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Game of Thrones has reached its end, with the series finale airing this past Sunday to all-time record ratings for both the show and HBO. Season 8, Episode 6 brought the long-awaited ending to the show's main storylines, but was it actually satisfying? You can check out our thoughts in the review below. If you were unsatisfied, there's still hope for the books to handle things differently, as A Song of Ice and Fire author George RR Martin says the books' ending won't be exactly the same, as you'd expect.

Next Sunday, HBO will premiere a two-hour Game of Thrones documentary, The Last Watch, which has just gotten a new trailer. That will take a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the show's final season. For more, check out these finale Easter Eggs and references and a look at an interesting theory about Bran.

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Given the smelly trash fire that the episodes leading up to it were, there was never any real chance of Game of Thrones' finale, Season 8 Episode 6, "The Iron Throne," being anything other than a disappointment. But at least they tried.

There's a parallel universe somewhere where this exact episode was preceded by two full seasons of the phenomenal storytelling that Game of Thrones was once capable of, and in that brighter timeline, the show went out on the right note. It still would have been bittersweet, but it would have also felt earned, which this definitely did not. Too many plot points were swept under the rug and too many endings came from seemingly out of nowhere for this to feel satisfying.

Unlike the nonsensical Dothraki charge in Episode 3 or Euron's magic scorpion bolts in Episode 4, there was nothing particularly terrible in the Season 8 finale; we got some surprises (Bran the Broken), while other plotlines concluded exactly as they needed to (Arya sailing West, and Brienne finishing Jaime's page in the Kingsguard book). It just all felt a little tawdry thanks to the path we took to get here.

Look at where the show's biggest characters ended, in broad strokes: Jon never fully embraced his secret identity, which was disappointing, but fitting; he'll die a Stark, in the North, as he lived. (I kept waiting all season for something to make me start thinking of him as Aegon Targaryen instead of Jon Snow, but it never happened, seemingly by design.) Dany wound up being her father's daughter after all, which is depressing, but not unrealistic. Some combination of Bran, Sam, and Tyrion--the characters who are supposed to be smart--rewrote the rules of Westerosi politics, transforming the realm from the hereditary monarchy it's been for centuries into, essentially, something resembling a representative democracy. Sansa is Queen in the North, Arya leaves for her own adventure, and the Six-Plus-One Kingdoms are left in somewhat capable hands.

Let's talk about King Bran the Broken, First of His Name (and here's a good joke about that very weird title). On paper, yes, he makes a good king. And it's not completely incomprehensible that he winds up on the throne, since the show established that everyone just sort of accepts his Magic Powers of Knowing Everything as fact for some reason. As with the rest of this, I think there's a version of this ending that lands better--one that follows a story in which Bran wasn't written out of an entire season and didn't return to the show as a soulless, dead-eyed husk of a character who did nothing for several years.

There's an alternate theory for why Bran winds up on the throne that involves things like the Three-Eyed Raven's true identity, both characters' skin-changing/warging abilities, and cryptic Bran statements about how he's not really Bran anymore. But since the show never really committed to any of that (seriously, when was the last time Bran actually warged into anything or anyone and did something useful?), we have to just take what we got at face value. Whatever.

Jon killing Daenerys definitely falls under the umbrella of "things that were inevitable but that doesn't make them any less sad." This episode had some insanely beautiful and effective shots, from Dany walking out to address her soldiers with Drogon's wings spreading behind her to the pivotal scene in the throne room, up to and including the dragon flying away with his dead mother clutched in one claw. Where did he go? Maybe Bran will find him, maybe he won't. Like so many other things in Game of Thrones' neutered final season, that's beside the point.

This is the thing: An ending can make sense without feeling satisfying. The reasons why Game of Thrones' finale felt disappointing have less to do with the ways things actually wound up, and more with how we got here. If Bran had actually been present as a character and not just a doorstop for the past couple of seasons, fans might have cheered at the idea of him ruling over Westeros. If Dany's full-on murderous insanity had been properly built up to--as opposed to simply foreshadowed and then flipped on in an instant, which unfortunately isn't the same thing--her death could have been one of the most emotional television scenes ever, rather than something that felt like it simply needed to be done for the Story to continue its breakneck freefall toward a Conclusion.

