Fallout 4 Will Run 1080p/30fps on PS4, Xbox One, "PC Not Limited in Any Way"

[Update] Bethesda says PC version will not be constrained.

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[Update]: Bethesda has clarified that, while the Xbox One and PS4 versions of Fallout 4 will run at 1080p and 30fps, the "resolution and FPS are not limited in any way on the PC."

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Bethesda has confirmed Fallout 4 will run at 1080p and 30 frames per second on PC, Xbox One, and PlayStation 4 when it released later this year.

Todd Howard, creative director at Bethesda Game Studios, told Digital Spy that the upcoming post-apocalyptic open-world RPG would is "1080p on everything," continuing to confirm it would also run at 30fps, as opposed to 60fps.

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Fallout 4 was shown at length during Bethesda's E3 2015 press conference. During the event, Howard appeared on stage and discussed the game's deep customisation features, showed off the overhauled Pip-Boy, and revealed the real-life Pip-Boy that will be available with special editions of the game.

During the conference, Bethesda also handed out a limited edition set of figurines to lucky attendees. However, those same collector's item showed up on ebay immediately afterwards for more than $300.

GameSpot interviewed Todd Howard during E3 2015 about Fallout 4. Among other things, he revealed that the development team had rebuilt the first-person shooting in Fallout 4 to make it more viable for players that aren't fond of the VATS mechanic.

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fight_next2me

This whole PC vs console debate is absurd.

They coexist. One can't be without the other. I've been a senior network analyst, network engineer, worked in signals intelligence, and everything in between, so believe me, I know what I'm talking about.

I've built several PCs throughout my life, some specifically for gaming and some for productivity and I've operated in many environments, everything... Ubuntu, Linux, Unix, windows, Mac OS, android, etc. But let me tell you (especially to the a-hole that said he could build a PC that would obliterate any console for $600), in our present market, it is impossible that PC is "better" than console.

While computers manage the entire backend, from streaming, server management, graphic design, to various other aspects... It's just not feasible to build a system that offers what a console offers. Sure, overwhelming power can be had with a PC, but that's not all the is encompassed in the gaming experience . Let's touch on some issues that PCs can not overcome:

1. Comfort - Who the hell wants to sit at a desk and game? Not I says the IT professional, not I says the blue collar worker, not I says the office drone. Why? Because you're either sitting on your ass, at a desk, working on a computer all day at work, or, you're standing up, physically exerting yourself all day at work. What's that? You have a rig that allows you comfortably lay on your couch or bed? Well what about your keyboard and mouse? Does it conveniently rest on your lap without stressing your wrists, elevating your arms, or taking up more space than the size of an ergonomic controller? Oh, you mapped a controller? That's cool, but what if Friend X comes over and plops on your couch and asks you to toss them a controller? Can't split screen? Too bad, they probably should've played online at home or dragged their own PC to your place. What about friend Y? Oh, no Super Smash Bros Wii U today, huh? Let's say your significant other wants to cuddle up and watch Netflix... Now you're going to hop off your rig and go to your living room? Oh, you have it set up as a media server? Well that's not very comfortable, nor efficient. Which brings me to my next point...

2. Cost - Think about the scenarios above. You really think you can accomplish all that with a $600 PC? The PC internals alone, to provide that experience, would soar beyond this. Now factor in software, external hardware, a workstation/furniture to allow those conveniences... Sorry, that's not cheap. So you have 60 fps, 1080, spread across multiple monitors, blah blah blah? How are you accomplishing that? I'll tell you how; expensive graphics cards, excess cabling, expensive multiple displays... Definitely costing a lot more, I'm sure. The list goes on.

