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Confirmed: 400,000 PS3s for US launch

[UPDATE 5] US Sony reps confirm scaled-down November 17 debut; Japan to get only 100,000 on November 11. Worldwide 2006 ship target now 2-2.4 million units--1-1.2 million of which will be for North America.

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This morning in Tokyo, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi announced that only 500,000 PlayStation 3s would be available in the US and Japan at launch, and that the console's European debut had been pushed back until 2007.

Of the 500,000 launch PS3s, 100,000 will go on sale in Japan on November 11, and 400,000 will hit store shelves in North America on November 17. "We decided to focus on the Japanese and US markets," Kutaragi told reporters at a Tokyo press conference before apologizing for the delay, according to the Associated Press. Reuters echoed the numbers and said that Kutaragi had lowered the worldwide 2006 PS3 shipment target from 4 million to 2 million.

When initially contacted by GameSpot about today's PS3 news, Sony reps said only that the company had "not announced specific ship numbers for Japan or North America." They also said that, despite the European delay and the reports of reduced shipment numbers, the previous estimates still stood. "[We] have announced that 2 million will be available in the world come November 11 and 17, and 4 million by the end of the calendar year," said a spokesperson.

However, later in the day, Dave Karraker, SCEA's newly appointed head of corporate communications, told GameSpot that the wire-service figures were correct. "400,000 is just the day-of-launch figure," said the executive. "1 to 1.2 million units [will be] available in North America by December 31." This afternoon, Karraker confirmed the reduced international numbers to The Rocky Mountain News. "Worldwide, there will be between 2 to 2.4 million units available in North America and Japan by the end of the year," he said.

Karraker also claimed that, while reduced, the US PS3 launch numbers bested those of another next-generation console. "By the end of the year, we will have...more than double what Microsoft sold through of Xbox 360 [in 2005]." He reiterated this sentiment to MTV News. "The supply we have at launch is comparable to what was available for the PlayStation 2, not Xbox 360," said Karraker. "The total allocation for units in North America...is just less than what we had for PS2 and more than Microsoft had for Xbox 360."

Both the PS2's October 2000 launch and the 360's November 2005 debut were plagued by widespread sellouts, long lines, and occasional scuffles at US retailers. Sony estimates it had around 500,000 PS2s available day of launch. By contrast, NPD reported that Microsoft sold around 326,000 units by the end of November 2005. However, the hard-to-find next-gen console moved just another 281,000 units during December, bringing the 2005 total to around 607,000 units--half the number of PS3s Sony believes it will sell this year in North America.

Speaking to MTV News, Karraker urged calm among prospective PS3 purchasers. "People shouldn't fixate on the day-one allocation number," Karraker he said. "They should instead be more interested in the overall units available through the holidays, which will be 1 million to 1.2 million, which are significant amounts that will provide retail supply week over week with no dips in available stock." This was likely a veiled reference to the fact that many 360 retailers did not have the console in stock for weeks--or months--after it went on sale.

Though the flurry of various launch figures was initially confusing, one thing has always been perfectly clear. Sony is officially sticking to its original PS3 sales estimates for its current fiscal year, which ends on March 31, 2007. "The previously announced PlayStation 3 shipment forecast of 6 million units globally within the fiscal year ending 2007 is not changed," the company said in a statement issued early this morning.

Karraker also offered an explanation for the PS3's European delay and US-Japanese supply problems. "The PlayStation 3 is a revolutionary, as well as evolutionary, product. If we were simply putting out PlayStation 2.1, it would be much easier to hit a worldwide launch," he said. "As it was, Ken Kutaragi set very ambitious goals for the PS3, based on what he felt we could achieve. The simple fact is that many of the components for the PS3, particularly the blue laser diode, had never been produced on a mass scale before."

The blue laser diode is a critical component of the high-capacity Blu-ray Disc drive that is at the center of the PS3. Sony is pushing the cutting-edge format, which can hold up to 50GB on a single-layered disc, to be the high-definition successor to the DVD format. Microsoft is backing a rival format, HD-DVD, and will offer an external HD-DVD drive this fall.