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The moments that worked best in "The Iron Throne" were the ones that were properly set up long ago, like Brienne finishing Jaime's page in the White Book of the Kingsguard. It's the right kind of bittersweet: The Jaime that we got to know over these eight seasons (and five books) wanted nothing more than to leave a legacy that could stand alongside those of past Kingsguard greats like Ser Arthur Dayne. And who knew that side of the Kingslayer better than Brienne?

But therein lies the quintessential difference between page and screen: If you only watch the show, do you know that side of Jaime? In George R.R. Martin's books, events play out from specific characters' perspectives. When we're seeing the world through Jaime Lannister's eyes, we're also privy to his inner monologue, thoughts, feelings, dreams, hopes, and fears. When the show was still based on the books, it felt similar--in early seasons we usually understood why the characters did the things they did. The show did a great job letting us get to know them.

In more recent seasons, it's felt like the show kept us at arm's length, deliberately leaving things offscreen--like Bran, Arya, and Sansa plotting against Littlefinger, or Dany learning to ride and control Drogon--in order to build up surprises and cinematic climaxes. Those moments often worked, but they also left us wondering exactly how the pieces fell into place behind the scenes. Maybe showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss orchestrated that shift deliberately, or maybe they just didn't have the answers and so chose to not even try to come up with some. R'hllor knows George R.R. Martin has a hard enough time--the story's complexity is often cited as one of the reasons the books take him so long to write.

The point is: The broad strokes of this ending may be what the author has in mind, and, if he ever manages to finish his own story, this may be the ending that we ultimately get. But the way we get there will likely be characterized not by the bad taste of a botched rush job, but by the careful plotting, endless detail, and realistic, complex characters that the story actually began with.

Here's a silver lining: Even if you wanted Jon on the throne in the end, you have to admit that finally seeing him pet his direwolf again is an even better conclusion to his story. At least they got there in the end.

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I have to say - it is the height of hilarity that people log into this forum and post comments about the whiners and complainers being nothing but fanboys pouting that their own personal theories didn't come true.

Who is the fanboy here? The folks who incessantly chirp about us naysayers having the temerity to expect even a LITTLE more intelligence and coherence, or those of you who insist we just accept the art as presented?

You don't have to trust my word for it. All you have to do is Google Game of Thrones Season 8, and there are a ton of reviews ranging from unflattering, to downright nasty.

It is not an opinion, but a fact that the show's coherence and story line suffered greatly from the loss of the source material. I could go on a 200 page spree about the how's and why's. Martin gave them 12 main bullet points for how to finish the show, and the writers forced everything in and around those points. Instead of intricate story lines being cleverly built layer by layer, stone by stone. We got Game of Thrones, Days of our Lives style.

But even so, at the end of the day, if you loved how the show ended, good for you. I'm glad you are happy and consider your time well spent. I'm certainly not going to be so damned arrogant to log into a blog site and try to convince you why you are wrong.

If you are happy, you sure do have a strange way of showing your happiness; logging into a review that wasn't happy and bitching about someone expressing their opinion. Again I ask, who's the fanboy? The unabashed apologist who believes everything was perfect. Or the people who expected more from a show than the shit sandwich they were served and want to converse about it....



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@mperry_2000: You do realise that you're complaining about the complainer complainers don't you? This could go on for a while btw ?

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@gotrekfabian: I am not complaining about them. I am pointing out the arrogance and irony if you will......

I am not "mad" at anyone for loving how this show concluded. Good for you.

But for those of us who absolutely detested it, it doesn't mean it's beyond our comprehension. It doesn't make us petulant fanboys. We just hated it.

I wanted and expected more from a show that earned my respect and attention by telling us one story, and then betrayed it at the end; not necessarily to tell another, but by ostensibly using a far inferior story teller.

I was used to listening to the Oracle at Delphi, and when he called in sick, they subbed in the "screenwriter" for the Kardasians.

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@mperry_2000: You're taking this way too seriously, I was injecting a little humour into an otherwise hostile comment. I get that you're unhappy with how the events of a show unfolded and that you are defending a right to opinion but it won't accomplish anything. Dissatisfaction is all you have from this and it isn't worth venting it as ire and derision, it won't change anything. I never mentioned that you didn't understand it or called anyone names btw, I merely made a light-hearted comment as a play on words. Don't burn yourself up over what is essentially nothing, maybe read the books if you are dissatisfied and hope that GRRM completes the series in a way you see fit.