3. Viruses, adware, malware, and other compromising variables - 'Nuff said.

4. Functionality - Consoles ARE computers, hell, XB1 will be running what is basically windows 10 with a tweaked kernel, etc. However, consoles are specifically designed for gaming, convenience, comfort, and as ALL-IN-ONE set top boxes. PCs are not... They are designed for productivity and other lite recreational activities. Sure, you can ADAPT one to be a great PERFORMING gaming rig, but you're ignoring its original purpose/form/functionality. That's the equivalent of modifying a car to also function as a boat... Yeah it can be done, but why bother?! Don't get me wrong, I love the mods PC gamers create, I get super jelly, but guess what? That shit is coming to a console near you, slowly but surely.

There are definitely other factors that make a console the better choice and for reasons like these, you guys just come off like pretentious d-bags with no defense other than graphic fidelity. Enjoy blowing your money and constantly upgrading your rig, monitoring your CPU and GPU temperatures, overclocking shit; all so you can see the individual public hairs on your female mage's modded vag. I'll just have fun as comfortably as possible and when it's time for the new gen, I'll trade up with minimal cost.

Peace.

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Tony_17_2006

@fight_next2me: wow a whole essay and your still wrong.

the ps4 is vastly more powerful than the average gaming pc, and its ridiculous that theres yet another console generation failing the user, which is funny as the ps slogan is this is for the players... what is? the crappy free monthly game we get thrown at us? the shabby servers on most games making them unusable? slow ass loading of everything whilst ingame?, and a pathetic 30fps from the next company to fail us (Bethesda) and before you start with the bashing, eso is a joke and its not made by bethesda technically, but you put your name on it and it shows you support the making of another pos game.

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rabih55555

@Tony_17_2006:

Go read digital foundary articles. Most games runs on par with PS4 on budget PC with Core i3 4130 with GTX 750 Ti

You can today build a cheap gaming PC with new Core i3 6100 and GTX 950 and it should run most games at better graphics settings or frame rate than consoles

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al_is_here

@fight_next2me:

>Comfort

There are times when i will bring my pc to my living, sit on my couch and play mortal kombat with my controller

>Cost

">You really think you can accomplish all that with a $600 PC?"

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/mYXscf/i5-4460-gtx-960-650-great-intel-budget-gaming-build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmDLPVy4ZMo

yes you can, you bring horrible points by saying you need multiple monitors and you need to buy a new couch or desk, that is bullshit.Most people already own this stuff whether its a tv,monitor,couch,desk...its a redundant argument.Personally when i got my first computer, i already had a mouse,keyboard,monitor and a windows 7 copy...the only thing i needed to buy was a chair so i just used a family table chair until i got a new one.

>Viruses

This is a joke right? you still live in the 90s? viruses are not really relevant today

>Functionality

>"Consoles ARE computers, hell, XB1 will be running what is basically windows 10 with a tweaked kernel, etc."

1.A calculator is considered a computer, by saying somthing is a computer, it doesnt really mean anything,Just because the xbox one has a similar microprocessor/architecture to that of modern computers, it doesn't really mean anything nor does it imply the capabilities.

2.Xbox one will not be running a a full version of windows 10, it wont have .net nor will it provide the same functionality as windows or any other operating system.Very possible for microsoft to create a modified version of their os but it would still not perform like a genuine windows os

>"However, consoles are specifically designed for gaming, convenience, comfort, and as ALL-IN-ONE set top boxes."

Not really convenient but if you think so then so be it.I mean paying for full priced games year around and being duped 60 dollars a year just to play a multiplayer game is not convenient.Downloading movies,games, or programs or even multitasking is not convenient on any console.

>"They are designed for productivity and other lite recreational activities."

Computers are designed for whatever purpose you want, denying that is to deny facts.Everything in modern society is running on computers.There is no such thing as original design for computers.If i want to dedicate my pc just to store pictures then i can do that, if i want my pc to mine bit coins then i will do that...that is the primary difference between computers and consoles, it is unrestricted and that is what its supposed to be.

>"I love the mods PC gamers create, I get super jelly, but guess what? That shit is coming to a console near you, slowly but surely."

