DICE explains why Frostbite skipped Wii U

Developer says it ran tests on Nintendo hardware with "not-too-promising results" and so "chose not to go down that path."

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Frostbite engine developer DICE has explained why the technology is not supported on Wii U.

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According to comments from Frostbite technical director Johan Andersson (via NeoGAF), early tests left much to be desired.

"[Frostbite 3] has never been running on Wii U," Andersson said on Twitter. "We did some tests with not too promising results with [Frostbite 2] & chose not to go down that path."

The new Electronic Arts-produced Star Wars games from DICE and Visceral Games revealed yesterday will run on the Frostbite 3 game engine. These titles were not named outright.

Other upcoming games running on Frostbite 3 include Battlefield 4, Dragon Age III: Inquisition, and the next Mass Effect.

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Yeah, the Atari 2600 can't run Frostbite either...

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I have the U. I have Madden 13 and Need For Speed Most Wanted U for it (I think they are both great games). It's fine that EA isn't going to develop some of their most successful franchises for it.

But really, tell the truth as to why you won't instead of lying through your teeth that your Frostbite engine does not run well on the U. Tell the truth that you have differing philosophies on how you are at odds with the digital distribution of your products. But don't treat us consumers like we don't what's going when it is obvious.

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i will still want the wii u console regardless of some key franchise titles skipping the wii u.still there are fair and decent amount of games to still loook forward to.

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Gogo Nintendo , more mario games !! you can do it... pathetic ..

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And I have been supporting Sony, blizzard, valve, naughy dog, rockstar, gearbox etc... Too. And i still choose to have a wii u hooked up to my tv with my gaming pc and no other consoles.

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Madworld, no more hereos, muramasa, little kings story, geometry wars, redsteel 2, xenoblade, ff crystal bearers, godfather, Star Wars force unleashed...,. Are all decent games that make good use of gimmick motion controls all by 3rd parties. There are lots more, not mentioning Nintendo games. I also played plenty of ps3 and pc games last gen too.

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I really, really want to support Nintendo.. but they're just digging their own graves.

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Man Most Wanted with PC textures not possible on other consoles along with a steadier frame rate sure does sound nice. I guess it boils down to developers to learn the tech or for EA to put a band aid on the origin wound. Also this whole Nintendo is going under crap just makes me laugh. No one not Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo is going to lose enough money from console sales to go under. These are facts not opinions. I could link you to sales charts all day long, but it's your job before posting to do research not for me to do it for you even though I was nice enough to do it this time.



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Wii U = Dreamcast

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@Eagles409 i would argue that the dreamcast was significantly better.

Wii U = Pet rock

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Edited By speedracer3190

I love you guys and girls,trolls, Sheep, and... did I miss anybody?

Nintendo does fine on its own software, if EA doesn't want to support then that's their and Nintendo's problem. Nintendo owners usually buy another system for the 3rd party games.

I would like for the WiiU to do good, I really do.

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Sorry guys, Nintendo is failing. The Wii was amazing for what it was, but this Wii-U gimmick just sucks and developers are staying away. I smell, "Jaguar." Hell it even looks like a Jaguar, the controller anyways hehe. If Nintendo puts EVERY old school Nintendo game online and lets us play, WIN. Whatever they are doing now just sucks. Focus on Retro Nintendo! You are retro, don't forget it. Hell even do more current, but retro style games like these indie guys are doing. It's working! Do it with your technology and add innovative twists. Then i'd like to buy your console. Yay!

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You pretty much described what they are already doing.

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At this point, this article isn't even necessary. But keep your heads up Nintendo fanboys, NOA hears your complaints and is sending smartphone games your way. Now you get to play angry birds on tv and on the tablet.

the rest of us will enjoy big time releases and exclusives. so i guess it balances out.

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@racerxgundam Awesome, I love angry birds!

I am happy because as a Nintendo fan Angry Birds is all I need from a Nintendo device.

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Frostbite 3 creates a few best looking games out there.

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@PSYCHOV3N0M I'm sorry, but I disagree with you about BF3 being the PC graphics king. And I own/play it on PC.

Not saying it's bad though. It's quite beautiful, actually. It's just not my favorite visually.

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@knyght1008 You sounded like a kiddie with that comment.

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Man, I always love those Wii U-Fail news, cause they always attracts those commentators to buzz around, which reminds me of how Sh_t attracts flies. at the end, if Nintendo's E3 shows that they got games it will no surprise drive the Wii U sales, only then EA and the rest of the gang will sneak in to Join the party. WiiU is a $hitty hardware at the moment just pray that Nintendo themselves does not see it that way just yet and pull the plug.

