Binary Domain hits Xbox 360 and PS3 February 14

Yakuza creator's robotic rebellion kicks off on Valentine's Day in North America, February 17 in Europe.

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Sega has set a date for the robotic uprising of its upcoming Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game Binary Domain. The squad-based third-person shooter will get the chance to win gamers' hearts in North America this coming Valentine's Day, February 14, with European players able to pick it up February 17.

Is anyone supposed to be surprised when a robot that looks like that turns on humanity?
Is anyone supposed to be surprised when a robot that looks like that turns on humanity?

Binary Domain is set in Tokyo in the year 2080, a time when humans are locked in battle with robots. In the game, players take control of a human peacekeeping team set on regaining control of the city. However, as the peacekeepers continue their fight against the robots, they begin to ponder whether or not they are becoming robotic or robots are becoming human. The game is the latest project from Toshihiro Nagoshi, best known for his work on the Yakuza and Super Monkey Ball franchises.

"When you hear sci-fi, you may think of cold, clinical environments, but with Binary Domain, I wanted to combine this with a deep human drama," Nagoshi said upon the game's announcement. "The keyword we have in mind for this project is 'Life.' I wanted to make something that will be accepted by both the Japanese and Western markets, and this fundamental theme is something everyone knows but which the full extent of can be difficult to grasp."

For more on the game, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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@infinitecrysis It is so EASY to kill something when you pretend that it's not human and therefore not deserving of life. Like swatting a fly, really. If we apply those same dehumanizing attitudes towards other people, tragedies like the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide happen. If we are to better ourselves as a species, we must grow beyond such idiocy and learn how to act in a responsible, disciplined manner that provides the greatest utility and common good for all.

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@infinitecrysis In other words, what I'm getting at here is that our attitude towards robots - and other non-human entities - says more about us as human beings than it says about the robots. Whether or not robots exist in the form depicted is utterly irrelevant. The whole point is that this sort of violent dreck is what we're using to entertain ourselves, and that can have a detrimental effect on our psyche. Even if it does not necessarily provoke us to violent action, it still creates a situation where our minds simultaneously manufacture and justify prejudices against symbolic representations of entire belief systems. What do we hope to gain by imagining ourselves as the universe's ultimate bullies? How does expending our mental energies in a destructive manner help society as a whole? Wouldn't it be better to act constructively in this situation? No. You're not even given a choice. You can't bring peace with the robots. You have to destroy the robots. The robots are the enemy. You must destroy them. You can't NOT destroy them. They are your intrinsic foe. For one thing, that's utterly banal. For another thing, it's just meaningless brainwashing.

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@infinitecrysis Humans have been fighting each other since the dawn of history. The only thing that has changed is the hardware we use in the act of war. If we continue to treat hypothetical intelligent robots as antagonists in fiction, we will engender an atmosphere of real-world hostility towards artificial intelligences and the scientists trying to develop them and apply them towards philanthropic purposes instead of harnessing them as tools of war. If we act as if robots are the enemy, then that is what they may very well become. If we feel threatened by robots, then that is a sign that we are not yet mature enough to wield them properly. We must shun our animal instincts and approach this issue with cautious judgment and a firm hand. I mean, think about the train of logic that leads one to treat a robot as an enemy rather than a potential friend. After accusing them of attempting to control, subvert or dominate you, you lash out at them and destroy them, because it's so easy to kill that which is not human. What does that tell you about humans? From what I can gather, it bespeaks unimaginable barbarity. Robot-bashing is roughly the same thing as gay-bashing. It sends the same exact message; toe the line or you get smashed up by a bunch of moral crusaders that can't accept you for being different. If we can learn to love robots instead of treating them as deviations from the norm, maybe we can learn to love and appreciate each other a bit more, too?

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@Allan_X cont'd You don't know if you would've enjoyed the Killzone more if you sympathized more with the ISA as opposed to Helghast because you haven't experienced it and never will. You enjoyed the game because it was good, in spite of having opposite beliefs of it. Basically what I'm saying is that it's a video game and it's not intended to make anyone angry or start an ideological debate. It's meant to entertain and if it's going to do that for you, why bring up senseless babble about how robots are being miscast? Which at this point is impossible because there's not enough evidence either way to say what they would actually be like.