So you think just because bethesda will be making mod support for fo4 on consoles that consoles have mod support? that is just one game and you seem to forget that pc gamers are the ones who will be making these mods so they will decide whether or not to include console support.

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al_is_here

@fight_next2me: "so believe me, I know what I'm talking about."

then you said

"I've built several PCs throughout my life, some specifically for gaming and some for productivity and I've operated in many environments, everything... Ubuntu, Linux, Unix, windows, Mac OS, android, etc."

ubuntu is linux and android aswell...yeah you have no idea what you are talking about, i would gladly counter each point you made.

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saffant

@fight_next2me: Key diff: 60fps. Having bought GTA 5 on PS4 at 30 fps, then trying out 60fps on pc, it's safe to say I won't be going back any time soon except for exclusives.

PS: You don't sound like a senior network analyst. Or maybe you're just a poor one who got by.

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Ravenlore_basic

IT just really bothers me that this game is lacking on the PS4 because Microsoft paid so both games are the same. Nearly every other game on PS4 is pushed as far as possible for the time and it is more than what the XB1 can do.

PS4 is just stronger period. just as the Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 it was just a fact nothing against the PS2, but fact are facts. Now you can say that the difference at the moment is not great fine I would agree but still developers and coders should not slack off or rest on their laurels.

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Externalpower43

@Ravenlore_basic: While there was quite a difference between the PS2 and original Xbox there is almost no difference between the XB1 and PS4. The hardware, performance and look of all the games is virtually identical.

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3CupsofFlower

PC is irrelevant

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archav3n

@3cupsofflower: yeap irrelevant. without PC game don't even exists on consoles. you must be thinking developers make games using a controller and a console ya? lol

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3CupsofFlower

@archav3n: I'm glad you fell for that. I wasn't even serious.

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crashmer

Just wanted to point out that unlike most pc elitists here will make you believe a lot of people have PCs that are less modest and would like to have an enjoyable experience!

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elvis19seventy

Fukwads don't bring it out on the system it first came out on…..unreal. There is no way I will ever buy a PS4 just to play this game. Idiots.

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mustard_t1ger

@elvis19seventy:

"Fukwads...Grumble, grumble, grumble. Idiots" Fallout started on the PC, not the PS3, as you seem to imply. Regardless, your logic is nonsensical. Why not complain that the latest Mario game wasn't released on the NES? Software progresses as hardware progresses...get used to it.

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Thumbler76

Good call Bethesda, don't let consolle makers force you in any way.

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RossG

LMAO!!! You kids crack me up. I Have been gaming longer then probably 80% of you have been alive and it is like watching 5 year old's fighting about who picked the biggest booger.

Doesn't matter what you play on. I have played on both even though I prefer PC. The reason I prefer PC is because of simple facts. Having been in the computer industry since 1984 I will tell you this. When my PC needs more power I don't have to go out and buy a whole new computer. +1 I have many tools at my command to make my graphics better or, lower them for performance. +1 My computer will support multiple monitors without extra hardware or software. +1 Massive amounts of high end hardware controllers (like those used for flight simming). +1

Let's be honest here. You can not compare the 2. One is for playing games and is limited to it's included hardware. The other is a powerful tool that you can also play games on with unlimited possibility's.

You can continue to argue but it is basically a mute point.

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Gravity_Slave

@rossg:

"When my PC needs more power I don't have to go out and buy a whole new computer. "

No, you just drop several hundred on a new video card and memory which might as well be a new computer. If you've actually been in the "industry" as long as you claim, you'd know that gaming on a PC isn't practical anymore. It costs you 7-8 times more for practically the same gaming experience a console gives.

Most gamers don't give a flying fuk about having a "powerful tool" in your hands. We have standard PCs for that. But we buy consoles because they specialize in gaming and do it right without all the compatibility issues, crashes and bugs. How's that new Batman game working out on your powerful tool? Idlot.

