As Problems Persist, Batman: Arkham Knight PC Full Refunds Available

@ughz: Of course NVIDIA cards are going to work the same way, but NVIDIA and ATI cards and drivers all work different; dual and quad core processors work different; everyone's got their OS set up different; their GPU preferences tweaked; different clock speeds; it's nearly impossible to normalize performance for everyone.

What I'm saying is the truth, I guess most people are just too nice to say it to you and risk hurting your feelings. AAA PC development is such a ridiculous waste I'm sure most developers want out, it's just going to be such a PR hit they probably feel trapped.

@RCT4ShouldExist: Consoles were superior for approximately 5 minutes - in 1995. That time is long gone buddy. Most of those games back then, PS "exclusives", released on PC as well with little difference. The problem in the 90s was that there weren't any real GPU manufacturers because the GPU was a new concept. Once the Voodoo hit the market, it was officially over. And the thing is, PC was already pumping out games with better gameplay and better technology for years at the time.

@RCT4ShouldExist: Nobody wants to be the first to "abandon" the PC gaming community; the backlash obviously is not going to be fun. However, games are getting more complex, home PC setups are getting more complex, every GPU driver release is more broken than the last... From what I've read ATI cards are struggling to run almost everything nowadays...

Rocksteady isn't an incompetent developer; even though they sourced this one out the fact that they couldn't fix the port to PC and had to tap-out and offer unconditional refunds to everyone does support what I'm saying. The fact is that most AAA titles are developed for console and ported to PC as well, which shows that the console infrastructure is just a lot easier to develop for.

@jackgriffin: It's not all about money, though. Let's just say that whichever publisher is the first to officially pull support from the PC Gaming community is going to eat the majority of backlash and negative PR. I think the time is coming, but it will be interesting to see which publisher has the balls to be first.

@Molokai16: DirectX helps streamline development, but you're crazy if you think it offsets all of the potential problems created by the ridiculous amounts of different setups PC gamers can have. Also, the fact that they're coded on computers is meaningless; most games are coded to work with console hardware/infrastructure and then modified for PC.

It's a lot of extra work, and I guess you could say the fact that the devs occasionally look for shortcuts means they're lazy, but I think it means PC development is ultimately not worth it. If they were just lazy the console version would've sucked to.

@Myron117:

Stop downloading porn mate. Those viruses are makin the game buggy for you.

@Zombrex: OK just to run through a few of the reasons that its glaringly obvious that you're misinformed:

- Motherboards and video cards cost less than consoles(even if it seems like alien technology to you). Do you think that PC hardware doesn't have warranties? Spoiler alert... they do. You can make the assertion that its more difficult or expensive but it sounds like that's just an assumption you made out of ignorance.

- How often do you think you need to upgrade hardware? You can play games on a 10 year old GPU but they're gonna look even worse than they do on console.

- How hard do you think it is to update drivers? You need Sony to hold your hand for you so you don't have to click "update"?

- Extra hardware or software for recording or chat? Now you're comparing 3rd party options to stock Sony features. But do you actually believe that they would be equivalent in quality? PC can record with only software as well but once again you conflate things that aren't the same.

- What are these loads of other extras you refer to? What can be worth paying hundreds over the years in subscription costs? You're barred from online unless you pay THAT is how they milk you.

- What is safe online play? Are you implying PC is somehow not safe for online play?

You seem to have no idea what your comparing yet seem to be sure of what you're saying. Its like you people don't understand that quality varies and you get what you pay for. What you're paying for is convenience and the lowest common denominator of everything.

@Zombrex: People choose to buy consoles when they can afford it. you realise that playing games on a console is not really a necessity right? If you had an option to choose between these, and you can only get 1 of these which would you choose : PC/Mac, Laptop, Console(any).

The only time I had to replace a motherboard was when I was upgrading, which was 2 years back, and you'r talking as if motherboards/graphic cards don't have warranty or something. Unless you plan on throwing your console/pc down the stairs everyday before turning them on, I don't really see the comparison here? Are you saying that people should get consoles because they are "cheaper" to replace?

Honestly I don't really care what other people get for themselves, because its their prerogative to spend their hard earned money as they wish, I just don't understand this need for everyone to feel superior by trying to prove what they spent their money on is better than what other people spend their money on.

WoW and LoL are Pc games, in LoL you can do fine with voice chat as you are in a team and its a team based game. In WoW you can the inbuilt voice chat option but its not that good, so people resort to using skype, ventrilo to chat to known contacts/groups.

Now on consoles you can voice chat with people if they are in your party, thats it. If say, you'r in a game called destiny, and if you don't have any friends online it gets difficult to communicate with strangers because there is no real option to do that.

@Beelze333:

Yea it's messed up when studios treat their PAYING customers like crap I mean I could understand if all these games were free but with us paying a high cost for all these games we should not have to go thru so many issues.