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Edited By Episode23

it is not the technical aspect. it is the fact that no one buys the wii u. it makes economically not the slightest sense for anyone to support the latest n-wonder.

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@Episode23 It's technical... when you think about it, everything comes down to technical issues. However hard it is to port the engine to different consoles judges how much time, and in the end, money will be spent to do it. If it wasn't a pain to program a port of Frostbite 3 engine to Wii U, then it would probably cost very little and make the Wii U a "why not" type of console. There are still potential buyers on that system.

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@Episode23 I think it's mainly technical

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poor poor Wii U

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wiitarded.

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these negative comments and news about wii u and third party developers sound like the last 2 previous gens....is this even news anymore?

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@jsmoke03 This feels oh so familiar.

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Edited By HydePark1980

LMAO......wouldn't be surprised if someone else from DICE gives a different story that totally contradicts this one.

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@HydePark1980

They pretty much did, they said that with BF4, they're only focusing on the "low spec" consoles, indicating that they categorize the Wii U as a "high spec console" or "next gen console."

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@abHS4L88 @HydePark1980 I don't understand. Why is DICE focusing on "low spec" consoles for a game that's running on a next gen engine??

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I don't know, I'm just posting what they said. Maybe to show the scaling capabilities of Frostbite 3? I mean part of the draw of these next gen engines is not only the power, but how easy it's supposed to be to scale games depending on the platform it's being brought to in order to decrease development costs.

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Problem?...

Ninsheep?

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I'm inclined to believe that something deep is going on between Nintendo and EA. This is not a good excuse because DICE apparently has the game running on the 360 and Ps3. It should be common knowledge by now that the WiiU is more capable than the current generation consoles. Activision, Ubisoft and Bethesda consider the WiiU a next generation system. DICE themselves said before when BF4 was first confirmed that they wanted to focus on the low spec machines so the WiiU was out of the question. These contradicting articles just irritates me. Someone is lying.

Like I said, I believe there is some beef with EA: Crysis 3 was running beautifully on the WiiU but EA refused to publish it. Madden, EA's biggest franchise that never skips a console, is now skipping the WiiU. Fifa 14 is rumoured to not to be released on the console. Battlefield 4 is giving out contradicting excuses to not support the WiiU. I don't know. Maybe the WiiU truly is underpowered as EA claims, but I highly doubt it. Nothing seems certain yet.

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@thetravman EA does not want to lose money. Perhaps they are going through financial difficulties.

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@thetravman You are right

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Will Nintendo fanboys finally accept the truth that the hardware of the Wii U sucks?

These are engine experts. There are few others qualified to test the specs.

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@Thanatos2k

And yet when you have the SAME EXACT developers making statements saying that they're not bringing Battlefield 4 to the Wii U because they're focusing on the "low spec consoles" kind of contradictory to what you're saying huh? How about when Crytek, another developer under EA had their most graphically intensive game Crysis 3, up and running on the Wii U ready to be put on a disc and shipped but suddenly canned?

Sure they're experts, but it doesn't mean everything they say is true or they mean what they say, and since this is developer under EA we're talking about, there's obvious BS going on behind the scenes.

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Edited By xolivierx

A console exists for the sole purpose of playing games on it. Therefore, with no games, what is the purpose of the WiiU?

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@xolivierx Microsoft would disagree, games are not the sole purpose anymore, now you'll have cable TV as well.

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@RAD_RADIO @holtrocks Erm... Not to be too nitpicky, but since it competes with the current gen with regards to performance, it was out of date 8 YEARS ago.

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Remember EA was all over the WiiU and they sort of stopped. This must really hurt there relationship with Nintendo (and all other companies) to be so professionally untrustworthy

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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I honestly hope that this all goes viral, because the butthurt I'm seeing here is hilarious and the tears I taste are delicious.


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@PC_Otter Cartman, get out of this body!

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@PC_Otter where'd you go? LOL

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@PC_Otterthanks, I think it's a little embarrassing CPU but don't think that seeing 1.24 GHz cores is all that matters in performance. The PowerPC cores in the 360 do not have out-of-order execution. This means they can't change the order of instructions to execute them more efficiently, limiting the theoretical performance. It's more like an Intel Atom (in-order with Hyperthreading). On the other hand, the WiiU chip is more like an AMD Bobcat- lower clock speed, half the number of threads, but better real-world performance, largely due to OOOE.

If EA wanted to release games on the Wii U, they would pay DICE to tweak the Frostbite engine to run on Wii U, but EA is anti-Wii U. Simple as that.

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so much stupid fanboys hating on Eddie because he brings them bad news, if you people want to be left out in the dark that badly, just cut your internet service.

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