But for all of Blu-ray's promise, manufacturing players for the format has proven more than a little problematic. In February, Sony hinted blue laser diode production problems could delay the PS3 from its then-scheduled Spring 2007 launch. The new November launch date was confirmed at Sony's Electronic Entertainment Expo press conference in May, the same month Sony announced the US launch of the Blu-ray format had been pushed back. Meanwhile, in July, several Taiwanese business newspapers, including the Commercial Times, reported that Sony was falling behind in production of blue laser diodes, although Sony would not confirm those reports.

Analysts were swift in their response to the PS3 news. UBS's Michael Wallace predicted the delay could have an alarming ripple effect with third-party publishers. "We also think this delay could cause some of our companies to push some of their PS3 games out until March 2007 to take advantage of a larger installed base," he said in a statement. "We note that Activision (three launch titles), Electronic Arts (four to five launch titles), and Take-Two (three titles by January 2007) currently have the greatest exposure to the PS3 at launch, so they could be impacted the most by this delay."

Today's PS3 developments caused Wedbush Morgan Securities' Michael Pachter to lower his entire US annual software sales estimate--just issued yesterday--from three percent growth to two percent. He also tweaked his European annual game-sales estimate from one percent growth to a one percent loss. "Our prior forecast assumed that Sony would ship 2.3 million PS3s to the US and Europe in 2006," said Pachter. "Our revised forecast assumes shipments of 1.5 million to the US (unchanged) and zero to Europe (down from 800,000)."

Needless to say, the PS3's delay and any supply issues will be a boon to Sony's rivals, Nintendo and Microsoft. "There will undoubtedly be some 'substitution effect' from lower PS3 shipments, with a portion of the shortfall offset by higher sales of PlayStation 2, Xbox 360, and Wii hardware and software," Pachter said. "We have not adjusted our model to reflect this substitution...but we suspect that 25 to 50 percent of the shortfall in PS3 software sales (an estimated $124 million in Europe) will be offset by sales of software for the other platforms."

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I guess you all forgot that the PS2 used to cost around $600 in some places when first released and they still sold out, who would of thought that it was going to be one of the greatest consoles ever, still alive today. But there it is still selling in the millions, anybody else can say....MS....Nintendo..(silence) didnt think so. King_Dodongo mentioned that the PS2 is still selling better than Xbox because of fanboys?!?!? you could not be more wrong. Did you forget that maybe just maybe people want to play other games other than Ninja and the other handful of good xbox games (i agree those are good). Thats why thru gamers step into the blue zone, theyve got crabbings only Sony can satisfie. And then comes someone and compares the PS2 to a slightly better Dreamcast....I'll I have to say is wheres the Dreamcast...........Dead.

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Twinset77 - Did you not realise that the recent figures were released by Sony and once again they made Millions in profit? They are not solely a console manufacturer, you do know this right? No! Oh well...

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I remember on 360 lunch day Sony fanboy was like 360 was rushed blah blah blah and ps3 is gonna meet the demand big time, stupid fanboy. My question is ps3 2.5 meeting the demand now? You pathetic Sony fanboy should work it out 4 yourselves . All I can say is that gd luck to whoever is buying ps3 2.5 pissing my self laughing. Sony should not have made psp because that console sucked their time and that’s why ps3 took time to come out and look at the outcome. Because truly ps3 2.5 should have come out first before 360 if it wasn’t for psp All these shows that Sony was never ready to lunch ps3 2.5 in million years, look at them now seriously they are all over each other. IF YOU ASK ME PS3 IS NOT READY TO COME OUT YET, THIS CONSOLE NEEDS ANOTHER YEAR. Wait and see ps3 2.5 will have the biggest console bug in history. If you guys ask me xbox360 was never rushed the console was built fully and ps3 is rushed reason why I say ps3 2.5 is rushed is because Sony it self know that time is running out and they cant push back ps3 any further not when 360 is doing very well and Wii will defiantly sale well as well and Sony knows that pushing it back again means they are digging their own grave that why ps3 2.5 have to come out unfinished. Xbox360 is all round design and balance console AND I LOVE MINE TO BITS. SO ALL YOU PATHETIC SO CALLED SONY FANBOY PLZ ENJOY YOUR PS3 2.5 WHICH I CALLED UNFINISHED AND RUSHED CONSOLE.