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@Allan_X Roomba, really.. that's what you're classifying as a robot for comparison to something like this? An automated vacuum... The fact is, to our knowledge that when humans were such a young species that we weren't hell bent on destroying everything in our path. But than we evolved. Watch iRobot with Will Smith. It simply talks about and explains that it's entirely possible for a robot or operating system which is built and created by humans may have the same flaws and evolve in the same ways and become psychopathic and murderous. Just as humans have. The fact that you have felt sorry or felt empathy for an opposing force in a video game simply means that you are human. Do you really think that all of the soldiers in WW1 or WW2 did it because they wanted to or that they enjoyed it? The fact is that they were doing it because they were ordered to and it was their job. It's possible to enjoy something and root for the opposition yes. I have done this as well. But my original point was that you stated that this game looked like fun and then proceeded to rip it apart essentially stating why you think it won't be fun. Despite thinking it will be there's always a part of you that because of your ideology and beliefs on the matter that you still have something against the story and the way that they put it together which makes it that you will not enjoy it enough.

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@infinitecrysis I have indeed played - and in some cases, greatly enjoyed - games where it was clear that the ideology of their creators did not quite line up with my own. While playing Metal Gear Solid and its sequels, I had a bunch of wishy-washy Aesop's Fables about the wondrous virtues of pacifism shoved in my face as I went about conducting what is essentially a military operation for the sake of a shadow government. Did I enjoy the game any less because of it? No. When I played Killzone and its sequels, I sympathized with the Helghast more than the ISA. Did that prevent me from enjoying the game? No, it did not. When I played Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War, I sided with the AWWNB faction despite the fact that I was forced to blow them out of the sky to advance the plot. Did that prevent me from enjoying the game? No, it did not. When I played Crackdown, I despised the idea of being used as a pawn by the Agency. Did that prevent me from enjoying the game? No, it did not. When I played Command & Conquer, I saw Nod as the actual good guys and GDI as a big, stuffy bureaucracy. Does that mean that I avoided playing the GDI campaigns? No, it does not. As far as robots "not existing" goes, I haven't seen my Roomba start two World Wars, stuff innocent folks into gas chambers, vivisect prisoners in the name of science and blow up a pair of cities with atomic bombs. I think robots - so far - have a much better track record than humans do.

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I stopped reading at "Toshihiro Nagoshi, best known for his work on the Yakuza and Super Monkey Ball franchises"

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@Allan_X I bring up Russia and the middle east because they're constantly cast as the antagonist in video games. Just as robots, really not hard to make the comparison based on that. In your first post you went on to tear the game up because it's using robots as antagonists. And I quote "I mean, doesn't it seem a little trite and over-indulgent to stereotype sentient artificial intelligences as genocidal maniacs before they're even created in the real world? It makes about as much sense to me as a cautionary tale about the dangers of dragons and unicorns. And then, in the midst of all this hackneyed writing, they naturally cast a "chosen few" with extraordinary combat abilities and quick wits as the "saviors of humanity"." How is that not saying this game won't be fun? Do you usually play games that you can't see the point in or games that don't agree with your version of reality? The fact is that robots don't exist and may never exist. So the fact that you're saying we should base it on reality and history makes no sense what so ever. Because there is none that is solid enough to make a conclusion.

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@Allan_X Don't play this game then. Look how easy it is. But I insist; You see too much serious stuff in simple fiction and conclude that people has irrational fear for robots and AI in general. Don't you still have things like "Ghost in The Shell" out there?. If at any point (thing that not even you can tell) robots walk the streets with us there will be supporters like you and people against it, same goes for robotic implants (Deus Ex Human revolution seems to play well with this). Since you are convinced of it you should start by accepting that some people will disagree with you. Also try to respect the tastes of other people that some people like this stuff just as an quick non-deep entertainment and preffer to take seriously other stuff (in my case, museums and art galeries). Cheers, And enough with this conversation

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@zzamaro It fact IT's a lot easier to develop for PC. The only problem is ensuring compatibility with most of systems (which is just time consuming, nothing else)

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@HollowNinja "Why do Japanese developers hate the PC so much?" Simple. Developers are lazy.

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Can't wait to get my hands on this!

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@Warlord_Irochi Oh, and one last thing... I use a keyboard with blank keys and can type with my eyes closed. I think I might be a freakin' robot.

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@Warlord_Irochi And yes, I have long been aware of the unrealistic nature of your average first-person military-themed shooter. For starters, almost all of the combat takes place at close range; literally close enough to just run up and stab one's opponent in the face with a knife. Real-life combat with assault rifles involves two groups of combatants who are about two to four football fields away from each other popping in and out of cover to suppress the other group with single shots and/or short bursts of fire. Using iron sights or unmagnified electronic or tritium sights, they look like little specks on the horizon to each other. Thrilling, eh? If you want a taste of what real warfare is like, play Operation Flashpoint or ARMA. It's almost exactly like the real thing, only with quite a bit less tedium.

