GameSpot may receive revenue from affiliate and advertising partnerships for sharing this content and from purchases through links.

Analyst: GTAIV could best Halo 3's debut

Janco Partners' Mike Hickey says Rockstar's latest could "conceivably" ship 9.5 million in the first week, more than twice Microsoft's 4.4 million.

790 Comments

In announcing Halo 3's first-week sales of $300 million, Microsoft called it "the fastest-selling video game ever." That record might be relatively short-lived, if a new report from Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey proves accurate.

Hickey attributes the success of Halo 3 to a growing fan base for the franchise, a general demand for high-quality content, and the game's release early in the current generation's life cycle. Those same factors will be playing into next year's release of Grand Theft Auto IV, Hickey said. In addition, the Xbox 360 installed user base will be significantly larger by the time GTA IV comes out, and the addition of a PlayStation 3 edition of the game should boost sales significantly as well. Putting those factors together, Hickey suggests that the market is generally underestimating the next GTA game's initial success.

With Halo 3, Hickey believes Microsoft shipped 5.2 million copies of the game for its first week of release, and sold through 4.4 million. That leads to a 67 percent attach rate (percentage of all console owners who purchased the game) in the US, Hickey said. He believes that rate dips to 46 percent when adding in Europe.

Although Hickey doesn't think Grand Theft Auto IV will sell to as large a percentage of Xbox 360 owners, he notes that the expanding installed user base for the Xbox 360 and PS3 could offset whatever shortcoming there is. Even with a projected attach rate of only 20 percent (which Hickey stresses is very conservative), that would indicate first-week sales for the game of 3.5 million units. Hickey seemed more comfortable with a 30 percent attach rate, which would suggest first-week shipments of 5.3 million copies. But there's also a best-case scenario.

"If the upcoming release of GTA IV attached at the same rate as Halo 3," Hickey wrote, "the title could conceivably ship 9.5 million units of [the] game in the first week, producing an astonishing $466 million in sales." In such a case, Hickey projects first-week sales of the game would approach 8.1 million copies.

Got a news tip or want to contact us directly? Email news@gamespot.com

Join the conversation
There are 790 comments about this story
790 Comments  RefreshSorted By 
GameSpot has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to toxic conduct in comments. Any abusive, racist, sexist, threatening, bullying, vulgar, and otherwise objectionable behavior will result in moderation and/or account termination. Please keep your discussion civil.

Avatar image for jakob_187
jakob_187

523

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

GTA IV WILL outsell Halo 3, and it's all thanks to gang violence and beating up hookers. You can't beat up hookers in Halo 3. =D

Upvote • 
Avatar image for zath5
zath5

1262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

so a game being shipped for 2 consoles could out sell a game that has only one system to advertise for hmmm. seems to make sense? that does not mean anything to me because that half of the total gamers will buy this game in the first week. aint happenin

Upvote • 
Avatar image for kevy619
kevy619

5617

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

"tonymatt225 saints row 2 si gonna be better than gta 4!!!!!! " I certainly hope not.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Monroe1
Monroe1

443

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Yea right!

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Obliterati
Obliterati

222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@poonus21: couldn't have said it better myself mate. We should start a betting pool on how wildly off base these "experts" predictions end up being.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for deviates1080
deviates1080

1926

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

So basically they're saying a big game released on two platforms could do better than a big game released on one...Is that really news worthy?

Upvote • 
Avatar image for peacebringer
peacebringer

3371

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 31

User Lists: 0

c_smithii GTA4 will sell consoles for Sony regardless of what people think/say. Sony hasn't been on the market for as long as MS why do people always forget that? Funny cause in 1 year has a userbase 50% less, thats mean there almost selling identical for the time they been on market. $399 40gb i'm sure it'll sell now. wait till after Xmas and lets see what the numbers say.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Ape_Escape_1Fan
Ape_Escape_1Fan

1166

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

To the people talking about 'double sales', try that when this game comes out, compare 360 sales to PS3, I know for a fact 360 sales will still topple Halos, because the PS3 isn't near as attainable, I own one, I know for a fact people don't want to shell out that much to get a PS3, where as the 360 is ridiculously popular right now, so it'll still outsell your precious halo, it's GTA, it made gaming 'cool', something that only Mario did before that. -------------------------------------------------- I disagree. Mario virtually made video games what they are (aside from Pong, the best game EVER!). GTA just made adults see that not all games are for kids, and are worth advertising. I don't care if halo or GTA sell anything at all, Mario Galaxy deserves the fame and fortune. Its the only game i'm looking forward to that doesn't have a number in its name.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for chibi-acer
chibi-acer

1890

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

No way. I'm sure GTA will sell well, and maybe even better than Halo 3, but 9.5 million would be the equivalent of 1/2 of gamers buying the game (based on 360/PS3 sales, future casted for the holidays).