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akuma.. nice post definately.. but i have to say.. you are obviously influenced by me.. as is everything. I invented shoes you know LOL seriously though, its true how a hype machine can work though right? Its just a shame that the biggest hype machine is actually out-hyping itself, to create some kind of hype-paradox event. I thought about it long (and especially hard, as usual) about getting a ps3 over a 360. Im even second guessing an xbox360 still, for myself ALONE, not just for other people in this fecking place. LOL Since this news, im definately for the 360, definately for the wii. I thought M$ was expensive on launch... i thought next gen was crap, and maybe sony WAS going to be awesome this time around.. i mean, they cant illude us THRICE right?? But once i saw the e3 ps3 conference, one i heard the proof of the rumours, once i saw the titles for release... and then that price... i was STILL thinking to myself "dang, i still wanna save up to get one!" because i thought that it must be some sort of illusion.. If silent hill 5 is out for the 360, thats it, im gone to the 360 indefinately, all by myself with my wii. Now this news about us not even getting one til march 07.. and still the crappy price tag.. and NO FREAKING HDMI CABLES!... Its like, couldnt be more of a deterrant for me. Now, and everyone, is seeing JUSt how sony are.. and this opens out the hype-paradox. FINALLY people are starting to see the light, and its certainly not blinding us out like the cell light effects are supposed to be doing to us heh heh. I just cant believe sony did this to themselves. They pushed out a crappy looking console, far away from its successful older brother.. it doesnt match the ps2s success, it doesnt match its price on launch, and it certainly doesnt and will NEVER match its launch. Im just glad the 360 and the wii is cheap. Even though technically they ARENT cheap.. because of sony, we are lead to believe that next gen really SHOULD cost us $600.. well because we've been drummed to believe that by sony.. we actully start to think that getting TWO consoles is going to be a normal thing! HHAHAHA. Im off to get me my two freaking consoles.. for the same price.. WITH cables.. BEFORE christmas!

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rl_41 **Why are half of them coming to North America? I would think it would be a bigger hit in Japan...** it does seem like somethings not right eh? who knows, maybe sony anticipates buggy consoles and doesn't want to piss off its strongest supporters?

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"The only reason the ps2 is still going strong is because its fanboys and the casual gamers who own it still havent figured out it was made obsolete by the xbox several years ago.sony has been relying on its name[built with the original ps,a favorite of mine] since the ps2[utter disapointment] launched.people are finally starting to catch on to sony's crap,and realize that there are better choices out there,something the real hardcore figured out long ago." I feel.... wisdom in those words

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I sware it's been nothing but negative news for Sony since E3... they need to get something right, fast, or else they'll have to go back to their pre-playstation days... but then again, PS3 could become huge in a few years, especially if bluray succeeds... remember, launch isnt everything

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You all must understand, Sony is going out of bussiness. If the PS3 flops, which in all honesty it should considering that they've had so many problems with blue-ray, that I bet at very least 20% of the concoles are broken compared to the 2-3% the xbox 360 had. I wouldnt be surprised if they all are returned because they dont work properly. Microsoft has money. They can afford to do anything they can imagine, Sonys PS3 is underbuggited (Sp) and thats because sony has so little money. I'm not flaming Sony or anything I'm pointing out that theres no way from A NEUTRAL point of view that PS3 is better than the 360 when the PS3 does come out. Its all about the money they have avaliable to them and this post was not to comment on their console making skills, just how the rest of the company is doing. Just thought you all ought a know why things are happening the way they are undoubtable going to.

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akuma7703 = Fanboy...

