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Analyst: GTAIV could best Halo 3's debut

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey says Rockstar's latest could "conceivably" ship 9.5 million in the first week, more than twice Microsoft's 4.4 million.

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In announcing Halo 3's first-week sales of $300 million, Microsoft called it "the fastest-selling video game ever." That record might be relatively short-lived, if a new report from Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey proves accurate.

Hickey attributes the success of Halo 3 to a growing fan base for the franchise, a general demand for high-quality content, and the game's release early in the current generation's life cycle. Those same factors will be playing into next year's release of Grand Theft Auto IV, Hickey said. In addition, the Xbox 360 installed user base will be significantly larger by the time GTA IV comes out, and the addition of a PlayStation 3 edition of the game should boost sales significantly as well. Putting those factors together, Hickey suggests that the market is generally underestimating the next GTA game's initial success.

With Halo 3, Hickey believes Microsoft shipped 5.2 million copies of the game for its first week of release, and sold through 4.4 million. That leads to a 67 percent attach rate (percentage of all console owners who purchased the game) in the US, Hickey said. He believes that rate dips to 46 percent when adding in Europe.

Although Hickey doesn't think Grand Theft Auto IV will sell to as large a percentage of Xbox 360 owners, he notes that the expanding installed user base for the Xbox 360 and PS3 could offset whatever shortcoming there is. Even with a projected attach rate of only 20 percent (which Hickey stresses is very conservative), that would indicate first-week sales for the game of 3.5 million units. Hickey seemed more comfortable with a 30 percent attach rate, which would suggest first-week shipments of 5.3 million copies. But there's also a best-case scenario.

"If the upcoming release of GTA IV attached at the same rate as Halo 3," Hickey wrote, "the title could conceivably ship 9.5 million units of [the] game in the first week, producing an astonishing $466 million in sales." In such a case, Hickey projects first-week sales of the game would approach 8.1 million copies.

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Who has underestimated GTAIV? Its going to sell alot of consoles, probably more xbox 360s due to the price point.

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Cool.

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Hm...me thinks I should go preorder this from Gamestop soon...

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i love GTA games but is their online on it? and is MGS4 coming to xbox360?

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"If the upcoming release of GTA IV attached at the same rate as Halo 3,"... the amount of pre-orders and insane hype for halo 3 goes well beyond anything seen from gtaIV - thus far. Basically all this guy is saying is, 'if people buy gtaIV just like they bought halo3, it will sell more because it is also on the ps3' That's a pretty lame prediction since it's just basic match. The fact is, gtaIV probably won't attain the hype pinnacle halo3 did on the xbox 360. Maybe on the ps3 it will though, since people have nothing else to play. Either way I doubt it will break the opening sales.

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Halo....the most over rated and over hyped game series ever!!!!! GTA brings something new to the gameplay with every MAJOR release.

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Grand Theft Auto is awesome, can't wait to play on my PS3

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Hm...maybe. Two consoles?

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Um...no

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No wonder it will sell better, its been alot more of a succes, there is alot more freedom in it., and best of all, it doesnt look like a remake

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i already got halo and i reckon i'll like it better than grand theft auto due to the amount of time you invest in playing it. Also surley its not fair if you compare game sales between the two if GTA4 is being released om more consoles? They should only count the GTA4 sales for the 360

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SO WHAT GAMES DO YOU LIKE ANDREX1212 "SUPERMAN,GUNDAM,CABELLAS" HAHAHA

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What's interesting as I read through is that we are all comparing two different strengths of these games. Halo 3 is great, but it's appeal to most would have to be multiplayer. In terms of solo gameplay, GTAIV is the favorite by all. I relish the fact that I will be able to play both of them and enjoy them very much. I love Halo 3 and I'm very sure that I will love GTAIV as well. The bottom line is that no matter what game is the strongest seller, let me restate the obvious again. The consumer wins in the end because content is still moving in the right direction.

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hell yeah, grand theft auto is way better than halo

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Well, duh, it's not exclusive to the 360. Obviously the number of consoles that will run it is bigger, the potential market is bigger, and so it could sell more. Twice as many? I doubt it. I don't even know if it will sell as well as Halo did right out of the gate. I doubt there will be anything as high as 67% attachment for GTA4 on either console. Apples and oranges, people. Apples and oranges.

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So glad to see GAY-lo 3 smited in any and every way possible, which is exactly what the most over hyped game of all time (save for Daikatana) deserves no less than. Can't wait till next Christmas when the tyrant Gates is dethroned for good, because they could never possibly put out anything anything half way decent again (the very first Halo was straight up BOUGHT and stolen from pc gamers anyways, nice try, thieves). Anybody who is saying that this hasn't happened yet can keep their pointlessly existing mouths shut. Don't worry about it not happening, it is inevitable and you know it, the entire GTA series will outsell any game, period. Daikatana pretty much single handedly destroyed an entire game studio and also ruined the reputation of one of the most prominent developers ever, forever. Oh how I hope the same fate eventually befalls the biggest sellout studio yet, Bungie. Come on guys, make that Daikatana of yours already.

