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Analyst: GTAIV could best Halo 3's debut

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey says Rockstar's latest could "conceivably" ship 9.5 million in the first week, more than twice Microsoft's 4.4 million.

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In announcing Halo 3's first-week sales of $300 million, Microsoft called it "the fastest-selling video game ever." That record might be relatively short-lived, if a new report from Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey proves accurate.

Hickey attributes the success of Halo 3 to a growing fan base for the franchise, a general demand for high-quality content, and the game's release early in the current generation's life cycle. Those same factors will be playing into next year's release of Grand Theft Auto IV, Hickey said. In addition, the Xbox 360 installed user base will be significantly larger by the time GTA IV comes out, and the addition of a PlayStation 3 edition of the game should boost sales significantly as well. Putting those factors together, Hickey suggests that the market is generally underestimating the next GTA game's initial success.

With Halo 3, Hickey believes Microsoft shipped 5.2 million copies of the game for its first week of release, and sold through 4.4 million. That leads to a 67 percent attach rate (percentage of all console owners who purchased the game) in the US, Hickey said. He believes that rate dips to 46 percent when adding in Europe.

Although Hickey doesn't think Grand Theft Auto IV will sell to as large a percentage of Xbox 360 owners, he notes that the expanding installed user base for the Xbox 360 and PS3 could offset whatever shortcoming there is. Even with a projected attach rate of only 20 percent (which Hickey stresses is very conservative), that would indicate first-week sales for the game of 3.5 million units. Hickey seemed more comfortable with a 30 percent attach rate, which would suggest first-week shipments of 5.3 million copies. But there's also a best-case scenario.

"If the upcoming release of GTA IV attached at the same rate as Halo 3," Hickey wrote, "the title could conceivably ship 9.5 million units of [the] game in the first week, producing an astonishing $466 million in sales." In such a case, Hickey projects first-week sales of the game would approach 8.1 million copies.

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doubt it will sell nearly as well as halo, especially on a global scale. Will it ship more? maybe since its on two differrent consoles, but difinently not as well as halo 3

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Well i guess they need to instill confidence in their share holders some how. Projected numbers like the ones in the post should make the R* investor s feel better, but that's about it. Now how 'bout some updates on the progression of the actual game, please :)

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lol So shipping alot means it's going to sell more? not going to happen but nice try. at lease i know i don't have to reserve it.

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i seriously doubt it. you can't just say " if this game sells the same attach rate as halo it will be so big!." no duh, it aint gonna happen though

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Good for them, but I get a bit tired of these analyst outlandish predictions.

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Dont think so...

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san andreas outsold halo 2 on the ps2 alone(san andreas - 12 million to halo 2 - 8 million). Vice city also outold both of those at 13million copies. GTA IV probably won't have the same first day sales as halo 3 in but in the long run gta will out sell halo 3 by a large margin.

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Wouldn't surprise me if it did. Being a multiplatform title of such a popular series.

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I don't think GTA4 will sell more than Halo 3 the first day but it will eventually sell much more than Halo 3 simply because it's a multiplatform title.

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"TMontana1004 Yeah right! Unlike Halo, GTA doesn't appeal to youger gamers like Halo does and it is not know as wide as Halo. I mean c'mon, Halo was even number 1 in Japan! JAPAN!" Ever see the age rating of BOTH games?.. i didnt think so.

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DAMN IT! I'm sick of these analysts making completely implausible suggestions that no one could ever think of unless someone told us. I also really hate the fact the sky is brown. In all seriousness, anyone thinking he is wrong is kidding themselves, GTA appeals to a larger audience than Halo, is on both high end systems, and has actually delivered sequels that have new stories that are actually interesting. I'd buy 20 GTA sequels before I ever buy another game that has halo in the name.

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Halo 3 is a good game. However, I would say it's nowhere near the 'flawless' remarks being thrown out there on the net. Titles like BioShock and Resistance provided me with more enjoyable gameplay and stories. Just my opinion. However, the best games don't always sell the best. Just ask the makers of Beyond Good and Evil.

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Atleast GTA deserves the big sales. I don't think M$ funded their advertising campain though.

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Well, the more consoles a game is released on = more sales. I think that is common sense to most people.

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If any game can beat Halo 3's launch, it's GTA IV. :D

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kinda possible but lets see... I will get it of course.

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Halo 3 was officially the biggest selling game ever last week, and now this guy thinks not only will GTA 4 sell more, but that it'll sell nearly twice as many? Yeah, I can see that happening.. Disclaimer: That last sentance was sarcasm in case you can't tell.

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Yeah, sure, of course, yes whatever :D

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Analysts are about as reliable as the weatherman. I'm sick and tired of hearing all their predictions...dam soothsayers I say.

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Yeah right! Unlike Halo, GTA doesn't appeal to youger gamers like Halo does and it is not know as wide as Halo. I mean c'mon, Halo was even number 1 in Japan! JAPAN!

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Not going to happen. GTA just doesn't have that cult-like following that Halo has. Halo fans are probably the most devoted/rabid gaming fans in the western hemisphere. All you have to do is look how much San Andreas sold in its first week. The userbase of the PS2 at that time was twice what the PS3 and 360 will have when GTA IV is released. If they weren't setting records at that point, they won't be doing it now.