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kenshinhimura16... Sony compares their console to the 360.. so why cant we? or wii.. lol INMATURE as you elegantly put it GUY(s) Dont base your opinions on the fact that you biasedly perfer one company over the other without an explanation? First of all you say people are moaning about consoles and comparing them before they are out.. then, you fully back sony.. in a BAD NEWS FOR SONY topic.. wierd right? Erm, anyways.. People have a right to moan, coz its your favourite sony which let us all down. You really must love them for charging you $600, and then telling the rest of the world to wait, and not include the cables to top it all off! Whilst your worst favourite M$ offers you something MORE than that, for less. The wii is the honest to goodness gamers way to go. And if you want graphics only with typical gameplay, get a 360, because its a reasonable price to pay for this. Not $600!

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I'm not a fanboy. All fanboys and their generally baseless arguments have no place anyplace. First off, no matter how good PS2 games continue to look they will never look or play as good as Xbox games- fact. You'll never be comparing a PS2 game to Riddick, Halo, Ninja Gaiden or DOA. And yes, I own both systems- comparing a PS2 to an Xbox on either a technical or graphical level is like comparing a bicycle to a Ferrari... you'd have to be a complete retard (ie: fanboy) to make that comparison. Go to any videogame site (IGN, Gamespot etc), google them, or better yet buy the best available games for both systems. Take a first gen Xbox game like Halo and compare it to the most recent PS2 elite (take your pick- Mafia, Devil May Cry, Killzone, whatever)... there's no comparison. Trust me, you don't want to throw Riddick andthe 2K series in the mix. Arguing otherwise just proves how dumb you are (and I'm not calling names). That being said: Most adult gamers (myself included) who just want to deathmatch or rock some b-ball over the weekend, or after work with some friends ARE NOT going to spend 600 beans on a game console... that's ludicrous. And no matter how much garbage sony tries to feed you about the PS3 being "more than a game console", think back to the PS2 launch. Remember, they hyped it as being a "national security threat", packing "computing power with war-time implications". It ended up being just marginally more powerful than the Dreamcast...only with worse games. Them dudes have a history of lies. Peep the PS3 unveiling years later...the pre-rendered videos. The PS3 from what I've seen and heard in only slightly marginally (ie: just barely) more powerful than the 360. The only difference between games will be higher resolution textures (due to the extra storageof blu-ray) and more (not better) lighting effects courtesy of cell. A better machine no doubt, but marginal differences that don't justify spending an extra 200 beans on (and that does NOT include the HDMI cable... a real HDMI cable costs $50-$100). I'd use that extra 200 and cop some extra games or invest in a nice HDTV. I also seriously doubt blue-collar working parents would shell out $600 for a game console (and this is a good 60-70% of the market) for their kids. Also, by the time either Blu-Ray or HDTV becomes standard (and that's at least a year or two away) I'll cop a real player: wouldn't want to burn out my optical drive doing both. If the PS3 dropped for the same price as the 360 (or even $50 more) I might cop one... even then, Sony's projected game pricing ($70 - $90 per- WTF?) would make me think twice. I'm not going to say Sony'll flop or anything... but seriously ish isn't looking too good for the company: they've George Bush'd one time too many and karma's a b!tch.

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i knew this would happen hahhahahahahaha i just gotta laugh at that now thats wat i had to deal w/ when getting a 360 still ps3 will be a solid system i think wow i feel bad for ps3 fans i feel ur pain wonder wat its gonna be like for the US though

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rl_41 **Why are half of them coming to North America? I would think it would be a bigger hit in Japan...** Actually launch day 80% of the launch allocation is coming to the US. Not sure why Sony would give the $170 Wii that much breathing room at home, but I think Sony feels that the US is their top priority.. Kevin legionosh@msn.com

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i dont know how i missed your previous post Jermwarfare but i couldnt agree more, this is the one i am talking about the only reason the ps2 is still going strong is because its fanboys and the casual gamers who own it still havent figured out it was made obsolete by the xbox several years ago.sony has been relying on its name[built with the original ps,a favorite of mine] since the ps2[utter disapointment] launched.people are finally starting to catch on to sony's crap,and realize that there are better choices out there,something the real hardcore figured out long ago.

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Why are half of them coming to North America? I would think it would be a bigger hit in Japan...

