Fallout 4 Was "Basically Done" Before Bethesda Even Announced It

"You're not adding new features in May, June, July in the year you're releasing; you're trying to get everything fixed."

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Bethesda's upcoming role-playing game Fallout 4 is "basically done," according to marketing executive Pete Hines. In a recent interview, Hines told GameSpot that it's too late to implement new fan-requested features. Instead, Bethesda Game Studios is now spending its time on bug-fixing and polish.

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"Let's be honest, [right now] it doesn't matter what anybody wants for a feature in Fallout 4," Hines said. "The game is basically done. It was by and large done before we announced it, in terms of the features going in. You're not adding new features in May, June, July in the year you're releasing; you're trying to get everything fixed."

This is not to say Bethesda doesn't listen to fan feedback. Hines stressed that the developer pored over forums and reviews for Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim in an effort to make Fallout 4 a better game.

"All of that stuff is important. A good developer knows how to take all that and figure out how to address is," Hines said. "You can do anything, you just can't do everything. So you have to be able to prioritize and figure out what are the big wins, what are the challenges you're going to tackle, and what are the things you just don't have the bandwidth to take on."

Fallout 4 director Todd Howard previously explained how lessons learned from Skyrim's technical bugs will improve Fallout 4.

The Fallout 4 release date is lined up for November 10. Barring any last-minute delay, the game will arrive fewer than five months after it was announced last month during Bethesda's E3 briefing.

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Vegerunks

So what we can gather by this post is that if the game is launched with a bunch of glitches minor or major we can boycott Bethesda because they are spending an extra 6 months on bug fixes that no other company does nowadays?

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crf_stewarje

@Vegerunks: If that's what you took from this article, you're an idiot.

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phili878

that is a good approach to games, at least people don't have to wait for many years after the announcement.

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davidsworld3

@phili878: This I'm in full agreement with you.

Wish we could have it sooner I just hope this isn't bug riddled.

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analgrin

@phili878: They say it's "basically done" but when it comes out and people start complaining about all the bugs they no doubt say "Sorry but we've not had time to fix everything before release"

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alchemy60

@analgrin: It's not possible to fix 100% of the bugs. There's so few of them and millions of fans. No matter how hard they try in 6 months they won't find everything. I don't get why people expect perfection in massive RPG games like this. It simply CAN'T be done.

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quickshooterMk2

i knew it

skyrim was basiclly new vegas with swords and magic

now Fallout 4 is gonna be skyrim with guns

bethesda are very environment friendly

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starjay009

So it was done even before they announced it ? Yeah with all the random bugs we are yet to witness come launch day. I can't wait..... NOT. Some of those bugs with Skyrim and New Vegas were annoying and almost game breaking for me. Thankfully, being a PC gamer, mods fixed most of them in the first few weeks within launch.

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slayer9806

@Flen15 then they shouldn't advertise it as something they are behind.

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slayer9806

I wonder if they mean "basically done" like fallout 3, or basically done like new vegas or elder scrolls online. They seem to have kinda let the quality die on their games lately.

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Flen15

@slayer9806: I'd just like to point out that Elder Scrolls Online and New Vegas were not developed by Bethesda.

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sithalo

@slayer9806: by the looks of what it said in the article, basically done as in story, weapons, mechanics, the like, where implemented and they where only adding and tweaking smaller things. And they have been spending most of the time leading up to the announcement and release doing fixes and clean ups and squishing bugs.

"You're not adding new features in May, June, July in the year you're releasing; you're trying to get everything fixed."

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slayer9806

@sithalo: That's what they say anyways.

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sithalo

@slayer9806: hey i just replied to you else where lol. well yeh they say that. theres no reason for them to lie about that. maybe they are doing that maybe they are not. it doesnt actually matter. chances are they listed to feedback and are refining things more and squishing bugs. theres no reason for them to lie about that.

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slayer9806

@sithalo: I saw that lol I'm just here to cause issues obviously :p

Can you tell I'm irritated with bethesda?

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sithalo

@slayer9806: to many people cause to many issues lol.

ive gotten that feeling that you might be slightly bugged by them XD

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slayer9806

@sithalo: Forums are great because I can find people who get irritated with what I say then the point of the conversations just go out the window :P

Them and some people on forums, but that's beside the point ;)

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sithalo

@slayer9806: interesting

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facts23

skyrim was the biggest disappointment last gen, so i am a bit reluctant about blindly cheering another bethesda release. they might have already lost their sould by going down the minimum input maximum output route. skyrim was a pretty major title and they screwed it up, so i won't hold my breath for fallout 4 until i have read the first non-biased reviews.

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sithalo

@facts23: screwed it up? to each their own actually. you did not like skyrim. many many many other people did like skyrim. Skyrim tends to be considerd one of the best games of last gen last i heard.

minimum input maxium output?

biased review? like someone who gets paid to give a game a good review if its a bad game?

you shouldnt have to wait long. less than a day likely. im sure within 24-48 hours a number of reviews will be on youtube from random people who are not biased in their review.

unless its fan bias which can be just as annoying.