Upvote • 
Avatar image for najyshadi
najyshadi

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

to peacebringer gta 4 is a online multiplayer game

Upvote • 
Avatar image for kTvTv3
kTvTv3

101

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Actually, the fact is that this news article is about how many copies of Halo were sold, not how many played it for how many hours.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for V-r0cK
V-r0cK

177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

I'd like for GTA4 to beat Halo3 just because its multi-platform so its a game that everybody can relate to and share 2gether. Unite the world as one..by doing it the GTA style :P

Upvote • 
Avatar image for beedle
beedle

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Its amazing to see the "fanboys" emerge, to thrust thier Master Chief prowess into the mix. We can talk software all day and night and how Halo3 made the great sales of 2007, however the XBLive Kids have thier head set that the fact that they think xb360 is the end-all to console gaming. Get real. This is a cutthroat busniess and as you can see there are other games in the horizon that jepordize Halo 3's crown. Theres no stopping it. Now now fanboy.. youll live. They will make Halo4... for BOTH systems then what?!...WHAT? Hehe.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Cono_2007
Cono_2007

409

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

jeez, trying to out sell Halo 3, there is a 50 percent change it can and 50 percent change it won't. We'll just have too find out and see the results. But i think GTA will sell close to the Halo's number's.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for tbarbuch
tbarbuch

652

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

So.....the more units you ship, the more your could conceivably sell ??? NO S*** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Upvote • 
Avatar image for XAF1
XAF1

389

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

It doesn't matter. Everyone knows GTA IV will sell no matter what. The fact is Halo 3 will be getting more play time and selling longer than the life span of the 360 as was the case with the original Xbox and Halo 1 & 2. That is what makes it interesting. Also GTA IV has more platforms that it will be running on which makes the accomplishment less spectacular as Halo3, Metal Gear Solid 4 or a Final Fantasy game---games that sell on a single console in various countries and earn high figures. If GTA IV only came out on one of the consoles this time the figures would be better than average but not as good as previously due to the install base on both consoles. Also --which I'm not sure of-- it depends on if the game is coming to PC, if so we know the game will outsell both console versions day 1.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for kTvTv3
kTvTv3

101

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Who cares what each console sells anyways, it's how many of the game that sells total. And who's to say people won't buy more ps3's, I mean there's even the new 40BG PS3 that's bound to suck some sucker in for their $400.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for ReverseCycology
ReverseCycology

9717

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

multiplatfrom vs exclusive. hmm lets see who sells more. its no brainer. but i guarantee you that the 360 version will sell more than the ps3. simple.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for c_smithii
c_smithii

1505

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

When will people do the math, there are 11.6 sold Xbox 360s vs 5 million PS3 systems world wide. In the United States alone Xbox 360 is the front running console. GTA4 will sell a hell of a lot more on 360 than PS3. Don't believe, well watch and see.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for jusducks6
jusducks6

59

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

The GTA game appeals to a wider fan base but will they get it quick

Upvote • 
Avatar image for peacebringer
peacebringer

3371

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 31

User Lists: 0

I don't think GTA4 is a 360 kinda game, think of it you can play the game for a long time weeks and HR's and all that time your Xbox Live member ship is being wasted. this is why i don't like paying for Xbox live,if i buy a good single player game i'm paying for nothing. i think alot of Xbox owners exajurate there passion for GTA, i'm sure theres alot of cheap Gangsta's that will buy the 360 version though.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for philcabinet
philcabinet

4312

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

To the people talking about 'double sales', try that when this game comes out, compare 360 sales to PS3, I know for a fact 360 sales will still topple Halos, because the PS3 isn't near as attainable, I own one, I know for a fact people don't want to shell out that much to get a PS3, where as the 360 is ridiculously popular right now, so it'll still outsell your precious halo, it's GTA, it made gaming 'cool', something that only Mario did before that.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for mikewalsh69
mikewalsh69

505

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

i wouldn't be surprized. at least it finally proves that gaming isn't for kids or nerds. its now mainstream like tv!

Upvote • 
Avatar image for playa42018
playa42018

1364

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

I might pick up GTA4, but probably not at release.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for poonus21
poonus21

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

jesus, is gamespot going to post news storys on every halfassed analyst that has a predeiction..