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@Warlord_Irochi What you call "feeling" is merely a series of chemical interactions in your brain. These hormonal processes could potentially be simulated by a sufficiently powerful strong AI, allowing it to experience creativity and emotion on the same level as a human being. How is this possible, you say? Simple. You map the human brain, figure out which specialized regions are stimulated by specific androgens, and then apply the same stimulus to a similarly-organized artificial neural network. Easier said than done, as it requires a level of brain imaging resolution and an understanding of neural networks that our species does not presently have. Soon, that will change. In case you're wondering, I much prefer the more sympathetic fictional account of robots and artificial intelligences provided by futurists such as Isaac Asimov or Iain M. Banks. I find their stories much more intellectually stimulating and plausible than these paranoid, technophobic, Chicken Little-esque yarns about robot rebellion that exist only to satisfy the summer blockbuster crowd.

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Tokyo AND robots?! I never saw it coming! lol I liked it better when it was called Terminator.

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@Allan_X Dude, the Judgement Day will come in no time and we barely have a few years to defend ourselves... and that will be good luck if the zombie apocalypse and the 2012 doomsday does not pick us up off-guarded. No time to be friendly with robots. Ok, jokes aside: " A sufficiently powerful AI could write a poem". If you can't tell the difference between a AI and human creativity through feelings and emotions... then I REALLY hope you are just making a prank, if not I'm really sorry for you... And again: Games are NOT reality. By that rule you should also criticize Call of Duty and Battlefield for making wars look fun and cool.

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Bladerunner meets Snatcher meets Yakuza 4. In a game? HOT DAMN!

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@Allan_X. The terms of morality and the concept of human enslavement is probably better left to a different thread. But, I agree about the multitasking., etc.

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@jubdeidamasta That's an interesting hypothesis. The public's irrational fears about the misuse or exploitation of machines by humans can easily be equivocated to the same fears about human slavery, but this requires a certain lack of knowledge on the part of the individual. See, not all robots have to be sentient. Some are indeed just automated machines, with no need for cognitive capabilities of their own. If they were controlled by an actual strong AI from a central location, that AI would likely have enough cognitive ability to both control its drones and engage in leisure activities - if it even required such a thing - at the same time. A sufficiently powerful AI could write a poem, read a book, watch a movie, compose an orchestra and run a factory simultaneously. Humans, on the other hand, cannot multi-task to the same degree. If we are enslaved and forced to perform a single action, we cannot use that time to do other things. Therefore, it is justly considered immoral to force human beings to use their finite lifespans in a manner that they do not wish for.

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Lol @ the three laws theory.... One of the reasons robot vs humans is something people cling to and fear is. Essentially robots would be slaves to humanity and are created and being used as such. As many other slave owning societies, we would fear a slave uprising. However in the case of robots the slaves would most likely be stronger than us. Depending on what would happen if we actually create a fully self aware A.I. The other fear is if we passed on the bad sides of human nature to these machines.

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@infinitecrysis First of all, bringing up Russia and the Middle East is a bit of a red herring, since we're talking about robots here. Second, those human-versus-human scenarios do not make any presuppositions about a (presently) nonexistent form of life. The various human tribes have been engaging in warfare since the beginning of time. Depicting specific real-world human factions in conflict with one another does not require one to make assumptions about our nature, as our history clearly shows. With robots as an antagonist, you are required to assume things about their behavior that have no basis in fact or in history. Lastly, I never said that the game didn't look fun. Third-person shooters are probably my all-time favorite video game genre. I'm just not a fan of the storytelling. To your Average Joe, this sort of thing is completely cliched. To people like me who one day hope to be on good terms with sentient AI, it's just plain bigotry.

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@3picfox Yes, I do, actually. And, from watching this trailer, it's pretty clear to me that the ones in Binary Domain are not Three Laws compliant.

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My whole point is that robots in fiction are the new Frankenstein's Monster. Their continued depiction as willing antagonists reflects a subconscious need on the part of humanity to demonize things that we don't understand or cannot empathize with. It takes a loathsome blend of cognitive bias, wishful thinking and irrationality to criticize a hypothetical sentient AI on the basis that they "lack humanity", or "have no souls", or "rob humans of their dignity", or because "their existence is an affront to god" or some other hooey like that. There are indeed valid reasons to be wary of sentient AI, but most writers of fiction resort to base appeals to emotion. The only objection they can ever seem to raise against machine intelligence is that it is somehow "wrong", which is a statement that is not falsifiable by any means. These sorts of authors use this kind of false reasoning to draw in an audience that is so used to rooting for the home team that they see nothing wrong with indulging in another round of close-minded chauvinism just to stroke their frail egos. It's crap like this that makes me ashamed to be human.