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YOU SEE, JUST ANOTHER INMATURE GUY. PS3 CAN BE A HIT AND I HOPE SO, BUT I DONT BASE MY OPINIONS ON THAT. I STILL PREFER SONY TO MICROSOFT

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i just hope these sony freaks don't delay the ps3 here in the U.S. i would just about explode, cause im one of the few that will actually get one. maybe not at launch, but before the end of the calendar year, i would hope. dont put me down (again) sony. this dang ps3 was supposed to be out spring of this year.

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Hmm...looks like it'll be a b!tch to find a PS3. Just like a PS2, and a 360 when they launced... Damn...

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be quiet loser...kenshinhimura16

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Sony is making to many big mistakes, and will end up losing too the Xbox 360. They dont even have the big exclusive titles anymore. And the two big ones they had Grand Theft Auto 5 and Assassins Creed, our now 360 games. I'm still laughing at all the people who said the videos from their launch at E3 in 05 were real. Sony has to release they dont own the next gen market, and they'll have to work hard to catch up to Microsoft. And how will they ever be able to have an online even close to how Xbox Live is running now?

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Hey jasonpa! You are soo right about HDMI and 1080p. Of course higher resolution is always better. But people act like 1080p is going to make or break a games gaphics give me a break! Here is an example. My PC monitor is an older widscreen lcd. So I play my computer games in the equivalant of 720p. Now don't try and tell me some crap ass ps3 game that runs in 1080p will look half as good as Crysis on my monitor in 720p. So what i'm getting at is resolution is great to have the higher the better, but HD is HD, and 1080p does not a beautiful game make!

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wHY DOES ALL THE GUYS HERE COMPARE CONSOLES THAT HAVENT EVEN CAME OUT. ITS STUPID. XBOX 360 HAS ALMOST A YEAR OUT SO ITS NOT TO HARD TO KNOW THAT IT WILL LEAD THE WAR. WHEN SOMEBODY COMPARES A CONSOLE, DO IT WITH SOME BACKING, LIKE GAMEPLAY OR TRUE RESOLUTION IMAGES, NOT JUST THE ONES YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET OR IN THE CONVENTIONS. EVERYBODY COMPARES CONSOLE SAYING XBOX THIS XBOX THAT; BUT HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED WITH A PS3? COMPARISSONS SHOULD BE LEFT FOR LATER. LASTLY, WHAT WILL YOU FANBOYS WIN IF SONY FAILS, NOTHING EXCEPT THAT YOU MAY HAVE SAID THAT. CRITICISING THE CONSOLE OR THE FUTURE OWNER OF IT JUST SHOWS HOW INMATURE MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE IS.

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ADollins as much as I hate to admit it.....you got a point..... oh and jason believe me they will find them.

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G-Legend wrote "Wow there are pros and cons to this delay and the amount of systems coming out: 1) for the euros I know you feel bad but you'll get better launch titles for one maybe even bundle packs and you'll have more units. 2) PS3 is still going to have more PS3's then 360 did and be able to produce monthly rather than wait until like March of 06 to finally get a 360 and 3) I don't see why people complain you'll be able to get a great system for what it's priced at. People bring up old crap and rhumors watch when the Ps3 sells like hotcakes I know I still want one and if the rest of you don't better for me I have a better chance to get the greatest system." 1) Yeah this sucks for the Euros, it's a lose lose situation for them, they could possibly have more launch titles but I wouldn't bet on any "bundle packages without a boost in the $600/$500 (whatever that is in Euros) price tag. Sony wont be giving anything away considering thier gaming division has been showing such a loss in the market over the past few years. 2) If thier production numbers are accurate (and I think we can consider the numbers that they are giving us as suspect with today's news) more power to them, but if you don't think you are going to see groups of guys going into Best Buy and EB or wherever and buying 10-15 of these consoles as a group and then E-baying them (a serious problem that the 360 suffered from) for $1200-$2000 your nuts. 3) No one has said the PS3 wont sell, the problem with Sony ( and we are seeing it here) is that they promise one thing and produce another. Sony may have larfe sales numbers for the PS3 at first but if the 3rd party manufacturer's delay their production as is predicted above, thier wont be many games available for it so in the long run sales will be hurt. Bottom line, the PS3 will become a Niche market unto it'self with an extremely dedicated fan base but a much smallar one than that of the 360 and the Wii rankings for sales as of March (counting simply the holiday season-march, not taking into account the previous year of sales for MS) as follows: 1)Wii, 2) 360, 3) PS3 largest profits to MS, largest numbers to the Wii.