PS The oracle at Delphi was a woman btw. ?

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@gotrekfabian: Thanks for the history lesson. There were priests and priestesses both! You're right!!!! I should have said he/she. I'm taking this too seriously but you're being pedantic and forming the grammar police. Got ya....

I've read the books already too so... Hmmm.

Me? Hostile? I was simply pointing out that this is a comments section of a reviewer who didn't like the show. And a lot of people are personally attacking him for his opinion. Which is, in my opinion, the height of hilarity.

I spent eight years of my life watching this show, reading the books and fully engaging only to watch it get pissed down the drain by Hollywood writers who couldn't come within 1/10th of the originality of the source material. So I'm disappointed.

I found a reviewer who feels the same way and its' fun to trade opinions. But people logging in here and scathingly criticizing us for holding said opinions is just dumb. Again - IMO....


I understand the show is over and nothing can be changed. Why would that stop me from commenting on it? I'm not supposed to come into my office and chat with my mates about the show because I hated it? Seriously dude? So ostensibly your viewpoint is:

Only chat about things if you like them! Other it "won't accomplish anything"...

I'm just fine over here buddy.

Best of luck to you.


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@mperry_2000: No, the oracle was the Pythia, a high priestess from the temple of Apollo at Delphi and was always a woman.

As I said earlier, you're getting too worked up over what is essentially nothing though, chill and forget arguments for now. I sure as hell am not going to argue with you although it seems that is what you want. Whatever your ire with other commenters is, don't take it out on me. You're even giving arguments in this comment about things which I never even mentioned!

Peace, dude. ☮️

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@gotrekfabian:

Whoops - you were right. The actual oracle was only a woman. Score one for the visitors. My history was off!

But as to the rest, there you go again. What is the word bloggers like you like to use.

Projecting... I'm happy as a clam buddy. Life is good.

Go back and read my original post. I am specifically calling out people who are attacking people for having differing opinions. You know... Expressing themselves freely. That is the source of my "ire" as you continuously call it.

Yet I'm calling it the height of hilarity. Again..... Not calling them names and trying to pick fights...

Yet - go look at your responses... You telling me to chill out - that I'm taking this all to seriously - to stop expressing myself - pedantically correcting me with a smiley face when you know the intent. And I'm the one looking for an argument?

Oh wait - you were being funny!!!!! And practicing your Zen.

You're really, really good at it!!! See what you've done. You've really pissed me off now!!!! (Wink wink)

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@mperry_2000: try actually reading the review and it's clear and insulting bias, a.k.a. "trash fire" in the first line.

The difference between critical and insulting is not a thin line, at least not in this context. A reviewer respectful of the various tastes of their audience would know that, as the self-fucking trogdolite that wrote this article clearly doesnt.

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@Richardthe3rd: You and I traded barbs before on this very issue. I'm glad you liked the show. I'm sorry this reviewers tone hurt your feelings.

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@mperry_2000: alright, I'll bite.

I dont understand this portion of the critique being levelled at the show:

" I wanted and expected more from a show that earned my respect and attention by telling us one story, and then betrayed it at the end; not necessarily to tell another, but by ostensibly using a far inferior story teller."

Do me a favor and search google for "Daenarys Season 1 quotes." You'll find an array of things like "my enemies will die screaming" and "I will take what is mine, with fire and blood."

Flash forward 7 seasons, and she's done exactly that.

People decided to forget who Daenerys was along the way, because she had a cohort of characters keeping her in check, or she just hadn't been pushed.

This is, of course, just one example I've seen of criticisms people are responding to with regards to a shift in character development or narrative tone.

"The way it was told:" I assume belies the shorter episode count of the last 2 seasons. Imagine having 4 massive texts of deep characterization, a fifth text that's weaker, but still more of the same, and then being dropped off a proverbial cliff of undefined depth where you instead of converting plot objectives and character development to screen, you're now also writing them.

GRRM has called himself a "gardener" when it comes to developing characters; that is, he creates them then follows their development as he goes. That process is likely much different when writing a book, than on the screen, where writing and designing must be done prior to actually filming.

A departure from that "storytelling" was more or less inevitable. These guys were venturing into black waters.

The question that's more important is whether this shift in tone and pace damaged the character development. Opinions are free to vary there and likely will; some will want more content with twists and multiple perspectives; others feel fine with the brisker, straightforward and less fleshed out chain of events.