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GTA IV will outsell Halo 3 by a long shot , even if you just count the XBOX360 sales alone , its way better then Halo , the only reason HALO sold so many games was because of the massive hype for the game , commercials every 3 minutes , signs at convenience stores , advertisements on soda, a 3 hour preview on g4 tv ...lol Microsoft spent so much on advertising that people had no choice but to check the game out ...GTA IV will show you how lame HALO 3 really is , everybody and their mother will buy GTA IV on the 360 and PS3.

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I think that Grand Theft Auto IV will outsell halo 3 but Grand Theft Auto IV is on the 360 and ps3

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GTA will be successful but not THAT successful. Halo is just one of a kind.

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yeah this could be true, HALO 3 could NOT be the fastest selling game ever after all!!!!

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who cares wut sells more? GTA4 and Halo3 are both amazing games!

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It probably could ship more because the game is a multiplat.

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yeah rockstar needs good sales for this game after all the lawsuits and crap they have been having i i were them i wouldn't worry whenever they are slightly getting down in the dumps they know there next gta will extremly boost them even higher

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Why are we hearing so much from analyst lately? I could give a crap less about what they analyze in the gaming industry.. What they (think) does not influence my decision on buying a game. Idiots..

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lol

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pfff yeah right!

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It's the hype-juggernaut BATTLE ROYALE! This'll be interesting...

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dont most final fantasy games sell around 6-8 million units?

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Huh...I didnt know you could be considered an analyst for stating things that are obvious. Apparantly if someone says something so mind-boggling like "a game that is being released on TWO platforms could outsell a game released on ONE platform" is press-worthy. Thats like saying "Hm, I think more people will buy a 360 in America than in Canada because America has more people." Thanks Einstein I'll be sure to ask you how to save the earth if a meteor is coming towards us /sarcasm

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I don't know if GTA will outsell Halo but I might get GTA. Now, some people will want to compare MGS to Halo. Though it is fair to compare those two in terms of exclusivity I think MGS is a different beast. MGS is like Zelda, Splinter Cell, Hitman, Tomb Raider, and Final Fantasy in that it has a core audience that will always support it. Kojima, Konami & Sony would have need a really strong marketing campaign to persuade those who haven't jumped into the MGS series before to do so now.

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Halo 3 is amazing and is probably better than gta 4,which should still be amazing.But the thing is,GTA=multiplatform...duh?It won't be a surprise if GTA sells atleast double.

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sorry for double posting but there is nothiing wrong with analysts making predictions. there's a reason why they have their jobs, and no you couldn't do any better. what else do you expect a game site to report on a daily basis?

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Crazy analysts with their crazy predictions.

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Given that it's a cross-platform release, that can help it's chances... not to mention how many PS2s GTA3 sold (mine and a few of my friends' PS2s were purchased precisely for that reason). Nonetheless, the sales of Halo 3 are ridiculous... moreso than any Hollywood movie, let alone a video game. It's a possibility, but an unlikely one IMO. Regardless, even if it doesn't match the Halo 3 debut, I'm sure it will be strong enough to help Rockstar out a bit after the couple of years they've had.

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I hope Brendon Sinclair of Gamespot reads this, DONT POST THIS CRAP ON A GAMING SITE!!!! Every gamer should be able to discover something as trivial as this for themselves, it's insulting and annoying when I hear Analyst make stupid comments.

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Not to hard to predict that a big multiplatform game due out later may outsell a single platform big game now is it ? lol why do GS print these retarded news articles of late ?

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maybe, but i doubt it

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Well, it's definitely possible since there'll be a greater install base of PS3s and X360s ('cause Christmas will put more consoles in consumer hands), as well as the very expensive GTA4 packs with the lockbox and bag (like the $130 Legendary Edition of Halo 3). I might not break Halo 3's opening day sales, and even if not, it might make other records like quickest to get to $500 million or $1 billion, something like that. Anyways, I think people have lost sight; this is still going to be a significant release, any way you look at it.

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i can't imagine any game selling that fast. i think some parents are willing to let their kids play halo were as not too many parents would knowingly let there kids play GTA. it might sell more overall than halo, but i doubt it'll sell as fast.

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I didnt buy Halo3 and I wont be in the near future, of course I may pick this up at launch......if I can :P.

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I think that more people wants GTA 4 then Halo3 , and it comes to more platforms, so maybe !!!!

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brianpoetzel That's only because it's multiplatform where halo was not. That's like being proud that you're able to beat up a retarded kid. I think a better comparison would be MGS4. Will that out sell halo? It's better to compare both platforms exclusive heavy-hitters. --------------------------------------------------------------------- lol so true man, but even so GL GTA...........beating halo, wut a joke.......

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i like gta more... just my opinion tho. but ya, im buyin it

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I'm not so sure. I like GTA as much as the next guy and then some, but I haven't even thought to put it on pre-order yet. I don't think I've pre-ordered a GTA yet...the multiplatform sales may change things, though.

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That's only because it's multiplatform where halo was not. That's like being proud that you're able to beat up a retarded kid. I think a better comparison would be MGS4. Will that out sell halo? It's better to compare both platforms exclusive heavy-hitters.

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