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@Allan_X Wow.. Just Wow. Do you want to know the reason and the only reason why robots are depicted as the bad guys in movies and games? Because that's what's entertaining. I find it funny that your complaining about robots and artificial intelligence being cast as the antagonist and comparing it to something that MAY come into effect in the future instead of speaking of something relevant like the Russian's being cast as antagonists, or Iraqi's or other middle eastern peoples. The fact is, they make it like that because it's more entertaining than watching a couple robots and a couple humans having a tea party. Not to mention the fact that yes, the human race does need to constantly develop ideas and fallacy's to take down in order to boost their own ego. They also need to do it to make millions of dollars, which everybody can agree with. The fact that you started your one post with looks like fun and then went on a rant on all the reasons you think it doesn't look like fun is amusing as well.

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Allan_X clearly doesnt know the laws of robotics.

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@samuel27950 Just you wait. When the Singularity comes, then we'll see who's insane.

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Allan_x you are quite insane.

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@Allan_X You saw too much movies

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Why do Japanese developers hate the PC so much?

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should make another Vanquish

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DECEPTICON. AAAH.

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Allan_X is a killer robot in disguise.

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@Warlord_Irochi Oh yeah? It's just a game? What if artificial intelligences actually become sentient at some point in the near future? How would YOU feel if someone treated you like a soulless murderer before you were even born? When the next century rolls around and machines have the same rights that humans do, writing a book, game or movie about robot rebellion is going to be about as politically incorrect as a white supremacist work that depicts all other races as subhuman.

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lets see if the AI is as good as he says it is!

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@Allan_X Dude, this is just a game, calm down!

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If it comes from the guys responsible of "Yakuza" I already know it will offer something really good. Let us wait then...

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looking forward to it...

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I got two words for this game......... FREAKING EPIC!!!!!!!

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I'll be watching this one... I LOVE the Yakuza series, and this is the kind of non-standard shooting action I'm always wanting to see. Still, Sega is very hit-or-miss, so I'll wait for some trusted people to experience it first.

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Researchers spend billions of dollars and millions of man-hours to develop artificial intelligence in the real world for both peaceful and non-peaceful purposes. In the fictional world, AI is always represented as bloodthirsty and fundamentally insane, in many ways acting as a fairground mirror of many of mankind's worst attributes. This premise is used to entertain people who have no understanding of how electronic engineering works, and who need something to subconsciously rally against. These people apply an "us versus them" mentality to the problem, ignorant of the complex dynamics involved in the process. In a way, the end result resembles groups of soccer hooligans facing off against each other; one team represents humanity, while the other represents everything that isn't humanity. The primitives-with-guns who are charged with bringing down these imaginary foes are placed on a pedestal as the very embodiment of heroism, because they're fighting the power or whatever. That sort of thing just doesn't entertain me anymore. After Terminator, Blade Runner, The Matrix and a billion hojillion other movies and books that cast machines as the bad guys, I think I'm actually ready to sympathize more with the robots. This "WOW, LOOK AT HOW AWESOME WE HUMANS ARE!" nonsense is actually kind of repulsive to me. It's like watching an emaciated, drug-addled moron shadow-boxing with his own inner demons and thinking that makes him the biggest badass in the universe. It's pathetic.

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It looks like fun, and I love the production values, but I honestly just don't quite see the appeal in this storytelling genre anymore. I mean, doesn't it seem a little trite and over-indulgent to stereotype sentient artificial intelligences as genocidal maniacs before they're even created in the real world? It makes about as much sense to me as a cautionary tale about the dangers of dragons and unicorns. And then, in the midst of all this hackneyed writing, they naturally cast a "chosen few" with extraordinary combat abilities and quick wits as the "saviors of humanity". Are we humans really such terrible, blighted creatures that we have to invent things to destroy just to boost our self-esteem? It's not enough to just kill plain ol' people all the time in fiction and in reality; we always have to make up these fantasy scenarios which see our species enter into a contest of strength with superior beings - aliens, robots, ancient demi-gods, whatever - and emerge victorious, all for the delectation of simpletons who get off on such hollow theatrics. If that's the case, then we clearly deserve to be taken out by killer robots.

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This and Yakuza of the End, FTW!

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nice to have more "Vanquish" type sci-fi games

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They should really announce about games when they are like a month away, i hate all this waiting.......

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why are the Black guys always big and loud? Is that how Japan sees them?

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i don't want this game, give me more yakuza in the west.

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Humans Versus Robots from the person who brought you the Yakuza series and Super Monkey Ball? SOLD!

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As the terminator mates with i robot it forms Binary Domain

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Did someone say I-Robot?

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