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People bashing Halo? Wow, didn't see that one coming *sarcasm*. GTA series is great but PS3's userbase is only to 5 or so million and the 360's just above 11 million so anything is possible. I'm pretty certain not every PS3 and 360 owner is going to get GTA4. Either way, one is proven quality wise and the other isn't. Halo 3 is great whereas the last GTA was lacking and was nothing more than a rehash (as most have been since Vice City).

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I believe this, like I believe Good Ol' Saint Nick comes down my Chimney each year on Christmas Eve and brings me and the family gifts..... Nice try though on getting some extra hype for the GTA series. Yes I'm opinionated but come on now 300million in a week for Halo. Mark my words I would be surprised to see GTA IV meet half this in sales for 1 week.

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gta4 will be much better than halo3. cod2 is better than halo 3!

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Personally, I don't like GTA for what it promotes. Playing as a criminal and lighting policemen on fire isn't my kind of thing. And prostitutes? Heh. This is the reason Jack Thompson hates videogames. It's also, I'm afraid, the reason the games are so popular. The moral standard of the nation drops as we speak.

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Well im sure Halo 3s sales would be doubled too if it was released on the PS3 as well. duh.!!!

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Halo is no competition for GTA end of story.

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but mgs4 is coming on the 360 and ps3

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Halo 3 would still be big because its been selling only on the 360 but GTA will be selling on the 360 and the PS3 so that would help it more. Not like it needs any help in selling copies in the first place.

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Who cares?

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GTA has always seemed like a sub-par series to me. I'm sure the analyst's numbers aren't too far off, but I'll never know why so many people like this series.

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karbon561, so sony can't make a franchise as successful on their own like halo. Well no sh*t. Not even nintendo can make that claim. I mean not even mario or zelda could help drive game sales that fast. But then again microsoft hyped the crap out of a run of the mill shooter that just generally plays better than most, but not a whole lot. GTA has a little bit more depth to just the whole running and gunning, plus i find it way more fun than halo.

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gta is going to kick crappy halo 3 arse

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@Threesixtyci....oh you mean like halo 2.5 is on the 360 is a clone of halo 2???

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"In addition, the Xbox 360 installed user base will be significantly larger by the time GTA IV comes out, and the addition of a PlayStation 3 edition of the game should boost sales significantly as well." sorry, i never knew the ps3 version was an "addition" to the 360 version. because obviously this game is mainly for 360 and it being on ps3 is just a bonus.... ****ing fanboys. PS- it probably can surpass halo 3's numbers. all they need to do is waste money on viral ads so they can get big hype for a big release day. oh yeah, and actually set a real release date so we have something to look forward to

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Sony really should have kept GTA series exclusive, sick of these damn fanboys

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Well speaking logically, in the long term GTA IV might sell more for the fact that it will come in both platform. Halo 3 is 360 exclusive so this prediction seemed to be pretty stupid. It is like saying that Assassin's Creed will sell more than MGS4.

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lol this could only happen if it was on the wii.

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andrex1212.... you must be 12... go play crash bandicot

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I can't see that happening unless GTAIV is a revolution

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peon said it best.....

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Ah I hope so. What could be better than TWO record breaking video game sellers in one year? Not to mention, I'm a huge GTA fan - can ya tell by the name?

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No big shock there.

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Well, if there is any upcoming game that could do it, it would be GTA 4, especially since it will be on both the 360 and the PS3. It is a great series, which is one of those few things Sony and Microsoft fanboys can agree on.

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Tch....Yeah right.

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Hmmm..he does have a point. GTAIV will be the biggest multiplatform game and Halo 3 has and will get a lot more 360 owners and they'll be looking forward to the next big game after Halo 3. It would be great to see gaming history created yet again. I hope Grand Theft Auto 4 does great.

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funny how the game to beat halo 3 will need to be on both 360 and ps3... what ps3 cant make a game good enough to compete with the halo franchize still... well w/e... i wonder if GTAIV will still have over 500,000 ppl playing it 3 or 4 years after its realesed like halo 2 was... doubt it

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They are both highly over-rated so why does it matter? Halo 3 really wasn't that amazing.. it was fun for a couple days and well... GTA is just hyped because it has the "bad-ass" pose. I might RENT it but phhh... it will have to be pretty damn good to make me actually buy this extremely-repedetive-good-for-the-sake-of-controversy game.

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it will sell alot fast yes... but not that much that fast...

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"I doubt GTAIV will come anywhere near Halo's numbers" It's great you have your personal opinion but facts are facts. GTA series : 50 million copies Halo series: 20 million copies Having the best opening week is far less important than long term slaes.

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Gta The series has more years on its neck and a bigger fanbase, the hype around halo 3 and the fact everyone wanted to be first matters little as it's just common sense, that GTA IV will eventually surpass Halo 3. Of course not multi-player wise but the overall experience, I still play san andreas, I do not however play any of the previous halo games.

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have some dubts aobut that but then again i am no expert in viedo games so..

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Yeah right, first analysts said about how ps3 would "rule" them all. Then they also said about how Wii sale would be a flop and now this?? Seriously, how did these analysts graduate from business school?

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this was obvious...it huge AND multiplatform

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I doubt GTAIV will come anywhere near Halo's numbers, especially if it turns out that GTAIV is nothing but a clone of it's past games, but with better graphics. Rockstar has pretty much beaten their sandbox style, to death...

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