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al_is_here

@Gravity_Slave:

"No, you just drop several hundred on a new video card and memory which might as well be a new computer."

Well no, an uprade can be anything but for arguments sake it would most likely only be a video card and no, a video card or both ram and video card is not a whole computer, i would call you an idiot for this but its often better not to insult others, the moment you do then you lose the argument.

"If you've actually been in the "industry" as long as you claim, you'd know that gaming on a PC isn't practical anymore."

Right, thats why its considered the most popular way to play games.That is downright false.


"It costs you 7-8 times more for practically the same gaming experience a console gives."

Wrong,It may cost twice the price of a xbox one or ps4 but you will have a better gaming experience


"But we buy consoles because they specialize in gaming"

No people like you buy consoles because you are ignorant and easily manipulated by marketing.

"and do it right without all the compatibility issues, crashes and bugs. How's that new Batman game working out on your powerful tool?"

Perhaps you should ask warner bros how they fucked that up, this is old news, rather than natively developing the game on pc they instead passed it to an unknown third rate developers to port.It was recalled since the massive dissatisfaction.That was just one game out of many games that were released this year without any problems.

So tell me, how is that 900p 30 fps coming along? what is it liek paying for a yearly subscription?

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Gravity_Slave

@al_is_here:

Wow, way to take 3 months for a comeback. But I can do lists too:

Well no, an uprade can be anything but for arguments sake it would most likely only be a video card and no, a video card or both ram and video card is not a whole computer, i would call you an idiot for this but its often better not to insult others, the moment you do then you lose the argument.

An upgrade can be anything. It can also be the difference between you running a game properly. A decent graphics card (mid range) will cost you $400+ and memory $100-$200. Last I heard, you PC snobs claim you can build a decent rig (which is BS) for under $500. So yeah, new computer. I would call you an asshole but it's best often not to....

"Right, thats why its considered the most popular way to play games.That is downright false."

Most popular among casuals playing sleepover games like 5 Nights at Freddy's maybe. Incase you missed the last decade, more households own a console than a toaster.

"Wrong,It may cost twice the price of a xbox one or ps4 but you will have a better gaming experience"

Twice as much? It costs $350 for a PS4. You saying you can build a rig for under $700 worth a damn? Please. And your definition of a better gaming experience differs from everyone else. I prefer playing on a comfy couch with a 60" HD TV and surround sound. But you enjoy sitting at a desk hunched over a 22" monitor.

"No people like you buy consoles because you are ignorant and easily manipulated by marketing."

Typical PC snobbery. And you wonder why you're hated in the community. I won't even debate such a stupid comment.

"Perhaps you should ask warner bros how they fucked that up, this is old news, rather than natively developing the game on pc they instead passed it to an unknown third rate developers to port.It was recalled since the massive dissatisfaction.That was just one game out of many games that were released this year without any problems."

Batman is but one example. Crashing and freezing is a longtime PC tradition. Every new game out you tools are sweating specs and dealing with bugs, glitches, hackers and pirates.

"So tell me, how is that 900p 30 fps coming along? what is it liek paying for a yearly subscription?"

Lol you been living under a rock son? Most of the games out now are all 1080p and running at 60fps. And really? Subs? How about all the MMO subs you guys pay for? You think your Internet is free. How about all those games you CANT trade in but consoles CAN? Not to mention you spend more for a platform that lasts half as long.

You fail.

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al_is_here

@Gravity_Slave:

>"A decent graphics card (mid range) will cost you $400+ and memory $100-$200"

You wouldn't need to upgrade ram but whatever.As far the claiming that a mid range gpu is 400 usd? yeah that is bullshit buddy, you can find a gtx 960 for 200 dollars or if you do a mail in rebate it would be 175 but if you want a better upgrade then you could spend an additional 100 and get a gtx 970 (300 usd for a high end card)

>"Last I heard, you PC snobs claim you can build a decent rig (which is BS) for under $500."

all i know is i could build you a pc that would give you a better experience than a console for around 600-650 but to answer your remark, yes you could build a pc for 500 that would perform better than a ps4 or xbox one.