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Interesting. But I wonder if they will be able to find 400,000 people who actually want to buy one...

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Dont let sony sucker you into getting the launch systems. Hold off and wait if you are going to get one. Especially prelaunch tiltle cuz you dont know how much those games are really gonna cost. My advice is save you money and go buy a least expensive system. Wii or 360 and a couple of games for the same price of a Ps3 with one controller and no hook ups to the tv.

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Ha HA sony stole 360's HD-Dvd drive

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Sony will survive bankruptcy because its a massive company. Sonys games division, essentially is not dependant on the tv, walkman, etc part of sony. Its a seperate division. If it fails, it will carry on what it does best. But it will not make games for other consoles like sega does. The companies sony own, will call themselves different names and work for themselves, most probably. At least, sony collectively hasnt really created top games for their console IN HOUSE, they just bought up a company and slapped their name on the beginning. Sega devloped the console, and fuly backed and supported its games. Its a bit different. When sega fell, they just did what they did best, and that was make great games. Sony however will have to retreat to what they do best to make money, and that is dive out of the console market and just support their existing consoles. If ps3 fails this time, then nintendo is going to be the gaming influence, with microsoft buying developers out aswell. Those two forces are going to drive the next generation of gaming i think. By the time the NEXT NEXT generation is ready to come out, all someone needs to do is develop a console to battle against nintendo and m$ instead of sony.. and then sony are out for the count. I just think, after ALL this bad news, and a damn awful display at e3 (the most important thing ever for gaming imo) if they couldnt prepare enough for that.. and have some hairy dude freak trying to stop a controller taking control of him.. and generally just upset its user base with bad price, poor selection of games in the making for the price, and everything with the sony name on it being EXPENSIVE and not living up to what sony proclaim it is (like the psp).. All of this adds up to why we are having a laugh posting on here. I mean, sony arent goingto come on here and take our daft comments seriously. NUMBERS is Sony's language. If sony die out in this generation, they will find other ways to milk us. Its how they are. Its just a shame that they had to milk us til our nipples were red, and then attatch crocodile clips to them.. but oh, get this, get US to pay for the freakin cables to electrocute ourselves with :P

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G-Legend - "Wow there are pros and cons to this delay and the amount of systems coming out: 1) for the euros I know you feel bad but you'll get better launch titles for one maybe even bundle packs and you'll have more units. 2) PS3 is still going to have more PS3's then 360 did and be able to produce monthly rather than wait until like March of 06 to finally get a 360 and 3) I don't see why people complain you'll be able to get a great system for what it's priced at. People bring up old crap and rhumors watch when the Ps3 sells like hotcakes I know I still want one and if the rest of you don't better for me I have a better chance to get the greatest system." I was going to say something, but that was THE perfect post.

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Technicaly the 360 right now is the king, of next gen. Sony will be a no show this year, 400,000 units will not make it a king. If I was little johny and new I wasn't going to get the PS3 not becuse my parents couldn't afford it but becuse they couldn't find it I would ask for the 360, or the WII. And that folks will be the demise of Sony. The Xbox will always have a 4.5 million unit lead on Sony, and will have to massivly screw up to lose it. Sony will not be able to produce enough PS3s, and thier competition is already on the market, and will out produce them any day of the week. If Sony even thinks about more units then M$ will respond with a price drop. Let's face it M$ could afford to give away the 360 and it wouldn't hurt to bad. Sony is in the red, and betting thier company on the PS3's success, they cannot afford any more screwups. Also as fast as this anouncement I will bet my bottom dollar 3rd party support slows down dramaticly, and shifts to Xbox 360 and the WII. Why would I make a game for a non existant system. Sony needs to come up with a battle plan quick and drop the blue ray to an add on peice of hardware. If they don't then the price supply issue will cause their console to become another dreamcast. I don't dislike Sony and I don't dislike M$, however common sense says this will be the Sony;s nail in its coffin for the next generation console wars. Maybe with the Ps4 sony will make a comeback. I'm not dissing the PS3 I'm dissing the managment at Sony for making such boneheaded mistakes. -ADollins