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Vegerunks

@sithalo: Skyrim is not that big of a game unless you look at the PC community which skyrocketed its popularity because of not it being a good game in itself but its mod capability. I hate Vanilla Skyrim but I love it when I am playing Skyrim with 200~ mods on it.

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sithalo

@Vegerunks: its still a fairly big game but much less so. it was a good game in itself. it wasnt a super great game but it was a good game. and like most good games that modders can make mods for they become much better.

starcraft 2 is a good game, the things people make and put on arcade make it great though.

civilization is a good game, Iv with caveman 2 cosmos makes it a great game (atleast to me)

fallout 3 and nv where good games and i played them for a very long time on the xbox. mods made them much much better games.

im ok with vanilla in most games but its just so much better with mods that theres no reason to play w/o them.

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thereal25

A game that launches bug free?

I doubt it.

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sithalo

@thereal25: unlikely but better 10 major bugs at launch than 11

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Drkr_Zen

I can't wait. I was honestly expecting them to pull a Nintendo and give a vague "2016" for the release date.

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p1p3dream

I agree with others on here - It's really nice to have a game announced, and then have a solid release date that is NOT three years down the road. I don't like the habit developers have gotten into, with announcing titles that are so far off from being done.

Although, there isn't too much that could be helped with that in the new generation- I feel like they released these new consoles about a year or even two, too early. They just didn't have the games they needed close enough to being finished- hence all of these re-makes and re-masters to fill out the game space while we await the real games coming in 2016.

Having said that, man, I have to tip my hat to Bethesda, the games they make are just monstrous- I can't even imagine being a director for one of these titals... so much responsibility, there is so much content to handle.

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schnarr

As a former game developer, that was obvious - print packaging has to start about 3 months before release, certification and RTM at least a month-and-a-half before release for manufacturing and shipping lag time. I actually predicted that it wouldn't ship this year unless it was basically done before the reveal.

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cooltoast

@schnarr: I'm not a game developer but from a logic standpoint, that's how I always assumed how it went. That's why I laugh at people who say games with boring gameplay betas will be perfect before their launch in just a few months. People who played Destiny beta and expected an entirely different game at launch I'm looking at you

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push88

... and that's the way it SHOULD be. Just sayin'.

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adamus

i just hope i dont see the same shit on news section ive been reading for most AAA games. doesnt work on PC or the console version frame rate cant even handle 30 fps and the game still needs 10 more patches to be played without game braking bugs. lets hope the remaining great developers of our beloved games take notice of what shit Batman and AC got from the fans releasing a pile of turd and charging money for it without even noticing the obvious bugs and glitches that invested their games.

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Lethal_Shadow

These comments of praise are hilarious. Here is a newsflash: This is common practice. Games slated for a Fall release always go into final polish and bug fixing mode in the summer. As you approach Fall, anything less than gamebreaking bugs is deemed "shippable" as the devs focus on passing Microsoft / Sony's certification... usually this ends up with a promise of day1 patch to fix gamebreakers. Nothing to see here! (5 years working in QA)

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crf_stewarje

@Lethal_Shadow: Your pessimism is laughable.

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strrckshn

This game's reveal didn't do it for me. It felt like an incremental progression rather than a full-on next-gen re-imagining of the series. I will still play it, and hope the full product will blow us away.

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Rebelphoenix

@strrckshn: Why the hell does everything have to be a "next gen re imagining.???" It's a sequel to an incredibly popular game series, they didn't have to make it, but they did. Now be grateful and eat your cereal. There are kids starving in Ethiopia.

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Ebonguard

@Rebelphoenix: Love this comment!!!!

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waelse1

Keep the Fallout 4 content coming, helps deal with the wait. Not surprising they have been just killing bugs for months, unless they want it to have the quality on release of New Vegas. It took a full year to come out with a bug patch that killed the worst bugs.

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TheGreatPhoenix

Well it was the same with skyrim, they did nothing for 2 months with that one. they spent it trying to come up with concepts for the dlc that would follow. and the video was kinda fun.

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Soundaholic92

Another November release. I fear for my grades this semester.

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locke90

@Soundaholic92: im more worried about work lol

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SaberRin

"This is not to say Bethesda doesn't listen to fan feedback. Hines stressed that the developer pored over forums and reviews for Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim in an effort to make Fallout 4 a better game."

No mention of New Vegas. I guess Bethesda don't care about that game then and what people did or didn't like about it. Typical.

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jjjcube

@SaberRin: You do realize Bethesda didn't develop New Vegas, Obsidian did.

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alpha_unit97

@SaberRin: Wow, at least they did it right? They could've easily ignored player feedback on their previous games. Plus, they didn't make New Vegas anyways.

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jdsonic14

I'm sure they have more than 12 people on QA. Let's hope for the best.

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chris120379

Just give me a playable game Bethesda, and by that I don't mean 100% bug free, which I think is pretty much impossible in a game of this scale. Looking forward to this title, dunno if it'll be a day 1 buy tho.