>"Most popular among casuals playing sleepover games like 5 Nights at Freddy's maybe. Incase you missed the last decade, more households own a console than a toaster."

Casuals? guess you never played games like starcraft,dota,cs go or any other game? i mean pc games are delivering multi million dollar tournaments and are the forefront of esports....so as a console player you have no credibility on saying what is casual and what is not.As for the five nights of freddy thing, well we have more games that are extremely popular.

>"Twice as much? It costs $350 for a PS4. You saying you can build a rig for under $700 worth a damn? Please. And your definition of a better gaming experience differs from everyone else. I prefer playing on a comfy couch with a 60" HD TV and surround sound. But you enjoy sitting at a desk hunched over a 22" monitor."

Pcs are able to work on tvs, do you know what a hdmi cable is? truth is you can plug a pc into anything that has a display port or hdmi port.Also surround sound is a joke, my pair of krk rokit 6's beats your surround sound system any day of the week.

>"Typical PC snobbery."

doesnt matter if you try to deny it, it will not nullify the facts that gamers such as yourself will misconstrue information and believe anything because you are so attached to plastic boxes.

>"Batman is but one example. Crashing and freezing is a longtime PC tradition. Every new game out you tools are sweating specs and dealing with bugs, glitches, hackers and pirates."

Give me a list of games that came out this year that freezes or has bugs.As fr the hacker remark, you should know how easily people get vac banned for hacking, hacking is hardly a thing if you play games on steam, regardless hackers are everywhere regardless of platform

As for the pirate remark, well news flash, we do buy games..infact i have spent close to a thousand dollars on my steam account..ofcourse i didnt need to but i love games and i love buying dota items

http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/83972-pc-games-sales-eclipse-value-console-games-sales-2016/

Also we spend more money on hardware then you guys

http://www.destructoid.com/pc-gaming-hardware-market-holds-lead-over-consoles-278264.phtml

>"Lol you been living under a rock son? Most of the games out now are all 1080p and running at 60fps."

really?

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

Out of the 80+ games listed, only 30 ps4 games were 60 fps and 1080p resolution while the xbox one probably had less than 10.The funny thing is if you want a higher resolution or more frames, you will not have that option,.

>"How about all the MMO subs you guys pay for?"

I dont pay for mmos but there are plenty of free to play mmos available.

>"You think your Internet is free"

You pay for internet and then you pay a company to get permission to use internet that you already pay for, arent you a bright one...its like you arent even trying to deny that you are easily manipulated into giving money away for nothing in return.

>"How about all those games you CANT trade in but consoles CAN?"

So you trade in your games and get like 10 dollar in store credit at gamestop? and then you buy used games that you then pay out of pocket? and then you still try to act as if piracy is bad and that what you are doing is perfectly fine?

>"Not to mention you spend more for a platform that lasts half as long"

Nope, you will actually be paying less, a upgrade wouldnt cost much and it would increase the lifespan of the hardware, so pcs can last longer than consoles.

You fail jajajaja

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ipaxton

@rossg: enjoy that upscale 4k fool!

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al_is_here

@ipaxton: that was a stupid remark

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RossG

@ipaxton: Upscale? thanks for showing your utter stupidity about computers. You are dismissed now.

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ipaxton

@rossg: you have a whole 6 games that actually support NATIVE 4k rest are up scaled from 1080p shut the **** up retard.

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RossG

@ipaxton: LMFAO! 6 Games? Let me see, are you assuming? Guessing? or maybe just another 12 year old raised by crack heads? What the hell are you talking about? ipaxton is about as smart as a bag of hammers. I am laughing so hard here. I love when little boys show their utter stupidity. Thanks for the laugh ipaxton! You are dismissed now.

