Crusader Kings Developer Announces Stellaris, Sci-Fi Grand Strategy Game

@spikepigeo:

@Jamoid:

What I mean is that 4X games have really, really outrageously boring/lackluster internal gameplay in my opinion (the same reason is why I haven't been able to get into the EU-series), while as Victoria had government ideologies that changed the gameplay through more or less radical economic policies. The POP system was also a very interesting mechanic to manage! I want more of that stuff. I'm quite interested in politics, and Victoria was always closest to the kind of thing I wanted.

So I guess what I would want from Victoria is the POP system and the political system from Victoria (improved and/or expanded, of course), it's science fiction so they can go all out on creative government forms, historical and non-historical - but to please me they MUST NOT get stuck in the 4X-style where you've chosen a government while setting up your faction and then that is what you'll have for the rest of the game, it will never change, there are no revolutions, no secessionists, no radicals, no conservatives, there is no population that have lives and ideas of how government should be run. I want my, say, democratic state to be able to BECOME an oppressive space-theocracy, not necessarily start as one. I enjoy muh immersion, man, and it was the greatest to see your nation change flag and/or colour and perhaps even its name after a revolution you may or may not have let happen.

Also flags pls, no crests or whatever, and allow the player to name and rename your nation depending on government form. Real time, not turn based. I suppose that's really all I want.

@Zloth2: Grand strategy games are one of the very best genres in terms of the average playtime users get out of them. You generally get your money's worth if you even remotely like the game.

Also - most DLC is entirely optional, aesthetic nonsense that really just serves as an incentive to give them money to continually support the game. The money goes straight back into the continued development of that game and others.

For the bigger DLC they release not only are they priced extremely fairly but if you choose not to buy them you still get a free patch with many of the new features included.

This is a mile away from companies that charge you for ridiculous things that were developed long before release. Blood pack, ugh.

@spikepigeo: Yeah, i certainly get a lot of hours out of CK2 but I can't justify paying for A low res 3D elephant or a new set of faces whose beards don't even fit properly. Especially when they stop modders from providing those specific kinds of content.

I definitely appreciate the ongoing support but a game like CK2 probably costs a lot less to make than an Uncharted or Assassin's Creed game so I don't feel obliged to pay hundreds of dollars to keep them going.