The alternative? You wait for GRRM to finish his books, assuming he ever does (many believe he's "gardened" himself into a corner and isn't actually capable of finishing). Actors in TV land age themselves out of the roles, die, whatever and GoT never has an ending.

Or you get someone else to tell the rest of the story. A huge risk, considering the showrunners clearly struggled enough keeping the tone uniform.

What you got was a compromise. All things considered in my opinion, a very good one. Hard to know until we see the source material.

I think the passionate responses to this show are great, but I think it's deplorable to see people outright malign the show in this way as though there was no thought, it was rushed, etc. Clearly this isn't the case. Clearly the people involved with this show cared a lot, and they wanted to make something great. That's why I get angry, and yeah, I really shouldn't.

(That was too long)

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@Richardthe3rd: Trash Fire is generous. This season was a scat bukkake, on fire.

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@BiggChonies882: LMFAO! I just got a visual on that, it was not pretty at all...

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@BiggChonies882: hey man, if you're into that sort of stuff cool, but maybe keep it to yourself?

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@Richardthe3rd: I'd be embarrassed but there are people running around here defending this scat orgy of a season. Have some self-respect people.

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@BiggChonies882: nah, just take my advice and go ahead and be embarrassed. It's clear you have every reason to be.

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@Richardthe3rd: Again, I would be, but there are people out there who actually think this constitutes as a good season of television. What kind of sickos are these people? I mean did they watch the season? It was an absolute scat tsunami!

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@Richardthe3rd: well said. the cinematography and music have been top notch this season, yet people complain about "the switch" in Dany (where were they the previous 7 seasons?) and the "rushed" story telling. To that, I ask, what are you supposed to do to get to the end? In previous seasons, when something dramatically ends (like Rob Stark suddenly losing) we have so many other story lines to follow to compensate. but this is the end! you can't make up new threads at this point!

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@Tekarukite: "To that, I ask, what are you supposed to do to get to the end?" Write something that isn't complete shit. A seagull could have wrote a better season than that.

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@BiggChonies882: was it tho? just because we aren't shown filler episodes of pining or hemming and hawing and instead see decisive moves and you know, conclusions?

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@Tekarukite: You can't conclude the fight between living and dead and the fight for the Iron Throne in 4 episodes. Show-runners ditched the series to do Star Wars. If you were a fan of season eight you simply have bad taste.

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@f4ilsp0t: Go read NPR's -- it's somehow even worse. Just idiotic snark throughout a play-by-play,every time. Nearly impossible to read without spraining your eyes from rolling them constantly.

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@Pyrosa: just another reason I'm conflicted about liking NPR, but thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely steer clear.

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Rather than read the tripe above, I recommend going to the site below for a much better write up.

https://tv.avclub.com/in-the-end-game-of-thrones-sings-a-song-of-ice-fire-1834879182/amp

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I enjoyed this. GoT's ending was always going to be difficult due to it's high quality from the off. Maintaining a standard that was set from the start for 73 episodes would be bordering on the impossible especially without the original author's penmanship to rely on at the back end of the show which is why many people are criticising it.

I always knew that there wouldn't be too much occuring in the final episode as many threads needed weaving into one and noone is ever happy these days, even more so on a gaming website where people can criticise a Lego adaptation for being too childish. It is what it is, even if you didn't enjoy it just let it lie and take in those awesome memories of how a story drew you in, confused you, shocked you and even disgusted you at times. TV has never been so good in my opinion, Game of Thrones was a game changer and has my utmost respect and admiration despite it's flaws. I doubt anything will come close to topping this for a long time to come and, as such, GoT sits upon the throne for now.

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@gotrekfabian: Glad you digged it :)

I just felt such total ambivelance to all of it at the end. Thought I would love or hate the ending, but was just "meh".

What I seriously dislike are people who completely lose their shit over any reviews that do not match their opinion of the show. I even see there is a petition online with millions of votes to "redo" season 8 with different writers, so there are plenty who are very unhappy as well. Of course, that will never happen, but people are just straight up rabid on both sides of this thing.

Like I said though, I'm glad it was satisfying for you.

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@aross2004: Petitioning for a remake already says everything about youth today: If something isn't to their liking they believe that they have a right to have it altered to their vision and will whittle on about even the most trivial of issues.