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ipaxton

@rossg: GTA V, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, Project CARS, Skyrim (4k support not actual native 4k) and one other game I can't think of. Oh and incase you can't read I said native which I just named off the games that support native. There's a big difference between native and upscale which you might be playing on a 4k TV but most likely you aren't even playing the games I named which therefore you are playing upscale 4k and you are dismissed fucktard. Like I said enjoy your upscale 4k.

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RossG

@ipaxton: LMFAO!!!!! I have one of those, Star Citizen which I rarely play. The rest of those are little kids games that I would not waste money on.!!! Hahaha!! I have a Flight simulator cockpit in my home dumb ass. I know it is something you can't afford on your mom and dads money. I Have a full size working 737 cockpit in my home that seats 2 all running in 4096 textures. You little kids thinking about nothing but your little pathetic limited software. You can't even think outside the box and see what a computer is capable of over your little box of hardware.

Maybe someday you will grow up and actually learn about a subject instead of just knowing what gamespot tells you. In the mean time you are now dismissed to go play with your pokemon game.......LMFAO!!!!!

P.S. Does your mommy and daddy know you use that kind of language? Hahahahahahahaha!!!!

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ipaxton

@rossg: Really? Nice immature response and not going to continue to argue with a child. Enjoy the upscaled Flight Sim X and X-Plane :D

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RossG

@ipaxton: Shows what you know dummy. I fly P3DV2. Oh that's right, You are a console gamer, You are limited in your knowledge of all things not console. Yes, crawl away now on your hands and knees now that you have been put in your place and are obviously so jealous of my massive system that you just had to go look at your little limited console box and cry. LMFAO!!!

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ipaxton

@rossg: lmfao dude P3DV2 is using Microsoft Flight Sim X engine which is 9yrs old which doesn't support native 4k. Just because you can play a game with 4k res doesn't mean it's native it's called upscaling. You're just wasting your money right now and not getting the full benefit of 4k but hey if that's your thing more power to you. In the mean time have fun with the upscaling.

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RossG

@ipaxton: Awwww.......He is so cute when he doesn't know what he is talking about. LOL

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ipaxton

@rossg: it's apparent you have no clue what native and upscaling is.

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RossG

@ipaxton: No, it is obvious you don't know anything abut computers. Go play with your little limited console now.

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ipaxton

@rossg: then prove me wrong instead of acting like a child.

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RossG

@ipaxton: I am sorry. I have given you all the information you need in past posts and if you don 't get it by now you never will. You obviously don't understand anything about textures.

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ipaxton

@rossg: you proved no information and all you done was shown how immature you are. 2nd of all textures has nothing to do with your monitor resolution, native, and upscaling, try again.

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RossG

@ipaxton: Read Dummy https://developer.nvidia.com/4k-ultra-high-resolution-development

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ipaxton

@rossg: that's talking about pixle density in the resolution fuckwad. You still haven't debunk my statements about upscaling either shithead. Please come back when you have something relevant to say.

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RossG

@ipaxton: LMAO!!!! Ok, I am done. Go play with your little limited box. You just don't and never will get it. By the way, go slap your parents for raising such a fool that he can't even carry on a conversation without swearing. It is the sign of a limited vocabulary and low IQ. :)

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ipaxton

@rossg: you are by far the dumbest peice of shit I ever met on the Internet. You can't even begin to understand simple things with computers let alone hold a peaceful conversation. every time I commented back I was met with insults you. Face it you been out classed by a console player and yes I play on PC to sometimes. (Built my own last year) Do us all a favor, grow up.

