.

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I want something totally new and different, no crappy re-harsh of previous gta games.

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I love these "predictions" (ie: baseless speculation) from these folks who are neither employed by the companies they're speculating or, nor even in the game industry itself. @reneetruss Then it wouldn't be 'Grand Theft Auto', it'd be something else entirely. Might be a good idea for a new IP, but doing such a dramatic shift with an existing IP is rarely well-received.

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I hope to god it is away from Liberty City.

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Why gta5? Can't it be something like in the ps2 era...gta3, then Vice City and finally San Andreas...no gta4 there.

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Yeah Rockstar please don't return with the next GTA until you get a better graphics...

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WOW They still got alot of time to make it.Hope they make it bigger than GTA IV :)

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did we really need an analyst to tell us it'd be 2012 by the time the next GTA came out...?

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I would like to see the GTA series turns into hybrid action role playing game with elements of real time strategy and life simulation where you create and customize a character or characters and develop them overtime. You take your character or a group of characters on quest-like missions, complete goal and task for NPC characters that live in the city. Have them live out their lives in a fully customizable city that the players can edited or can build up overtime. it would be a cross of the sims series, simcity series, fable series, the settler series, deathspank series meet gta series.

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