I guess I understand your stance on the ending/final season as it did seem under par when compared to other episodes but, for me, I found it pleasing from inception to conclusion and looked forward to each episode. Sure, there wasn't that much to conclude besides the seating of one of the characters on the throne but it played out nicely and I thought that the final cinematics were very well done where the melding and cutting of scenes were concerned. I understand that some are disappointed with the ending but it wasn't as bad as some endings I have seen (Lost, Sopranos, Heroes etc.) but then this is all down to individual preference.

I'm sad that it has ended but for all the right reasons.

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@gotrekfabian: well said sir.

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The final lesson of Game of Thrones: F*** power, freedom is everything. The scene where Drogon burns the Iron Throne was the best ever. The dragon was wise. It wasn't Jon who killed Daenerys. It was the lust for absolute power.

In the end Arya departs for her own journey to the west, Sansa releases the North from the clutches of King's Landing and Jon, after sacrificing everything to shield the realms of men, leaves with his friends to live freely in the true North. And he is very damn happy.

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Last episode was very slow. Cersi's death needed more gruesome and so as it stands it fell short and is unfulfilling. I just feel empty about it, unlike the emotional roller coaster from the first few seasons.

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Yeah, I agree with most of that. The show took a bad road to a good ending. Disappointing, but I feel better about it than I expected I would.

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Y'all thought the current Star Wars trilogy has had difficulties?

These guys are in charge of the next three films.

Re: GoT Finale... Meh. No real surprises... More gorgeous cinematography w/CGI, and a mixed bag of scenes.

I expected a diner, and got a diner.

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I wouldn't say the season was garbage. I enjoyed it, but it was totally rushed out the door no doubt about that. One thing excellent about the finale was the council meeting with Tyrion, Bronn, Davos Brienne, and Sam. I'd watch an hour of that every week! Lol

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I had actually been Fine with the season so far but the final was just ridiculous there were so many other things to point to such a better ending Arya didn't end up killing anyone except for the night king santa didn't deserve to be Queen of the North she threw a fit whenever John bend the knee but yet just totally betrayed him didn't give a craft that they wanted to send them up North.

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@mestupidface: Santa's a queen? ?

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Everything that happened this season could make sense, but they put zero context around anything anyone did. It's like they literally just filmed the bulletpoints GRRM gave them and called it a day.

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A great series with a not so great ending ... disappointed that this is the best the writers could come up with. Left you with a "we got cheated" feeling...sad.

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Its over now. I hope people won't drag this up for too long and move on. For me THE WIRE is still the best HBO show.

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@supamastergamer: The Wire was excellent!

The Sopranos could have been right up there if not for possibly one of the worst finales in TV history.

A shit ending can truly ruin an entire series.

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As a member of Team Cersei, I have to disagree with the "fitting end".

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Critics going to criticize and nerds love nothing more than second guessing and poking at art that is far beyond their meager creative means. For me, there was nary a misstep in this show, but I never brought a boatload of expectation nor a critical eye. I simply let it unfold in the way it was intended--an entertaining ride in a faraway world. Thumbs up to the entire show and we can only hope that the future might hold something as grand and sweeping as this.

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@DougSwan: My sentiments exactly. Despite enjoying the what if's and pondering over theories nothing beats the unfolding of a story being told to me and this was one of the best. Too many assume to have better talents than the writers of this [the TV show] but most can barely construct a paragraph of writing on their own reflections on that which they criticise.

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I just came here to see how laughable of a review they would write. And sure enough, the first line says it all.

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people are mad because they loved a mass murderer the entire time. they could also add a few episodes between the 3 and 4 episode and make it part of the exclusive of the bluray series.

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GOT was utterly rushed after season 6. There's no doubt about that.

It's too bad HBO couldn't sign different writers for the last 2 seasons. I understand D&D didn't want to do it anymore, but throw the fans a bone and let someone else take over. Such a shame.

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Seasons 7 and 8 should have been 10 episodes each, the show deserved it, the characters deserved it and the fans deserved it. Bran, who now is suddenly absolutely fine with being called Bran, and his storyline was just complete garbage. Disappointing that the show ended up being rushed but I still enjoyed my years watching it.

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@Salt_AU:

It should have been 4 seasons of 10 episodes. Last two seasons were an absolute joke.