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If you people out there still want a Ps3 then I say DONT. I loved playstation's systems and was a fan. But iIALSO THOUGHT DREAMCAST WOULD STICK AROUND FO MORE THAN TWO YEARS TOO. So waste your money on it if you want. ll it is is big business making the demnd go higher. From what i have seen, the graphics are the same as 360. I got my 360 a couple months ago and it has problems just like the Ps3 will. But dont go spending lunch and baby formula money on it cuz in the long run it most likely wont be worth it.

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if this is going to be a repeat of the 360 launch, we should watch it closely. i hope i get one.

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Sireph 8 PS3s per store? Maybe in the big cities, but during the 360 launch some stores here didn't even get a single 360, much less 8.. I lucked out and got a 360 at launch, but my friends at the local Game Xchange (where I'd often help out) managed to allocate one for me, but that's off topic.. One of the Gamestops here only got like 5 360s for the launch date. They had well over 50 reserves. A LOT of people were not happy. But you are right about one thing. it will indeed be chaos launch day (I also stood in line with a friend at Wal-Mart for several hours launch day as well...there were MANY an upset people, and the line was so long).. Reminds me of the PS2 launch. I was there for around 8-10 hours in line, the line grew to WELL over 100 people and they had only 26 PS2s (luckily I was number 5 in line..but man that was a long night...lol).. My 4.57 cents, Kevin legionosh@msn.com

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gamefan1980 o oH....what a come back (sight) and whats this I read about "if you can find one". So what if dont get it the first day it will eventually come on the next shippment. Unlike the x360 that sold out then took forever to be on the shelfs again, now I see them pilled all over the place everywhere. I guess everyone decided to hold on to their cash for the PS3 or WII no surprises there. And you, do everyone a favor and take yourself and your fanboys with you out of here, before people start to read all the nonsense you wrote.

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Call me when there's a price drop. I'm taking this Christmas off on vacation - to World of Warcraft :)

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Wow there are pros and cons to this delay and the amount of systems coming out: 1) for the euros I know you feel bad but you'll get better launch titles for one maybe even bundle packs and you'll have more units. 2) PS3 is still going to have more PS3's then 360 did and be able to produce monthly rather than wait until like March of 06 to finally get a 360 and 3) I don't see why people complain you'll be able to get a great system for what it's priced at. People bring up old crap and rhumors watch when the Ps3 sells like hotcakes :) I know I still want one and if the rest of you don't better for me I have a better chance to get the greatest system.

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Hello 00al2003, I had a Ps2 a year before I got my xbox (man was I dumb). Guess what I sold the ps2 a year after I got that xbox. The Ps2 is horrible, the controller is uncomfortable, the graphics are horrendous and games are garbage. Oh and if you would read below, I took some time to enlighten you. “And then you go on saying fanboy garbage (that you can obviously not backup)” I believe you are the fan boy with facts that you can’t back up. Why don’t you go to << LINK REMOVED >> and then compare the specs to << LINK REMOVED >>. I think it’s quite clear what console is better. “the only reason the PS2 is still improving is because it packs so much potential more than the xbox and developers are also using new and improved software/techniques” Ps2 having more potential? Give me a break! Let me ask you something, do you know what online gaming is? “I think the reason you come here and post your lame posts is because you own a X360 and you know oh yeah you know..the PS3 is going to be all over that but you already made mommy spend the money on it and thats why it burns you inside more n more every day as PS3 approaches” $600 for an overrated console, that most likely won’t deliver(remember sony’s claims about the Ps2, did they ever happen? No)? No thanks. “Just a heads up, talking about the Playstation 2/3 (the pimp daddy of all consoles) like that aint going to get you any friends around here…” You are one heck of a noob. I’m surprised that you even know what friends are! Do you ever play with them online? Wait what’s online? I recommend all Sony fans to read this.

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Haku_Ryushi- my last post was directed toward you.....just fyi.