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RossG

@ipaxton: LMAO!!! Thanks for proving my point again about your low vocabulary, childish IQ and your lack of decent parents. But please, Keep going. I think your butt hurt ramblings are funny. Meanwhile I will be gaming without any upscale. I know you don't know what that is but maybe someday you will learn something abut computers. :)

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ipaxton

@rossg: As I said before P3D is using a 9yr old engine which doesn't and can't support native 4k. people using the latest version 2.5 are having a hard time maintaining 30fps and that's at 3084p which guess what? It's not full 4k and besides that they are all upscaling to that res. Also note I said before there's only 6 games out right now that actually support native full 4k 4096p. Now with that said the only person that's been childish is you all you done is meet me with insults with every post you made. There's a old saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing at all" you should try that.

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RossG

@ipaxton: WOW!!!! You clearly have no concept of what you talk about. I am running over 60fps in 4096 textures in P3DV2 on a 4k......LOL. Here is another thread to prove your stupidity.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/why-cant-pcs-upscale-unlike-consoles-26079057/

Go out on the Prepar3d forums and ask if they are upscaling. You will be laughed out of the forum.

Please continue to show your lack of knowledge on this issue. Please point me to one article of credible information that says PC's upscale.

Good luck and someday you will get over being butt hurt. Now please continue with your curse filled posts. :)

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ipaxton

@rossg: 4k monitors can't do more then 60fps and I very much doubt you are achieving 60fps in p3d. Second of all FSX and p3d has a max texture res of 1024, when you try to change it it automatically defaults back to 1024, it's hard coded and everybody knows this. Also FSX/P3d don't upscale natively so when your monitor is running 4096 you are actually still playing in 1080p. Go watch some YouTube videos and you will see people say they used a outside program to achieve 4k. Also I will say this for a 3rd time, there is only 6 games out right now that will support your stupid 4k monitor at 4096p natively that means you can actually tell the game to play in 4096 in the settings. 6 whole games, you understand that right? Why you think I haven't moved to a 4k monitor yet? Upscaling sucks that's why and it's a waste of money.

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RossG

@ipaxton: LMAO!!! OMG!!! This is classic!!!! You have NO clue what Lockheed Martin has done with the code. You have NO idea of anything you talk about. Seriously....Are you 15?? Also, where is your information that shows PC's are upscaling? You can't find one I know because the only way to get a PC to upscale is to actually set it to do that within the utility for your video card. I still want you to go in to the P3D forums at Lockheed Martin and talk this stuff because they could use the laugh over there. FSX CAN run in HD Textures but you have to set that manually in the CFG file. See, again you don't know what you are talking about. Please, do yourself a favor and go back to playing Pokemon on your little limited box. I would suggest you try doing some real research instead of bumping your gums together.

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ipaxton

@rossg: yes. I know exactly what hey did they added in directx 11 support and multi core cpu support and nowhere does it say 4k support. You're still upscaling and have fun with that.

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Dilemmas

@Gravity_Slave:

Total ignorance.

A PC costing 7-8x more? Ridiculous. For $600 a gaming PC capable of obliterating current-gen consoles is easily put together. That's only around an extra $200. Money you'll make back quickly due to the economy of PC gaming - cheaper games and no additional cost for online services (what the hell is up with consoles charging for that?). You'll probably even end up saving money in the long-run if you're smart.

And guess what else? Playing at 60+fps and not being capped at 30fps like a sucker, higher graphical effects that often aren't available to consoles, running at a 2k resolution, not having to rely on awful, blurry post-process antialiasing that barely works for anything other than blurring up the screen.

Not to mention a much longer lifespan (even without upgrades). And unlimited functionality and utility outside of gaming.

So based entirely on these metrics consoles are irrelevant. But of course consoles are relevant - simply because the masses don't wish to handle the additional complexity of a PC, and that's fair enough. A shame then that this simplicity breeds so much ignorance.

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Schwah

@rossg: Wait, what? I was with you there for a moment when you appeared to be pointing out how ridiculous it is to argue about the hierarchy of personal preferences, but then comes, "And here is my personal preference and it is inarguably the best." I must have missed something... maybe it was the muted part of your point ;-)

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ForceSkin

@rossg: *moot

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RossG

@ForceSkin: Thank You :)