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“Dany wound up being her father's daughter after all, which is depressing, but not unrealistic.”

Yet you committed your last review to calling out the writers for the path Danny took. Completely contradicting yourself.

Worst part about season 8 has been reading reviews and complaints like yours. Too bad your “theories” all got proven wrong, might as well throw a temper tantrum online.

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@doodoflife: Your post is ridiculous. Spread hate towards your family not here. Its there fault your life is the way it is.

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@Jibroni: your right, it is their fault my life is the way it is. How dare they raise me with good values to get happily married, enjoy being a father, own a nice home, and have a successful career.

It’s a shame that posting my opinion on a video game site has sent my entire life in a downward spiral of hate bc some poster who doesn’t even know my first name said so...

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@doodoflife: LOL

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“Given the smelly trash fire that the episodes leading up to it were”

Oh yeah. This is a review to take seriously.

Lol. Stopped reading after that. Not because I disagree, rather because there is something else going on under the hood and this reviewer is letting his emotions and agenda show in his writing.

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@Sindred: sorry bro but this season is garbage in my opinion too. I understand you disagree, but just know that many others do agree :)

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Endings are hard.

Even end game couldn't stick the landing.

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They went full on Mass Effect 3 with this ending. They threw out 8 years of story and had Grey Worm in the role of the star child telling the lords of Westeros to choose their fate. What an awful finish to an amazing series and it might not have been so bad if it just wasn't so rushed.

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@poppadux: It was Tyrion who led that scene. It was realistic for the unsullied to be upset, their queen was murdered.

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I’m just going to wait for the Books, the show has been terrible for a few seasons now.

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@Terrorantula: Like he said in the review "The point is: The broad strokes of this ending may be what the author has in mind, and, if he ever manages to finish his own story, this may be the ending that we ultimately get. But the way we get there will likely be characterized not by the bad taste of a botched rush job, but by the careful plotting, endless detail, and realistic, complex characters that the story actually began with." I may also read the books but only long after the bad taste has dissipated.

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@ChrisAnetkaC: The problem is it has felt rushed, it's as if they wanted to end it to do Star Wars.

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@Terrorantula: Yes, and I think that is the secondary and most important source of all issues (primary being they're not George Martin). Instead of treating this as an excuse I prefer to see it as a major mistake if not outright crime. If they were in such a hurry they should have handed the job over to someone else instead of just getting it over. The actors also wanted to get this over with so they could move on to better and bigger things (we'll yet see about that) and we got what we got.

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@ChrisAnetkaC: The books are SO much better with very big differences from the show, (like major characters dying who were still in the show big).

Don't want to spoil anything with that, but the decisions made in the show were just mind boggling.

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@aross2004: Thanks for the recommendation. I wanted to read the books before the show even started but never got around to it. Now I need a few years' break before I decide to finally start them. But the spinoffs are on the way now. There is no telling how bad these will turn out.

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@ChrisAnetkaC: I feel you on needing a break.

I almost wish I had never read the books before seeing the show. I think I would have liked the show more if I wasn't constantly bumping it up against the books, and wondering why they made such huge and seemingly pointless, (in my opinion), changes.

I know the show and the books are supposed to be separate entities since the show got ahead of the books, but the huge changes they made even before they got ahead of the books just made no sense to me, (and still don't after having seen the complete picture now).

Maybe after a couple of years, you'll consider picking up the books. The show was just the cliffnotes version, the books are straight up legit.

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@aross2004: Very interesting. I'm exactly on the opposite side from you on this subject. A co-worker recommended the books to me (at least two of which he read) about 11 years ago. He scared me with the description of their size and as I'm a slow reader (I like to take my time plus I have limited time for reading) I decided to put reading them off into indefinite future. If I were in your shoes I probably would have stopped watching the show after the first season, dissatisfied with the way things were going. As it was I stuck with it to the end and only in this final season I realized I had a bucket of ice cold water emptied on my head a long time ago.

I think you're describing a common issue in those Hollywood screenplay writers and directors which can only be described as arrogance. They think they're so much smarter than the writers. That's the way it looks. Plus Hollywood has one common mold that all movies and series have to fit into. Certain dialogues, snappy responses, actions of characters (especially the bad guys) have photocopy quality and feel. It's nauseating after a while and watching feels like a waste of time. Too bad the books have to suffer for it in my case.

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