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Avagast
Avagast

70

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

The GTA series definately has a strong presence in the minds of current gamers. I wouldn't be surprised to see the game surpass, or come pretty close to the success seen by Halo 3.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for W_Birkin
W_Birkin

250

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

tonymatt225 saints row 2 si gonna be better than gta 4!!!!!! Lmao! Yea... Ok.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Ape_Escape_1Fan
Ape_Escape_1Fan

1166

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

8.1 million more minors playing mature, violent games based on commiting crime. YAY! Too bad there isn't much online play, no kids hitting puberty to play against.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Papa_smuff
Papa_smuff

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Wow Halo 3 beats all time video games sales, only to be beat shortly after? We are truly living in the golden age of video games.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for xRownan
xRownan

92

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 26

User Lists: 0

You can't really compare the two when one is an Xbox360 exclusive and the other is multi-platform. The fact that Halo 3 is the #1 selling game of all time and it only available for one of the 3 consoles is outstanding. Who cares of GTAIV outsells it.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Colsworl
Colsworl

621

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

This news wouldn't suprise me. GTA is the biggest franchise ever and has number one and two spot for all time best selling game which is GTA:SA and GTA:VC respectivly. As said, the fact that the game is not only on the 360, but ps3 too, this will also dramaticly increase sales. Figures aside, for me as a gamer, I would be much more concerned on the quality of the game rather than the sale figures. Here's to R* North making an amazing game.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for tonymatt225
tonymatt225

212

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

saints row 2 si gonna be better than gta 4!!!!!!

Upvote • 
Avatar image for xtremeg4m3r
xtremeg4m3r

600

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Probably correct its multiplatform so its not a big deal.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Ape_Escape_1Fan
Ape_Escape_1Fan

1166

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

Think people. Halo 3 is only available on one console. GTA is available for two. OMG! That means it gets double sales! Think people.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for NWA_31
NWA_31

11922

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for DeltaSpirit
DeltaSpirit

1364

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

i love GTA, will buy it on the first day but i can't really see it passing Halo 3 i mean you couldn't escape Halo 3 from 7-11, MT.Dew, ads all over the place making a massive amount of hype i could see GTA selling a lot (since it's on more platforms) but not as much as Halo plus i HATE and never trust Analyst their all horrible. Analysts in games are like Uwe Boll in movies

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Rect_Pola
Rect_Pola

720

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

Well, except for people who have both systems in question, everyone knows multiplatforms have a step up in user base over exclusives. While I admitedly don't know the grand scheme, I've figured 360 and PS3 were too close in nature and two-console owners are mostly one of them and a Wii.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for J_G_Pliskin
J_G_Pliskin

96

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

and that the REAL reason bungie split...because they fell under the pressure of creating a better experience for this nextgen halo when in all reality, it may not suck but it really brings nothing different than halo 2. yeh its selling well but that doesnt make it the "best game ever" and bungie knows this....real UNBIASED gamers can feel me on this.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Mauller
Mauller

114

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

GTA stopped being entertaining after Vice City.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for RoboWizard
RoboWizard

650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

"maybe, but only in the way that Titanic outsells Starwars." ba-zing!

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Disciple_Gamer
Disciple_Gamer

1425

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

I can't believe what i am hearing. A multiplatform game selling more on the ps3. This is why i don't listen to analyst.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for BigDaveyDogz
BigDaveyDogz

1815

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

already have the collectors edition pre-ordered! :D

Upvote • 
Avatar image for pepesbazooka
pepesbazooka

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

That makes sense. Hey guys there talking about "the franchise" wiehter it be a one console or multi platform they make mucho-denero. I think GTA IV will do very well and get rave reviews.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for henry4th
henry4th

1180

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

The fact is, Halo 3 got such hype because M$ put at least equal amount of $ into the markting of Halo as developing it. Since poeple have like.. 2 games to play on xbox360, people (read Americans) just have to buy Halo 3. So any other game that doesn't have Halo's marketing budget and are not on xbox360 aren't going to beat Halo series.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for K-E316
K-E316

1651

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Imo GTA is wwwwaaayyyyy better than halo.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for paladin75
paladin75

71

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

everthingj: good comment. i will admit at first when i saw the trailer to GTA4 i was interested. with all the delays and stuff kinda took away the initial interest i had. i think it will attract a more commercial crowd than Halo. im not even interested anymore, the series has been done to death. and seriously itll need more than a "fresh coat of paint" to get my hard earned cash

Upvote • 
Avatar image for alex20077
alex20077

129

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

possible, but they forgot to factor in that it will be easier to sell more of gta4 because its on more than one console unlike halo 3 which was only on the 360

Upvote • 
Avatar image for aubstud
aubstud

59

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

maybe, but only in the way that Titanic outsells Starwars.

Upvote • 
Avatar image for Zerosumgame
Zerosumgame

1176

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

lol told ya, there must be a game surpass Halo 3 sooner or later. pwned

Upvote • 
Avatar image for JSharpe_187
JSharpe_187

421

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

It doesn't really matter, the gamers win in any case

Upvote •