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00al2003, you speak of how Gamefan1980 knows nothing, and for pointlessly abusing other posts that actually makes sense, i will show you how exactly wrong you are my friend. First off, how dare he say the ps3 is unproven technology? where else have you seen the cell processor actually succeed because before ps3, it didn't exist so technically yes it is unproven, which just in case you didn't know, is not saying anything bad about the technology, its just saying its experimental (much like blu-ray). And what is it exactly that gives the ps1 so much more potential then the xbox? i see nothing in your post supporting this other then, (the pimp daddy of all consoles). It would seem as if the retarded sony ad campaigns have attracted just what they wanted. Secondly, why are we trying to find an xbox RPG that hasn't been on PC? Its no secret that Xbox uses very pc friendly developing software, why can't the companies that make RPG's make them for PC? Its an added bonus for developing for a game for xbox that shouldn't be excluded without reason. And while you are right xbox does lack RPGs, i have no idea why you couldn't just say that instead of asking for a pointless comparison. So just a heads up, talking like a moron and trying to foolishly argue with posts that actual make sense, wont get you noticed as anything but an arrogant fanboy. By the way, in no way im i trying to tell you NOT to get a ps3... please do! that way I wont have to waste my time kicking your dumb *** on xbox live.

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Vamroc.......shut the hell up. its going to be PSWii now. microsoft has NOTHING. it dissappointed me.

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A lot of you must not know sony too well, thinking that they will go down that easy

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Playstation 3 = Neo Dreamcast yes I said it PS3 is about to be Dreamcasted. Just like SEGA Sony will end up making games for the only other two consoles the 360 and the Wii. Thats provided Sony survives Bankruptcy.

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jasonpa Just wanted to tell you thank you as well for the kind words (and intelligence seems to be a trait you have as well).. Maybe people like and I and GameAuthority can knock some sense into the cows..er I mean fanboys...er no wait I mean..oh never mind...lol.. ;-) None the less, thanks again for the kind words. I look forward to your future comments. Kevin legionosh@msn.com

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00al2003 This isn't the first time Sony has backed out on a " promise " . Most RPG makers that never made a game for the original xbox, yet did for the ps2 are on board for the 360 now. I might get a PS3...but i'm going to wait a while. The first batch is going to have a load of problems ( like any system at launch ) . Besides that , I don't think their games look that great. Sure the graphics are cute and pretty but the games don't look like anything I can't get on the 360 besides MGS4. Oh...and after backing out of yet another bold statement...I don't trust Sony.

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LMAO!!! the sony fanboys are so defensive and on edge! dont worry,in a few days im sure you can delude yourselfs back into believing the ps3 will be the greatest thing going....strength in numbers remember,if enough of you pat each other on the back you'll all feel better before long.

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GameAuthority Just wanted to say it's nice to know the thought and effort into making a logical and practical statement hasn't gone on deaf ears. ;-) Many thanks on the compliment (and by the way your posts seem pretty well thought out as well). :-) Take it easy, Kevin legionosh@msn.com

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ShadoweaverCode ***LegionOSH - true that and you seem a pretty cool dude with some valid points all around. but yet posting valid points with a response email is just begging for some cowmail to roll through. beware tho man, the cows are very pissy right now.*** So it would seem....well I guess we'll have to take 'em down one at a time.. ;-) Naw I am pretty ok with people unless they are A) being ingorant B) a total arrogant a$$ (Gee sony comes to mind all of a sudden..just kidding boys and girls..lol).. or C) all of the above. Then the gloves come off.. :-) Anyway you seem pretty cool Shadow. Glad to know some people can see the forest despite the trees. ;-) Kevin legionosh@msn.com

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Does everybody here have anything else to do besides write these posts?!?! It looks like you could be better off writing books with the amount of content dished out! jasonpa ... You're making a lot of assumptions before the PS3 even comes out! I'd reserve my judgement until December, at least. Also there are significant differences between component (analog) versus HDMI (digital) inputs, just google it!

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all i have to say is i live in the uk was redy for ps3 and this is crap 2007 y cant uk have them 1st GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

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